es who issued the
WTO and also doesn't just take some literal text from the WTO and have
that executed as the actual command... since a mechanism like that is
likely to get misused.
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> In TSO, the argument of ADDRESS is case-insensitive; in CMS, case-sensitive.
> I understand it's a PSW. Sounds dangerous.
PSW?
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> On 24/06/2021 9:44 pm, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Jun 2021, at 01:57, David Crayford wrote:
> >
> >> For example, to create and ISPF in Lua you instantiate and ISPF object
> >> and then commu
s ugly.
For those who haven't seen this sort of thing in other languages, here's
how it's done in perl and python:
https://perlmaven.com/here-documents
https://www.w3schools.com/python/gloss_python_multi_line_strings.asp
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isplink or ispexec?
- ISTR you wanted to TPUT info to the screen? Why would you
do that when instead you could use SETMSG to display it in
a standard ispf message?
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in any application. Eg the "tso" that one
can type before a tso command on a commandline executes a "select ..."
via a command-table definition (or it used to).
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not want to write an Edit Macro to do this. (I already wrote one of
> these). nor do want to invoke an Edit Macro which will call the Command
> Processor.
Why precisely is an edit macro not an adequate solution, if you write it in
assembler?
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t can you use lua
to tell ispf edit to run a macro (written in lua) and can that macro issue
ispf editor commands, and also display ispf panels (eg to find out what
the macro should do or display its results) and issue tso commands?
How about replacing REXX in eg Netview?
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> I have in the past rather than using just numbered elements of stems eg
>
> thing.1 = "The problem here is"
> thing.2 = 21
> thing.3 = 25
>
> typically defined
>
> _errpfx = 1 ; _xcoord
On Sun, 20 Jun 2021, at 19:08, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 18:08:39 +0100, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> >> >
> >> I see. I'd be inclined to code the repetitive part of that as a loop.
> >
> >There'd be no gain in converting the 8 separat
On Sun, 20 Jun 2021, at 17:25, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 16:09:54 +0100, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> >
> >> So what would you do? Suppose it'd not just [been] three things
> >> that need to be exclu[d]ed first but, say, twenty?
> >
> >sele
On Sun, 20 Jun 2021, at 15:57, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> So what would you do? Suppose it'd not just three things
> that need to be exclued first but, say, twenty?
Oops, sent that too soon. I find it useful often, usually when
validating things, eg:
select
when words(f!ce_bfe) \
On Sun, 20 Jun 2021, at 13:39, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 10:48:09 +0100, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> >Really? What's wrong with
> >
> >select
> > when name='' then nop
> > when st<>'NC' then nop
> > when Ge
work so well.
There'd be nothing wrong with the less elegant
select
when name='' then nop
when st<>'NC' then nop
otherwise do
amount = GetAmount(userID)
if amount <= then call ProcessUser
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> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 16:23:05 +0100, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> >
> >> Can it [EXTERNAL] be suppressed?
> >
> >Only if the listserv has configurable Subject editing, I expect ...
> >or if it can be forced to rei
discussions go off-topic and people edit the Subject: usefully.
Some email/news clients can be set-up to elide words from
Subject lines (sometimes used to strip "Re: Re: Ad: RE:" etc
from Subject lines.
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 08:51:57 +0100, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> >.
compiler simpler to write, and solved the problem of
a compiler having to decide on nested ifs which one an else
belonged to (the "hanging else" problem - usually solved by
assuming an else belongs to the most recent if).
Because it made clear whether an else would be expected it
a lot easier
later to add code within the do/ends of
if fx then do
ntim=ntim+1
end
else do
nres=nres+1
end
than to have to add all the do/end stuff as well as the debugging
code later on. It's also easier, if need be, to comment the if and
else parts
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> My mantra for the past half century has been "You have
> to carve the bird at the joints."
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passes processed the whole set - originals and
the intermediate ones.
The macro names and the parms they took were obviously the
same throughout but the code in the macros was different in
the first 2 passes from that in the second 2 passes.
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> In a recent email one of our number, whose name I won't mention except to
> say that his initials are Jeremy Nicoll, made a comment that got me thinking
> about ~my~ past and present coding habits.
Caramba!
Who was it then? I&#
work, if the
alloc had worked.
> -Original Message-
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> Jeremy Nicoll
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> Twenty+ years ago I always used ALLOC to allocate the datasets
> concerned, and only if that worked t
On Fri, 11 Jun 2021, at 21:02, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> Do LIBDEF/ALTLIB immediately ALLOCATE the data sets named?
Twenty+ years ago I always used ALLOC to allocate the datasets
concerned, and only if that worked then issued LIBDEF/ALTLIB via
their ddname interfaces.
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> solution is "trust but verify" your employee's activities.
The thing is, verification IMO should amount to more than someone
just signing-off Joe
ssibly could, would it be better if it was reassembled with the
right
RACF version's macros and right OS's macros?
Or does it use no macros (even if they're only for mapping DSECTs) at all?
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Does nobody supervise what you and your colleagues do?
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try again
if exclusive use was granted, update the file,
free it again, and stop trying
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job jobid asid tcb needs type qname rname
What qname value are you seeing?
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>
> >On Mon, 22 Mar 2021, at 19:27, Rich Tabor wrote:
> >
> > LINKAGE SECTION.
>
program name, not a variable containing it, and the
other values are the name of variables. Linkpgm will )in this case)
build the parm list with three parm addresses in it.
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mentioned, do any of the listed services have any clues at all
in their names?
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Were there no support emails?
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If your client /rented/ facilities surely they had a contract of some sort, and
thus must know the company name etc?
How did they logon? Was there an ip address involved?
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you can safely run a system at all. How would you protect your datasets
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> I looked at RCVT in an ACF2 system, but the RCVTUADS is nullified. How can
> I locate the active UADS in this case?
What would a UADS be used for on such a system?
Wouldn't everything user-related be under ACF2 control?
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> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 14:56:36 +0000, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> >... Better, use several trailing steps and conditional jcl ...
> >
> That's *so* 20th Century. Better, wrap the payload in a Rexx
> program t
) to rename
that flagfile to indicate if the job ran ok, or had bad step CCs, or abended.
Alternatively have each step append information into the flagfile, and that
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> On 2/18/2021 12:15 PM, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> > How would someone spoof that, unless they had access to my
> > mail hosting company's servers?
>
> ... or coded their own SMTP relay program...
Ok, yes, also if they
How do they know that the file hasn't
been created by hand, or edited between being produced and sent?
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concerned. For example I see X-Delivered-To: headers in some of
my mail.
How would someone spoof that, unless they had access to my
mail hosting company's servers?
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hostSpecifies the host name or IP address of the remote
host to connect to.
Notes:
- mget and mput commands take y/n/q for yes/no/quit.
- Use Control-C to abort commands.
C
without anything prior referring to "tax.". In most of my code there is eg a
tax. = 0
or whatever I think I'd like the default value of any element of tax. to
contain,
and I usually comment what that stem will be used for, and its structure at
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value or a FORMs name or something that has significance in a specifc
site.
Maybe an external writer's work selection criteria selected those bits of
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> On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 19:06:55 +0000, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 29 Jan 2021, at 03:27, David Crayford wrote:
> >...
> >Later, I wrote a PF-key driven editor (that is users did not have to
> >remember
dit, with 18 or so years' use
of ispf edit in the middle period to confuse me.
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(IIRC Peter Brown was a prof elsewhere - Univ of Canterbury? - and I do
remember him coming as a visiting lecturer.)
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> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021, at 07:58, David Crayford wrote:
> > I think your the one missing the point. I can't remember the last time I
> > had to write a macro as I can do the things I need just using commands.
>
> I
the contents of one set of lines with
another via prefix commands.
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write a parser for validating that data, whereas to some extent
the approach I took here allowed me to use all those function
calls to do some of the enforcement of the structure of the
definitions. It also meant that when I had to adjust the code, I
had the code and the search definiti
ere one sets the addressing environment to ispexec before issuing
a series of commands all intended to be executed under the ispexec
environment. If you also have non-ispf commands following that you will
need to set their environments appropriately.
And of course it needs run in an ispf environment,
rding to ISPF Dialog Developer's Guide and
Reference,
zscreen is a 1-byte variable containing:
Logical screen number up to 32 screens (1-9, A-W)
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> novalue:
> error:
> trace R
> xxErrL = ERL
> xxErrN = RC
> say
> say "ERROR" xxErrN
> say errortext(xxErrN)
> say sourceline(xxErrL)
> trace ?i
> nop
> nop
> exit
What a
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> //FOO EXEC MYPROC,PRM1=A,PRM2=B,LBL=FOO
> //FOO EXEC MYPROC,PRM1=C,PRM2=D,LBL=BAR
>
> It's an invitation to errors.
So I see. Shouldn't the last line have been
//BAR EXEC MYPROC,PRM1=C,PRM2=D,LBL=BAR
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all the HDR1 label has
space for).
Spaces and other special characters are valid in such names.
The JCL ref manual has an example of a valid DSN='AB CD'.
I don't know whether it'd be valid to define a datasetname on
such a tape as having just a single-letter name. I don
VS REPLY ' REPLYID ',NO')
> > ROUTE(ONE AUTO1)) NETLOG(Y);
> >
> > With everything coded in the MAT, there is no need for a rexx!!!
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ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/tivoli/netview/dqgl2mst.pdf
Look at the last few lines of the sample ACTAPPLS exec, on p188.
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unction to strip off leading and trailing blanks or
> hexadecimal zeroes.
>
>Syntax: STRIP(varname)
> where 'varname' is the variable name whose value without
> leading and trailing blanks and hexadec
sive values in the 'volume' var.
Given
volume = 'SP5145 ' ,
'SP5146 ' ,
'SP5147 '
(though since that's a list of volsers I doubt very much I'd have called
that var 'volume' - surely eg 'volslist' wou
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Why do you say that?
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number in an error message was really a statement number rather than
the physical line number in the squished code. Imagine if a single line
had several similar statements on it... you wouldn't know which one had
caused
REXX is more efficient something that everyone
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closing bracket, if you want one.
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Why do you have quotes around 'MVS'?
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if r_frg_sz > 0 then rgt_frag = left(rgt_frag,r_frg_sz-1)
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l_frg_sz = length(lft_frag)
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OKEN!YOURTOKEN
(I also sometimes have an escaped blank character so that an exec that
expects a single token as its argument could be given
!the!meaning!of!life
but still process that as "the meaning of life".
Or I pass tokens which are: c2x(whatever)
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was generally placed on specific disk volumes.
The SADUMP tape was only used to get the system IPLed and make it load
the disk-resident program. Has this process changed?
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(rather than waiting for an initiator), and they tend to do system-y things
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If that's the case, you'd expect a larger delay each time you scroll
the list too, at least until all the rows of the underlying table have
been populated.
It might be possible to work out what's going on by running the
panel's logic under dialog test, i
I'd
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saying that such classes DO exist?
> I not working for a software co where I can go APF authorized and do
> what ever I want
Things may have changed but I don't recall APF authorisation having
anything to do with time limits.
Speak to your sysprogs
of running
through a list of dsnames and generating DD statements for them. What is
it about that that's complicated?
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What on earth is so difficult about building JCL? It's just lines of text.
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All you'd have to do is read the dataset list a line at a time and use
a clist or rexx exec or whatever to generate jcl dd statements for
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> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 11:36:12 -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote:
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> >There is a maximum of 5 min CPU time for job step
>
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 18:15:56 +0100, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> >On Wed, 7 Oct 2020, at 18:06, Joseph
y the editor, not by the macro's own logic, and the change command
likewise.
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> >...
> >Alternatively, maybe you never wrote any edit macros in anything other
> >than REXX? ISTR that one could use any SAA language, eg COBOL or
> >
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> On 2020-10-07 11:00, Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> > On Wed, 7 Oct 2020, at 04:03, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
> >
> >> On a different note. I just compared EDIT macro performance versus
> >> IPOUPDTE. IPOUPDTE was about 6
was
in REXX) or scanning through the file line by line, compared with
calling editor commands (which one would expect to be fairly
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> containing lower case characters. An IBM employee has said
> on this list that those names are invalid.
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> you're talking about. Did you accidentally reverse your meaning? Or
> what am I missing?
He meant defining TWO = 2 earlier.
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>
> if fx then str='true'; else str=true
Not really. That might as well have been
str = "true"
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restarted with a new CSI and zones and never got rid of the old one.
Another possibility is that neither CSI contains the FMID. Maybe there's
other CSIs yet to be discovered.
We just don't know what sort of mess the OP has inherited.
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> or just browse one of the PTFs and see the FMID. Than use the SMPE ISPF
> interface option 3.2 (Cross Zone Query) to see if the FMID is installed...
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the parm value.
> This is the results:
>
>>O> "EDIT DATASET('XXX0111.DATA(DATAXX)') MACRO(EICUPDT)
> PARM(1)" <---This is the last line that the trace produced
I don't see how it's possible for the code you posted to hav
startup exec I allocated the PDS and
issued all the necessary LIBDEF commands with LIBRARY(ddname), which -
only needing one PDS to be allocated (by me, not LIBDEF itself) presumably
speeded things up.
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a wearer shouldn't be more than (say) 120 kg nor be falling more than
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