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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:37:12 +, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com
wrote:
We the willing,
Are doing the impossible,
I remember it as We the willing, led by the unknowing...
Also We the
In
3543334435611904.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu,
on 02/04/2015
at 01:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
What about the freebies listed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEDIT
to cure your longing to XEDIT (editor for VM / CMS )?
THE is fine fot
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
I still have fond memories of XEDIT.
I'm a TSO bigot, but I miss XEDIT.
What about the freebies listed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEDIT to
cure your longing to
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 07:35:13 -0600, John McKown wrote:
... instead of IBM's Bourne/Korn shell mashup.
ITYM POSIX.
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 07:53:39 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
What about the freebies listed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEDIT
to cure your longing to XEDIT (editor for
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 07:35:13 -0600, John McKown wrote:
... instead of IBM's Bourne/Korn shell mashup.
ITYM POSIX.
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 07:53:39 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In
CAAJSdjgGUpE+EwwYD_dsE=sdE6e59ivH0=pdfb4xf1ebsg_...@mail.gmail.com,
on 02/02/2015
at 06:59 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
I still have fond memories of XEDIT.
I'm a TSO bigot, but I miss XEDIT.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position; see
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
I still have fond memories of XEDIT.
I'm a TSO bigot, but I miss XEDIT.
What about the freebies listed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEDIT to cure
your longing to XEDIT (editor for VM / CMS )?
Of course, not the real thing, but near enough.
Groete / Greetings
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:37:12 +, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com
wrote:
We the willing,
Are doing the impossible,
I remember it as We the willing, led by the unknowing...
--
Tom Marchant
--
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In 87r3u8dlvd@garlic.com, on 02/02/2015
at 01:49 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said:
cp67 distribution was always full source ... and customers
typically built their systems from the source. This continued with
the vm370 followon
FSVO this. IBM distributed service with
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
FSVO this. IBM distributed service with preassembled modules. Only
if you had updates would the service process reassemble.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#84 a bit of hope? What was old is new
again
On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Paul Gilmartin)
writes:
Where I read:
... For example, one thing I try to do is to have our IT
infrastructure employees trained
to code so that they can automate repetitive
edgould1...@comcast.net (Ed Gould) writes:
yet IBM never delivered a source code maintenance system. Something
that practically everyone was in need of.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#84 a bit of hope? What was old is new
again.
science center did the multi-level cms update source
On 2015-02-02 17:59, John McKown wrote:
Long ago, 1980s, we used VM/CMS for program development. On identical
hardware, it beat the dickens out of TSO/ISPF. I still have fond memories
of XEDIT. Of course, ee ran MVS on a separate machine. We ran MVS under
VM/SP1 for testing, and with shared
Long ago, 1980s, we used VM/CMS for program development. On identical
hardware, it beat the dickens out of TSO/ISPF. I still have fond memories
of XEDIT. Of course, ee ran MVS on a separate machine. We ran MVS under
VM/SP1 for testing, and with shared SPOOL to submit jobs to run on the
production
So, it was IBM saying if you don't run VM, FY?
I think the many MVS sites would take exception to that.
From my perspective VM was OK some things but not for PRODUCTION.
VM was a sand box so the real work was to be done on MVS.
Ed
On Feb 2, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
edgould1...@comcast.net (Ed Gould) writes:
So, it was IBM saying if you don't run VM, FY? I think the many MVS
sites would take exception to that. From my perspective VM was OK
some things but not for PRODUCTION. VM was a sand box so the real
work was to be done on MVS.
re:
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#84 a bit of hope? What was old is new
again.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#85 a bit of hope? What was old is new
again.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#86 a bit of hope? What was old is new
again.
part of customer facing issue was that in
I liked this article:
https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2014/12/how-today-s-young-it-talent-different-previous-generations
But the author obviously only knows about the drag and drop generation of
programmers and not us old buzzards. The author, a teacher, is praising
his students who are
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 09:14:35 -0600, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
wrote:
I liked this article:
https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2014/12/how-today-s-young-it-talent-different-previous-generations
But the author obviously only knows about the drag and drop generation of
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Paul Gilmartin
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 09:14:35 -0600, John McKown wrote:
I liked this article:
https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2014/12/how-today-s-young-it-talent-different-previous-generations
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
Where I read:
... For example, one thing I try to do is to have our IT infrastructure
employees trained
to code so that they can automate repetitive tasks.
In contrast to the Enterprise mindset frequently
We the willing,
Are doing the impossible,
For the ungrateful,
We have done so much,
For so long,
With so little,
For so little,
We are now qualified to do anything,
With Nothing,
For Nothing!
snip
...snippage
Thou shalt find way to do more while spending even less money so that our
budget may
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Dale R. Smith dale-sm...@columbus.rr.com
wrote:
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 09:14:35 -0600, John McKown
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote:
I liked this article:
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 09:14:35 -0600, John McKown wrote:
I liked this article:
https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2014/12/how-today-s-young-it-talent-different-previous-generations
Where I read:
... For example, one thing I try to do is to have our IT infrastructure
employees trained
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