Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Jon Perryman
> that was.weird, output wrapping and I don't think showing up in SECUSER If I remember correctly, a 3215 is 132 character print which is why messages are wrapping. I'm guessing that 3270 mode does not print some message attributes but in 3215 mode enables them because of the free space. Issue

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Phil Smith III
Jon Perryman kindly offered more thoughts. I've been doing VM for over forty years, though focused on z/OS for the last fifteen, so I am very familiar with PROP and SECUSER and like that. I agree that this is a VM thing, but I'm suspecting that it may have to do with some virtual device not

U.S. Federal Reserve Launches FedNow

2023-07-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
Congratulations to the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank on its launch of FedNow, the real-time fund transfer system. FedNow has launched with the participation of several banks of all sizes including (as large bank examples:) JP Morgan Chase, BNY Mellon, and Wells Fargo. To connect to FedNow

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Jon Perryman
> Tom Marchant asked about output from D C,L,S: Nothing you do in z/OS has anything to do with your problem. You said that z/OS messages are coming to your VM terminal and that it z/OS is accepting commands from the VM terminal. Everything in z/OS is fine and your problem is in VM. You want

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Phil Smith III
Tom Marchant asked about output from D C,L,S: RESPONSE=S0W1 CNZ4104I 21.48.57 CONSOLE SUMMARY 394 CONSOLES MATCHING COMMAND: D C,L,S NAME TYPESTATUS DEFINED MATCHED S0W10FFF MCS INACT *ALL*ALL S0W10SSI SUBSYS INACT *ALL

Re: IEFSSREQ

2023-07-20 Thread Joseph Reichman
Thank you that’s what I thought On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 9:51 PM Jon Perryman wrote: > > I looked at description of IEFSSREQ > > > Didnt see if it can be used in SRB mode > > > In theory and for the most part, IEFSSREQ can be used in SRB mode. Each > subsystem can process any functions it

Re: IEFSSREQ

2023-07-20 Thread Jon Perryman
> I looked at description of IEFSSREQ > Didnt see if it can be used in SRB mode In theory and for the most part, IEFSSREQ can be used in SRB mode. Each subsystem can process any functions it chooses. I suspect that all reputable subsystems would make themselves SRB compatible. If you choose

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Jon Perryman
> console traffic doesn't come across a SECUSER It's been a lot of years but I think you are talking about PROP. Do a search for VM PROGRAMMABLE OPERATOR and you will find information about setting it up. You may not even need PROP but it will tell you how to get messages from a VM guest and

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Tom Marchant
Ok, so you want to use the virtual system console. That was what I meant by "the console on the HMC". Poor terminology on my part. If you issue D C,L,S you can look for a console with HMCS in the TYPE column. That is your system console. I'm not sure how to help you further, but maybe we've

Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch (job library search & JSTCB

2023-07-20 Thread Peter Relson
Search a z/OS release's publications for Module Search Order and you will find this match: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=lla-module-search-order As with many things, there are techniques and subtleties that can affect what happens. For example, you can bypass the search of

IEFSSREQ

2023-07-20 Thread Joseph Reichman
I looked at description of IEFSSREQ Didnt see if it can be used in SRB mode However I saw SSI function code 15 can be called in SRB mode that leads me to believe that there is no restriction on using the macro in SRB Mode

Re: Will z/OS be obsolete in 5 years?

2023-07-20 Thread Leonard D Woren
Jon Perryman wrote on 7/19/2023 8:00 PM: Sysplex is the ability to tightly couple up to 32 z16 boxes. I know what Sysplex is, and it is decades older than z16. Sysplex is a software construct, not hardware, although certain hardware is required to implement it. Sysplex is both software

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Phil Smith III
Tom Marchant asked: >Are you trying to connect to the hardcopy SYSLOG device, if one id defined to >z/OS? Um. Maybe? I'm trying to see things like IEE389I MVS COMMAND PROCESSING AVAILABLE so I know to send VINPUT VMSG V CN(*),ACT >Or do you want to connect as a console terminal? >Or do you

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Steve Thompson
I figure that my VM/XA|ESA knowledge is way behind here. So I'd suggest you contact VM-List. Someone there will tell you how to do this, and may even tell you how to put this in the guest's profile so it automatically gets done as the guest starts, and does the IPL, etc. Probably Alan. Steve

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Tom Marchant
Are you trying to connect to the hardcopy SYSLOG device, if one id defined to z/OS? Or do you want to connect as a console terminal? Or do you want to see what would go to the console on the HMC? Or something else? What do you get if you issue D C from an operator console on MVS? -- Tom

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Rick Troth
On 7/20/23 14:57, Phil Smith III wrote: Shmuel wrote: Define a 3270 address that you can DIAL into; don't forget to use RESET rather than DETACH when you're done. Yeah, that's not the answer, alas-if I wanted a 3270 session, I would just log onto the guest. What I've seen before is that the

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Rick Troth
On 7/20/23 14:57, Phil Smith III wrote: Shmuel wrote: Define a 3270 address that you can DIAL into; don't forget to use RESET rather than DETACH when you're done. Yeah, that's not the answer, alas-if I wanted a 3270 session, I would just log onto the guest. What I've seen before is that the

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Phil Smith III
Shmuel wrote: >Define a 3270 address that you can DIAL into; don't forget to use >RESET rather than DETACH when you're done. Yeah, that's not the answer, alas-if I wanted a 3270 session, I would just log onto the guest. What I've seen before is that the SECUSER sees all the z/OS SYSLOG traffic,

Re: Will z/OS be obsolete in 5 years?

2023-07-20 Thread Tom Marchant
You have just convinced me that your posts are not worth reading. On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 03:00:38 +, Jon Perryman wrote: > >>How could you not find official references when so many people are > >>infuriated. > >> How dare I fail to read everything that you do! > >> If this was a Linux list

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
Define a 3270 address that you can DIAL into; don't forget to use RESET rather than DETACH when you're done. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Phil Smith III Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 12:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Rick Troth
Have you tried configuring z/OS to use the linemode console? Been so long that I'm forgetting what it's called. (Something Alan Altmark would know!) It's the thing which talks to the VINPUT (VMSG/PVMSG) interface. I think it's functionally similar to SYSASCII (but EBCDIC, duh). We're NOT

Ignorant z/OS question

2023-07-20 Thread Phil Smith III
When I start our z/OS system (under VM), my startup EXEC issues 'CP TERMINAL CONMODE 3270' '15'X 'CP IPL' sysres 'LOADPARM' loadaddr||loadparm .which works fine, z/OS IPLs. But I have to log on to see what's going on-the console traffic doesn't come across a SECUSER

Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch

2023-07-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
The only safe way to run AC(1) code from an unauthorized program is via TSO services that leave the unauthorized code nondispatchable for the duration. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Michael Stein Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 10:02

Re: Will z/OS be obsolete in 5 years?

2023-07-20 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/20/2023 6:20 AM, John Abell wrote: Like the prediction in 1970 or so that COBOL would be obsolete I worked for a major SoCal bank from 1982-1986. The programmers there used to say COBOL stood for "Completely Obsolete Business-Oriented Language!" Man, were they wrong! -- Phoenix

Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch

2023-07-20 Thread Michael Stein
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 02:26:39AM -0500, Willy Jensen wrote: > I for one would be sorry to see the STEPLIB program from CBT file 452 go > away. I find it very useful for packaging applications in separate set of > libraries and then use ISPF LIBDEFs, TSO ALTLIB and the STEPLIB program > to make

Re: Will z/OS be obsolete in 5 years?

2023-07-20 Thread John Abell
Like the prediction in 1970 or so that COBOL would be obsolete. John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International

Re: Will z/OS be obsolete in 5 years?

2023-07-20 Thread Roger W Suhr
Re: Will z/OS be obsolete in 5 years? That's what they said in 1995! Please let me know if you have any questions, or concerns! Thank You! Roger W Suhr suhr...@gmail.com 563-581-9065 (from my personal laptop) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon

Re: Problem running GIMUNZIP job.

2023-07-20 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential TSO BPXMTEXT E329 will ive you some answers and possible corrections -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 2:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Problem running GIMUNZIP

Re: Problem running GIMUNZIP job.

2023-07-20 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
I think it's related. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Andrew Rowley Sent: יום ה 20 יולי 2023 14:05 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Problem running GIMUNZIP job. Maybe this problem?

Re: Problem running GIMUNZIP job.

2023-07-20 Thread Andrew Rowley
Maybe this problem? https://community.rocketsoftware.com/discussion/miniconda-conflicts-with-bpxbatch On 20/07/2023 8:10 pm, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: Hi, I managed to find the problem. My user was running a different shell which was causing the problem. Once I reverted back to /bin/sh, everything

Re: Problem running GIMUNZIP job.

2023-07-20 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi, I managed to find the problem. My user was running a different shell which was causing the problem. Once I reverted back to /bin/sh, everything started working. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Colin Paice Sent: יום ה 20 יולי 2023 11:35 To:

Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch (job library search & JSTCB)

2023-07-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:15:10 -0700 Michael Stein wrote: :>* C. IF THE DCB OPERAND WAS OMITTED IN THE MACRO :>* INSTRUCTION, THE JOB LIBRARIES FOR ASCENDING :>* ORIGINATING TCB'S (IF JOB LIBS EXIST) ARE SEARCHED :>* UNTIL THE

Re: Problem running GIMUNZIP job.

2023-07-20 Thread Colin Paice
I do not see //SYSOUT or //SYSPRINT in your JCL... try adding them. //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* etc You might try adding ECHO 'BLAH' to the script so you know something will be displayed Colin On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 08:46, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > Hi, > We are in the process of installing z/OS v2.5

Problem running GIMUNZIP job.

2023-07-20 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi, We are in the process of installing z/OS v2.5 from z/OSMF. One of the first jobs uses GIMUNZIP to create the new z/OS libraries. When the job got to the SMPPTS library, we got these messages: GIM43501S ** THE CALL TO THE BPX1WRT SERVICE FAILED WHEN PROCESSING

Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch

2023-07-20 Thread Willy Jensen
I for one would be sorry to see the STEPLIB program from CBT file 452 go away. I find it very useful for packaging applications in separate set of libraries and then use ISPF LIBDEFs, TSO ALTLIB and the STEPLIB program to make the neccessary allocations. Sadly ISPLLIB has severe limitations and