Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-17 Thread Bill Johnson
ny closer > to identifying my ethnicity than saying that You're Buddhist or Christian. > > ____ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 1

Re: Will AI free Bill Johnson? (was AI will surpass human intelligence!)

2023-09-17 Thread Bill Johnson
could send it to Germany, I would be happy. Of course, I would pay you the needed transfer costs. For exchanging contact information, please send me an offline mail. Thanks. BTW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kudlick Am 17.09.2023 um 17:04 schrieb Bill Johnson: > Good news, wh

Re: Will AI free Bill Johnson? (was AI will surpass human intelligence!)

2023-09-17 Thread Bill Johnson
it to Germany, I would be happy. Of course, I would pay you the needed transfer costs. For exchanging contact information, please send me an offline mail. Thanks. BTW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kudlick Am 17.09.2023 um 17:04 schrieb Bill Johnson: > Good news, while cleaning out

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-17 Thread Bill Johnson
Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 12:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: AI will surpass human intelligence! I already told you, you’re Jewish. Just like most people can tell I’m S

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-17 Thread Bill Johnson
? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 12:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: AI will surpass human intelligence! You should read some history of the Jewish ghettos of Europe

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-17 Thread Bill Johnson
during the day. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, September 17, 2023, 11:50 AM, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: I’ll guarantee you’re Jewish. There aren’t many Irish kids with the first name  Shmuel. Are you really equating the degree co

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-17 Thread Bill Johnson
I agree with Ray Mullins, Assembler is a niche market and shrinking. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, September 17, 2023, 12:01 PM, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Dying can be slow or fast. Assembler has been dying a slow death for d

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-17 Thread Bill Johnson
rogramming... On 9/17/2023 7:53 AM, Bill Johnson wrote: > Which of my facts aren’t true? Assembler is dying. Confirmed by one of > Assembler’s experts, Ray Mullins. > > With a name like Bill Johnson, I would either be Scandinavian or black most > likely. I’m the former. Swedish mos

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-17 Thread Bill Johnson
estors live in the 19th and 20th centuries? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 10:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: AI will s

Re: Will AI free Bill Johnson? (was AI will surpass human intelligence!)

2023-09-17 Thread Bill Johnson
: > The pack mentality here is amazing. Yeah, a pack of cats. I guess that your super intelligence hasn't picked up on all of the disagreements here that don't involve you. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe

Re: Will AI free Bill Johnson? (was AI will surpass human intelligence!)

2023-09-17 Thread Bill Johnson
n't picked up on all of the disagreements here that don't involve you. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 11:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSE

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-17 Thread Bill Johnson
Which of my facts aren’t true? Assembler is dying. Confirmed by one of Assembler’s experts, Ray Mullins. With a name like Bill Johnson, I would either be Scandinavian or black most likely. I’m the former. Swedish mostly. Are you aware of how Swedes are named? Here’s some context easily found

Re: Will AI free Bill Johnson? (was AI will surpass human intelligence!)

2023-09-16 Thread Bill Johnson
for iPhone On Saturday, September 16, 2023, 11:55 AM, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: The only reason I stay here is for the lachen. But 40+ years of working with dummkopf coworkers like the ones here was quite lucrative and very entertaining. It’s

Re: Will AI free Bill Johnson? (was AI will surpass human intelligence!)

2023-09-16 Thread Bill Johnson
for a long time. I am laughing all the time :-) Am 16.09.2023 um 17:23 schrieb Bill Johnson: > I’m going to laugh when AI replaces many of you assembler deniers. The under > 40 for sure. Maybe the under 50. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Saturday, September 1

Re: Will AI free Bill Johnson? (was AI will surpass human intelligence!)

2023-09-16 Thread Bill Johnson
the provocations now prefers to be silent on this to protect itself from exposure? Does AI have a sense of humour? Am 16.09.2023 um 08:28 schrieb Andrew Wilkinson: > You could be right. > However, my mental image is of the real Bill Johnson gagged and tied to a > chair in his basement > while

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-16 Thread Bill Johnson
on here. > > > Best Regards > > Ituriel do Nascimento Neto > z/OS System Programmer > > > > > > > Em sexta-feira, 15 de setembro de 2023 às 15:34:14 BRT, Bill Johnson > <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> escreveu: > > >

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-16 Thread Bill Johnson
nformation, and not contributing anything. You're excellent at trolling though, which seems to be your sad reason for being. So you're entertaining, in a ghastly sort of way. On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:33:25 +0000, Bill Johnson wrote: >Are you that naive? Ever been to Share? The current makeup of mainfr

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-15 Thread Bill Johnson
you might be a klan member lying about his skin color. Now, statistically, it's likely that most of the US posters calling you out are White, but this is an international list. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <00475

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-15 Thread Bill Johnson
Bill from IBM-MAIN. At 02:26 PM 9/14/2023, Bill Johnson wrote: >It's already passed yours. > > >Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > >On Thursday, September 14, 2023, 3:22 PM, David Spiegel ><0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >Yours in

Re: Free SMPE product to just practice

2023-09-14 Thread Bill Johnson
Best bet is to ask the IBM expert who is the SMP/E manager. Kurt Quackenbush.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 14, 2023, 3:36 PM, Jake Anderson wrote: Hello Good morning Is there any freeware product which can be installed using SMP/e. Any pointers are appreciated

Re: AI plus cybersecurity!

2023-09-14 Thread Bill Johnson
organizations. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 14, 2023, 6:49 PM, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Along with AI, another growing field is IT security. MGM & Caesars got hacked, using LinkedIn, and you guys wonder why I’m not on

AI plus cybersecurity!

2023-09-14 Thread Bill Johnson
Along with AI, another growing field is IT security. MGM & Caesars got hacked, using LinkedIn, and you guys wonder why I’m not on it. Going to cost them 10’s of millions. "All ALPHV ransomware group did to compromise MGM Resorts was hop on LinkedIn, find an employee, then call the Help Desk. A

Re: IBM now advertising their AI.

2023-09-14 Thread Bill Johnson
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IBM now advertising their AI.

2023-09-14 Thread Bill Johnson
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Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-14 Thread Bill Johnson
Anyone who would choose assembler over AI is a complete fool.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 14, 2023, 3:26 PM, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: It’s already passed yours. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, Sep

Re: AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-14 Thread Bill Johnson
It’s already passed yours. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 14, 2023, 3:22 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Yours included? On 2023-09-14 13:29, Bill Johnson wrote: > AI will surpass human intelligence. > > https

AI will surpass human intelligence!

2023-09-14 Thread Bill Johnson
AI will surpass human intelligence. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/14/softbanks-masayoshi-son-says-tech-can-surpass-human-intelligence.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Assembler, was: AI expert hot new position

2023-09-14 Thread Bill Johnson
.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Minsky> agreed, writing, "within a generation ... the problem of creating 'artificial intelligence' will substantially be solved".^[210] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence#cite_note-231> ^ Am 14.09.2023 um 01:37 schrieb Bill

Re: Assembler, was: AI expert hot new position

2023-09-13 Thread Bill Johnson
Prove it. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, September 13, 2023, 10:54 PM, David Crayford wrote: > On 14 Sep 2023, at 10:39 am, Bill Johnson > <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Ray’s words. Cut and pasted from his response t

Re: Assembler, was: AI expert hot new position

2023-09-13 Thread Bill Johnson
.” There is nothing to indicate assembler programming is growing and in fact it is shrinking by approximately 5% a year. AI is going to grow exponentially. For decades. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, September 13, 2023, 9:59 PM, David Crayford wrote: > On 14 Sep 2023, at 9:37 am, Bill John

Re: Assembler, was: AI expert hot new position

2023-09-13 Thread Bill Johnson
Potential positions? Either you have positions or you don’t. Or, you have positions and no applicants. Which once again proves my point. Don’t waste your time learning a dying skill. As stated by Assembler expert Ray Mullins.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, September 13, 2023,

Re: Assembler, was: AI expert hot new position

2023-09-13 Thread Bill Johnson
, 2023, 7:20 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: Just how many decades are there in an inning? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 6:38 PM To: IB

Re: Assembler, was: AI expert hot new position

2023-09-13 Thread Bill Johnson
and men crooked. */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 16:47 A generalist will rarely be unemployed. A specialist will usually make more money but only until the skillset involved begins to decline or is phased

Re: Assembler, was: AI expert hot new position

2023-09-13 Thread Bill Johnson
Michelson in 1903 */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 17:07 AI Specialist Salary Last Updated on: August 14, 2023 The average AI specialist salary in the United States is $165,980 per year, or $79.8

Re: Assembler, was: AI expert hot new position

2023-09-13 Thread Bill Johnson
intelligence specialists are California at $246,143 per year, Oregon at $201,305, and Washington at $193,768. The lowest-paying area is Georgia, with an average salary of $90,068 a year. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, September 13, 2023, 4:47 PM, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dm

Re: Assembler, was: AI expert hot new position

2023-09-13 Thread Bill Johnson
A generalist will rarely be unemployed. A specialist will usually make more money but only until the skillset involved begins to decline or is phased out. Assembler programming has been in decline for decades. >From Dice.com September 2022. There’s a pervasive myth that being able to program

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread Bill Johnson
wrote: Is this contract or perm? Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Sep 12, 2023, at 11:15, Bill Johnson > <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I’ve done upgrades. Numerous times. Of z/OS, DB2, CICS, IMS, MQ, TSS, and a > boatl

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread Bill Johnson
u were a systems programmer and were doing a z/OS upgrade, you would probably have to repair some SMF, JES2 and Security Exits a lot more than "almost never". Regards, David On 2023-09-12 08:56, Bill Johnson wrote: > Making up scenarios that never or almost never happen. > &g

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread Bill Johnson
David so badly wants his dying art to be important because it makes him feel superior. Textbook narcissist. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 8:58 AM, David Crayford wrote: > On 12 Sep 2023, at 8:04 pm, Jon Butler wrote: > > There will be a need for

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread Bill Johnson
Making up scenarios that never or almost never happen.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 8:53 AM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Jon, Now that you've mentioned DB2, please tell me how to write/maintain a DB2 Secondary

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread Bill Johnson
egards, David On 2023-09-12 08:16, Bill Johnson wrote: > “ Not to denigrate assembler programmers, or those that decide to take up > Sanskrit, but it is a dying art.” > > Indeed. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 8:04 AM, Jon Butler

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread Bill Johnson
“ Not to denigrate assembler programmers, or those that decide to take up Sanskrit, but it is a dying art.” Indeed. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 8:04 AM, Jon Butler wrote: There will be a need for assembler programmers for quite a while, but mainly

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread Bill Johnson
d your colleague (Assembler expert) was employed in West Virginia. In this case, you might even earn more than your colleague, due to regional economics (nothing to do with technical ability). Your logic, or lack thereof, gives away your real skill level. Regards, David On 2023-09-11 23:00, Bill J

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-11 Thread Bill Johnson
Some “geniuses” here, at least some self proclaimed ones, think knowing assembler makes them real Systems Programmers. Well, I’ve been getting paid like one for 2 decades. Anyone dumb enough to learn assembler in 2023, which is dying a slow tortuous death, deserves to be replaced by AI. (They

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-10 Thread Bill Johnson
That’s a good article. Also indicates where the future of IT is headed. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, September 10, 2023, 4:37 PM, Bob T Roller <044ef325f6c3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Just go to the CNBC home page. It’s now the third story. Sent from Proton Mail

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

2023-09-08 Thread Bill Johnson
This list is dying just like assembler. Another 5, maybe 10 years, both will be in the dustbin of history. In 10 years, most of the dominant posters will be gone.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, September 8, 2023, 7:44 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: I'd say head them over to

Re: CICS Question

2023-09-08 Thread Bill Johnson
I think Rex is onto something.  Cause Module CEEPLPKA was failing on the BLDL because empty library, PRD2.SCEECICS, was in the LIBDEF search. Resolving The Problem Remove empty Language Environment (LE) library PRD2.SCEECICS from the LIBDEF search and include the PRD2.SCEEBASE at the

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

2023-09-07 Thread Bill Johnson
nard D Woren wrote: Bill Johnson wrote on 9/7/2023 1:05 PM: > We used to use ROSCOE at a small shop in the 80’s because it used less > resources. I hated it. ROSCOE was one of a collection of TSO alternatives, which were all junk.  TONE, ACEP, Wylbur, maybe more that I don't remember.

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

2023-09-07 Thread Bill Johnson
Agree.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 7, 2023, 8:00 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: We used it at a bank because of the number of application developers.  TSO was reserved for system programmers.  Also, it was limited in what you could do with the OS.  made sense for the

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

2023-09-07 Thread Bill Johnson
se it used less resources ..." Shmegegge, you should've said "fewer". That is the correct usage. For a guy who knows so much about about a multitude of topics, it behooves you to write more correctly. It might even increase your credibility. --- On 2023-09-07 16:05, Bill Johnson wrote: > We u

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

2023-09-07 Thread Bill Johnson
orst School Systems<https://wallethub.com/edu/e/states-with-the-best-schools/5335> wallethub.com From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: September 7, 2023 6:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LI

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

2023-09-07 Thread Bill Johnson
rds program ..." Please translate this statement into English. Regards, David From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: September 7, 2023 6:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU S

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

2023-09-07 Thread Bill Johnson
edibility. Regards, David On 2023-09-07 16:05, Bill Johnson wrote: > We used to use ROSCOE at a small shop in the 80’s because it used less > resources. I hated it. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Thursday, September 7, 2023, 3:56 PM, Leonard D Woren > wro

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

2023-09-07 Thread Bill Johnson
" Shmegegge, you should've said "fewer". That is the correct usage. For a guy who knows so much about about a multitude of topics, it behooves you to write more correctly. It might even increase your credibility. Regards, David On 2023-09-07 16:05, Bill Johnson wrote: > We used

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

2023-09-07 Thread Bill Johnson
and the man of respecting other people's rights, each sex, without any obvious unreason, can and does regard the other as radically selfish.  -from The Screwtape Letters by C S Lewis */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Thursday, September

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive - Dumps - Early days

2023-09-07 Thread Bill Johnson
We used to use ROSCOE at a small shop in the 80’s because it used less resources. I hated it. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 7, 2023, 3:56 PM, Leonard D Woren wrote: What was the first OS that you had a 2 MB TSO region?  What hardware. MVT TSO on the 4 MB 360/91 at

Re: There are good bosses and then there are the other kind

2023-09-07 Thread Bill Johnson
Disregard AI at your own peril. OpenAI launches ChatGPT Enterprise, the firm's biggest announcement since ChatGPT. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/28/openai-chatgpt-enterprise-launches.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: There are good bosses and then there are the other kind

2023-09-07 Thread Bill Johnson
Agree completely. What really irked me was bosses who weren’t mainframe literate who thought they had a better grasp of what and how to solve mainframe issues. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 7, 2023, 12:55 PM, Retired Mainframer

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-06 Thread Bill Johnson
Monty the Mustang will be disappointed. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, September 6, 2023, 9:25 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: Sorry Dave but I’m skipping to Bill’s response.  I recently blocked Bill's e-mail and don’t get to see his posts apart from people’s responses.  For

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-06 Thread Bill Johnson
ible processing speed, & ability to put the results into a form the user is requesting. But, there is some logic and machine learning involved. The next decade will be amazing. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, September 6, 2023, 7:31 PM, Leonard D Woren wrote: Bill Johnson wrot

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-06 Thread Bill Johnson
Because throughout over half my career ACF2 was the number 1 security package and RACF only had around 20% of the market. Medical Mutual, my longest time at any one employer used Top Secret. Most people who claim to be knowledgeable about the mainframe, would know ACF2 was the number 1 security

Re: LexisNexis

2023-09-06 Thread Bill Johnson
msterdam and New York. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, September 6, 2023, 12:39 PM, Peter Sylvester wrote: Uk is not US. On 06/09/2023 15:15, Bill Johnson wrote: > Lol, it pays to do thorough research. 1818 it began. > > https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/legal-infor

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-06 Thread Bill Johnson
f guys like the > terrible twenty. I hope that you are including yourself in that. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2023 9:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSER

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-06 Thread Bill Johnson
wards? Since you're the self-proclaimed expert on the relevance of Assembler, please explain how  an installer like yourself would create an ICHRDSNT Exit (with appropriate SMP/e control cards). Regards, David On 2023-09-06 08:11, Bill Johnson wrote: > LOL, good find Dave. I love how in your he

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-06 Thread Bill Johnson
t; books, etc.    In literally every case it came back with the same >>> introductory text and conclusion - but inserted a couple of >>> paragraphs that was similar to a book review for each book and >>> compared the 'differences'.   Not very impressed. >>>

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-06 Thread Bill Johnson
wrote: "LexisNexis is over 200 years old..." Bull. LexisNexis was started by a lawyer in 1956... Joe On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 7:57 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Shocking, LexisNexis is over 200 years old and is designed specifically &

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-06 Thread Bill Johnson
saurs" and "narcissists" (and "idiots", BTW) in this discussions. And that's why I will not answer to any more mails from you from now on. Should have done so earlier, maybe. Bernd Am 06.09.2023 um 14:11 schrieb Bill Johnson: > Everything I said about assembler ha

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-06 Thread Bill Johnson
son uses it to find obscure hypotheses and formulas that would >> otherwise require a great many hours (or days) of searching.   My MS >> son uses it in a similar fashion to ferret out alternative options >> for the various cell growing and protein extraction for his job.   A &g

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-06 Thread Bill Johnson
. Clearly assembler is not long for the mainframe world and just waiting for the grim reaper to arrive. And the dinosaurs here trying so hard to not become extinct. Notice how the 20-30 experts can’t say, Bill Johnson is right. Because it makes them wrong and narcissists don’t like saying they were

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
the same question. So that   cut and paste isn’t a factor.   What are you afraid of? That a computer can do what you do? That your   “skills” aren’t all that impressive and can be automated away? On 9/5/2023 4:47 PM, Bill Johnson wrote: > I never presented it as a working mo

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
computer can do what you do? That your >   “skills” aren’t all that impressive and can be automated away? > > On 9/5/2023 4:47 PM, Bill Johnson wrote: >> I never presented it as a working model. > > -- >

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
ially if I am called an idiot in the very same mail that I am answering to. Kind regards Bernd Am 06.09.2023 um 01:53 schrieb Bill Johnson: > If you consider this respectful, there’s something wrong with you. > > “So your JCL expertise qualifies you as a systems programmer ... t

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
that a specific way to support your arguments? Am 06.09.2023 um 01:31 schrieb Bill Johnson: > I find it stunning the technology people are trying to hang onto the past > (assembler) and bashing the future. (ChatGPT) Or perhaps that

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
quot;, which is the same in German, so I understand that well. Is that a specific way to support your arguments? Am 06.09.2023 um 01:31 schrieb Bill Johnson: > I find it stunning the technology people are trying to hang onto the past > (assembler) and bashing the future. (ChatGPT) Or perhaps

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
to answer repectfully to your mails, almost every answer from you contains the word "idiot" or "idiotic", which is the same in German, so I understand that well. Is that a specific way to support your arguments? Am 06.09.2023 um 01:31 schrieb Bill Johnson: > I find it stunnin

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
I find it stunning the technology people are trying to hang onto the past (assembler) and bashing the future. (ChatGPT) Or perhaps that’s what aging people do. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 7:04 PM, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-r

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
are not interested. Kind regards Bernd Am 05.09.2023 um 18:00 schrieb Bill Johnson: > Why do you doubt it? Is it because you hope it doesn’t? Certainly, one of you > assembler geniuses could test it. > > Like Mullins said, and others mentioned, most companies that run z/OS don’t > need assemb

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
: I offer training classes, Steve Thompson does. If a company really wants ASSEMBLER training, they can find it here. Am 04.09.2023 um 22:35 schrieb Bill Johnson: > I love how many of you downplay others who don’t do what you do. And act like > it’s inferior. Plus, puff yourselves up

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
Bill Johnson: > To claim people who don’t code assembler or read dumps aren’t systems > programmers is idiotic. > > ... > > I learned zero JCL in college. I learned and became an expert at EDS. But, > college gave me the wherewithal to know how

Re: Ray Mullins on Assembler demand.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
I agree with Matt that Ray is the man. Exactly why his response was used. And he is correct that assembler has become a niche product. Which is exactly what I’ve seen for most of my 40+ year career. A slow steady decline. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 1:17

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
ill, I have a better idea. Why don't you and the 2 buddies who helped you modify the IEFUSI fix it? Probably because you don't have the wherewithal (even with 2 helpers). Regards, David On 2023-09-05 12:04, Bill Johnson wrote: > Lol, how about going to chatgpt and asking the same question. So

Re: Ray Mullins on Assembler demand.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
Metal C, exactly what Mullins said is replacing assembler. In the end, my contention in the beginning is proving truer by the day. And you’re right, assembler isn’t that hard to learn and not hard to replace, Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 12:36 PM, Matt

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
, 12:25 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Bill, I have a better idea. Why don't you and the 2 buddies who helped you modify the IEFUSI fix it? Probably because you don't have the wherewithal (even with 2 helpers). Regards, David On 2023-09-05 12:04

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
Lol, how about going to chatgpt and asking the same question. So that cut and paste isn’t a factor. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 12:02 PM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Hi Steve, It won't. The first executable

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
Why do you doubt it? Is it because you hope it doesn’t? Certainly, one of you assembler geniuses could test it. Like Mullins said, and others mentioned, most companies that run z/OS don’t need assembler programmers. That numbers in the thousands if not ten thousand. Whereas ISV’s who are the

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
Agree completely. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 9:59 AM, Doug Fuerst wrote: I also think that what many of us seem to forget is that skills need to be used to stay sharp and to learn new things in that field. If you are not doing Assembler a fair amount of

Re: Ray Mullins on Assembler demand.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Must have missed this. > > > > I'll be honest - it's getting smaller and smaller. It's become a niche, > > mainly for system tools ISVs. Metal C is where the invisible hand of IBM > is > &g

Re: Ray Mullins on Assembler demand.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
or iPhone On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 10:22 AM, David Elliot wrote: Very little from what I see. What little there is is stupid stuff like reverse engineering code so that the client can rewrite it in JAVA or whatever the language of the day is. On Tue, Sep 5, 2023, 6:48 AM Bill Johnson <

Ray Mullins on Assembler demand.

2023-09-05 Thread Bill Johnson
How much demand is there for IBM mainframe Assembler programmers? Ray Mullin said this: I'll be honest - it's getting smaller and smaller. It's become a niche, mainly for system tools ISVs. Metal C is where the invisible hand of IBM is pushing the industry. Having said that…

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-04 Thread Bill Johnson
ffer for numbers >> NUMOUT  DC    F'0'          Output buffer for result >> ZERO    DC    F'0'          Constant zero >>          END  MAIN            End of program >> >> On 9/4/2023 9:57 AM, Paul Gilmartinrwrote: >>> On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 16:36:14 +, Bill

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-04 Thread Bill Johnson
uted? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 4:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive lol better known! That’s the goal of these cu

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-04 Thread Bill Johnson
than you are. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 4:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-04 Thread Bill Johnson
projects done using assembler language is simply stating facts. Your listing your degree and places you've worked is indeed irrelevant puffery. Now let's return to your nonsensical assertions about assembler language. On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 20:18:13 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >I’ve listed my ski

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-04 Thread Bill Johnson
, 4 Sep 2023 20:12:41 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >No doubt you don’t have one.  > > >Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > >On Monday, September 4, 2023, 4:11 PM, g...@gabegold.com >wrote: > >That's correctly spelled z/OS. Even beginning system programmers should kno

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-04 Thread Bill Johnson
installing things. On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 20:12:41 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >No doubt you don’t have one.  > > >Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > >On Monday, September 4, 2023, 4:11 PM, g...@gabegold.com >wrote: > >That's correctly spelled z/OS. Even beginning

Key differences between education and training.

2023-09-04 Thread Bill Johnson
- Training refers to an act of inculcating specific skills in a person. Education is all about gaining theoretical knowledge in the classroom or any  institution. - Training is a way to develop specific skills, whereas education is a typical system of learning. - Training is

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-04 Thread Bill Johnson
? Perhaps cheer yourself up by reading some comfortable JCL, or utility control statements. And set some nice variables to feel better. On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 00:06:16 +0000, Bill Johnson wrote: >Degrees are never relevant to the non-degreed. Unless you work for IBM, you’re >likely an

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-04 Thread Bill Johnson
d set some nice variables to feel better. On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 00:06:16 +0000, Bill Johnson wrote: >Degrees are never relevant to the non-degreed. Unless you work for IBM, you’re >likely an installer of zOS.  -- For IB

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-04 Thread Bill Johnson
edu> wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 17:20:24 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >The formatting was perfect. The cut & paste wasn’t. > Could you direct it to a file instead of the screen, and attach the file? (Teachers look askance at copies of hom

Re: Simple request from chatGPT to write assembler program.

2023-09-04 Thread Bill Johnson
efine input and output areas >* >NUMIN    DC    F'0'          Input buffer for numbers >NUMOUT  DC    F'0'          Output buffer for result >ZERO    DC    F'0'          Constant zero >          END  MAIN            End of program > >On 9/4/2023 9:57 AM, Paul Gilmartinrwrote: >

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