Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

70% of US GDP is in blue counties. Or is a single wide good enough for you?  https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/10/election-2020-democrats-republicans-economy.html https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/latest-updates-biden-trump-election-2020/card/32vHNFTTc2xxNr7NITHY I was in SF just a few years ago. It

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

Not a gay hater...never said anything of the sort but hey nice diversioneverything you said, beautiful city...high paying jobsWAS..Place smells like sewage based on the shit people take in the sidewalk and street. Hard to walk down the sidewalk step over/around the

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

lol, gay hater huh. I’ve been to SF. It’s a beautiful city. And jobs there are high paying. Maybe you’d prefer the states that always rate near the bottom in education, health care, GDP. Mostly Republican states. 70% of US GDP is in Democratic counties.

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I worked for 15 years for a health insurance company. I’ve seen how & why US healthcare rates poorly. The ultimate goal of healthcare insurance companies is to take in premium and pay out as little as possible in claims. Health isn’t even a consideration. Profits are. Sent from Yahoo Mail for

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

Why don't you go move to the Utopia that you and your ilk created in San Francisco ?? Instead of spreading your disease somewhere else.. Thanks, Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 8:43 PM To:

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France is 16th in life expectancy. US 47th. Germany 31st. Capitalism is a failure for health and life expectancy.  https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/ Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, August 8, 2023, 9:31 PM, Jon Perryman wrote: > On Tuesday, August 8,

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> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 05:43:51 PM PDT, Bill Johnson wrote: > Health care, US is rated 30th. France 1st. Germany 6th. > Infant mortality. US is rated 50th. > The US health care system is number 1 in one thing, cost. Sucking down 18% of > GDP.  So France being first in healthcare

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> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:29:10 AM PDT, Bill Johnson wrote: > I never drove in the UK. Perhaps fearful of driving on the left side.  I've found that driving in the UK has never been a problem. The problem comes on the first day back in Germany when I'm s**ting my pants on the autobahn

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Health care, US is rated 30th. France 1st. Germany 6th. Infant mortality. US is rated 50th. The US health care system is number 1 in one thing, cost. Sucking down 18% of GDP.  https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/best-healthcare-in-the-world/ No doubt you’ll bash the World Health

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> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 07:38:32 AM PDT, Bill Johnson wrote: > You’re right, Europe is different. They actually care about people over > profits.  > Much better infrastructure, better health care, and better quality of lives.  What world do you live in? For Germany, I will give you

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

> In Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 07:29:42 AM PDT, Bill Johnson  wrote: > Never once did wind cause an issue. Yeah, it happens, but not frequently. And > American roads are  > way more dangerous than European roads. The data (facts) are clear. I suspect heavy loads are better when it's windy.

Re: DD SYSOUT=(,),DSN=?

> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 03:11:40 PM PDT, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > Shouldn't this be explained earlier, such as in  > "Relationship to other parameters", not only in an Example? You missed the tree for the forest. Its discussed in the section you mentioned but labeled "Naming a Sysout

Re: DD SYSOUT=(,),DSN=?

On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 16:04:48 -0500, Doug Henry wrote: >... > For sysout datasets the first level is the Userid of the Job not the jobname. > Thanks. So the user ID is available. Is it possible to code so that a JCL symbol or a PRO symbol becomes the last qualifier? And, I see in

Re: DD SYSOUT=(,),DSN=?

On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 20:44:34 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >I can’t see a way to do what you are asking for at all. The usual temporary >DSN generation includes the JOB name, not the USER name. If your shop >enforces JOB name must be USER name plus one character, then your userid will >be in

Re: DD SYSOUT=(,),DSN=?

Won’t that syntax generate DSN=MYNAME (where MYNAME is your userid, or at least the value of the USER= parameter of the JOB card), not a “temporary” name? AFAIK doubling the ampersands won’t keep the value of “”, it will just make the temporary name have the actual value “SYSUID” in it. I

DD SYSOUT=(,),DSN=?

How should the user code DD SYSOUT=(,),DSN= in order that the last qualifier of the system-generated name for the sysout data set be the user ID under whose authority the job runs? How many ampersands? How many apostrophes? Is it even possible? -- gil

Re: z/OS performance question

Take a look at RMF Monitor III reports taken during intervals of TSO activity. What is the performance index for your TSO service class periods? What are the delay percentages for your TSO users' address spaces? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of

Re: Will z/OS be obsolete in 5 years?

With the new flash drives there are no more SPINNING parts. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Phil Smith III Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 2:18:14 PM

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

No, I wasn’t including the UK. I’ve been to England twice, Ireland, Northern Ireland, & Scotland. I never drove in the UK. Perhaps fearful of driving on the left side. I took tours via bus or van, (Bath, Stonehenge) and rail to Windsor. Tours (bus, rail, van, car) in Scotland, Ireland, &

Re: Will z/OS be obsolete in 5 years?

Colin Paice wrote: >These days disks are virtualized. I think the unit is the track. Two >"adjacent" tracks from a data set perspective could be on different PC >sized disks in the disk subsystem. The "disks" are usually irrelevant >as the data is usually in cache! This gets humorous at

Re: IBM quarterly sales.

Tom Brennan wrote: >LOL - As a tech person, I'll never fully understand why it makes such a >big difference to sales folks that a machine is purchased by say, June >30, and the old z13 has to be back at IBM 60 days later. But I don't >have to live with them :) :) Well, they may not get full

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

On Tue, 8 Aug 2023, at 14:07, Bill Johnson wrote: > I’ve driven roads in Europe. Which definition of Europe are you using? That is, are you including the uK (recently in the EU but no longer)? >Every truck is in the right most lane, unless they are passing which >isn’t common. Isn't it? Do

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And yet you respond to the off topic threads. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, August 8, 2023, 12:26 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Bill, AFAIK, this forum is not for discussing US politics. If it were, I would retort. Regards, David

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lol no doubt a MAGA. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, August 8, 2023, 12:33 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, +3 ... for Canada's PM. Regards, David On 2023-08-08 11:18, Seymour J Metz wrote: > It was obvious in 2016,

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Blazing Saddles is right up your alley. Is the fart sequence your fav? I’ve looked into leaving. If trump is reelected, I’ve got a number of options. I’m only 2 hours from Toronto. They’ve got better health care. Affordable pharmaceuticals. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, August

Re: What's the fastest way to clear a register? Was: Trucks and Politics

Perhaps it didn't register? Bill Hitefield Dino-Software Corporation 800.480.DINO www.dino-software.com > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Tom Brennan > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2023 11:18 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: What's

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

Hi Bill, Here is a quote from Blazing Saddles: "Lozim Geiyen". If you're so enthralled with Europe why not just leave already and stop torturing yourself in this deplorable continent? Regards, David On 2023-08-08 10:38, Bill Johnson wrote: You’re right, Europe is different. They actually

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Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, +3 ... for Canada's PM. Regards, David On 2023-08-08 11:18, Seymour J Metz wrote: It was obvious in 2016, but we don't have a monopoly on electing bad leaders. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

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Hi Bill, AFAIK, this forum is not for discussing US politics. If it were, I would retort. Regards, David On 2023-08-08 10:48, Bill Johnson wrote: I have many times. And heading to Spain in October. Funny story, we went to Switzerland right after trump got elected. Many people asked us WTF are

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

Please take the political crap elsewhere. Doug Fuerst -- Original Message -- From "ITschak Mugzach" To IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date 8/8/2023 11:54:29 AM Subject Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems Tell me about it, Shmuel ...  ITschak בתאריך

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

Tell me about it, Shmuel ...  ITschak בתאריך יום ג׳, 8 באוג׳ 2023 ב-18:19 מאת Seymour J Metz : > It was obvious in 2016, but we don't have a monopoly on electing bad > leaders. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > >

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It was obvious in 2016, but we don't have a monopoly on electing bad leaders. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bill Johnson

Re: What's the fastest way to clear a register? Was: Trucks and Politics

It was a joke to help get us off the Truck topic. It didn't work. On 8/8/2023 5:30 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: Well, SLR, SR and XR have less of a I-cache hit then the others. What about, e.g., SGR, SLGR, XFR? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: IBM quarterly sales.

LOL - As a tech person, I'll never fully understand why it makes such a big difference to sales folks that a machine is purchased by say, June 30, and the old z13 has to be back at IBM 60 days later. But I don't have to live with them :) :) On 8/8/2023 6:43 AM, Phil Smith III wrote:

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

ibm-main is really terrific. Where else can you go to discuss current technologies but get so much deep expertise in both computer history and transportation policy. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies PS> Beware of "Post hoc, ergo propter hoc" On Tue, Aug 8, 2023, at 9:38 AM, Bill Johnson

z/OS 3.1 Announcement - Helpful links

The z/OS 3.1 GA Announcement is available for your reading pleasure! https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/announcements/zos-31-availability Some significant points to note: - Planned availability date is September 29, 2023. Since this is a new z/OS version, there is a new program number,

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I have many times. And heading to Spain in October. Funny story, we went to Switzerland right after trump got elected. Many people asked us WTF are Americans thinking electing him. After numerous indictments, lies, and his utter stupidity, now we know why they asked that. Sent from Yahoo Mail

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If you want Europe, you know where to find it. On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 9:38 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > You’re right, Europe is different. They actually care about people over > profits. Much better infrastructure, better health care, and better

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You’re right, Europe is different. They actually care about people over profits. Much better infrastructure, better health care, and better quality of lives.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, August 8, 2023, 10:34 AM, Jay Maynard wrote: In case you haven't noticed, the US is

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They aren’t opinions, learn the difference. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, August 8, 2023, 10:34 AM, Jay Maynard wrote: In case you haven't noticed, the US is much, much different from Europe, in many ways big and little that bear on this discussion. But, in typical Bill

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

In case you haven't noticed, the US is much, much different from Europe, in many ways big and little that bear on this discussion. But, in typical Bill Johnson fashion, he's convinced he's right and will defend his opinions, well-informed or not, to the death. On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 9:29 AM Bill

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Lol, you should have followed your own advice. My dad drove truck his whole life. Never once did wind cause an issue. Yeah, it happens, but not frequently. And American roads are way more dangerous than European roads. The data (facts) are clear. So profit over lives is a Republican choice.

z/OS 3.1 Educational materials

Just found this – gotta LOVE IBM for doing this For z/OS 3.1 https://github.com/IBM/IBM-Z-zOS/tree/main/zOS-Education/zOS-3.1-Education For z/OS 2.1 to 2.5 (including 3.1) start here https://github.com/IBM/IBM-Z-zOS/tree/main/zOS-Education Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website:

Re: IBM quarterly sales.

Been at IBM and Amdahl for two. And yeah, I know how that last QTR gets loaded. And what you said didn't come across to me as being snide at all. What is worse is the use it or lose it thing is vacation. It would seem to me that these companies would divide their employees by the x digit of

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

I've driven in Germany, Austria and Switzerland and some island countries. And I held, for over 15 years a CDL-A with Multi and Tanker endorsements. I did not drive LKW (semis) anywhere but within the USofA. And a box truck once into Canada. Stick to what you know, not what what the Huffy

Re: What's the fastest way to clear a register? Was: Trucks and Politics

For Pete's sake, Tom was poking the bear for our amusement. And it's amusing to see who is willing to get back to beating on this old dead horse. sas On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 8:31 AM Seymour J Metz wrote: > Well, SLR, SR and XR have less of a I-cache hit then the others. What > about, e.g.,

Re: Automount (was USS Features)

zfsadm shrink is faster and less disruptive. Nevertheless, shrinking is not automatic like growing is (can be). The fact that one can compress, decompress, encrypt, decrypt, grow, or shrink zfs files in-place and in-use implies to me that the zfs developers are pretty sharp. sas On Tue, Aug 8,

Re: IBM quarterly sales.

IBM's fiscal year is Jan-Dec. Between "use it or lose it" and sales reps trying to make quota, nobody should be surprised by Q4 load. Sorry, that sounds snide-I didn't mean it that way! Just sayin', the Jan-Dec thing adds to it. ...phsiii (who married top sales rep at his first vendor

Re: Automount (was USS Features)

If a user greatly reduces their file usage, you can create a new home directory, copy the remaining files over, and release the old directory. If it's a separate z/OS file system, you get the space back. On Tue, Aug 8, 2023, 07:11 Jack Zukt wrote: > As someone pointed out, it is only one more

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

I’ve driven roads in Europe. Every truck is in the right most lane, unless they are passing which isn’t common. It’s nothing like the US trucking which is designed for large trucks and fast speeds. That’s exactly why the carnage on US highways from trucks is way higher. And wind as an excuse is

Re: What's the fastest way to clear a register? Was: Trucks and Politics

Well, SLR, SR and XR have less of a I-cache hit then the others. What about, e.g., SGR, SLGR, XFR? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Attila Fogarasi

Re: Automount (was USS Features)

As someone pointed out, it is only one more user file and I suppose that you no not manage your space by restricting the number of user files. As it has also been noticed, it can, and will be HSM migrated. And when you delete a RACF userid the zfs file goes with all the others, there is no USS

Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe

Wow $2.9 billion global mainframe market ... that's almost 3% of the US federal government IT budget excluding Defence in 2022 ($74 billion). Gartner forecasts global IT spend in 2023 of $4700 billion (yes, just under $5 trillion). Maybe mainframe will reach 0.1% of that. Of course mainframe is

Re: IBM quarterly sales.

Spend it or lose it? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Mike Schwab [mike.a.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 12:49 AM To:

Re: Channelized I/O WAS: Mainframe Makers.... WAS: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

> On 7 Aug 2023, at 2:46 pm, Timothy Sipples wrote: > > David Crayford wrote: >> Maybe wait until there is actually some tangible AI libraries such as >> TensorFlow, PyTorch and SnapML before blowing trumpets. > > Huh? You *can* run these libraries on z/OS, on zIIPs even. They run on the >

Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

On Tue, 8 Aug 2023, at 01:56, Bill Johnson wrote: > In Europe all the trucks go the same speed. Rubbish. Age of truck and how heavy its load is are certainly factors. An unloaded truck, is a lot more susceptible to high winds so might be driven slower in those conditions; trucks with no load