What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-23 Thread Peter Hunkeler
It seems, we've got enough real storage and enough Flash Memory. There is hardly any paging. We've got two local page data sets mainly because VIO paging will not go to Flash Memory. We're starting to see local page data set usage at ~30%. I conclude that this must be VIO data being paged

Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-23 Thread Martin Packer
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Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-23 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
If you have mainview, try: F pasname,*asm,total For more details: F pasname,*HELP ASM Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler Sent: 23 October, 2014 8:44 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: What

Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter Hunkeler wrote: It seems, we've got enough real storage and enough Flash Memory. There is hardly any paging. We've got two local page data sets mainly because VIO paging will not go to Flash Memory. We're starting to see local page data set usage at ~30%. I conclude that this must be

Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-23 Thread Andrew Rowley
Hi Peter I added some functionailtiy to EasySMF to try to answer this sort of question. You need the SMF type 75 and type 30 (all subtypes) records. Select the RMF Paging Activity: Page Dataset Usage report, and select the system you are interested in. Click and drag on the chart to select

AW: Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-23 Thread Peter Hunkeler
We're starting to see local page data set usage at ~30%. I conclude that this must be VIO data being paged out. What let you arrive at that conclusion? Just curious if you don't mind please. We're using only a few percent of the Flash Memory, so I see no reason paging should go to AUX.

AW: Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-23 Thread Peter Hunkeler
If you have mainview, try: F pasname,*asm,total For more details: F pasname,*HELP ASM We do have MAINVIEW, but I'm just a beginner in finding my way around, so please bear with me. Where would I enter these commands? MAINVIEW ISPF rejects F --Peter Hunkeler

Re: DFSORT

2014-10-23 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
Ron, I believe that is what it does with the statements you have. The two input files (F1 and F2) are sorted based on the specified FIELDS operands before they are joined, unless you indicate that an input file is already sorted on the JOINKEYS statement. Or are you expecting the actual input

[ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
Lua is a powerful, fast scripting language with vibrant user communities on many platforms. Lua celebrates its 20th birthday this year. From the Lua website (http://www.lua.org/about.html): Lua has a deserved reputation for performance. To claim to be as fast as Lua is an aspiration of

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread John McKown
Thank you. I guess this means that I need to learn lua now grin/. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 6:38 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: Lua is a powerful, fast scripting language with vibrant user communities on many platforms. Lua celebrates its 20th birthday this year. From the Lua

Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-23 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
This is a console command, use SDSF: /F ... Do you have access to the mainview ispf interface? Start it, select 'Z', select '1', enter 'JSTOR' and you will see the ASM Slot usage under the column Avg Slots, next to it are Avg Vio and Avg NVio. Put 'SO D' after command, put your cursor on the

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
On 23/10/2014 7:46 PM, John McKown wrote: Thank you. I guess this means that I need to learn lua now grin/. That shouldn't be too difficult for a man of your abilities 8^) Scripting languages are generally very easy to learn. Lua is has an almost identical feature set to Javascript. They

Re: ldapchangepwd

2014-10-23 Thread Tim Brown
If I perform a ldapsearch with IBMUSER it works If I perform same with my id that has the SPECIAL attribute I get this message in SYSLOG. ICH408I USER(MYID ) GROUP(MYGROUP ) NAME(ME ) 383 LOGON/JOB INITIATION - PASS PHRASE IS NOT VALID We are not using password phrases. Does

Re: Question about Enterprise COBOL 5.1 LE compatible level.

2014-10-23 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Yuhas I have been asked to install Enterprise COBOL 5.1 which went GA in October of 2013. We are currently running z/OS 1.13 with a current RSU Level of 1404. We have Enterprise COBOL 4.2 and the

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:00 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/10/2014 7:46 PM, John McKown wrote: Thank you. I guess this means that I need to learn lua now grin/. That shouldn't be too difficult for a man of your abilities 8^) Scripting languages are generally very

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
On 23/10/2014 8:42 PM, John McKown wrote: ​Well, I got it installed. I ran into a problem with the ./lua4z​-1.0.0.bin when I ran it a second time. The first time, it said it couldn't find the PDSEs (LOADLIB and SAMPLIB) and did I want to define them? All is good. I reply Y and they are

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Barkow, Eileen
You need to enter the y in lower case - otherwise those dataset errors occur. I am not up to snuff on UNIX lately and do not understand what the ? in the environment variables mean. They did work when I added them to my profile, but I never saw this syntax before: export LUA_PATH=./?.lua;\

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE SELECT( ... ) HOLDDATA ?

2014-10-23 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
... I'm trying two commands: RECEIVE SELECT( ... ) FROMNTS( ... ) . RECEIVE HOLDDATA FROMNTS( ... ) . Interesting. SYSPRINT seems to show that it unpacks the HOLDDATA twice (once for each command?), although only the second uses it. But it unpacks SMPMCS only once. In fact

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 3:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering Thomas Berg wrote: Sometimes I have a need to do

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
On 23/10/2014 9:36 PM, Barkow, Eileen wrote: You need to enter the y in lower case - otherwise those dataset errors occur. I have now changed the installation script to fold all input to upper case. I am not up to snuff on UNIX lately and do not understand what the ? in the environment

Re: Question about Enterprise COBOL 5.1 LE compatible level.

2014-10-23 Thread Marna WALLE
Mark, Note this COBOL V5 PSP Bucket entry: 13/10/28 COBOL Version 5 now uses the SMP/E FIXCAT process to identify requisite PTF's. See sections 3.2, 4.2 and 6.1.10 of Program Directory for details. Required PTF's are not included in PSP. See technote

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:24 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: Can I convince you to try it again. I've uploaded an updated IVP. ​Well the install script does not give any error messages when I reuse the same PDSE library names. But the ivp still fails. I can't shake the feeling

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 15:43:44 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote: I want to copy position 31 to 40 of all records but from record 8 and 9 I want to copy also (concatenate) position 71 to 80 and from record 6 to 8 I also (concatenate in front) want to copy position 1 to 3. //*

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Thomas Berg
Hi Kolusu, The idea with symbols looks interesting. I haven't used them but from recent RTFM they felt attractive. 1. As this is to be used in a tool for general usage it can be of any (reasonable possible to implement) format. 2. No. This (primary) problem case is for a straight

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Thomas Berg
Hi Alfred, You can look at the answers I gave Elardus and Kolusu for the example data. 1. I'm not sure if I understand your question exactly, this (primary) problem case is for a straight inrecord---outrecord transition 2. Not necessarily. I'm out for a general solution. Best Regards,

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Thanks for the explanation about the ?s but I still do not see what they are being used to substitute for. I passed the UNIX IVP test, but my profile contains this: $ echo $LUA_PATH

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Thomas Berg wrote: An hypotethical example (monospace font recommended): Input: +1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 001aaa01cc01

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Norbert Friemel Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 15:43:44 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
I'm at a loss! Can you do this quick test for me. Invoke the Lua shell by typing lua in the shell type require cjson post the stack trace On 23/10/2014 9:51 PM, John McKown wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:24 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: Can I convince you to try it

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:07:41 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote: Thanks for the example. Although the numeric sequence numbers were there just to clarify the operation, rather than be an indication of the assumed format of an actual case. Do you have an example where you can’t rely on a

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Thomas Berg wrote: Thanks for the example. Thanks Norbert Friemel for your example showing IFTHEN and BUILD. Although the numeric sequence numbers were there just to clarify the operation, rather than be an indication of the assumed format of an actual case. Do you have an example where

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread John McKown
​I was certain that I did something wrong, but I don't know what. Somewhere I have missed a step. require cjson error loading module 'cjson' from file '/HealthMarkets/lua4z/lib/lua/5.1/cjson.so': dynamic libraries not enabled; check your Lua installation stack traceback: [C]: in

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering Thomas Berg wrote: An hypotethical example

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
On 23/10/2014 10:02 PM, Barkow, Eileen wrote: Thanks for the explanation about the ?s but I still do not see what they are being used to substitute for. I passed the UNIX IVP test, but my profile contains this: Lua has a module system that searches LUA_PATH substituting ? for the module

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Here is another thing I never saw before. I do not have a PDSE in linklist (that I can use) so I am trying to copy the LUA4Z.LOADLIB modules into a regular pds and get this error. I do not want to have another linklist lib added for this product and was always able to copy PDSE load modules

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Norbert Friemel Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:07:41 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:

AW: Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-23 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Start it, select 'Z', select '1', enter 'JSTOR' and you will see the ASM Slot usage under the column Avg Slots, next to it are Avg Vio and Avg NVio. Thanks! Found it. I was starting with PGDSTAT. The JSTOR view doesn't tell which AUX slots are Flash and which are page DS slots. It's the sum

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Thanks again for the explanation David - I am learning a lot installing this product. See my other posting about the PDSE to PDS issue. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
Unfortunately that's not possible. Lua4z is a C/C++ XPLINK application and it requires a PO library so a PDSE is mandatory. I understand your position but XPLINK is the build and it results in much faster code. I know you probably already know this but you can always dynamically add a PDSE to

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Norbert Friemel Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering //STEP1 EXEC PGM=SORT //SYSOUTDD SYSOUT=*

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
There seems to be a problem loading the SO from a symlink. Can you try it without a symlink? It works on my system but if I can narrow it down to that and recreate it at our lab I can cut a fix. On 23/10/2014 10:18 PM, John McKown wrote: ​I was certain that I did something wrong, but I don't

Re: JCT is not available!

2014-10-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4454631278560122.wa.szwangxdgmail@listserv.ua.edu, on 10/21/2014 at 10:08 PM, Alex Wang szwan...@gmail.com said: 1. Under what circumstance, will the job have no job control table? STC under MSTR. If you control the source, you could dynamically identify the STC to the primary JES

Re: 64bit

2014-10-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caarmm9rskjgk-ypgufnhowtvkpbjbykdk0cr2i3vnnrrurx...@mail.gmail.com, on 10/21/2014 at 11:59 AM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: Here's the epilog code for a non-main function generated by an oldish version of IBM C: Doesn't the use of R1 violate the czlling convention? 00011A 051E

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5447c687.3060...@us.ibm.com, on 10/22/2014 at 11:00 AM, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com said: This is perhaps the strangest marketing decision ever made by the industry. Stranger than units of 1024000? most system limits are in powers of two, It would help if you would start using SI binary

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread John McKown
No joy: LIH1:TSH009:/HealthMarkets/lib$ rm liblua.so LIH1:TSH009:/HealthMarkets/lib$ lua Lua 5.2.0 Copyright (C) 1994-2011 Lua.org, PUC-Rio require cjson error loading module 'cjson' from file '/HealthMarkets/lua4z/lib/lua/5.1/cjson.so': dynamic libraries not enabled; check your

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:36:04 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote: When looking at this a second time, it seems very promising and more customizable than SUBSET + other options. One question: you placed the BI-field at the end. If it was very long records, would it from a performance view be better

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
You are not running the correct version of Lua. You have another version of Lua in your PATH which is why Lua 5.2.0 is being printed in the prompt. That's a relief! On 23/10/2014 10:53 PM, John McKown wrote: No joy: LIH1:TSH009:/HealthMarkets/lib$ rm liblua.so

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread John McKown
Ah! yes. I have an alpha, which I got from you?, in /HealthMarkets/bin. So the symlink commands (ln -s) for the new version into /HealthMarkets/lua4z/bin silently failed. I removed that old version, established the correct symlinks, and all is sunny and bright. This is not likely to happen to any

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Thanks again for the info. I will try to do without linklist for now. I tried to set up the LUACONF member as documented and get this error: And the parm //'SYS1.SAMPLIB(IVP)' is not accepted by the system. FREE FI(LUA)

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Ignore this - the DD should be LUACONF, not LUA -Original Message- From: Barkow, Eileen Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 11:33 AM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries Thanks again for the info. I will try to

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
LOL, good catch! Better try it with UNUM. I would suggest defining LUA source PDS data sets VB LRECL(256) BLKSIZE(32760). Lua reads config files as if they were UNIX files as a stream, not record oriented card image data sets. If that is not in the doc I will make sure it is. Thanks for the

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
On 23/10/2014 11:35 PM, Barkow, Eileen wrote: Ignore this - the DD should be LUACONF, not LUA Nope! The DD should be Lua and the member name should be LUACONF. -Original Message- From: Barkow, Eileen Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 11:33 AM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List'

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
On 23/10/2014 11:35 PM, Barkow, Eileen wrote: Ignore this - the DD should be LUACONF, not LUA Nope! The DD should be LUA and the member name should be LUACONF. -Original Message- From: Barkow, Eileen Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 11:33 AM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List'

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
On 23/10/2014 11:32 PM, John McKown wrote: Ah! yes. I have an alpha, which I got from you?, in /HealthMarkets/bin. So the symlink commands (ln -s) for the new version into /HealthMarkets/lua4z/bin silently failed. What I should do is test if an existing version of Lua exists and promt to take

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Barkow, Eileen
I got passed the LUA DD but cannot read the SAMPLIB FREE FI(LUA) IKJ56247I FILE LUA NOT FREED, IS NOT ALLOCATED ALLOC FI(LUA) DA('XCICS.LUA4Z.CONF') SHR CALL

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
On 23/10/2014 11:59 PM, Barkow, Eileen wrote: I got passed the LUA DD but cannot read the SAMPLIB FREE FI(LUA) IKJ56247I FILE LUA NOT FREED, IS NOT ALLOCATED ALLOC FI(LUA) DA('XCICS.LUA4Z.CONF') SHR CALL 'XCICS.LUA4Z.LOADLIB(LUA)' 'XCICS.LUA4Z.SAMPLIB(IVP)' lua: cannot open

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Thomas, As others have explained it is quite simple to get the desired results. I am showing examples for both FB and VB files using symbols. With symbols you have the flexibility of changing it and then not worry about changing the control cards. A brief explanation of the job. 1. The first

Re: DFSORT

2014-10-23 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Ron, Bart has explained as to what the control cards are doing. Are your Input files VB? If so you need to modify your control cards to retain the VB file attributes. Thanks, Kolusu DFSORT Development From: Ron Thomas ron5...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 10/22/2014

Re: 64bit

2014-10-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 October 2014 18:34, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: Here's the epilog code for a non-main function generated by an oldish version of IBM C: Doesn't the use of R1 violate the czlling convention? It's an internal czll/rdturn, so they can do what they like. Tony

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Sri h Kolusu
I certainly remember that some DFSORT gurus supplied answers in the past on IBM-MAIN where you insert key/sequence field, then do your selection/formatting/copy and remove the key/sequence field. Elardus Engelbrecht, And we still continue to answer questions related to DFSORT on IBM-Main

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Thomas Berg
Thanks Kolusu! It seems so easy when you (and Norbert) explains! :) Of course I should RTFM, but when you are ignorant it takes time find the relevant pieces. (I wonder how many work hours the help here at IBM-MAIN have saved?) Best Regards, Thomas Berg

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On 23 October 2014 07:38, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: Lua4z is available at no charge. Download it now from: http://lua4z.com Sigh - just what the world needs - another free as in free beer free software licence. As proprietary licences go, this one is perhaps less bad than many,

SRCHFOR within SDSF job queue

2014-10-23 Thread Pedro Vera
We can submit 'Request For Enhancements' to IBM using it's developerworks site. You can submit a request to IBM and then other users may vote for it. The more votes a request gets, the more likely it will be that IBM implements the suggestion. My suggestion, 59845, is about providing a SRCHFOR

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
On 24/10/2014 12:36 AM, Tony Harminc wrote: On 23 October 2014 07:38, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: Lua4z is available at no charge. Download it now from: http://lua4z.com Sigh - just what the world needs - another free as in free beer free software licence. As proprietary

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-23 Thread Mike Schwab
5.25 in Floppy disks were 320KiB then 1.2MiB 3.5 in Floppy disks were 1440 sectors of 512 for 720KiB then 2880 sectors for 1440KiB or 1.40MiB but labeled them as 1.44M. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 5447c687.3060...@us.ibm.com, on

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread John McKown
Why not just release it under the MIT license like the main lua code from www.lua.org is released under? Unless, of course, the company does not want to release the source. That is certainly allowable under the original's MIT license. And is one reason that the MIT license exists and is used. I.e.

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Barkow, Eileen
I am waiting for the LUA4Z.LOADLIB to be added to linklist. I do not have access to the ISPF command tables. HOWEVER, This job worked in batch. I put the LUACONF member in LUA4Z.SAMPLIB and ran this: //LUA EXEC PGM=LUA,PARM=IVP //STEPLIB DD DSN=XCICS.LUA4Z.LOADLIB,DISP=SHR

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
All good points yet again. The reality is that I work for a vendor and they sponsored the project with my wages. That's not a lot of money :) but they are used to a world in where IP = source code and anything different is alien to them. I'm very open to suggestions on this topic because you

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Also ran HELLO So it appears that the LUACONF member just has to be in the same dataset as the script to be run, not a separate CONF dataset. //LUA EXEC PGM=LUA,PARM=HELLO //STEPLIB DD DSN=XCICS.LUA4Z.LOADLIB,DISP=SHR //*UA DD DSN=XCICS.LUA4Z.CONF,DISP=SHR //LUA

Re: Question about Enterprise COBOL 5.1 LE compatible level.

2014-10-23 Thread Mark Yuhas
Sorry about the typo. We are running z/OS 1.13 and not 1.3. However, Mr. Schwab pointed to the Migration Guide for Enterprise COBOL 5.1 wherein I found this bit of info in the Language Environment's runtime support for different compilers: Enterprise COBOL for z/OS, Version 5.1 requires a

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
On 24/10/2014 1:30 AM, Barkow, Eileen wrote: Also ran HELLO So it appears that the LUACONF member just has to be in the same dataset as the script to be run, not a separate CONF dataset. That's correct. Lua was born as a configuration language so we chose to use a LUACONF member as part of

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
On 24/10/2014 1:25 AM, Barkow, Eileen wrote: I am waiting for the LUA4Z.LOADLIB to be added to linklist. I do not have access to the ISPF command tables. If you site is configured to do so you can copy the sample command table into a USRxCMDS member in your ISPTLIB. See the ISPF docs for

RFE voting at IBM developerWorks

2014-10-23 Thread Thomas Berg
I'm looking at RFEs at http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute May RFEs are marked with a private symbol which means I can't look at it or vote for it. Why is that? Best Regards, Thomas Berg ___ Thomas Berg Specialist

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:29 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: All good points yet again. The reality is that I work for a vendor and they sponsored the project with my wages. That's not a lot of money :) but they are used to a world in where IP = source code and anything

Re: RFE voting at IBM developerWorks

2014-10-23 Thread Mike Schwab
It is set by the area the suggestion applies to, not by the user. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote: I'm looking at RFEs at http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute May RFEs are marked with a private symbol which means I can't look at it or vote

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Barkow, Eileen
I have not checked the rest of the doc but the installation doc is not clear at all about running on MVS. For one thing, it does show any actual batch jcl example. The doc indicates that the LUACONF member should be in a separate dataset but does not state how to specify it in relation to the

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
Point taken. I have forwarded your mail to the ID person and I'm sure he will update it pretty quickly. Now you have Lua installed why don't you bench-test it against REXX and report if you get similar results to what I get on my machine

Re: DFSORT

2014-10-23 Thread Ron Thomas
Ok thanks Bart Kolusu for the clarifications. Thanks! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: RFE voting at IBM developerWorks

2014-10-23 Thread Thomas Berg
I suspected something like that, but why? It doesn't look like it's for security reasons, at least for many of them. (At least they should be readable.) Best Regards, Thomas Berg ___ Thomas Berg Specialist zOS/RQM/IT

Re: RFE voting at IBM developerWorks

2014-10-23 Thread Gord Tomlin
If I was submitting an RFE, I would certainly want to know in advance whether my submission would be readable by others outside of IBM, as this would influence what details I included in the submission. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin On 2014-10-23 13:53, Thomas Berg wrote: I suspected something

Re: RFE voting at IBM developerWorks

2014-10-23 Thread Don Poitras
I would guess it's the same reason vendors are asked to leave the room when IBM has a SHARE session where customers are asked for ideas for new features. In article a90e503c23f97441b05ee302853b0e6294c136f...@fspas01ev010.fspa.myntet.se you wrote: I suspected something like that, but why? It

Re: RFE voting at IBM developerWorks

2014-10-23 Thread Thomas Berg
I can understand that. But it also means that no one can vote for it. Nevertheless, your motive is reasonable for me. Best Regards, Thomas Berg ___ Thomas Berg Specialist zOS/RQM/IT Delivery Swedbank AB (Publ)

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL pondering

2014-10-23 Thread Steve Comstock
On 10/23/2014 10:22 AM, Thomas Berg wrote: Thanks Kolusu! It seems so easy when you (and Norbert) explains! :) Of course I should RTFM, but when you are ignorant it takes time find the relevant pieces. Or ... you could take a class. I'd come out of retirement for a bit in order to teacch in

Re: 64bit

2014-10-23 Thread John Gilmore
Tony H wrote | It's an internal czll/rdturn, so they can | do what they like. Not quite. There was[is?] an internal-to-IBM scheme for requesting [and receiving] exceptions from programming standards which IBM PL/I development groups used fairly often. A cogent, chiefly technical case had to be

Re: 64bit

2014-10-23 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
We do this always in our site-specific startup and return macros for ASSEMBLER programs; this way in save area trace, the program levels already returned show up by odd return addresses. It can be of some help in strange situations, where save area chains are partially destroyed. Kind regards

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Shane Ginnane
Good one Dave, glad you were able to convince your powers that be to get this out the door. Let's hope it gets some acceptance. Now you have Lua installed why don't you bench-test it against REXX and report if you get similar results to what I get on my machine Now don't you go training

Re: 64bit

2014-10-23 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Am 21.10.2014 19:53, schrieb Don Poitras: In article caarmm9rskjgk-ypgufnhowtvkpbjbykdk0cr2i3vnnrrurx...@mail.gmail.com you wrote: On 21 October 2014 10:09, Tom Marchant 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: I've never seen a case where BALR is used to return to the caller.

Re: 64bit

2014-10-23 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
There are several areas where LE does not agree well with the calling conventions, as I learned them in the mid 80s. - forward save area chaining (never done by LE, turning SYSUDUMP save area traces useless ... we fix this in our site specific interface modules, which are used between every two

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Doesn't the example in the benchmark show performance problems in EXECIO instead of REXX? EXECIO, IMO, is not part of the REXX interpreter, but instead it is a vehicle (an external function) to do I/O from REXX on z/OS. Other REXX implementations (for example, on Linux or Windows) don't use

Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-23 Thread Willie Bunter
Lizette, No, this is not RMM. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread David Crayford
On 24/10/2014 6:50 AM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: Doesn't the example in the benchmark show performance problems in EXECIO instead of REXX? EXECIO, IMO, is not part of the REXX interpreter, but instead it is a vehicle (an external function) to do I/O from REXX on z/OS. Other REXX implementations

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 54490f13.4040...@gmail.com, on 10/23/2014 at 10:22 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said: It's one of the big pluses vs REXX More specifically, the classic REXX included in z/OS and z/VM. Is there an open requirement to incorporate OOREXX? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg

AW: Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question

2014-10-23 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Q). It says The Modify Function Cannot Be Performed. Besides turning on SYSPLEX=YES, how can I get BPXOINIT to do a FILESYS=DISPLAY? Yes, I can work with D OMVS,F for Filesystems, but the RedBook on z/OS V1R13 Implementation shows that bpxoinit can tell me the UID and the OWNER. Excerpt

AW: Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question

2014-10-23 Thread Peter Hunkeler
My fuser -cu /tmp command shows many users of /tmp: MNPB4Ufuser -cu /tmp /SYSTEM/tmp: 8c(IBMUSER) 25c(RMFGAT) 50331938(IBMUSER) 33554852c(AUTO2) fuser says these are TSO USERIDs. But when I enter d omvs,u=IBMUSER I get back IBMUSER NOT FOUND. With ps -ef I can see the PIDS with

Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-23 Thread Scott Ford
I am with Bernd on the Rexx I/O has been a bottleneck, but logically speaking I/O can be a bottleneck being slow than memory functions. My Rexx experience is with VM, Netview, TSO, z/OS. Also Orexx on Linux and Windows. So I speak from experience as I am sure Bernd does. Scott ford