Mike Schwab said:
*One thong that helps ImMS is that everything related to a root key
isstored together, where as DB2 each segment is a separate database.*
Thinging the wrong thong methinks.
For starters, a DB2 database can have many tables/tablespaces. From a
physical POV an IMS DB can be a
I believe that many Chinese banks ran mainframe but were limited to DOS/VSE
not MVS due to technology embargoes.
I also heard that huge numbers were running bootleg versions, including
Hercules.
When I worked in Indonesia, the company I worked at (A state enterprise)
ran lots of unlicensed
Dear Max,
Thank you very much for your effort and help to provide me with a complete
solution for my problem using SORT. That is exactly what I needed. I appreciate
your expertise and generosity in sharing your sample JCL. It was very helpful
and clear. I will use it as a reference and tailor
Hi Jon,
A SPECIAL (in the directory) can also be DETACHd.
Regards,
David
On 2023-07-27 20:51, Jon Perryman wrote:
> On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 04:03:52 PM PDT, David Spiegel wrote:
You said: "...Detaching a "console" requires a "DEFINE CONSOLE" ..."
AFAIK, (since VM R6.0) this statement
Dear Kevin,
Thank you very much for your time and effort to help me find useful tools for
log analysis. I appreciate your detailed and informative response. I will try
each of the tools you suggested and see which one works best for me.
By the way, I have a question about IBM Z Operational Log
Jon Perryman wrote:
>Can you explain why this is false or how I have this wrong? Steve said
>device but he really meant to say virtual device. The antonym of
>ATTACH is DETACH but strangely DETACH has many antonyms (e.g. ATTACH,
>DEFINE CONSOLE, DEFINE GRAF, ...). If you detach a console, then the
> On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 04:03:52 PM PDT, David Spiegel wrote:
> You said: "...Detaching a "console" requires a "DEFINE CONSOLE" ..."
> AFAIK, (since VM R6.0) this statement has never been true.
Hi David,
Can you explain why this is false or how I have this wrong? Steve said device
but
> On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 03:22:06 AM PDT, Seymour J Metz
> wrote:
> I take it that you can't read. "I would have expected" is not a claim of fact.
Your many expectations are too often silly wild ass guesses. More than once in
this thread alone, you've spewed absolute non-sense that
Worst job: the poor guy who had to put the wee IBM badges on the owls!
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David is, of course, correct that DETACH doesn't require a DEFINE. I think Jon
meant they were the opposites for the virtual console, rather than
DETACH/ATTACH.
If you want, say, a real tape drive attached to your virtual machine (remember
tape drives?), you (or more likely an operator or
Jon Perryman wrote:
>"detach" is a generic command that eliminates a virtual address
>regardless of how the virtual address was defined. "attach" is for
>attaching real VM addresses to a user at a virtual address. Detaching
>a "console" requires a "DEFINE CONSOLE". Detaching a "GRAF" requires a
Hi Jon,
You said: "...Detaching a "console" requires a "DEFINE CONSOLE" ..."
AFAIK, (since VM R6.0) this statement has never been true.
Regards,
David
On 2023-07-26 23:37, Jon Perryman wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 07:14:21 PM PDT, Steve Horein
wrote:
Just out of curiosity, is
If you no longer have any tape libraries in your environment and don't use OAM
for other reasons, then it should be safe to shut it down.
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Erika Dawson wrote:
>When the OAM address space initializes we get the list of libraries
>that are "connected" to the system from the active SMS SCDS. Based on
>that list we try and obtain information about the library resulting in
>the error messages being displayed. Since the libraries no longer
W dniu 27.07.2023 o 21:30, Wendell Lovewell pisze:
Hi Bill.
I can confirm that in a format-3 record with all 13 slots filled, the DS3PTRDS field
points to the CCHHR of the next format-3. And the "next" slot in the format-9
record then points to the next format-3.
I tried to confirm that
I would rephrase the question.
We know the 95 of top 100 banks are using mainframes. The same for
airlines, retailers, etc.
Numbers presented may differ slightly, but it doesn't matter.
The question is: WHAT ABOUT THE REST???
I would like to know in details the remaining 5 cases.
BTW: In
https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/andrii-vasylchenko1/2019/02/20/cmb-zosmf-makes-ibm-mainframe-more-open-and-modern
LinkedIn, Twitter, Meta have no presence in China.
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On Thursday, July 27, 2023, 4:10 PM, Itschak Mugzach
Many other roles at these banks are still on linkedin. Why are only
mainframe profs removed from linkedin ;-) ?
*| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere
Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux
and IBM I **| *
*|* *Email**:
tx, Tom
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Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux
and IBM I **| *
*|* *Email**: i_mugz...@securiteam.co.il **|* *Mob**: +972 522 986404 **|*
*Skype**: ItschakMugzach **|* *Web**:
Unfortunately, by 2021, LinkedIn shut down its flagship networking service in
China. When the Microsoft-owned networking platform cited compliance issues and
a “significantly more challenging operating environment,” it wasn’t surprising.
Chinese banks still use mainframes.
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I don't know, I just responded to modify the subject line a bit.
On 7/27/2023 12:50 PM, ITschak Mugzach wrote:
Five out of ten top banks in the world are from China. I believe their
number of accounts is huge as there are almost 1.5 billion citizens in
china.
I looked at linkedin and none of
Five out of ten top banks in the world are from China. I believe their
number of accounts is huge as there are almost 1.5 billion citizens in
china.
I looked at linkedin and none of them runs on mainframe no z/os programmers
of any kind: developers sysprogs, DBAs, etc.).
How do they run such a big
Hi Bill.
I can confirm that in a format-3 record with all 13 slots filled, the DS3PTRDS
field points to the CCHHR of the next format-3. And the "next" slot in the
format-9 record then points to the next format-3.
I tried to confirm that there will be a second format-9 record for a file with
>> Does anybody have a recent copy of their JCL to download the Tape Tools? We
>> asked the mainframe provider.
Richard,
Try this ( don’t forget to change the your.emailid in the INPUT dd sysin)
//FTP EXEC PGM=FTP,
//PARM='PUBLIC.DHE.IBM.COM (EXIT'
//OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=*
I meant IBM doesn't have a solution for mod_mvsds using modern authentication.
Or so I was told.
I don't remember what the deal was with NFS when I asked about it 3 years ago.
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Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Thursday, July 27,
I think we had two 3279-3B’s in our branch. The rest were 3278’s.
Recall IBM had gone to PROFS-based email at that point (mid 1980’s) so
terminals were something everybody in the branch needed.
Cheers, Martin
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Maynard
Date: Thursday, 27
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 17:18:57 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote:
>z/OS MVS team doesn't want to install NFS.
>
Why?
>Here's another problem: We used to be able to view MVS data sets and members
>using the IBM web server. I think this is mod_mvsds?
>
Read/Write?
>Anyway, this only works with basic
It has been a while since I downloaded IBM's Tape Tools. Using the instructions
I got from our mainframe provider
does not work. The instructions assume a non AT-TLS FTP connection. Yet, when I
run the provided FTP script,
from both a batch job and TSO READ mode, I get
550 SSL/TLS required on
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 11:58:42 -0500, Steve Beaver wrote:
>Back in the 1990's I attended several classes at IBMon Diagonal
>Highway.
>Well back then the property was overrun by prairie dogs. And IBM boulder
>Could not get the permits to poison them out of existence.
>
>Some really smart guy
Also not installed.
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What about z/OSMF?
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Schmitt, Michael
Date: Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 1:19 PM
To:
Found it. The tool that should do what you want, with a bit of figuring out
the syntax of the JCL, is
https://github.com/IBM/IBM-Z-zOS/tree/main/zOS-Tools-and-Toys/msglg610. Among
other things, given a syslog, it will print out the number of times each
message ID appears in the syslog.
Note
z/OS MVS team doesn't want to install NFS.
Here's another problem: We used to be able to view MVS data sets and members
using the IBM web server. I think this is mod_mvsds?
Anyway, this only works with basic authentication. But basic authentication has
been removed from the web browsers for
Funny how great nature is at keeping a balance. Except humans.
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On Thursday, July 27, 2023, 12:58 PM, Steve Beaver
wrote:
Back in the 1990's I attended several classes at IBM on Diagonal
Highway.
Well back then the property was overrun by
Back in the 1990's I attended several classes at IBMon Diagonal
Highway.
Well back then the property was overrun by prairie dogs. And IBM boulder
Could not get the permits to poison them out of existence.
Some really smart guy to bring in maybe 2 dozen Barn Owle's and them
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 16:27:23 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote:
>...
>And, WinSCP makes incorrect assumptions about what data looks like coming back
>from listing PDS libraries. For example, you can not use WinSCP to download a
>member of a PDS that does not have ISPF statistics.
>
How much of
I tested it extensively and hit too many issues with the MVS side. I worked
with the developer, who tried to fix them, but ultimately he gave up.
For example, CD to a subfolder and then enter CD 'node'.
And the more you CD the worse it gets, because WinSCP keeps a cache of past
directories.
I don't have the spare time to run tests proving things but there is absolutely
no doubt in my mind that I have used it successfully in passive mode, running
against the IBM Dallas datacenter z/OS.
CM
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 15:39:57 +, Schmitt, Michael
wrote:
>Thanks for the MOVEit Freely
Hi, Jason. If all you’re looking to do is summarize log data, I can give you
some options, at least.
There was/is a tool that Kevin Kelley, since retired, wrote to help clients do
log analysis that would do exactly what you want, on platform, in batch; I’m
trying to find it again. It was
When I got into systems work in 1982, I was at an engineering shop. All of
the terminals were 3278-2s aside from a few leftover 3277-2s. There was
exactly one 3279-S3G, in the general manager's office so he could do GDDM
charts.
On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 11:02 AM Colin Paice wrote:
> In the days
In the days when 3270-2 was the best available, and 3279s with colour were
just announced, a team from a bank came round to see these new machines.
One of the executives asked "why do we need colour?" The reply from a
quick thinking developer was "so you can display overdrawn accounts in
red!" -
Hi Michael,
Try winscp.com command interface.
Works like a charm with MVS dataset.
Ciao,
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Thanks for the MOVEit Freely suggestion, but it doesn't actually work in
passive mode with our z/OS communications server.
MOVEit Freely is sending command PASV. The server returns:
227 Entering Passive Mode (128,212,110,33,238,85)
Which results in a MOVEit error: Invalid response to PASV.
? By the time the 370/148 came out 3270s were old hat.
3270-1? Did you mean 3277-1? I never saw one in the flesh, and it was way to
small.
OS/VS1 did have some things that MVS did not
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 17:50:40 -0500, Wendell Lovewell wrote:
>Thanks Bill, that's very helpful.
>
>Please let me see if I have this straight yet:
>
>- If there is a format-8 DSCB, there will be a format-9 DSCB.
>
>- If there are > 3 extents (which are handled by the format-1) but < 133
>extents,
When the OAM address space initializes we get the list of libraries that are
"connected" to the system from the active SMS SCDS. Based on that list we try
and obtain information about the library resulting in the error messages being
displayed. Since the libraries no longer exist, you can
Long ago and far away I helped an IBM customer set up his new 148 VS1
machine to use CICS. At that time it had the macro interface, but as an
assembly programmer that was good for me. 3270s were very new at the time
and controlling the screen appearance was important. The customer was an
Electric
>> Can dfsort delete the last word if the first position is M and the last word
>> is a number?
Jason,
Quite simple, you need to show me an example, the length of the last word and
the DCB properties of the input file and I can show you how to do it.
Thanks,
Kolusu
DFSORT Development
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Jason,
for you first question I could say experience.
All my customer sites have different "hot messages" to look at.
Others are only warning, others (the most of) are simply ignored.
I cannot simply share them.
I could give you some "generic hints" like:
- JES Spool over x% then add a spool
Thank you
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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 01:22, david rintoul wrote:
>
> Hi,
> They are all 4k.
> Yes i have to move my head.
> Its largely historical - I started with a 43". then 1x43" with 2x27" in
> portrait mode.
> And now 2x43" and
Dear Max
I am writing to you regarding two questions that I have.
The first question is about how to monitor and alert the system issues. We can
monitor most of the issues and send alerts to our phones. However, when we
cannot provide a complete list of msgids to the monitoring system, some
Thanks. I think what I have is correct, its just looks different now, because
a plain hometest, shows loopback first, but if you NETSTAT HOME under FLG is my
primary INTERFACE.
Ms Terri E Shaffer
Senior Systems Engineer,
z/OS Support:
ACIWorldwide - Telecommuter
H(412-766-2697) C(412-519-2592)
z/OS uses a DIAG to communicate with the HMC; this is true even when running on
a bare LPAR. I'm not aware of any publicly available documentation.
Do you have a CONSOLE with DEVNUM(HMCS) or DEVNUM(SYSCONS)?
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Jason,
as usually, it depends.
About Operlog analysis, it depends on the response-time you need.
At different customer sites I use automation product (BMC, IBM, Broadcom)
in order to catch specific messages and react asap with specific actions or
simply sending SMS/Mail.
Some others use external
The problem was solved using Firewall definitions.
Apparently not all people who work on firewall are created equal.
Gadi
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Subject: Re: Network
Gadi,
I was not sure of the problem, and where the specific started task comes in.
Can you ping the RHEL server from z/OS?
If the ping fails it could be due to two reasons
1. z/OS does not know about the RHEL address
2. The ping request got to RHEL, but RHEL does not know the route to get
back
Hi,
Our z/OS system has a physical ip address and a VIPA address.
We set TCPSTACKSOURCEVIPA so that the origin address is always the VIPA address.
We have a new server that is in the same network as the z/OS system's physical
address. We need to send information from z/OS to this server.
Since
Terri,
The HOME is only used for DEVICE/LINK. You specify the "home address-es"
on the interface.
For example
INTERFACE IFPORTCP6
DEFINE IPAQENET6
CHPIDTYPE OSD
PORTNAME PORTA
INTFID 2:2:2:2
* IPADDR FC00:2::2:2:2 *
INTERFACE IFPORTCP6
ADDADDR 2001:DB8::9
The doc also says
Dear Massimo and Kolusu,
Thank you for your help. I got the results I wanted. The results are as follows.
MSGID NUMREC
$HASP000 20
$HASP001 10
..
>DISTINCT COUNT: 530
I also appreciate Kevin McKenzie's reply.
Hi,
They are all 4k.
Yes i have to move my head.
Its largely historical - I started with a 43". then 1x43" with 2x27" in
portrait mode.
And now 2x43" and 2x27". all 4k.
The 27"'s have stuff that doesn't change much, that you have to glance at
occasionally (so a couple of Z/OS consoles).
The main
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