Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Hahne
Thank you all . It looks like security policies will have to be revisited . I'll go back to the management and see if they are okay to get rid off this requirement . As others have pointed out , JESJOBS and OPERCMDS would be the way to go if they insist on keeping these rules . I am also

Re: IBM Developerworks is gone!

2020-05-06 Thread kekronbekron
In before Martin chimes in with his treasure trove - https://mainframeperformancetopics.com/ - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 10:41 PM, Barkow, Eileen <02bc504b1642-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > https://developer.ibm.com/ seems to have some useful

Re: tape drice or tape cart???

2020-05-06 Thread Tim Hare
However you are specifying a device, or your task is selecting the device, the device is either already allocated to something else, or it is boxed and has no I/O paths.I'm not a big VM guy, but is it possible you have a device defined to multiple guests, and you have it online to more

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-05-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 May 2020 22:14:40 -0500, Tim Hare wrote: >... they boil down to authenticating using some non-RACF method, ... > Ouch! Sounds as if RACF needs an RFE, if true. But what does ssh do, for example? -- gil -- For

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-05-06 Thread Tim Hare
As many have stated you are limited to 8 upper case characters, 7 if you still use UADS; however if the MQ user is off-platform, perhaps one of the various tools for mapping other IDs to a RACF ID could be used? These are all part of RACF (not sure about ACF2 or Top Secret) but as I see it

Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
Actually, it's an MVS and JES question; the issues would be the same if you were using, e.g., ACF2. Entering system commands in the jobstream is an obsolete technique dating back to OS/360 and entering JES commands in the jobstream is an obsolete technique dating back to HASP and ASP. In most

Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-06 Thread retired mainframer
As near as I can tell, the system as delivered uses the OPER resource of the TSOAUTH class only to control access to the OPERATOR command. If you want to control the ability to issue JES commands from batch without an exit, you will need to update the access list for other classes and

Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 May 2020 16:58:59 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: >+1 +1 > >On 2020-05-06 16:43, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >> Are you still wanting to limit "non OPER" users to only those jobs beginning >> with their user ID? If so, for gods sake why? Sounds very 1960s... >> And how do you prevent their

zOSMF on a SYSPLEX

2020-05-06 Thread Steve Beaver
Thank you for all your patience with me. Getting zOSMF up is a challenge at best in a MONOPLEX. In a SYSPLEX it is a bit of a terror. I had use ISH to chain thru OMVS and find the bbgzangl executable. Then modify the PATHS in the ANG1 and the SRV1 after more research than I care to

Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Hahne
Hi Lizette, But , the JOBCLASS profiles looks to be protecting only the class parameter within the JCL . We are looking for something that enforce the jobname to start with their userid Regards, Robert -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
Maybe this? https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.ic ha700/ControllingJobClassUsage.htm Controlling job class usage An installation can control job class usage by granting access based on the submitter's profile, or based on the owner's profile, or both. The

Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Hahne
Hi Lizette , Yes...we run JES2 and SDSF both Regards, Robert From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 2:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit Do you run JES2? Do you have SDSF?

Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Hahne
Hi Lizette , Yes . We run JES2 and SDSF both Regards, Robert -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-06 Thread David Spiegel
+1 On 2020-05-06 16:43, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Are you still wanting to limit "non OPER" users to only those jobs beginning with their user ID? If so, for gods sake why? Sounds very 1960s... From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Robert Hahne

Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
Do you run JES2? Do you have SDSF? Do you have z/OSEM? Any tools? Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert Hahne Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 1:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: TSO/E SUBMIT exit Hello listers , I understand

Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Hahne
I agree ..It is a pretty old system and these exits have been out there for very long and we might get rid off that restriction some time soon . But , I wanted to eliminate this exit first and was wondering if RACF can do that .

Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-06 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Are you still wanting to limit "non OPER" users to only those jobs beginning with their user ID? If so, for gods sake why? Sounds very 1960s... From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Robert Hahne Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:34 PM To:

TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Hahne
Hello listers , I understand this is a RACF question . But thought someone can help me here . We have a requirement where TSO submit exit IKJEFF10 needs to be eliminated . Currently it is written to ensure only those users with TSOAUTH(OPER) are allowed to submit jobs with any name . Rest of

Re: JES2 Checkpoint Size 1.13 to 2.2

2020-05-06 Thread Mike Schwab
90% of 40 is 36, so I would make it 70 on one system then try starting z/OS 2.2. Once you see the utilization there you can figure another size and change again. On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:34 PM Elaine Beal wrote: > > Thanks. > I can't start 2.2 (so can't enter the $DACTIVATE) and on my 1.13

Re: ispf save / restore swapbar ?

2020-05-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
> I guess you're not using "bare / }green screen" 3270 emulation ObForeverAmber AFAIK the 3178 was IBM's last green screen. Even then you had fields that you could click on with a detector pen; later 3270 models added additional facilities. > ( ISPF) to access your mainframe? ISPF, CICS,

Re: ispf save / restore swapbar ?

2020-05-06 Thread Mike Stramba
On 5/6/20, Bob Bridges wrote: > Ok, stupid question: What's a swapbar? It sounds familiar, so maybe it's > something I'm familiar with but have just forgotten momentarily. But...? I guess you're not using "bare / }green screen" 3270 emulation ( ISPF) to access your mainframe? Is anybody

Re: JES2 Checkpoint Size 1.13 to 2.2

2020-05-06 Thread Elaine Beal
Thanks. I can't start 2.2 (so can't enter the $DACTIVATE) and on my 1.13 system it's 40 cyls, 90% free so presumably CFSIZER would say that's enough. I can double or triple it no problem but I find it a little strange that 2.2 needs over 90% of my current allocation when JOBS/JOES/BERTS etc

Re: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

2020-05-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 7 May 2020 01:02:55 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >> >> On 2020-05-06 11:32 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote: >>> Not so fast: cp and cat are both /bin/sh built-in commands ( documented >>> under "Built-in commands" in the command reference for sh). So the shell >>> does employ DDs;-) >> >> I didn't

Re: IBM Developerworks is gone!

2020-05-06 Thread Barkow, Eileen
https://developer.ibm.com/ seems to have some useful things like tutorials, but I cannot find any forums for reporting problems and answering questions. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 1:04 PM To:

Re: IBM Developerworks is gone!

2020-05-06 Thread scott Ford
Cheryl, Amen, I agree. The Developerworks information is valuable for all. IBM must stop, who do we need to write to ? Scott On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 12:49 PM Cheryl Watson wrote: > Hi all, > > Remember when IBM went through and deleted from their websites what they > considered "old" manuals

Re: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

2020-05-06 Thread David Crayford
On 2020-05-07 12:55 AM, David Crayford wrote: On 2020-05-06 11:32 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote: Not so fast: cp and cat are both /bin/sh built-in commands ( documented under "Built-in commands" in the command reference for sh). So the shell does employ DDs;-) I didn't know that! I thought they were

Re: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

2020-05-06 Thread David Crayford
On 2020-05-06 11:32 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote: Not so fast: cp and cat are both /bin/sh built-in commands ( documented under "Built-in commands" in the command reference for sh).So the shell does employ DDs;-) I didn't know that! I thought they were binaries in /bin! Thanks ;)

IBM Developerworks is gone!

2020-05-06 Thread Cheryl Watson
Hi all, Remember when IBM went through and deleted from their websites what they considered "old" manuals and documentation? Well, they just did it again! They've removed all the DeveloperWorks articles that have provided such excellent information since its creation. And these aren't just OLD

Re: ALTROOT

2020-05-06 Thread Jousma, David
*optional* might be debatedI wouldn’t run without. In a sysplex configuration, the alternate sysplex root file system is a hot standby for the sysplex root file system that is used to replace the current sysplex root file system when the sysplex root file system becomes unowned. The

Re: ALTROOT

2020-05-06 Thread Jousma, David
In case the sysplex root becomes corrupt. It will save you from losing your entire sysplex. The directory structure of the ALTROOT must be the same as the sysplex root. I run this script on a regular basis. I don't claim that it is the most efficient or best way to do, but it does get the

Re: ALTROOT

2020-05-06 Thread Steve Beaver
Thank you -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ALTROOT This is for recovery and migration purpose. It will allow the sysplex

Re: ALTROOT

2020-05-06 Thread Allan Staller
This is for recovery and migration purpose. It will allow the sysplex root dataset to be replaced without a sysplex-wide IPL. It is optional and *NOT* required. HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:27 AM

Re: JES2 Checkpoint Size 1.13 to 2.2

2020-05-06 Thread Allan Staller
I concur/Lizette. CFSIZER will give you a size. Double that and make the large enough so that you never have to worry. Mine are 120 cyls to support 100K jobs and 300k JOES. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020

ALTROOT

2020-05-06 Thread Steve Beaver
I have come up against a question that I can't answer. In OMVS why is an ALTROOT needed in a SYSPLEX? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Provenance of SYS1.DUMP and IPCS

2020-05-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
I did an edit to [[Core dump]] in Wikipedia, in which I mentioned SAR and IPCS. Does anybody remember which release added unformatted dumps? The first release of IPCS. Transaction dumps. Also, if anybody has the relevant manuals please consider adding references to the article. Thanks. --

Re: JES2 Checkpoint Size 1.13 to 2.2

2020-05-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
I would start with the CFSIZER tool on www.ibm.com - not great, but it would be a good starting point. Next use $DACTIVATE on you V2.2 system. See what it says. The ability to upgrade is not as important as how many BERTs you need or what the checkpoint size needs to be. Then if you have

Re: JES2 Checkpoint Size 1.13 to 2.2

2020-05-06 Thread Elaine Beal
Allan, Thank you. How would I know how large to make it, leaving a reasonable amount of free space? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

2020-05-06 Thread Kirk Wolf
On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:35 AM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > >On 2020-05-06 8:31 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote: > >> cat DD: isn't documented as supported? :-) > >> > >> what about "cp //DD:xxx /dev/fd1" - is that the shell? > >> > I don't believe shell is

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 2 May 2020 to 3 May 2020 (#2020-125)

2020-05-06 Thread Keith Banham
Hi As Ed points out Userids, Passwords and Passphrases are the easiest security credentials to bypass; by malware, sharing credentials, looking over ones shoulder or even the odd post-it note! And your users should definitely not be using the same password for all of your disparate systems, but

Re: S0F9 and SOFD ABENDs and SVC dumps - oh my!

2020-05-06 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 4 May 2020 16:29:48 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >On Mon, 4 May 2020 at 04:23, Barbara Nitz wrote: > >> Doesn't matter. With an IMS region, you cannot use cancel (z/OS: >> "non-cancelable, use force arm"). You cannot use force arm (z/OS: "cancel >> first, please"). And you cannot use

Re: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

2020-05-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 May 2020 20:40:20 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >We've had this conversation many times before. Utilities that use >fopen() support DD:xxx and are not likely to change. > >Gil is being pedantic. But maybe IBM should update the doc? > Pedantic, yes, but I'd be loath to use in code

IBM SDK for Python - z/OS Beta Available

2020-05-06 Thread Jennifer Rowan
FYI.. IBM announces the beta release of SDK for Python – z/OS. If you are interested in participating in this feedback program, please email Jennifer Rowan (jen...@ca.ibm.com), Offering Manager for IBM SDK for Python – z/OS, and she will add you to the program. For comments or feedback

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-05-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
> If there's a complaint about something I wrote, OK, fine, but how about making sure it's a complaint about something I wrote? :-) You wrote several things. Different responses referred to different things you wrote. I don't recall anybody claiming that you can't have a long userid in instream

Re: ispf save / restore swapbar ?

2020-05-06 Thread Richards, Robert B.
SWAPBAR A toggle command used to display or remove a list of point-and-shoot fields for each ISPF logical screen. These fields are displayed on the last line of the physical screen. The SWAPBAR / command displays a a pop-up window which

Re: ispf save / restore swapbar ?

2020-05-06 Thread Bob Bridges
Ok, stupid question: What's a swapbar? It sounds familiar, so maybe it's something I'm familiar with but have just forgotten momentarily. But...? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The only thing UFO aliens deserve is to be ignored...and when we finally develop the

Re: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

2020-05-06 Thread Kirk Wolf
David, - using bash interactively and /bin/sh otherwise seems like a reasonable approach. (this makes me consider whether the COZBATCH default - to run the user's login shell - is problematic if this were popular) - I agree that change bash to use spawn looks extremely hard. Also, since bash

Re: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

2020-05-06 Thread David Crayford
We've had this conversation many times before. Utilities that use fopen() support DD:xxx and are not likely to change. Gil is being pedantic. But maybe IBM should update the doc? On 2020-05-06 8:31 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote: cat DD: isn't documented as supported? :-) what about "cp //DD:xxx

Re: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

2020-05-06 Thread Kirk Wolf
cat DD: isn't documented as supported? :-) what about "cp //DD:xxx /dev/fd1" - is that the shell? On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 3:50 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 5 May 2020 13:12:44 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: > > > >"deploy" ? > > > "employ"? > >

Re: z/os d,a,l --- What does "owt" mean ?

2020-05-06 Thread Greg Price
On 2020-05-02 8:24 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: As a Yorkshireman, it means "anything ". Nowt means "nothing". Ha ha ha ha - very good! For this sort of stuff I like to look at the swap reason code. TI - TSO input wait TO - TSO output wait (3-asterisk syndrome?) US - unilateral swap EX -

Re: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

2020-05-06 Thread David Crayford
BTW, if you want to use the delete key in the bash command line you need to put the following line into your readline init file. echo "\"\e[3~\"": delete-char >> ~/.inputrc On 2020-05-05 8:11 PM, Michael Babcock wrote: After reading this thread I finally have my command line completion back!

Re: Using Windows ssh with z/OS

2020-05-06 Thread David Crayford
Agreed. I've got access to she source repository and I don't think spawn will ever be implemented. I use bash as a login shell and /bin/sh for scripting and batch. Best of both worlds. On 2020-05-05 9:56 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote: FWIW, I would love to use bash exclusively on z/OS, but without