Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
equ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF You might see if you can use IDCAMs to list the first 4k page of the PDS(e) in HEX and see what it looks like Sent from my iPhone No one

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
M-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF There is one other option. Pull down PDS85 and see if anyone updated the software/source to support PDS(e)’s Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Oct 11, 2023, at 08:19, Ste

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-11 Thread Steve Beaver
Hogstrom >> >>>> On Oct 10, 2023, at 6:25 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote: >>> >>> With Java, the JZOS Toolkit has an interface to PDS directories, including >>> MemberStatistics >>> >>> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/sdk-java-technology/8?topic=SSYKE

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-11 Thread Steve Beaver
th Java, the JZOS Toolkit has an interface to PDS directories, including >> MemberStatistics >> >> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/sdk-java-technology/8?topic=SSYKE2_8.0.0/com.ibm.java.zsecurity.api.80.doc/com.ibm.jzos/overview-summary.htm >> >> Kirk Wolf >> Do

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-11 Thread Matt Hogstrom
> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/sdk-java-technology/8?topic=SSYKE2_8.0.0/com.ibm.java.zsecurity.api.80.doc/com.ibm.jzos/overview-summary.htm > > Kirk Wolf > Dovetailed Technologies > http:// <http://dovetail.com>coztoolkit.com > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2023, at 11:53 AM, Matt H

AW: [IBM-MAIN] Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-11 Thread Beate Kawelke
Betreff: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF There is a sample assembler program in xephon magazine. Find it in the cbttape website ITschak בתאריך יום ג׳, 10 באוק׳ 2023 ב-21:46 מאת Matt Hogstrom : > Thanks Mike, this helps a lot. > > Matt Hog

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-11 Thread ITschak Mugzach
served for ISPF > > * when ISPESTAT = On and SMDE_USRD_LEN = X'28' then > > ORG ISPBLANK+1 > > ISPECLIN DSCL4 Current number of lines > > ISPEILIN DSCL4 Initial number of lines > > ISPEMLIN DSCL4

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
October 2023 20:45 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF Yes. Use DESERV to get the directory entry and look at the user data field. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Matt Hogstrom

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Kirk Wolf
com>coztoolkit.com On Tue, Oct 10, 2023, at 11:53 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: > I’m looking for a way to access ISPF statistics from Java or C outside of a > TSO / ISPF environment. Does such an animal exist out there ? > > Matt Hogstrom > m...@hogstrom.org > > “It may

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yes. Use DESERV to get the directory entry and look at the user data field. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Matt Hogstrom Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 12:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Matt Hogstrom
gt; Twitter <https://twitter.com/hogstrom> “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive." — Hogstrom > On Oct 10, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Tom Marchant > <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > ISPF statistics are kept in the directory. You can read th

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Matt Hogstrom
; ISPECLIN DSCL4 Current number of lines > ISPEILIN DSCL4 Initial number of lines > ISPEMLIN DSCL4 Number of modified lines > MEND > > > Mike Shaw > MVS/QuickRef Support Group > Chicago

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Mike Shaw
, Ltd. On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 12:53 PM Matt Hogstrom wrote: > I’m looking for a way to access ISPF statistics from Java or C outside of > a TSO / ISPF environment. Does such an animal exist out there ? > > Matt Hogstrom > m...@hogstrom.org > > “It may be cognitive, bu

Re: Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Tom Marchant
ISPF statistics are kept in the directory. You can read the directory entry with BLDL. Or read the directory directly and look for the entry. Directory blocks are 256 bytes. Mapping macro is IHAPDS. -- Tom Marchant On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 12:53:26 -0400, Matt Hogstrom wrote: >I’m look

Access to PDS(E) ISPF statistics outside of TSO/ISPF

2023-10-10 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I’m looking for a way to access ISPF statistics from Java or C outside of a TSO / ISPF environment. Does such an animal exist out there ? Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive." — Hog

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 00:52:02 -0500, Gord Tomlin wrote: >On 2019-01-16 18:43, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> FAMS information. >> >> o I don't know the API. > >And you won't, unless you make a significant contribution to IBM's coffers. > Customers need to pay extra to be able to read the timestamps of

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2019-01-16 18:43, Paul Gilmartin wrote: FAMS information. o I don't know the API. And you won't, unless you make a significant contribution to IBM's coffers. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905)

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
process each member entry in the block. > See "DFSMS Using Data Sets" / PDS Directory for the layout structure >fclose() > >ISPF stats are in the optional user data section of the member entry. >ISP.SISPMACS(ISPDSTAT) can be used to map that for ISPF statistics. > >The z/

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Charles Mills
ata Sets" / PDS Directory for the layout structure fclose() ISPF stats are in the optional user data section of the member entry. ISP.SISPMACS(ISPDSTAT) can be used to map that for ISPF statistics. The z/OS XLC/C++ Programming Guide has a sample ""Listing Partitioned Data Set Members"

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Kirk Wolf
/ PDS Directory for the layout structure fclose() ISPF stats are in the optional user data section of the member entry. ISP.SISPMACS(ISPDSTAT) can be used to map that for ISPF statistics. The z/OS XLC/C++ Programming Guide has a sample ""Listing Partitioned Data Set Members"

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Charles Mills
, January 16, 2019 1:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics? Charles, Try CBT file 357. Member TOUCH in that file is a PL/1 program that may be more easily translated into C and then enhanced to recognize the newer "ext

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
ERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 4:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics? EXTERNAL EMAIL Oh. End of story. Thanks. Charles -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:08:28 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Oh. End of story. > >Thanks. > There are programmers who, for whatever reason, prefer to drag along ISPF rather than to drag along LE. For such people: z/OS IBM ISPF Services Guide Version 2 Release 3 SC19-3626-30 Dismayingly,

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Charles Mills
Oh. End of story. Thanks. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 12:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Charles Mills
: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics? That was my first question too before I started using those services but those variables are available once the PDS is open, so a little clunky I guess, but first you need to do an LMINIT,then LMOPEN, LMMSTATS

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Carmen Vitullo
yeah - there is that :( Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Kirk Wolf" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:38:06 PM Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics? and of course you have to run under ISPF and

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Kirk Wolf
> Charles > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 5:25 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF stati

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
16, 2019 2:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics? Okay, where the heck are the meanings and formats of dataid, ver1, etc. documented? Also, I want to *retrieve* (not set) those values. I see LMMSTATS documented as "set and

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Charles Mills
Okay, where the heck are the meanings and formats of dataid, ver1, etc. documented? Also, I want to *retrieve* (not set) those values. I see LMMSTATS documented as "set and store ISPF statistics." Can I use LMMSTATS to retrieve existing statistics. I don't want to c

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Vitullo - Original Message - From: "scott Ford" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 11:49:42 AM Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics? Carmen, How you did we did but in Rexx for part of our CI/Deploy process internall

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread scott Ford
Carmen, How you did we did but in Rexx for part of our CI/Deploy process internally. Scott On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 11:50 AM Tom Marchant < 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 06:54:29 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > > >Also, what Kirk says. The above

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 06:54:29 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Also, what Kirk says. The above involves writing and maintaining a module and >double OPENs. When you open a PDS member, you are opening a sequential data set that happens to be contained in a PDS member. >You ought, as Kirk says, be

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Carmen Vitullo
2019 5:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics? Agree, and if I'm reading the OP's query correctly he's asking for ISPF stats not PDS member or directory info, correct? the LM services part of ISPF, are available in many languages,

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Charles Mills
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics? Agree, and if I'm reading the OP's query correctly he's asking for ISPF stats not PDS member or directory info, correct? the LM services part of ISPF, are available in many languages, including C so

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Charles Mills
MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 4:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics? Why don't you just read the directory and write a mapping for the user data area? On 16/01/2019 5:52 am, Charle

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Carmen Vitullo
tserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:50:13 PM Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics? On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 15:07:41 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Well, I just voted for it (after I got past IBM's #$#@^! logon process). >

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread Kirk Wolf
directory info smoothly. On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 6:42 AM David Crayford wrote: > Why don't you just read the directory and write a mapping for the user > data area? > > On 16/01/2019 5:52 am, Charles Mills wrote: > > I'm looking for a C-callable subroutine that would give me the I

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-16 Thread David Crayford
Why don't you just read the directory and write a mapping for the user data area? On 16/01/2019 5:52 am, Charles Mills wrote: I'm looking for a C-callable subroutine that would give me the ISPF statistics for a PDS(E) member (if available). I'm particularly interested in the "ch

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-15 Thread Scott Barry
ter I got past IBM's #$#@^! logon process). > >The driver for mainframe C was "porting industry applications" and few UNIX >applications retrieve ISPF statistics. > >Charles > >> docs but could easily have missed something. Does such a function exist? >> >

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 15:07:41 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Well, I just voted for it (after I got past IBM's #$#@^! logon process). > >The driver for mainframe C was "porting industry applications" and few UNIX >applications retrieve ISPF statistics. > Via LM serv

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-15 Thread Charles Mills
Well, I just voted for it (after I got past IBM's #$#@^! logon process). The driver for mainframe C was "porting industry applications" and few UNIX applications retrieve ISPF statistics. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTS

Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-15 Thread Kirk Wolf
The IBM C library is pretty crummy when it comes to PDS members and user data such as ISPF statistics. Here's an RFE that I submitted in 2015. "Better support for PDS members in z/OS C library" https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=80811 On Tue, Jan 15, 20

Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?

2019-01-15 Thread Charles Mills
I'm looking for a C-callable subroutine that would give me the ISPF statistics for a PDS(E) member (if available). I'm particularly interested in the "changed" timestamp. I've searched the C library and LE programming docs but could easily have missed something. Does such a function

Re: IBM Mapping macro for ISPF statistics in PDS Directory entries?

2019-01-01 Thread David Cole
Ouch! At 12/31/2018 11:57 AM, Tom Conley wrote: On 12/31/2018 11:12 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 12/30/2018 9:37 PM, David Cole wrote: Thanks Tom! That is exactly what I was looking for. I also want to thank a couple of people who sent me off-list messages, but they'd prefer to remain anonymous. I

Re: IBM Mapping macro for ISPF statistics in PDS Directory entries?

2018-12-31 Thread Tom Conley
On 12/31/2018 11:12 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 12/30/2018 9:37 PM, David Cole wrote: Thanks Tom! That is exactly what I was looking for. I also want to thank a couple of people who sent me off-list messages, but they'd prefer to remain anonymous. I wondered how we never found this. The answer

Re: IBM Mapping macro for ISPF statistics in PDS Directory entries?

2018-12-31 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/30/2018 9:37 PM, David Cole wrote: Thanks Tom! That is exactly what I was looking for. I also want to thank a couple of people who sent me off-list messages, but they'd prefer to remain anonymous. I wondered how we never found this. The answer turned out to be a simple one. The macro

Re: IBM Mapping macro for ISPF statistics in PDS Directory entries?

2018-12-31 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
ems Programmer – RavenTek Solution Partners -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM Mapping macro for ISPF statistics in

Re: IBM Mapping macro for ISPF statistics in PDS Directory entries?

2018-12-31 Thread Allan Staller
Which Macro? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 9:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Mapping macro for ISPF statistics in PDS Directory entries? I found this macro in the ISPF maclib. It's

Re: IBM Mapping macro for ISPF statistics in PDS Directory entries?

2018-12-30 Thread David Cole
mapping macro for the ISPF statistics found in PDS directory entries. I've searched high and low, but I'm not having much luck. Certainly, I could write a mapping macro myself, but I'd rather not if IBM already has one. I know about IHAPDS, but that maps load module related data, not ISPF

Re: IBM Mapping macro for ISPF statistics in PDS Directory entries?

2018-12-29 Thread Tom Conley
On 12/28/2018 5:41 PM, David Cole wrote: Hi, I'm looking for an IBM written mapping macro for the ISPF statistics found in PDS directory entries. I've searched high and low, but I'm not having much luck. Certainly, I could write a mapping macro myself, but I'd rather not if IBM already has

Re: IBM Mapping macro for ISPF statistics in PDS Directory entries?

2018-12-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi David, Please see the PDS Command Processor (CBT Tape File 182). It's not IBM, but, It works and allows users to modify fields of directory entries. Regards, David On 2018-12-28 17:40, David Cole wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for an IBM written mapping macro for the ISPF statistics

Re: IBM Mapping macro for ISPF statistics in PDS Directory entries?

2018-12-29 Thread Steve Smith
king for an IBM written mapping macro for the ISPF statistics > > found in PDS directory entries. I've searched high and low, but I'm > > not having much luck. > > We had the same issue and ended up constructing our own. > > We never wou

Re: IBM Mapping macro for ISPF statistics in PDS Directory entries?

2018-12-28 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/28/2018 2:40 PM, David Cole wrote: I'm looking for an IBM written mapping macro for the ISPF statistics found in PDS directory entries. I've searched high and low, but I'm not having much luck. We had the same issue and ended up constructing our own. We never would have done so

IBM Mapping macro for ISPF statistics in PDS Directory entries?

2018-12-28 Thread David Cole
Hi, I'm looking for an IBM written mapping macro for the ISPF statistics found in PDS directory entries. I've searched high and low, but I'm not having much luck. Certainly, I could write a mapping macro myself, but I'd rather not if IBM already has one. I know about IHAPDS

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:27:07 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: >On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 00:49:13 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote: > >>That's what I mean by 'used as evidence'. And I wondered if it is just my >>ignorance or if there really is no way (as I suspected) to >>prevent unauthorized

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-10 Thread Don Leahy
I once wrote a blog on this topic on the company's internal social media site. I called it "Lies, damned lies and Member List Statistics". :-) On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:27 AM Walt Farrell wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 00:49:13 -0500, Barbara Nitz

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-10 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 00:49:13 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote: >That's what I mean by 'used as evidence'. And I wondered if it is just my >ignorance or if there really is no way (as I suspected) to >prevent unauthorized changing of the statistics. There is no way to do that

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-09 Thread Barbara Nitz
>Evidence of what Barb ? Don't hang anyone on this evidence. Anyone with >update access to the pds can update this field.. My colleague asked me on Friday if it is possible to fake the ISPF Statistics. I already knew that you can write them yourself using something other than ISPF. So we

Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-09 Thread Kenneth J. Kripke
Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation: A product that tracks and controls access to members within a PDS is eventACTION. Granted, it doesn't prohibit someone from changing the ISPF stats for a member, But, if the library is controlled, It will prohibit updates unless authorized

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-08 Thread CM Poncelet
If it helps, this thing updates a PDS directory using STOW. It will need some tweaking to update the USERDATA (check the PDS directory map). Cheers, CP MEMBER NAME ALIAS * * THIS PROGRAM ALIASES ENTRIES IN A PARTITIONED DATASET. * MEMBERS MAY HAVE FIXED OR VARIABLE LOGICAL RECORD LENGTH (FB OR

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-08 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 07/07/2017 03:50 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:05:42 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote: > >> A colleague of mine just asked me if ISPF statistics in a data set, >> especially the USERID field, can be manipulated. We used ISPF 3.5 and we >> were both asto

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread Steve Horein
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Barbara Nitz <nitz-...@gmx.net> wrote: > A colleague of mine just asked me if ISPF statistics in a data set, > especially the USERID field, can be manipulated. We used ISPF 3.5 and we > were both astonished that I was easily able to fake a userid

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread Beverly Caldwell
a member name just the pds name as it is the directory which is being updated. Maybe an ISPF exit ? On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Barbara Nitz <nitz-...@gmx.net> wrote: > A colleague of mine just asked me if ISPF statistics in a data set, > especially the USERID field, can be manipula

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:05:42 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote: >A colleague of mine just asked me if ISPF statistics in a data set, especially >the USERID field, can be manipulated. We used ISPF 3.5 and we were both >astonished that I was easily able to fake a userid as the one who las

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread Dana Mitchell
Free PDS command on CBT Tape can do this, see the ATTRIB subcommand: SYNTAX - ATTRIB member AMODE24/AMODE31/AMODE64/AMODEANY AUTH/NOAUTH or APF/NOAPF

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/7/2017 11:07 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I'm curious what else might lurk in that "PDSE AX cell". Perhaps an immutable creator ID? 8 characters in z/OS 2.3? Note that 8-byte userid support was added to MVS way back in 1995. Only TSO/E lagged behind... .* $04=OW13376 HBB4420 950329

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 13:17:52 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > >It will surprise me if IBM hasn't given some serious thought to this >for PDSEs. A formally managed interface to PDSE member metadata, >subject to RACF etc. controls, would be quite doable. Of course it >would be tricky to make it

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread Brenton, Ren
sm zerrsm = '' Signal Err_Exit Err_Alloc: zerrsm = '' zerrlm = 'An error, RC =' cc, 'occurred trying to allocate DD' dd_nam 'to' pds_nam 'as follows:', "ALLOC FILE("dd_nam") DA("pds_nam") SHR" Signal Err_Exit Err_Alloc_OLd:

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 16:56:09 +0200, R.S. wrote: >W dniu 2017-07-07 o 15:29, Lizette Koehler pisze: >> As far as I know, the statistics have always worked that way. That as long >> as you had the ability to edit (change/alter/del/create) the PDS you could >> use

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread Tony Harminc
On 7 July 2017 at 09:30, John McKown <john.archie.mck...@gmail.com> wrote: > There are no control possible for this. The ISPF statistics are simply > data in the "user data area" portion of a member's directory entry. > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLT

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John McKown wrote: >​There are no control possible for this. There are some control. ISPCCONFIG can be used to FORCE stats using module ISPCFIGU, but hahahahahaha, override it with option =3.5 as the OP said. >The ISPF statistics are simply data in the "user data ar

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-07-07 o 15:29, Lizette Koehler pisze: As far as I know, the statistics have always worked that way. That as long as you had the ability to edit (change/alter/del/create) the PDS you could use 3.5 to change the ID field to anything you like. ...except the dates. Sometimes I want

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread Longabaugh, Robert E
my second choice after trying "STATS OFF" on the new member I am editing. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 8:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Friday quest

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Barbara Nitz <nitz-...@gmx.net> wrote: > A colleague of mine just asked me if ISPF statistics in a data set, > especially the USERID field, can be manipulated. We used ISPF 3.5 and we > were both astonished that I was easily able to fake a userid

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
to:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Barbara Nitz > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 6:06 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation > > A colleague of mine just asked me if ISPF statistics in a data set, > especially the USERI

Re: Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:05:42 -0500 Barbara Nitz <nitz-...@gmx.net> wrote: :>A colleague of mine just asked me if ISPF statistics in a data set, especially the USERID field, can be manipulated. We used ISPF 3.5 and we were both astonished that I was easily able to fake a userid as th

Friday question: ISPF Statistics Manipulation

2017-07-07 Thread Barbara Nitz
A colleague of mine just asked me if ISPF statistics in a data set, especially the USERID field, can be manipulated. We used ISPF 3.5 and we were both astonished that I was easily able to fake a userid as the one who last changed a member (testing in my own dataset, of course

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-10-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ofb21d8206.2b6c4d45-on85257d69.000dc2ef-85257d69.000dc...@us.ibm.com, on 10/05/2014 at 10:30 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com said: On a marginally related subject, JCL supports a hyphen within a data set name It used to allow a hyphen within a member name; the hyphen was convenient as

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-10-05 Thread Peter Relson
BTW, I note that I learned (many years ago; I haven't tried lately) that LMCOPY allowed me to create a member with a hyphen in its name, but LMMSTATS reported a syntax error when I attempted to update its statistics. Can anyone supply a *good* reason for this? I don't know about character sets

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-10-04 Thread Steve Horein
Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? I did see the TOUCH program in # 357 but I missed COPYISPF in # 720. Unfortunately I don't have access to a PL/I compiler for TOUCH. By its description, COPYISPF is actually a Rexx program with assembler subroutines. As I

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-10-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 21:55:48 -0500, Steve Horein wrote: ... ADDRESS ISPEXEC LMMSTATS DATAID(dataido) MEMBER(member) VERSION(newver), ... BTW, I note that I learned (many years ago; I haven't tried lately) that LMCOPY allowed me to create a member with a hyphen in its name, but LMMSTATS

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-10-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
theme song. (Wiki) - -teD -   Original Message   From: Nims,Alva John (Al) Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 18:35 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? Nope, in one of the scenes, Marilyn sang

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-10-01 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? I did see the TOUCH program in # 357 but I missed COPYISPF in # 720. Unfortunately I don't have access to a PL/I compiler for TOUCH. By its description, COPYISPF is actually a Rexx program with assembler subroutines. As I

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-10-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Ethel Merman - -teD -   Original Message   From: Nims,Alva John (Al) Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 17:49 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? 1st about being Lazy, I hear ya, queue up

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-10-01 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? Ethel Merman - -teD -   Original Message From: Nims,Alva John (Al) Sent: Wednesday

Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Is there any standard IBM tool available to set the ISPF statistics in a PDS/E member's directory entry from a batch job step? I don't much care if it only uses the current date/time of the batch step run for the statistics. I don't have a need to set them to particular date values, I just

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:54:54 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: The motivation for this is the sad fact that the IBM FTP server does not set statistics for RECFM=VB PDS/E members even when the SITE ISPFSTATS toggle is set. It only does it for RECFM=FB PDS/E members, even at the z/OS V2.1

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 12:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:54:54 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: The motivation

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Library management services under ISPF -- LM* - -teD -   Original Message   From: Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:54 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? Is there any

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
That explains the behavior I saw, though it does not excuse it. My tests used LRECL=1028. Why in the world does LRECL have anything at all to do with whether ISPF statistics are recorded or not? That just makes no sense to me whatsoever. Thank you for the RTFM pointer. Another sad fact

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Bob Rutledge
Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: Another sad fact is that when the z/OS FTP server does set the ISPF statistics, it seems to use a simple-minded STCK + STCKCONV algorithm, since in my tests the date and time are set to UTC instead of setting them to the local time using the CVT time zone values

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
! :) Now I know you asked for Any standard IBM tool, but if you don't mind, there are a couple of tools on the CBTTAPE (www.cbttape.org) that you might want to take a look into; File 357 has TOUCH a PL/I based program to modify ISPF Statistics. File 720 has COPYISPF which copies from one PDS

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Longabaugh, Robert E
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Nims,Alva John (Al) Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? To further my contribution

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread zMan
) Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? To further my contribution to this discussion, I was looking for a way to run the ISPF opt 3.5 in batch last year, when I was working as a contractor

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-09-30 12:23, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: That explains the behavior I saw, though it does not excuse it. My tests used LRECL=1028. Why in the world does LRECL have anything at all to do with whether ISPF statistics are recorded or not? That just makes no sense to me whatsoever

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Use LMSTATS others -- it's there! - -teD -   Original Message   From: Nims,Alva John (Al) Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 15:52 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? To further my

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:00:04 -0400, Ted MacNEIL wrote: Use LMSTATS others -- it's there! The OP expressed a distaste for LM under TSO under ISPF under batch: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:54:54 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: ..., but other than programming a Rexx script using the ISPF LM

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Rutledge Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? Farley, Peter x23353

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
, Robert E Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? Also you can use LMMSTATS from REXX or other languages. The command is documented in TSO/E REXX Reference. ISPEXEC LMMSTATS DATAID(data1

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Gibney, Dave
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- m...@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Rutledge Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN

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