bigsnip
If India was very poor in terms of economy, There are many others poorer
than we think, why dont IBM think of it then? B-)
On Oct 17, 2013 11:11 AM, Ron Hawkins ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Ed,
That's great news. Good for the economy of a very poor country.
Ron
-Original
Started jobs also allow you to use DD * and some other features that were not
available for STC's. I think use of a JOBcard for CICS regions and the DD *
were the top uses that I have seen at shops I've consulted with.
Unless there was a really good reason to do so, I don't think I would try
If India was very poor in terms of economy, There are many others poorer
than we think, why dont IBM think of it then? B-)
IBM is not doing business to raise the economy of poor countries .
But they should also know that , they get only what they pay for . You make
more profit by paying less
Thats absolutely right..
On Oct 17, 2013 1:44 PM, Robert Hahne roberthahne...@hotmail.com wrote:
If India was very poor in terms of economy, There are many others poorer
than we think, why dont IBM think of it then? B-)
IBM is not doing business to raise the economy of poor countries .
In 5db5e473-e316-49cc-8abb-27adb00c6...@optonline.net, on 10/16/2013
at 08:00 AM, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net said:
I think the main problem is not whether I am writing authorized code
But the documentation or lack of, on
The TSO verify exit
The documentation seems perfectly
In
CAPtSOKxxsPYXW0Epomk9sgo=tzmx9q4fkg1bkbcarzgxsnu...@mail.gmail.com,
on 10/16/2013
at 10:35 AM, Bill Ashton bill00ash...@gmail.com said:
1. Why is a Started Job better than a Started Task?
Better? It's different, e.g., you supply a job statement instead of
letting the system generate one.
In 569dedf0-9d6b-4cc6-becf-6c8c78207...@optonline.net, on 10/16/2013
at 08:58 AM, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net said:
I just looked in the Assembler Authorized Guide on Virtual Storage
And it says subpool 0 is always 8
I could find no such statement; I could find statements that say
In
ca+ndcobjhm8vi1by1eurhht9pstzrovzuqxs25i4wcckcm4...@mail.gmail.com,
on 10/16/2013
at 04:50 PM, Lou Losee llo...@gmail.com said:
Real word processing came into being in the early 1970's
Data centers were part for the real world. ATS and RUNOFF may seem
primitive to me today, but they were
In 9324615384719645.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
10/16/2013
at 05:45 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Damn! So I should change all the JCL samples I distribute in order
not to inconvenience customers.
As long as you accept that it was your suggestion and not mine,
In 525f3848.5040...@gmail.com, on 10/17/2013
at 09:07 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said:
Most of the articles I've read about healthcare.gov criticise the
design of the website for being old fashioned
Tufte should write a book on web design.
Form follows function.
As long as it
On 17/10/2013 8:24 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In 525f3848.5040...@gmail.com, on 10/17/2013
at 09:07 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said:
Most of the articles I've read about healthcare.gov criticise the
design of the website for being old fashioned
Tufte should write a
Robert Hagne wrote:
IBM is not doing business to raise the economy of poor countries .
But they should also know that , they get only what they pay for . You make
more profit by paying less ,but at the xpense of service quality .
That is Absolutly correct ..
IBM is first and Formost a
Folks
I think I know the answer but here goes .
We have (by oversight) an active base sysplex with CFRM couple datasets defined
in COUPLExx. As it is a base sysplex there is obviously no active CFRM policy.
Is there any way to remove the CFRM dataset definitions from the running
sysplex
We have (by oversight) an active base sysplex with CFRM couple datasets
defined in COUPLExx. As it is a base sysplex there is obviously no active
CFRM policy.
Are you sure you don't have an active CFRM policy? The policy that was last
active on those CFRM CDSs would have been activated, no
On 13Oct17:1203+, esst...@juno.com wrote:
Robert Hagne wrote:
IBM is not doing business to raise the economy of
poor countries . But they should also know that ,
they get only what they pay for . You make more profit
by paying less ,but at the xpense of service quality .
That is
Interesting. Googling F1 gives me Formula One results. (Yes, Googling F1
database yields relevant results.)
http://research.google.com/pubs/pub41344.html
Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of David Crayford
Sent:
Thanks all.
I think I am either 100% safe or about 99.99% safe without changing the JCL.
If it turns out to be .01% unsafe I will cross that bridge when I come to
it.
Barbara, my application is named the IBM Enterprise COBOL compiler so I
have no knowledge whether it does an EOV, but I would
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#47
for other reference to latest activity
Stockman in The Great Deformation: The Corruption of Capitalism in
America pg464/loc9995-1:
IBM was not the born-again growth machine trumpeted by the mob of Wall
Street momo traders. It was actually a
On 17/10/2013 9:17 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
Interesting. Googling F1 gives me Formula One results. (Yes, Googling F1
database yields relevant results.)
Try google spanner
http://research.google.com/pubs/pub41344.html
Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Charles,
I have to do something similar for SORTWK dd statements. And there are many
flavors of Sortwk that have to be coded for. But Sortwk cannot span volumes.
So, as far as my shop would be concerned, it would just be part of the
product requirements. So not a big deal. Your product just
Barbara
Definitely no CFRM policy active - D XCF tells me so.
I did suspect that I would need to do a cold (newly formatted Sysplex CDS)
sysplex-wide IPL. It's only a infrastructure (SDM) sysplex so it shouldn't be
that big a deal to correct it.
Thanks
Andrew
-Original Message-
Andrew,
If you have RLS in place (Record Level Sharing), that will be lost on a COLD
start. So, just have the information available when you IPL from a D
SMS,SMSVSAM,ALL command.
You will need it to put it back.
Lizette
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 03:04:24 -0500, Brian Westerman
brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com wrote:
Started jobs also allow you to use DD * and some other features that were not
available for STC's. I think use of a JOBcard for CICS regions and the DD *
were the top uses that I have seen at shops I've
In my shop we were using lots of tape jobs which are of 3490 old VTS kind.
Currently migrating to IBM7700 VTL.
We experience lots of batch jobs failures from 3490 VTS followed by
equipment check 0C4 -11 or 4. These jobs are reading dataset written on
multiple logical volumes. What I noticed the
Ask the vendor of VTS.
This may be a known problem with a fix available.
Or it may be a new problem that they should fix.
Bill Fairchild
Franklin, TN
- Original Message -
From: suresh chacko surecha...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013
I do _not_ know why your are getting these types of abends after a tape I/O
error. My _guess_, without any kind of dump available, is that the program
code is reading beyond the I/O area. On a PC, this is usually called a
buffer overflow type error. On z/OS, if the virtual memory behind the
I/O
S taskname,,,MSGCLASS=class
snip
Besides the sysin mentioned, the biggest use I've seen is to change
the MSGCLASS from the STC default. For example, to send all the output to a
output
management product.How else would you do it outside of starting the STCs
you want
with the MSGCLASS=n
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:15:43 +, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com
wrote:
S taskname,,,MSGCLASS=class
snip
Besides the sysin mentioned, the biggest use I've seen is to change
the MSGCLASS from the STC default. For example, to send all the output to a
output
management product.
For Enterprise COBOL v4.1 and 4.2, if you are loading the compiler from an
assembler program and want to override SYSOPTF or DBRMLIB, they are entries
20 and 21 respectively in the Alternative DD name list.
For Enterprise COBOL v5.1, if you want to override SYSOPTF or DBRMLIB, they
are reversed
Well okay. Thanks. I wondered if I might report an error but I was not sure
where the error might be (V4 doc? V5 doc? or no error, the doc truly
reflects the software) and did not take or had not taken the time to test to
figure it out.
I was working from the 4.1 U/G when I noticed the problem
This topic is very interesting to me. When I worked for IBM for my last
job, the team I was on did the systems programming for a number of z/OS
accounts in the US. Most of the accounts had their computer operations in
India. Most of the people I talked to had good English, but it's not the
And this product is called NOMAD from Select Business Solutions. It has only
been available since 1976 or thereabouts.
And you can even MIX hierarchical and RDBMS if you want.
Geez. Another wheel reinvented.
Lloyd
From: David Crayford
On 17 October 2013 09:23, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com wrote:
Stockman in The Great Deformation: The Corruption of Capitalism in
America pg464/loc9995-1:
IBM was not the born-again growth machine trumpeted by the mob of Wall
Street momo traders. It was actually a stock buyback
At the DR site, issue the Arecover with the Prepare parameter.
In this example, the ARECOVER command for the aggregate group,
PAY1.C.C01V0001, is prepared. This preparation eliminates the overhead of
verification processing or data movement associated with the VERIFY or
EXECUTE
I have only 2 cents to add.
1) is there an actual STC proc? Or is it a shell command starting a Unix
process?
2) there are a couple of C or Unix environment variables that can be set
that would precede SYSTCPD.
Rob Schramm
On Oct 16, 2013 1:21 PM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote:
Stop
Hello Everyone,
I have a REXX in which I have coded various commands that I do every time I
have to look at a dump.
In those commands is a DROPSYM statement, in fact, several of them.
What I would like to do is eliminate the message:
BLS18064I No symbols found
that is produced by the DROPSYM
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:58:24 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
Agreed on both points. (And failing that, c'mon man, how about a little
consistency?)
Built into ATTACH would be a big architectural deal.
But keywords are easy!
Tom Ross's explanation of the problem provides a powerful argument for
Thread drift
I see a lot of design issues with trying to do magic DD overrides. What about
products that check the TIOT for a DD's existence? Do they see the actual DD
name or the name they expect to see? What does SVC 99 info retrieval reflect?
If you target just the average application
leful...@sbcglobal.net (Lloyd Fuller) writes:
And this product is called NOMAD from Select Business Solutions. It
has only been available since 1976 or thereabouts.
And you can even MIX hierarchical and RDBMS if you want.
recent post in thread on cloud killing traditional hardware
News today:
After bragging about using and contributing open source,
healthcare.govviolated a open source license for a popular javascript
UI toolkit:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-website-violates-licensing-agreement-copyrighted-software_763666.html
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#47
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#61
NSA Revelations Kill IBM Hardware Sales In China
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/10/wolf-richter-nsa-revelations-kill-ibm-hardware-sales-in-china.html
from above:
But there was nothing to spin in
They had to go to China and else where---idiots still buying WINDOWS
servers
From: Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 10/17/2013 04:03 PM
Subject:Re: IBM now employs more workers in India than US
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
You need to tell us what software is experiencing the 0C4 abends.
You also should start your own discussion, with a new subject, for this since
it is not at all related to the discussion you chose to reply to.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Chuck,
Try: SETDEF FLAG(TERMINATING)
In article
9b26bc6a6df52d4483dd73b1fe7b4b066ceed21...@uspho-mxvs07.amer.thermo.com you
wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I have a REXX in which I have coded various commands that I do every time I
have to look at a dump.
In those commands is a DROPSYM
Thanks Don, but I already have the following in my REXX:
setdef local noconfirm flag(terminating)
setdef global noconfirm flag(terminating)
I know, I could have left off the local and global and just issue a single
command and it would be treated as global.
Charles (Chuck) Hardee
Senior
Everything else aside, it's sad that IBM has come to this. TJ Watson
must be spinning. A good part of the demise of the Poughkeepsie and
Kingston areas is the decline of IBM influence in those areas. The
result has not been pretty.
On 10/17/2013 5:03 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
snip...
NSA
On 18/10/2013 4:26 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
News today:
After bragging about using and contributing open source,
healthcare.govviolated a open source license for a popular javascript
UI toolkit:
John is completely correct that you need to look at a dump. It could be almost
anything. Most programs have an expectation about the data they read (e.g.
specific record layout and specific lengths). If the program ignores the I/O
error and assumes the data is valid, then you could have any
Well everyone is right (or something close anyway).
The s0C4 could be something like trying to write a logrec record
(possibly an error occurred during the format of the new record or...
it could just about be anything without basic info its hard to say).
Ed
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