Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/26/2007 at 08:11 AM, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If everyone opted out of notification of vendor products - do you think Share would continue to get the funds they need so that they can put on the conferences for us? The Devil is in the details. If the

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/26/2007 at 09:00 AM, Dave Thorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: At CMG we handle vendor emails differently than SHARE, and I understand the spam problem. But as Lizette says, there's a delete key. And we all know how to use it. There's also a deny list, and some of us

Re: Snubbing at SHARE (Was: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE))

2007-07-28 Thread John P Kalinich
Greg Shirey of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/27/2007 11:42:47 AM: Yes, I got snubbed by a few of the same people as in Baltimore (and I think they were snubbing each other) though I didn't get a sticker this time. I got snubbed by a fellow Lister whose

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-27 Thread Richards.Bob
do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE) snipped LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-27 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 08:11 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: And the only reason the vendors provide sponsorship is so they can get at us. I make a point of looking up people I like on the Expo floor, and probably struck up conversations at a dozen booths in Tampa. These were all folks who had

Snubbing at SHARE (Was: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE))

2007-07-27 Thread John P Kalinich
Time for a Subject change. Anyone get snubbed in Tampa? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-27 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell I'm so old, I can remember when the 49ers and Raiders were contenders, LA had a team and my slobberkill file was 2 names! I can remember watching a baseball game at the Polo Grounds between the (New

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-27 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/27/2007 8:32:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: think I have deleted a lot more posts on this thread than SHARE spam I received. I'm so old, I can remember when the 49ers and Raiders were contenders, LA had a team and my slobberkill file was

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-27 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
snip I'm so old, I can remember when the 49ers and Raiders were contenders, LA had a team and my slobberkill file was 2 names! /snip raiders 2003, they lost to NE via the tuck rule (I have another name for it, but in involves substituting a letter). 2004, lost to TB in the SB as for the

Re: Snubbing at SHARE (Was: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE))

2007-07-27 Thread Greg Shirey
Yes, I got snubbed by a few of the same people as in Baltimore (and I think they were snubbing each other) though I didn't get a sticker this time. I got snubbed by a fellow Lister whose office is in north Dallas - mine is in central Fort Worth. We both laughed at the notion that it we found

Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread David Boyes
I grumbled about this a couple SHAREs ago and was told that vendors that are SHARE sponsers get to email SHARE members that have not opted out of SHARE announcements. You don't have use a spam filter; you can ask SHARE not to send them. After hours on the phone to get to the right

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Pinnacle wrote: They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs to

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread Bob Shannon
As much as I didn't care for it. IBM (when it co-hosted SHARE) never pulled this type of crap (excuse my english). The DEFAULT for any mailing should be NO unless I say YES IBM never co-hosted SHARE. Check your facts once in a while. Bob Shannon Rocket Software

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Bob Shannon wrote: As much as I didn't care for it. IBM (when it co-hosted SHARE) never pulled this type of crap (excuse my english). The DEFAULT for any mailing should be NO unless I say YES IBM never co-hosted SHARE. Check your facts once in a while. bob,

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:32 AM, Jeffrey Deaver wrote: They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-26 Thread Eric Bielefeld
It always amazes me how some people get so upset about spam. It seems to be almost a religious war against it! Personally, I have to agree with Lizette - if vendors can't send emails to people who belong to Share, they probably wouldn't want to spend as much money on Share. I seriously

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 5:42 AM, David Boyes wrote: ---SNIP- On the other hand, an organization that purports to provide IT education *ought* to know what is acceptable and not acceptable as good practice in a well-run IT organization. SHARE's IT decisions are just

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-26 Thread Dave Thorn
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE) Listers - I must now put my two cents in. How much corporate sponsorship do you think Share gets? I would think most of their funding comes from the vendors. And the only reason the vendors provide sponsorship is so they can get

How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-26 Thread Lizette Koehler
Listers - I must now put my two cents in. How much corporate sponsorship do you think Share gets? I would think most of their funding comes from the vendors. And the only reason the vendors provide sponsorship is so they can get at us. If everyone opted out of notification of vendor products

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/26/2007 7:12:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am okay with this so long as Share continues to provide the conference at the level it is at currently. Think what's grating is as a Technical organization shows no sign of intelligent life at

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-26 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE) Listers - I must now put my two cents in. How much

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:11 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: Listers - I must now put my two cents in. How much corporate sponsorship do you think Share gets? I would think most of their funding comes from the vendors. And the only reason the vendors provide sponsorship is so they can get at

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: Spam from SHARE They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs to the attendees reasonable? I can see this being the

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 06:42 -0400, David Boyes wrote: News flash to SHARE: if you insist on combining junk mail with the conference-related announcements, then both go in the trash. It's that simple, guys. I had SHARE and Smith-Bucklin remove our email address and fax number from their records

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread Wayne Driscoll
: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Spam from SHARE On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Pinnacle wrote: They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread Edward Jaffe
Schwarz, Barry A wrote: Is anyone else receiving spam from SHARE on behalf of various vendors. One or two more and I'll be angry enough to look up how to block the entire domain. I checked (or was it unchecked?) a box during the registration process that had to do with receiving email from

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:38:47 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone else receiving spam from SHARE on behalf of various vendors. One or two more and I'll be angry enough to look up how to block the entire domain. Instead of wasting my time with this garbage, maybe

Spam from SHARE

2007-07-25 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Is anyone else receiving spam from SHARE on behalf of various vendors. One or two more and I'll be angry enough to look up how to block the entire domain. Instead of wasting my time with this garbage, maybe they could fix the web scheduling tools which consistently refuse to show more than