Re: USS ps command

2022-06-06 Thread Hank Oerlemans
which is how I found ps -o xasid :-) However https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=descriptions-ps-return-status-process is much easier to read than a man page on OMVS. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Don't feed the trolls

2022-06-06 Thread Phil Smith III
Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>Ah. This list I get digested; the one I was tinkering with uses Sender and >>From, >>where From is the list address. Lots of ways to skin this cat. >That feels wrong: >: > The originator fields indicate

SYNCSORT question: How to treat variable length KSDS as variable length input to SORT JOINKEYS

2022-06-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I have two files, one a flat file with RECFM=VB,LRECL=8004, one a VSAM KSDS with RECORDSIZE(3000 26000) denoting variable length records for that KSDS. However, when using that VSAM file as one side of a JOINKEYS operation, SYNCSORT claims the KSDS is RECFM=F: WER482I JNF2 STATISTICS WER483B

Re: Don't feed the trolls

2022-06-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 19:53:33 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >... >Ah. This list I get digested; the one I was tinkering with uses Sender and >From, where From is the list address. Lots of ways to >skin this cat. > That feels wrong: :

Re: Thunderbird?

2022-06-06 Thread Michael Oujesky
Might want to also have a look at Pandora Michael At 03:04 PM 6/6/2022, Carmen Vitullo wrote: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using Thunderbird + FireFox now after tons of issues with my ISP's email service using outlook, outlook express, I have my ISP email account and my gmail account

Re: Don't feed the trolls

2022-06-06 Thread Phil Smith III
Ed Jaffe wrote: >From: should be what you want. When I look at the mail headers from your >post to which I am responding, I see: Ah. This list I get digested; the one I was tinkering with uses Sender and From, where From is the list address. Lots of ways to skin this cat. My only problem

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Retired Mainframer
There are numerous examples in the history of this group where members have pilloried articles (and authors) that demonstrate a significant lack of understanding about the mainframe. It was initially amusing (now it's just boring) that some members don't seem inclined to apply the same

Re: USS ps command

2022-06-06 Thread Steve Smith
For the first question, SDSF has a PS command that shows all that. For the USS ps command, there is 'man' and a manual that you can refer to; both guaranteed to be more accurate than whatever someone posts here. sas On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 4:17 PM Kenneth J. Kripke wrote: > Is there a way to

Re: USS ps command

2022-06-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 16:16:24 -0400, Kenneth J. Kripke wrote: >Is there a way to list the PID, PPID, UID, and, ASID associated with a USS >job or task running on z/OS? > >Of primary interest is to obtain the ASID of the Job or STC. Currently, I >am using BPXUNIX and issuing the call to gather the

USS ps command

2022-06-06 Thread Kenneth J. Kripke
Is there a way to list the PID, PPID, UID, and, ASID associated with a USS job or task running on z/OS? Of primary interest is to obtain the ASID of the Job or STC. Currently, I am using BPXUNIX and issuing the call to gather the information on all USS processes using 'ps -ef' which does

Re: Thunderbird?

2022-06-06 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I'm using Thunderbird + FireFox now after tons of issues with my ISP's email service using outlook, outlook express, I have my ISP email account and my gmail account setup using Thunderbird, for me, much easier and offers some basic encryption, open pgp IIRC. Carmen On 6/6/2022 2:00 PM, Bob

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 09:10:34 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >... This list could make >a rule "no criticism of IBM" or "no criticism of BMC" without violating the >Constitution. > I hope the list makes no such rule. It might unduly constrain writers untrained in journalistic who might carelessly

Thunderbird?

2022-06-06 Thread Bob Bridges
I've heard good things about Thunderbird before, but never looked into it seriously. Are there features in it for true programming (as Outlook has using VBA)? Where would you recommend I search for more detailed information? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I

Re: Quarterly RSU

2022-06-06 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Excellent link, thanks for sharing Carmen On 6/6/2022 11:19 AM, Patrick Loftus wrote: Still the case as far as I'm aware. Check out https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/ibm-zos-consolidated-service-test-our-mission Regards Patrick -- Original Message -- From "Donald Blake" To

Re: Don't feed the trolls

2022-06-06 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/6/2022 7:44 AM, Phil Smith III wrote: Outlook's junk filtering has "block sender", but I just did some experimenting with list postings (another list) and it didn't block Senders, just From. From: should be what you want. When I look at the mail headers from your post to which I am

Re: Quarterly RSU

2022-06-06 Thread Patrick Loftus
Still the case as far as I'm aware. Check out https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/ibm-zos-consolidated-service-test-our-mission Regards Patrick -- Original Message -- From "Donald Blake" To IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date 06/06/2022 16:56:37 Subject Quarterly RSU Is it still true that

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Charles Mills
And Freedom of Speech applies to "Congress" (and by extension the States). It does not apply to a private venue such as this one. This list could make a rule "no criticism of IBM" or "no criticism of BMC" without violating the Constitution. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Tony Perri, Santa Rosa Software
Freedom of speech is not guaranteed in the US. There are many things you cannot say freely, such as "fire" in a crowded theater causing mass panic, when in fact, there was no fire. Best regards, Tony Perri, CEO/Co-founder Santa Rosa Software, LLC https://santarosasoftware.com

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Tony Perri, Santa Rosa Software
This has been an entertaining read. My 2 cents' worth is that it could be factual that you said you stated your opinion. And, factually, you did state your opinion. Hopefully not to offend and respectfully, Tony Perri, CEO/Co-founder Santa Rosa Software, LLC https://santarosasoftware.com

Quarterly RSU

2022-06-06 Thread Donald Blake
Is it still true that IBM does more extensive testing for quarterly RSUs than on the other monthly RSUs? It's been suggested to me that this may no longer be the case. But wisdom used to be to perform maintenance on the quarterly's. My understanding was (may be dated) that IBM performed more

Re: Don't feed the trolls

2022-06-06 Thread Carmen Vitullo
good to know, I have a gmail account using Thunderbird, but my best option so far was to sort in the 'correspondence' and delete all emails from one person, took some time but worth it and saved me some folder space :) Carmen On 6/6/2022 10:02 AM, Dustin Hayes wrote: Vanguard Integrity

Re: Don't feed the trolls

2022-06-06 Thread Dustin Hayes
Vanguard Integrity Professionals - External - Public For those interested, if you want to block a particular sender then look into [message headers] as a means to do this. This enables you to get around the problems with message relays (IBM-L, RACF-L, etc). When you look at the message headers

Re: Logstream Sizing

2022-06-06 Thread rpinion865
That's why you get paid the big bucks for being a z/OS system programmer. Unless zOSMF incorporates this calculation, and anyone without prior z/OS system programming experience can do it :) Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Monday, June 6th, 2022 at

Logstream Sizing

2022-06-06 Thread Steve Beaver
I figured out how to compute the number of cylinders: STG_SIZE(119880) LS_SIZE(119880) This works out to be 666 cylinders with a CISIZE of 24576 Why IBM would / could not publish this MINOR equation is a mystery to me

Re: Don't feed the trolls

2022-06-06 Thread Phil Smith III
Outlook's junk filtering has "block sender", but I just did some experimenting with list postings (another list) and it didn't block Senders, just From. Microsoft has a history of not understanding the Sender/Reply-To/From hierarchy.

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Bill Johnson
It’s the Yahoo free email system. Every fact/opinion was AFTER the statement regardless. 5. The lawsuit with BMC will be overturned. Opinion based upon my knowledge of the law. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, June 6, 2022, 10:30 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: "Fact.5." Some people

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
"Fact.5." Some people can't remember what they wrote. Now, it may be that you garbled the punctuation, but that's a you issue, not a me issue. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Bill Johnson
Are you the TRON guy? If so, everyone needs to google you. On Monday, June 6, 2022, 10:18:30 AM EDT, Jay Maynard wrote: You've made your position abundantly clear, Bill. Now drop it. On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 9:14 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
With freedom of speech guarantied in this country, he has every right to criticize what Bill chooses to worship, just as Bill has every right to disregard that criticism. You, of course, have every right to criticize either or both of them, and they both have every right to ignore such

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Bill Johnson
LOL, and you people said I can't read. I actually said OPINION for 5. On Monday, June 6, 2022, 10:23:26 AM EDT, Seymour J Metz wrote: Item 5 is an opinion, not a fact. Do you know what is in the sealed motions? Do you know what effect they will have on the final outcome? I expect the

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
Item 5 is an opinion, not a fact. Do you know what is in the sealed motions? Do you know what effect they will have on the final outcome? I expect the judgement to be overturned, but the Universe often blows away expectations, and there are a lot of jokers in this deck. Even were I privy to all

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Jay Maynard
You've made your position abundantly clear, Bill. Now drop it. On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 9:14 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I don't worship anyone or anything. It sets you up for disappointment. > What I've said about IBM is this. > 1. They've survived

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Bill Johnson
I don't worship anyone or anything. It sets you up for disappointment. What I've said about IBM is this. 1. They've survived 111 years in a industry that spits out companies like a baseball player chewing tobacco. Fact. 2. They lead the world in patents. Almost every year. Fact. 3.  Their major

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Mohammad Khan
Gabe, With freedom of religion guaranteed in this country, you have no business criticizing what or who Bill chooses to worship. Regards MKK On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 16:29:48 -0400, Gabe Goldberg wrote: >I don't have a dog in this ridiculous fight -- though I've also lived a career >based on IBM

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Here here! Reminds me of my grand kids, 5 and 9 years old arguing Carmen On 6/6/2022 8:22 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: This thread is getting tedious. For those that are so inclined can you take your food fight to an e-mail thread outside of this list? For one I’m not impressed with name

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Matt Hogstrom
This thread is getting tedious. For those that are so inclined can you take your food fight to an e-mail thread outside of this list? For one I’m not impressed with name calling, speculation and other forms of communication about something no one on this list knows about or can influence. I

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
Be thankful that you don't know; I'd hate to be on a jury for a complex and long running case. But at least none of the evidence is likely to be traumatic. Serve on a Federal grand jury and you may see things that you'd rather not. Yeah, McDonald's looks different once you know that they were

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Bob Bridges
Indeed. I've long ago concluded that I DON'T KNOW what's going on behind the scenes. For example, we love to repeat horror stories about legal decisions that have everyone exclaiming "miscarriage of justice" - but often enough when I learn of some of the background details, I realize our

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Jay Maynard
I don't remember anyone claiming more than the article actually said. Now can we please move along? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
"The house is white on this side" (RAH, SIASL) -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Tony Harminc [t...@harminc.net] Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 3:09 PM To:

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
Please stop claiming that text says more than it actually says. The word "ordered" does not mean that IBM will actualy pay anything. Given the presence of sealed motions, I doubt that anybody on the list is in a posiiion to make more than an educated guess about the final outcome. Even with

Re: Don't feed the trolls

2022-06-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
Some common clients are very limited on what criteria you can request. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Ed Jaffe [edja...@phoenixsoftware.com] Sent:

Re: data set deletion problem

2022-06-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
First, Peter is in a much better posiotion than you or I to know how the code works. Second, the ENQ for LNKLSTxx members is permanent; only dynamically allocated LNKLST datasets can be unallocated. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: data set deletion problem

2022-06-06 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Joe, I know who Peter is, however I also know that XCFAS is keeping LNKLST datasets allocated. It is not matter of opinion or conviction, it is a fact, easy to check. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 06.06.2022 o 13:08, Joe Monk pisze: Radoslaw, It's not good to argue with the

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

2022-06-06 Thread Bill Johnson
First off, I didn’t say YOU were a disgruntled ex IBM worker. Just that there are a plethora of them. IBM was even sued by some over the years. Age discrimination, if I’m not mistaken was a big reason. Which could explain why so many here are anti IBM. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On

Re: data set deletion problem

2022-06-06 Thread Joe Monk
Radoslaw, It's not good to argue with the guy who writes z/OS for ibm how it works. Joe On Mon, Jun 6, 2022, 06:50 Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > > On Tue, 31 May 2022 13:00:58 +, Peter Relson > wrote: > > > >> As far as I know, XCFAS would not allocate any data set other than what > XCF

Re: data set deletion problem

2022-06-06 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
On Tue, 31 May 2022 13:00:58 +, Peter Relson wrote: As far as I know, XCFAS would not allocate any data set other than what XCF itself needs (perhaps some sort of couple data set) IMHO XCF is used to allocated LNKLST datasets and I believe it is not because XCF needs them. And there is