Re: reasons for using started task or batch job

2012-08-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Besides the reasons for STC or job from the past, there is one important difference from the 'modern' area: STCs can fully use system symbols while jobs cannot (or hardly). Kees. Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com wrote in message

AUTO: Frank Krueger is in vacation. (returning 09/04/2012)

2012-08-13 Thread Frank Krueger
I am out of the office until 09/04/2012. Vacation - travelling somewhere in Europe without mail access. In urgent cases try Mobile Phone or contact Peter Kimmel or Alexander Warmuth. Use http://www.ibm.com/contact/employees/us/ for contact details. Note: This is an automated response to your

Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE

2012-08-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
mf db dbajava...@gmail.com wrote in message news:CAPikFhGsMcW1+cKX86K=k0b8tdxrwsjvltkpf6zoj8dftyo...@mail.gmail.com ... Hi All, In one of Sandbox system has throwing an error like *IEA061E REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE HAS BEEN DETECTED. The IBM manual Provides a recommendation like :

Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE

2012-08-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Peter, I don't have RMF, so I don't know that. CMF does not tell me. If you have MXI, the ASID display will tell you. Else write a REXX to display the storage locations. Kees. From: mf db [mailto:dbajava...@gmail.com] Sent: maandag 13 augustus 2012 11:48 To: Vernooij, CP - SPLXM

Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE

2012-08-13 Thread mf db
Hi, IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE DB2 address space and MQ address space are causing the above message. Peter On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: You have to figure out what is causing it. The typical cause of a non-reusable ASID is

Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE

2012-08-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
How often are they recycled and why? We don't recycle them on a regular basis. Now you can calculate your RSVNONR value: the number of IEF352Is per week, multiplied the number of weeks between IPLs. Kees. mf db dbajava...@gmail.com wrote in message

Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE

2012-08-13 Thread Rob Scott
MXI has the MDQ command that shows the Memory Delete Queue - otherwise known as the list of address spaces that have been marked non-reusable. Note that for the freeware MXI 4.3 this option only appears if the software is running in authorized mode. If MXI is not installed, you can do the

Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE

2012-08-13 Thread Ed Gould
On Aug 13, 2012, at 4:31 AM, mf db wrote: Hi All, In one of Sandbox system has throwing an error like *IEA061E REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE HAS BEEN DETECTED. The IBM manual Provides a recommendation like : *System* *Programmer* *Response:* Determine if the shortage is due to RSVNONR being

Re: GUIfication of tn3270 screens

2012-08-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
Frank Chu writes: The app is an assembler debugger and we want to add the ability/option of displaying it's contents on the PC with something other than in a 3270 emulator The general idea behind the GUI on the PC would be that in a single debugging session, you can have a window open for

X86 server

2012-08-13 Thread Jake anderson
Dear All, Could someone provide more information on X86 server ? I am just curious to know if this server is a mimic of Z.OS ? If it is so Migrating from Z/OS to X86 will be a good idea ? Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-13 Thread Jim Marshall
Not to plug Peter Enrico's new Parallel Sysplex available class, but if I was new to Sysplex, it would be worth the money to sit at the feet (as close as a Web session could get me) of the Master. Here some info I got late last week.

modifying secondary space allocation

2012-08-13 Thread Jousma, David
All, This may be a dumb question...just can't see a solution in front of my nose at the moment. Say you have many PDS(not PDSE) datasets that for whatever reason were never allocated with secondary extents(not LLA datasets).Is there a tool that can change the dataset secondary allocation

Re: Auditors Don't Know Squat!

2012-08-13 Thread Henri Kuiper
They (auditors) are right. Apply immediately ! (no I kid.) There are no valid arguments to convey such people to adopt another mindset. As one of my great mentors once told me : Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level then beat you with experience Good luck there!

Re: test posting

2012-08-13 Thread Henri Kuiper
This one did :) On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote: My last two posts have not yet made it to the list. Just wondering why... This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the

Re: X86 server

2012-08-13 Thread Henri Kuiper
Jake, What x86 server are you referring to? Are you talking about the x68blades in a zBX-frame connected to the mainframe? Or are you hinting at running z/OS from x86 hardware? If the latter is the case : feel free to contact me. You can take a sneak peak at http://zdevops.com We do z/OS

Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE

2012-08-13 Thread Patrick Loftus
We updated our automation product to log the jobname of address spaces issuing IEF352I, so we could see what was causing the problems when we had similar issues. We also found Mark Zeldens REXX very useful: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsfiles/asidlist.txt http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html It

Re: modifying secondary space allocation

2012-08-13 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:03:15 + Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote: :This may be a dumb question...just can't see a solution in front of my nose at the moment. :Say you have many PDS(not PDSE) datasets that for whatever reason were never allocated with secondary extents(not LLA

Re: modifying secondary space allocation

2012-08-13 Thread Kerneels
Only works , if there is are no active job with an ENQUE on the dataset ex. Parmlib. I had a program that clipped the record in the VTOC but I left it in TEXAS. Note: I need to make me another here in Alaska Kerneels On 8/13/2012 4:21 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2012

Re: modifying secondary space allocation

2012-08-13 Thread Jousma, David
This is interesting. I will look at this closer, however given the scope of our current problem, I'd prefer to use supported functions/utilities to do this. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John P Kalinich Sent:

Re: Has PUT1207 been released yet ? (Shopz)

2012-08-13 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Received at 10:38pm on Friday night: This e-mail has been sent by IBM to inform you that the RSU1207 and PUT1207 service levels are now available in the z/OS service packages orderable through ShopzSeries. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: modifying secondary space allocation

2012-08-13 Thread Staller, Allan
There is no z/OS only tool to do this. However, somewhere on the CBTTAPE is a program call DMOD (sorry, don't have a file reference) that will do this. I last used this in the late 90's and it worked then. It will obviously need to be reassembled with the current macros. HTH, snip Say you

Re: ESCON

2012-08-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
Here's the link to Optica's FICON to ESCON solution: http://www.opticatech.com/products/prizm/ The general advice is to shift as much as you can to either FICON or network connectivity, then supplement that strategy as/if needed with Optica's Prizm. (Optica also supports chaining to Bus Tag

Re: ESCON

2012-08-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-08-13 14:49, Timothy Sipples pisze: [...] Perhaps contrary to our perceptions, ESCON did not enjoy I/O superiority for very long. Less than 8 years later IBM introduced FICON with its System/390 Generation 5 models announced on May 7, 1998. But every machine up to and including the

Re: modifying secondary space allocation

2012-08-13 Thread John P Kalinich
If you are looking for a supported tool, I would use IEBCOPY to clone. Regards, John K David Jousma of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 08/13/2012 07:34:56 AM: This is interesting. I will look at this closer, however given the scope of our current problem,

Re: GUIfication of tn3270 screens

2012-08-13 Thread David Cole
Well, finally an answer that's worth some gold! Thank you Timothy! You've given us some things to follow up on. [:] Dave Cole REPLY TO: dbc...@colesoft.com ColeSoft Marketing WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox Hollow RoadVOICE:540-456-8536 Afton, VA

Re: ESCON

2012-08-13 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) writes: So, 12 years old FICON is simply obsolete and we should expect something new? And don't tell me about FICON enhancements, ESCON was enhanced as well! So? Shall we expect wi-fi based channels? FICON is features on top of FCS (fiber channel

Re: GUIfication of tn3270 screens

2012-08-13 Thread Ward, Mike S
Wouldn't something need to be programmed on the operating system side to actually do the step tracing and debugging? The 3270 window is just that, a window. It can't do the debugging itself. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: GUIfication of tn3270 screens

2012-08-13 Thread Kirk Wolf
If I understand the scenario, the OP has a 3270-based debugger product and wants to redeploy it as an Eclipse-based UI. You may want to consider implementing a command-line or packet based command interface to the product. Then, it would be simple from your Eclipse plugin to start and converse

Re: modifying secondary space allocation

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Aug 13, 2012, at 06:26, Kerneels wrote: Only works , if there is are no active job with an ENQUE on the dataset ex. Parmlib. Silly question? How about DISP=SHR? If you can create a data set without exclusive ENQ (it has happened to me), why not extend one? On 8/13/2012 4:21 AM,

Re: modifying secondary space allocation

2012-08-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote in message news:3ad0e808-f931-4f5d-90ec-1962bb5e2...@aim.com... On Aug 13, 2012, at 06:26, Kerneels wrote: Only works , if there is are no active job with an ENQUE on the dataset ex. Parmlib. Silly question? How about DISP=SHR? If you can

Re: SHARE MVS Program Survey - Your Participation Requested

2012-08-13 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Just a reminder...the survey is closing this Friday, August 17. We've had a great response and the data is looking pretty interesting. We'll be sharing it with everyone after the survey concludes. If you have five minutes, please go and take the survey. Thanks! Mary Anne On Thu, 26 Jul 2012

Re: GUIfication of tn3270 screens

2012-08-13 Thread Scott Ford
I looked at Host OnDemand and looked scalable also, with macros and Apis. I used it at a customer site and liked it Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Aug 13, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote: If I understand the scenario, the OP has a 3270-based debugger product and wants

Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-13 Thread Art Gutowski
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:00:38 +0530, saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote: I checked with interskill but they don't have advanced course. for parallel sysplex they just have basic one, which doesn't include any setup and system programmer stuff.

Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE

2012-08-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:16:47 -0500, Patrick Loftus patrick.lof...@tnt.com wrote: We updated our automation product to log the jobname of address spaces issuing IEF352I, so we could see what was causing the problems when we had similar issues. We also found Mark Zeldens REXX very useful:

Re: modifying secondary space allocation

2012-08-13 Thread Dave Salt
If the data set isn't in use you can change *any* attributes using SimpList. Use function 'I' (Information) to select the data set from a list, then simply overtype any attributes you wish to change. Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it!

Re: Parallel Sysplex Online Training

2012-08-13 Thread Art Gutowski
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:52:57 -0500, Jim Marshall jim.marsh...@opm.gov wrote: Not to plug Peter Enrico's new Parallel Sysplex available class, but if I was new to Sysplex, it would be worth the money to sit at the feet (as close as a Web session could get me) of the Master. Here some info I got

Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE

2012-08-13 Thread Doug Henry
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:53:42 -0500, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: In addition: Everyone should be running Health Checker by now and there is a check in HC called IEA_ASIDS for ASID depletion as well and tells you how much time you have before an IPL will be required based on the depletion

Re: X86 server

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:16:14 +0200, Henri Kuiper wrote: Or are you hinting at running z/OS from x86 hardware? If the latter is the case : feel free to contact me. You can take a sneak peak at http://zdevops.com We do z/OS virtualizations on x86 hardware :). Would this be more like Platform

Re: GUIfication of tn3270 screens

2012-08-13 Thread David Cole
At 8/13/2012 09:33 AM, Ward, Mike S wrote: Wouldn't something need to be programmed on the operating system side to actually do the step tracing and debugging? The 3270 window is just that, a window. It can't do the debugging itself. Uh yeah... There already is. It's called z/XDC. You can

Re: X86 server

2012-08-13 Thread Mark Post
On 8/13/2012 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Would this be more like Platform Solutions Inc., or like Hercules, or like Neon ZPrime? I suspect it's more like (as in is) zPDT, or it's cousin RDz. Mark Post

Re: modifying secondary space allocation

2012-08-13 Thread Skip Robinson
The fully supported program product StarTool can modify secondary space of any PDS, allocated or not. Its ancestor, the PDS Command--available on CBT--has performed this function for decades. I've never heard of a failure. Note that modifying secondary space does not touch the allocation at

Re: modifying secondary space allocation

2012-08-13 Thread Jousma, David
Thanks Skip. I think you are misunderstanding my request. I don't want to add space to the dataset, I want to change the secondary space allocation from nothing(or something small) to something realistic, so that when space is needed, it gets more than just 1 track(we have many app datasets

Re: modifying secondary space allocation

2012-08-13 Thread Jousma, David
Gotcha, and thanks! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Skip Robinson Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 2:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: modifying secondary space allocation David, I did understand your

Valid DATACLAS names - where documented?

2012-08-13 Thread Kirk Wolf
I'm sorry if I'm dense, but I can't find this in the FM. Does anyone know where the valid syntax of a DATACLAS name is documented? Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Valid DATACLAS names - where documented?

2012-08-13 Thread Kirk Wolf
I thought that maybe IBM punted and only documented in the ISMF help screens, but its not there either. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: z/OS DFSMSdfp Storage Administration Document Number SC26-7402-13 But, it may not be useful. It is

Re: Valid DATACLAS names - where documented?

2012-08-13 Thread Gibney, Dave
Oh, you mean valid values for the name. I would expect standard z/OS JCL (and MVS before) up to 8 characters, uppercase letters, likely the Nationals are allowed. :) I bet it is in the JCL manual z/OS MVS JCL Reference Document Number SA22-7597-13 2.15.2 Subparameter Definition

Re: X86 server

2012-08-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In capmheapqah_j8ooge4ytzzhnstdmyra_elty4zsd3hgtp1k...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/13/2012 at 02:16 PM, Henri Kuiper henrikui...@zdevops.com said: If the latter is the case : feel free to contact me. You can take a sneak peak at http://zdevops.com We do z/OS virtualizations on x86 hardware :). What

Re: Valid DATACLAS names - where documented?

2012-08-13 Thread John Gilmore
The highly imaginative IBM examples I have seen, e.g., DATACLAS=DCLAS01, suggest the BNF syntax dataclas name ::= dataclas namenon-initial dataclass character | initial dataclas character initial dataclas character ::= majuscule | extender majuscule ::= A|B|...|Z ^ extender ::= @|#|$

Re: X86 server

2012-08-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 13 August 2012 11:06, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote: In capmheapqah_j8ooge4ytzzhnstdmyra_elty4zsd3hgtp1k...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/13/2012 at 02:16 PM, Henri Kuiper henrikui...@zdevops.com said: If the latter is the case : feel free to contact me. You can take a sneak

Re: Valid DATACLAS names - where documented?

2012-08-13 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
Although not the FM, the panel definitions (ex DGTSCDC2) suggests it is any valid member name as it has the following: VER (FCDCDCN,NAME,MSG=DGTUC013) BTW, the indicated message is DGTUC013 'INVALID CONSTRUCT NAME' .HELP= DGTMUC13 .ALARM= YES 'Must be 1 to 8 alphamerics starting with

Re: Valid DATACLAS names - where documented?

2012-08-13 Thread Lizette Koehler
Kirk, In z/OS V1.12 I have in ISMF DGTUC023 SUGGESTED ACTION: Correct and re-enter the construct name. The construct name must be a fully specified 1 to 30 alphameric for Copy Pool construct and 1 to 8 alphamerics for constructs

Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE

2012-08-13 Thread Jim Mulder
Ask IBM to fix DB2 and MQ to use reusable LXs Since DB2 does not use a reuseable LX, it cannot be called from a job using a reuseable ASID. Most annoying. While I agree with the sentiment, I would like to correct the terminology a bit... Running out out LXes and running out of ASIDs

Re: Valid DATACLAS names - where documented?

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:30:01 -0400, Gross, Randall [GCG-PFS] wrote: Subparameter Definition --- data-class-name Specifies the name of a data class to be used for allocating the data set. The name, one to eight characters, is defined by the storage

Re: ESCON

2012-08-13 Thread Tony Harminc
On 13 August 2012 09:31, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com wrote: In that time-frame, IBM had developed its own serial-copper for disk operation (internal name harrier out of hursley) and announced as 9333. It ran 80mbits/sec ... full-duplex (aka concurrent 80mbit/sec in both direction)

Re: ESCON

2012-08-13 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) writes: One would think that Fortune 500 companies would protect their old sites, but no one seems to have noticed or cared about this one. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#68 ESCON http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#69 ESCON how 'bout all the san

DNS lookup failures (was: ESCON)

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
DNS squatting and recycling On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:10:19 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: SSA was an industry standard for a few milliseconds in 1997. It's sad/amusing to scan the Wayback Machine for the quondam SSA Industry Association site www.ssaia.org . From 1997 to early 1998, it's there, along

Re: Valid DATACLAS names - where documented?

2012-08-13 Thread John Gilmore
The language Paul Gilmartin cites is certainly not felicitous. As I have already noted, the OPs problem was, however, a different one. He used dataclass=, a nine-character keyword parameter, in a context in which at most eight-character ones are supported. Now it is fair to note that the choice

Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE

2012-08-13 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 17:45 -0400 on 08/13/2012, Jim Mulder wrote about Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE: Since DB2 and MQ use the ESAR instruction, they cannot be called from a job using a reuseable ASID. Most annoying. I have been told that their are many instances of ESAR to the caller's address space

Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE

2012-08-13 Thread John Gilmore
As usual, OCO makes an external judgment all but impossible. We are at the mercy of an IBM development group's not necessarily disinterested judgment. Would it not be possible, without breaching OCO, to provide a more quantitative, confidence-inspiring statement than . . . there would be

Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE

2012-08-13 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
You went on a OCO rant without answering my question. I looked in the POPs manual and found the two differences between the use of ESAR and ESAIR - * In the EXTRACT SECONDARY ASN AND INSTANCE operation, the SASTEIN, bits 0-31 of control register 3, is placed in bit positions 0-31 of

Re: X86 server

2012-08-13 Thread Jake anderson
Hi, Does IBM provides support running Z/OS on X86 ? Jake On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: On 13 August 2012 11:06, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote: In capmheapqah_j8ooge4ytzzhnstdmyra_elty4zsd3hgtp1k...@mail.gmail.com, on

Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE

2012-08-13 Thread Jim Mulder
As usual, OCO makes an external judgment all but impossible. We are at the mercy of an IBM development group's not necessarily disinterested judgment. Would it not be possible, without breaching OCO, to provide a more quantitative, confidence-inspiring statement than . . . there would be