Re: Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU)

2015-07-24 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I still use IEHPROGM to delete members of a PDS. Because I can... On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: On 2015-07-22 14:46, John Eells wrote: The syntax is pretty clearly documented in Access Method Services... It is. I

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-23 Thread venkat kulkarni
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU I am working as UID 0 with all

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caafjfphe+t9tq-kkgoc+a5-acaqqacyv+yznrh+pb7wsefu...@mail.gmail.com, on 07/23/2015 at 07:27 AM, venkat kulkarni venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com said: Can you please provide me full command for increasing size for SASMMOD1 What makes you think you need to. Did you rerun with compesss after

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-23 Thread J O Skip Robinson
: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU I've was taught the method to copy one RES to another and apply maintenance to the alternate RES volume(s). And I have had many of the same space issues being discussed here. The method you describe of having an install set of RES and HFS volumes sounds

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-23 Thread Mark Pace
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU I am working as UID 0 with all required

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-23 Thread retired mainframer
: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU Thanks. So you mean to have access on CLASS === FACILITY PROFILE === 'STGADMIN.DPDSRN.SYS1.SASMMOD1' So, while providing access, what should I mention, UACC = NONE and access to my user id is = ALTER Or, something else can be solution

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-23 Thread venkat kulkarni
Thanks. So you mean to have access on CLASS === FACILITY PROFILE === 'STGADMIN.DPDSRN.SYS1.SASMMOD1' So, while providing access, what should I mention, UACC = NONE and access to my user id is = ALTER Or, something else can be solution on this. On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Thomas

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread Thomas Conley
On 7/22/2015 11:10 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: I would suggest you download PDSCLEAN (file 693) from the CBTTAPE.ORG and assm/lked it and use that for emptying the LIBRARIES. Works for PDS and PDS/E datasets. You can empty the library and it looks like it was just allocated. Then you should

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread John Eells
pinnc...@rochester.rr.com (Thomas Conley) wrote: On 7/22/2015 11:10 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: snip Next, always over allocate your libraries to handle future maintenance. If you use IBM's allocation from Server pac - they are always too small (in my opinion) Yeah, we can't win there.

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Conley Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU On 7/22/2015 11:10 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread Doug Henry
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU Hello Dan, This solution wont work because we are running system from primary RES volume and applying Maintenence on Alt RES volume and DDDEF also pointing to Alt RES volume dataset. Now, When

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU Hello Group, I am applying RSU on z/OS 1.13 system and encountered D37-04 and E37-04 for various datasets like D37-04 SYS1.SASMMOD1 --- is used

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread Tom Brennan
J O Skip Robinson wrote: ...When you're ready to IPL a new maintenance level, copy your install environment over the alternate sysres environment using production HLQs like SYS1. Exactly. And I'd like to add that one big benefit of the copy step on a test system is that you get some

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread retired mainframer
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU Hello Group, I am applying RSU on z/OS 1.13 system and encountered D37-04 and E37-04 for various datasets like D37-04 SYS1.SASMMOD1 --- is used by XCFAS , LLA, D37-04 SYS1.SISPLOAD

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU Based on the E37, CNMLINK already has multiple extents. When you reallocate it on your target volume, give it a larger secondary quantity. You may also need to adjust the primary quantity. NUCLEUS cannot tolerate

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
10:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU Based on the E37, CNMLINK already has multiple extents. When you reallocate it on your target volume, give it a larger secondary quantity. You may also need to adjust the primary quantity. NUCLEUS

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John Eells wrote: Yeah, we can't win there. You can and you have already won. The fact is, with each system there is a list of space requirements in the program directory and/or installation manual. Use these lists and add about 10-50% or more extra depending on your own requirements and

Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU)

2015-07-22 Thread John Eells
ee...@us.ibm.com (John Eells) wrote: pinnc...@rochester.rr.com (Thomas Conley) wrote: snip I would recommend FIXPDS RESET, from the PDS package, file 182 on your cbttape dial, www.cbttape.org. It zeroes out the directory and makes it look like an empty PDS. So does IDCAMS DELETE these days

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread John Eells
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za (Elardus Engelbrecht) wrote: John Eells wrote: Yeah, we can't win there. You can and you have already won. The fact is, with each system there is a list of space requirements in the program directory and/or installation manual. Use these lists and add about

Re: Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU)

2015-07-22 Thread Bob Rutledge
On 7/22/2015 3:59 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On 2015-07-22 13:45, John Eells wrote: So does IDCAMS DELETE these days (I forget when we added this). Both likely use STOW INIT. Syntax? delete pds.name(*) That would appear to DELETE the entire library. But DELETE followed by reallocate

Re: Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU)

2015-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-07-22 13:45, John Eells wrote: So does IDCAMS DELETE these days (I forget when we added this). Both likely use STOW INIT. Syntax? That would appear to DELETE the entire library. But DELETE followed by reallocate is certainly a valid approach. Why not? The guy who wrote the code

Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread venkat kulkarni
Hello Group, I am applying RSU on z/OS 1.13 system and encountered D37-04 and E37-04 for various datasets like D37-04 SYS1.SASMMOD1 --- is used by XCFAS , LLA, D37-04 SYS1.SISPLOAD --- is used by XCFAS , LLA, D37-04 SYS1.SGIMLMD0 --- is used by XCFAS , LLA, D37-04

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread Paul Gillis
kulkarni Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2015 7:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU Hello Group, I am applying RSU on z/OS 1.13 system and encountered D37-04 and E37-04 for various datasets like D37-04 SYS1.SASMMOD1 --- is used by XCFAS

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread venkat kulkarni
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU Hello Group, I am applying RSU on z/OS 1.13 system and encountered D37-04 and E37-04 for various datasets like D37-04 SYS1.SASMMOD1 --- is used by XCFAS , LLA, D37-04 SYS1.SISPLOAD --- is used

Re: Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU)

2015-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-07-22 14:45, Chris Hoelscher wrote: An approach I have taken the past several years ... /* REXX */ /* DELETE ALL MEMBERS OF A GIVEN LIBRARY DSN */ /* TRACE 'R' */ /* TRACE 'O' */ Ouch! Are there errors you choose to have unreported? DSNAME = 'dataset name' DSN = STRIP(DSNAME,

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread Thomas Conley
On 7/22/2015 9:41 PM, venkat kulkarni wrote: Thanks to all. I checked JOB report more carefully and found that COMPRESS and RETRY was specified on the APPLY, so SMP/E was able to recover in most of these cases. If we check the CAUSER SYSMOD SUMMARY REPORT, only SASMMOD1 failed after debatching.

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread venkat kulkarni
Hello Tom, Thanks for reply. Can you please provide me full command for increasing size for SASMMOD1 , as I have never used this utility before. My current size is Data Set Name . . . : SYS1.SASMMOD1 General Data Current Allocation Volume serial . .

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread venkat kulkarni
Thanks to all. I checked JOB report more carefully and found that COMPRESS and RETRY was specified on the APPLY, so SMP/E was able to recover in most of these cases. If we check the CAUSER SYSMOD SUMMARY REPORT, only SASMMOD1 failed after debatching. An easy option is to enlarge SASMMOD1 using

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread Thomas Conley
On 7/22/2015 9:57 PM, venkat kulkarni wrote: Hello Tom, Thanks for reply. Can you please provide me full command for increasing size for SASMMOD1 , as I have never used this utility before. My current size is Data Set Name . . . : SYS1.SASMMOD1 General Data

Re: Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU)

2015-07-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU) 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: On 2015-07-22 13:45, John

Re: Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU)

2015-07-22 Thread Chris Hoelscher
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU) ee...@us.ibm.commailto:ee...@us.ibm.com (John Eells) wrote: pinnc...@rochester.rr.commailto:pinnc...@rochester.rr.com (Thomas Conley) wrote: snip I would recommend FIXPDS RESET, from

Re: Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU)

2015-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-07-22 14:38, Bob Rutledge wrote: delete pds.name(*) Is there a non-assembler interface for this? Seems a good candidate for ISPF DSLIST. OK. TSO line command; nothing in ISPF DSLIST? Lately I asked here how I might coalesce data set extents (I've been using

Re: Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU)

2015-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-07-22 14:46, John Eells wrote: The syntax is pretty clearly documented in Access Method Services... It is. I was mostly commenting on your brevity. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2i2a1/20.1.1?SHELF=all13be9DT=20120126090739CASE= Says: If you are

Re: Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU)

2015-07-22 Thread John Eells
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: On 2015-07-22 13:45, John Eells wrote: So does IDCAMS DELETE these days (I forget when we added this). Both likely use STOW INIT. Syntax? That would appear to DELETE the entire library. But DELETE followed by

Re: Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU)

2015-07-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
, July 22, 2015 3:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU) DEL (*) gives invalid dataset name However: DEL /(*) gives me an empty PDS and IDC0553I ALL MEMBERS IN DATA SET RRP4912.TEMP.JCL DELETED In addition

Re: Cleaning Out a PDS (Was Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU)

2015-07-22 Thread Mike Schwab
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Bob Rutledge deerh...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On 7/22/2015 3:59 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: deleted Lately I asked here how I might coalesce data set extents (I've been using HMIGRATE/HRECALL.) Someone said IBM supplies such a utility now. Google is not my friend

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread Paul Strauss
and delete all copies of the message immediately. From: venkat kulkarni venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 07/22/2015 09:41 AM Subject:Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU I am working as UID 0 with all required authority. I don't see any issue with it. Still can you please suggest the authority required,So that I can cross verify. Regards Venkat On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Blake, Daniel J [CTR

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread Blake, Daniel J [CTR]
volume, not your IPL volume. Dan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU Hello

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread venkat kulkarni
, July 22, 2015 9:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU Hello, Thanks for reply. Yes, I am applying Maintenance not on production system. Can you please suggest on the issue I discussed before. Regards Venkat. On Wed, Jul 22

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread Blake, Daniel J [CTR]
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU Hello Dan, This solution wont work because we are running system from primary RES volume and applying Maintenence on Alt RES volume and DDDEF also pointing to Alt RES volume dataset. Now, When I

Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread venkat kulkarni
: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU Hello Dan, This solution wont work because we are running system from primary RES volume and applying Maintenence on Alt RES volume and DDDEF also pointing to Alt RES volume dataset. Now, When I tried renaming Alt volume dataset