z/OS WIKI access from a mianframe (TSO)

2014-03-03 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

Is it possible to access the z/OS WIKI from a mainframe application ?
(In this case the user can access the mainframe only via TSO certificates)

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Re: critical (to me): 3494-B10 error messages

2014-03-03 Thread Mike Schwab
Issue command D M=DEV(0609) for z/OS 1.13+
Could be a problem with the fiber or adapter on either end.
Check for a LOGREC at the time the problem started.

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:59 AM, John McKown
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote:
 Our 3494-B10 is messed up. It is shared between two LPARs in a basic
 sysplex with the drives being autoswitchable. The same problem occurred
 last night, but just went away after a couple of hours. We did get the CE
 on site at that time, and have called again. But he was puzzled too.

 The messages we are getting are:

 *IOS002A 0609,NO PATHS AVAILABLE
  IOS2002I 0609 NO PATHS AVAILABLE 850
  STATUS FOR PATH(S) 03
CHANNEL LINK LEVEL FACILITY IN OFFLINE RECEPTION STATE (60)
  IEF880I 0609 NOW OFFLINE BY OAM

 Any wisdom out there that can be shared with me? Oh, what changed?. The
 CE replaced an HBA (SCSI adapter) in the 3494 yesterday. But all the
 diagnostics checked out fine at the time.


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Re: critical (to me): 3494-B10 error messages

2014-03-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
John,  Have you reviewed the following points?

|  First line of text contains the general reason for the
 |  not operative path.
 |  Second line of text, if one exists, contains the specific
 |  reason for the not operative path.

 |  System Action: In most cases, subsequent I/O requests
 |  to the device wait until a path to the device becomes
 |  available. This message is written to SYSLOG only.

 |  Operator Response: An I/O interrupt is required to cause
 |  I/O requests to the device to be retried. Do one of the
 |  following to simulate an I/O interrupt and cause queued
 |  requests to be retried:
 |  .Enter a VARY DEVICE ONLINE command for devn
 |  .Enter a VARY PATH ONLINE command for a path to
 |   device devn
 |  .If a serial fiber is not connected, connect the serial fiber to device 
devn.

I would dump LOGREC and see if any additional info is available.

60: CHANNEL LINK LEVEL FACILITY IN OFFLINE RECEPTION
This is the case when the Channel-to-CU logical path (H/W link-level) has been 
de-established (broken).


Then I would try a new cable to see if the cable is bad.

Lizette


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 Subject: critical (to me): 3494-B10 error messages
 
 Our 3494-B10 is messed up. It is shared between two LPARs in a basic sysplex 
 with
 the drives being autoswitchable. The same problem occurred last night, but 
 just
 went away after a couple of hours. We did get the CE on site at that time, 
 and
 have called again. But he was puzzled too.
 
 The messages we are getting are:
 
 *IOS002A 0609,NO PATHS AVAILABLE
  IOS2002I 0609 NO PATHS AVAILABLE 850
  STATUS FOR PATH(S) 03
CHANNEL LINK LEVEL FACILITY IN OFFLINE RECEPTION STATE (60)
 IEF880I 0609 NOW OFFLINE BY OAM
 
 Any wisdom out there that can be shared with me? Oh, what changed?. The CE
 replaced an HBA (SCSI adapter) in the 3494 yesterday. But all the diagnostics
 checked out fine at the time.
 
 
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Re: critical (to me): 3494-B10 error messages

2014-03-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John McKown wrote:

Our 3494-B10 is messed up. It is shared between two LPARs in a basic sysplex 
with the drives being autoswitchable. The same problem occurred last night, 
but just went away after a couple of hours. We did get the CE on site at 
that time, and have called again. But he was puzzled too.

Puzzled? Come on. That is the first time I see a CE is puzzled. ;-)

The messages we are getting are:
*IOS002A 0609,NO PATHS AVAILABLE
 IOS2002I 0609 NO PATHS AVAILABLE 850
 STATUS FOR PATH(S) 03
   CHANNEL LINK LEVEL FACILITY IN OFFLINE RECEPTION STATE (60)
 IEF880I 0609 NOW OFFLINE BY OAM

From one or both LPARs?

The CE replaced an HBA (SCSI adapter) in the 3494 yesterday. 

At first or second trip? If at first trip [ when the problem appeared the first 
time ], then the CE messed something bad up. As others said, check D M=DEV etc, 
LOGREC and your cables. I would also [arrange to] check the HBA and the box 
where the HBA is residing.

I'm not sure of the cable layout, but check that the cables are plugged 
properly, ie locked in at the correct orientation.

Oh, check your static electrics! Many puzzling hardware errors are coming from 
that.

HTH!

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Enterprise COBOL 5.1 -- TEST compiler option

2014-03-03 Thread Chase, John
Hi, List,

In our DEV environment, currently using Enterprise COBOL v4.2, we specify 
TEST=(NOHOOK,SEPARATE,EJPD), and the compiler inserts 
DEBUGINF=sysdebug.lib.name into a non-executable area of the load module.  
IOW, it's just a pointer to a separate dataset containing the information 
needed by IBM Debug Tool, etc. for interactive debugging.

With the change in Enterprise COBOL v5.1 to produce program objects instead 
of load modules, including the DWARF debug information and (optionally) 
source statements in non-loadable segments of the program object, we are 
curious how others handle the source statements:  Include them in the program 
object (via compiler option TEST=(EJPD,SOURCE)), or maintain them in a separate 
dataset (via compiler option TEST=(EJPD,NOSOURCE), requiring post-processing of 
the compiler listing with EQALANGX to produce the source statement 
information)?  If the latter, how is the program object connected to its 
corresponding source listing?

TIA,

   -jc-

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Re: critical (to me): 3494-B10 error messages

2014-03-03 Thread John McKown
Should any care, the problem turned out to be weird (to me). I was told
that the SSA adapter to the internal disk (3494-B10 uses a some sort of
pSeries w/AIX) was bad. Unfortunately, this type of error is not reported
at all to the z system as anything that we could determine. I guess that
this is the cost of the internals being a closed black box.

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Re: z/OS WIKI access from a mianframe (TSO)

2014-03-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 531475fd.8070...@isis-papyrus.com, on 03/03/2014
   at 01:30 PM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com
said:

Is it possible to access the z/OS WIKI from a mainframe application ?

The real question is whether there is a browser that will run under
TSO and render a z/OS wiki page on a 3270; simple access should not be
an issue.
 
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Re: OCOPY fails to convert text

2014-03-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 60A88FF084694521B417F4096A824778@barryf93b83d71, on 03/01/2014
   at 09:44 PM, retired mainframer retired-mainfra...@q.com said:

Look at the meaning of the convert operand in UNIX System Services
Command Reference.  YES specifies conversion table BPXFX000 which,
unless you have changed it, is an alias for BPXFX111 which converts
between IBM-037 and IBM-1047, both of which are EBCDIC.  You probably
need to specify BPXFX311 which converts between IBM-1047 (EBCDIC)and
ISO8859-1 (ASCII).

ISO 8859-1[1] is Latin 1, not ASCII.

[1] Does IBM have a z/OS code page for ISO 8859-15 yet?
 
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Re: OCOPY fails to convert text

2014-03-03 Thread Mark Yuhas
Thank you for the tip.

However, I had to change the OCOPY statement to:

ocopy indd(filein) outdd(fileout) ,
text convert('sys1.linklib(BPXFX311)') pathopts(use) FROM1047

Without the FROM1047, no conversion.

Curiously, I OCOPYd a simple text file with the new format.  OCOPY did not 
convert.  However, when I reverted to the old format, it converted.

As Alice said, 'Curiouser  curiouser.'


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Re: z/OS WIKI access from a mianframe (TSO)

2014-03-03 Thread John McKown
Ouch! I can imagine such a thing. But it would really only work properly
if the writer of the TSO program is an expert in how to use GDDM in order
to render multiple fonts as well as GIF,  PNG, or JPEG images on a TN3270
emulator which supports GDDM graphs. In my opinion, this is a serious waste
of talent. I don't know what a z/OS WIKI really is. We don't host a Wiki
on z/OS, although I do have a Wiki running on a blech Windows IIS box
which is z/OS oriented (internal use only).

Instead of a Wiki being on z/OS, I (personally) would probably just keep
the Wiki entries in z/OS UNIX files in Markdown format (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown ) Basically markdown is a very
simple, human readable, format for documentation. It's main plus is that if
it is done correctly, it is simple to render into HTML (there are programs
to do this) while being perfectly readable as-is by people.


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:

 In 531475fd.8070...@isis-papyrus.com, on 03/03/2014
at 01:30 PM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com
 said:

 Is it possible to access the z/OS WIKI from a mainframe application ?

 The real question is whether there is a browser that will run under
 TSO and render a z/OS wiki page on a 3270; simple access should not be
 an issue.

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Re: z/OS WIKI access from a mianframe (TSO)

2014-03-03 Thread Kirk Wolf
If you are looking for a nice free z/OS Wiki solution,
http://jspwiki.apache.org/  runs pretty well under Tomcat on z/OS.   I have
heard of several shops that use it to maintain z/OS maintenance info.

We did a SHARE z/OS Tomcat lab years ago (2006-2007) where one of the
exercises was setting up JspWiki.   We have a z/OS-centric Apache Tomcat
package available free from our website:
https://dovetail.com/products/tomcat.html

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 1:23 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ouch! I can imagine such a thing. But it would really only work properly
 if the writer of the TSO program is an expert in how to use GDDM in order
 to render multiple fonts as well as GIF,  PNG, or JPEG images on a TN3270
 emulator which supports GDDM graphs. In my opinion, this is a serious waste
 of talent. I don't know what a z/OS WIKI really is. We don't host a Wiki
 on z/OS, although I do have a Wiki running on a blech Windows IIS box
 which is z/OS oriented (internal use only).

 Instead of a Wiki being on z/OS, I (personally) would probably just keep
 the Wiki entries in z/OS UNIX files in Markdown format (
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown ) Basically markdown is a very
 simple, human readable, format for documentation. It's main plus is that if
 it is done correctly, it is simple to render into HTML (there are programs
 to do this) while being perfectly readable as-is by people.


 On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
 shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:

  In 531475fd.8070...@isis-papyrus.com, on 03/03/2014
 at 01:30 PM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com
  said:
 
  Is it possible to access the z/OS WIKI from a mainframe application ?
 
  The real question is whether there is a browser that will run under
  TSO and render a z/OS wiki page on a 3270; simple access should not be
  an issue.
 
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Re: z/OS WIKI access from a mianframe (TSO)

2014-03-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 13:31:02 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote:

If you are looking for a nice free z/OS Wiki solution,
http://jspwiki.apache.org/  runs pretty well under Tomcat on z/OS.   I have
heard of several shops that use it to maintain z/OS maintenance info.

We did a SHARE z/OS Tomcat lab years ago (2006-2007) where one of the
exercises was setting up JspWiki.   We have a z/OS-centric Apache Tomcat
package available free from our website:
https://dovetail.com/products/tomcat.html
 
Does this use a 327x as a display, or operate as an X11 client with your
choice of server on desktop?

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Re: zFS aggregate growth amount query

2014-03-03 Thread John Compton
Thank you, gents.
The '3420' is the number of 8k blocks for the 36-cylinder 'growth' value
mentioned in the APAR.
I'd created the LDS with CYLS(857,857) and had expected to growth in chunks
of 77130 blocks.
Then in my IOEAGFMT job, I'd originally specified '-size 77130 -grow
77130'.
When I didn't see growth occurring as I'd expected, I played with those two
numbers, but nothing seemed to affect the 3420-block growth size.


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Tom Ambros thomas_amb...@keybank.comwrote:

 Yeah, this is one of the things that has me muttering darkly upon
 occasion.

 The mount parm is AGGRGROW.

 The command is zfsadm grow.  No aggr.

 Thomas Ambros
 Operating Systems and Connectivity Engineering
 518-436-6433





 From:   Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date:   03/03/2014 09:31
 Subject:Re: zFS aggregate growth amount query
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



 There is a currently open APR on ZFS secondary allocation. See OA44214.

 I have always had success w/ zfsadm agggrow -size (final desired size).
 Check the fine manual for syntax. I am sure the above is incorrect.
 snip
 Listcat the zFS.  It is the secondary allocation by default, I do believe.

  You can override this by hand with the zfsadm grow command but if it is
 done as a result of the AGGRGROW parm on the mount it is the secondary
 allocation of the linear VSAM cluster, IIRC.
 /snip

 snip
 I've developed a zFS aggregate  am loading it up with a fairly large
 amount of data.
 I keep on seeing console messages sequences like:

 IOEZ00078E zFS aggregate cluster name exceeds 99% full (1282681/1285920)
 (WARNING)
 IOEZ00312I Dynamic growth of aggregate cluster name in progress, (by
 user ).
 IOEZ00309I Aggregate cluster name successfully dynamically grown (by
 user ).
 IOEZ00078E zFS aggregate cluster name exceeds 99% full (1285920/1289160)
 (WARNING)

 My question is with regard to the amount that the aggregate has grown by.
 The difference between the '1285920' and '1289160' is 3240 - presumably
 that is # 8k-byte blocks, but available documentation appears to be
 woefully inadequate.
 Who defines that '3420'? I certainly didn't specify it when creating the
 cluster, nor with any parm value when formatting it with IOEAGFMT. When I
 look at either IOEFSPRM or IOEPRMxx, all I see is a bunch of comment
 lines.
 /snip

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Re: z/OS WIKI access from a mianframe (TSO)

2014-03-03 Thread Mike Schwab
Lynx runs under Unix System Services (z/Unix).

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
 In 531475fd.8070...@isis-papyrus.com, on 03/03/2014
at 01:30 PM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com
 said:

Is it possible to access the z/OS WIKI from a mainframe application ?

 The real question is whether there is a browser that will run under
 TSO and render a z/OS wiki page on a 3270; simple access should not be
 an issue.

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Re: z/OS WIKI access from a mianframe (TSO)

2014-03-03 Thread Jon Perryman
You could try the Wikipedia XML interface to extract data thru the internet. If 
that doesn't provide the functionality you need, then Wikipedia, mediawiki and 
probably other products have WIKI API's. See if one of those API's is 
compatible with z/OS and provides the information you need.

Jon Perryman.


- Original Message -
 From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net

    at 01:30 PM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com
 said:
 
 Is it possible to access the z/OS WIKI from a mainframe application ?
 
 The real question is whether there is a browser that will run under
 TSO and render a z/OS wiki page on a 3270; simple access should not be
 an issue.


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Re: z/OS WIKI access from a mianframe (TSO)

2014-03-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-03-03 13:30, Jousma, David wrote:
 We run it.  Accessed via Web browser.
 
Yes, but is that Web browser runing on the mainframe?  If not,
how is this considered access from a mianframe?

I suppose this depends on the sense of the ambiguous prepositional
adverb from, left ambiguous by the OP.  Either:

I can view the Orion Nebula from my back yard, or:

Observing in my backyard, I can view light from the Orion Nebula.

Likwise:

I can view a WIKI as I work from a mainframe, or:

Viewing elsewhere, I can view a WIKI served by a mainframe.

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin

 Does this use a 327x as a display, or operate as an X11 client with your 
 choice of server on desktop?

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Re: OCOPY fails to convert text

2014-03-03 Thread retired mainframer
:: -Original Message-
:: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
:: Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
:: Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 3:31 PM
:: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
:: Subject: Re: OCOPY fails to convert text
::
:: In 60A88FF084694521B417F4096A824778@barryf93b83d71, on 03/01/2014
::at 09:44 PM, retired mainframer retired-mainfra...@q.com said:
::
:: Look at the meaning of the convert operand in UNIX System Services
:: Command Reference.  YES specifies conversion table BPXFX000 which,
:: unless you have changed it, is an alias for BPXFX111 which converts
:: between IBM-037 and IBM-1047, both of which are EBCDIC.  You probably
:: need to specify BPXFX311 which converts between IBM-1047 (EBCDIC)and
:: ISO8859-1 (ASCII).
::
:: ISO 8859-1[1] is Latin 1, not ASCII.

From the UNIX Systems Services Command Reference:  BPXFX311. Specifies an
ASCII-EBCDIC conversion table to convert between code pages ISO8859-1 and
IBM-1047.

It doesn't matter what the official title of ISO 8859-1 is.  For getting
OCOPY to perform the desired conversion, it only matters that IBM uses it to
mean to ASCII.

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Re: OCOPY fails to convert text

2014-03-03 Thread Tony Harminc
On 2 March 2014 18:30, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
 [1] Does IBM have a z/OS code page for ISO 8859-15 yet?

IBM has produced only two code pages for Latin-9; one ASCIIish (923)
and one EBCDIC (924).

Tony H.

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Re: z/OS WIKI access from a mianframe (TSO)

2014-03-03 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 03/03/2014 11:27 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
 In 531475fd.8070...@isis-papyrus.com, on 03/03/2014
at 01:30 PM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com
 said:

 Is it possible to access the z/OS WIKI from a mainframe application ?
 The real question is whether there is a browser that will run under
 TSO and render a z/OS wiki page on a 3270; simple access should not be
 an issue.
  
I see no reason to require that there be a browser that would run under
TSO to display the documentation on a 3270.  I can't imagine running
z/OS these days without TCP/IP connectivity, especially since TSO 3270
access these days usually uses a 3270 emulator on a workstation platform
and TN3270 over TCP/IP, and if workstation browser access to a mainframe
web server is broken, TSO access is probably dead also.  Even at our DR
exercises LAN connectivity to laptops and desktops was always available
early in the game. 

Copies of any documentation needed to get z/OS and TCP/IP up should
always be in some form (memory sticks, smart phones, CD/DVD, external
hard drives, or in hard copy) where it can be accessed without z/OS.  It
makes sense to keep the authoritative current documentation for z/OS on
the z/OS platform itself, but this doesn't preclude keeping copies on
alternate media/platforms and in forms that are adequate to get z/OS
with TCP/IP up and functional.  Once z/OS is functional, it makes no
sense to disallow or not require that browsers on other platforms better
suited to rendering graphics and decent fonts  be the mode of access.

If the desire is to keep all that documentation in a wiki database on
z/OS, there are surely utilities that can export the wiki database from
z/OS in some form that would satisfy the emergency availability
requirements.  For that matter it probably wouldn't be that difficult
with a laptop running some flavor of Linux to configure it to run a web
server with wiki support and provide for it to re-sync its database to
the z/OS wiki database with appropriate frequency.

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Re: z/OS WIKI access from a mianframe (TSO)

2014-03-03 Thread Kirk Wolf
Sorry Gil,  I was following list standards and throwing out information
that didn't really answer the OP's question :-)

JspWiki (and all Wikis that I am aware of) are HTML / web applications.   I
don't know of a web browser client that runs under TSO (or why that is an
idea worth consideration :-)

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:

 On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 13:31:02 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote:

 If you are looking for a nice free z/OS Wiki solution,
 http://jspwiki.apache.org/  runs pretty well under Tomcat on z/OS.   I
 have
 heard of several shops that use it to maintain z/OS maintenance info.
 
 We did a SHARE z/OS Tomcat lab years ago (2006-2007) where one of the
 exercises was setting up JspWiki.   We have a z/OS-centric Apache Tomcat
 package available free from our website:
 https://dovetail.com/products/tomcat.html
 
 Does this use a 327x as a display, or operate as an X11 client with your
 choice of server on desktop?

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Re: OCOPY fails to convert text

2014-03-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 14:32:43 -0800, retired mainframer wrote:
::
:: ISO 8859-1[1] is Latin 1, not ASCII.

From the UNIX Systems Services Command Reference:  BPXFX311. Specifies an
ASCII-EBCDIC conversion table to convert between code pages ISO8859-1 and
IBM-1047.

It doesn't matter what the official title of ISO 8859-1 is.  For getting
OCOPY to perform the desired conversion, it only matters that IBM uses it to
mean to ASCII.
 
Well, Shmuel, pedantically and characteristically, is insisting that ASCII
means precisely a 7-bit character set (even as USS does not mean UNIX
System Services).

But, is there a convenient alternative collective term designating those
8-bit character sets in which 'A' is 0x41; '0' is 0x30, etc.?  Perhaps Shmuel
can, in a more constructive mode, suggest one.  Does ISO Latin include
ISO8859-x (and some Windows-peculiar character sets) and exclude
IBM-1047?

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Re: z/OS WIKI access from a mianframe (TSO)

2014-03-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 16:59:53 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote:

Sorry Gil,  I was following list standards and throwing out information
that didn't really answer the OP's question :-)
 
Thanks.  We need more adherence to standards.

JspWiki (and all Wikis that I am aware of) are HTML / web applications.   I
don't know of a web browser client that runs under TSO (or why that is an
idea worth consideration :-)
 
Lynx (mentioned earlier).  Was a coding exercise for me (and a reaffirmation
that EBCDIC is a PITA.  Has anyone else taken up the banner?)

Lynx is Javascript-ignorant; code page restricted, and requires plugins for any
graphics or audio resources.  May be practical on other platforms; surely not
on z/OS.  It interfaces nicely (nichely?) to Braille and audio output devices.

And, it interfaces nicely to the moribund Publibz and LOOKAT.


On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 16:37:56 -0600, Joel C. Ewing wrote:

On 03/03/2014 11:27 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
at 01:30 PM, Miklos Szigetvari said:

 Is it possible to access the z/OS WIKI from a mainframe application ?
 The real question is whether there is a browser that will run under
 TSO and render a z/OS wiki page on a 3270; simple access should not be
 an issue.
 
Shmuel was simply taking a plausible, though less likely, interpretation of
the OP's question.

I see no reason to require that there be a browser that would run under
TSO to display the documentation on a 3270.  I can't imagine running
z/OS these days without TCP/IP connectivity, especially since TSO 3270
access these days usually uses a 3270 emulator on a workstation platform
and TN3270 over TCP/IP, and if workstation browser access to a mainframe
web server is broken, TSO access is probably dead also.  Even at our DR
exercises LAN connectivity to laptops and desktops was always available
early in the game.
 
Some of our test systems are so limited; I don't know whether for economic
or other reasons.  I have needed to move data sets to them via shared DASD
because FTP is unavailable.  Terminal access may be available via VTAM.

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ISPF storage protection

2014-03-03 Thread Douglas P Ewen
Hello,

I have a product that uses ISPF panels to allow the user to specify control 
information for the product.
This control information is turned into a control block and then passed(XCTL) 
to a program that attempts to add the control
block to a queue which resides in storage key=7.  Although I have APF 
authorized the program that tries to update the que, I cannot get into a key=7 
using the MODESET SVC.  The MODESET SVC fails with system completion code=047.
Is there anyway to allow a program to successfully issue the MODESET SVC under 
ISPF?

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Re: ISPF storage protection

2014-03-03 Thread Micheal Butz
Is your program in a APF authorized library link edit with AC=1

You can also use the SPKA instruction if the The only thing you desire to do is 
change the PSW storage key


Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 3, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Douglas P Ewen dpe...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have a product that uses ISPF panels to allow the user to specify control 
 information for the product.
 This control information is turned into a control block and then passed(XCTL) 
 to a program that attempts to add the control
 block to a queue which resides in storage key=7.  Although I have APF 
 authorized the program that tries to update the que, I cannot get into a 
 key=7 using the MODESET SVC.  The MODESET SVC fails with system completion 
 code=047.
 Is there anyway to allow a program to successfully issue the MODESET SVC 
 under ISPF?
 
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Re: ISPF storage protection

2014-03-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:05:29 -0500, Micheal Butz wrote:

Is your program in a APF authorized library link edit with AC=1

You can also use the SPKA instruction if the The only thing you desire to do 
is change the PSW storage key
 
Additionally: see:


http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/topic/com.ibm.zos.r12.ikjb400/usmi.htm

to run authorized under TSO, a program must be named in the AUTHPGM NAMES( ... )
section of SYS1.PARMLIB(IKJTSOxx).  ISPF may impose further constraints.

I have no idea why APF authorized library and link edit with AC=1 alone don't 
suffice.

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Re: ISPF storage protection

2014-03-03 Thread Micheal Butz
Paul

Now that you bought it up I think ISPF has a table ISPTCM where you specify 
authorized command it's in the ISPF customization guide

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 3, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
 
 On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:05:29 -0500, Micheal Butz wrote:
 
 Is your program in a APF authorized library link edit with AC=1
 
 You can also use the SPKA instruction if the The only thing you desire to do 
 is change the PSW storage key
 Additionally: see:
 

 http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/topic/com.ibm.zos.r12.ikjb400/usmi.htm
 
 to run authorized under TSO, a program must be named in the AUTHPGM NAMES( 
 ... )
 section of SYS1.PARMLIB(IKJTSOxx).  ISPF may impose further constraints.
 
 I have no idea why APF authorized library and link edit with AC=1 alone don't 
 suffice.
 
 -- gil
 
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Re: ISPF storage protection

2014-03-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:21:20 -0500, Micheal Butz wrote:

Now that you bought it up I think ISPF has a table ISPTCM where you specify 
authorized command it's in the ISPF customization guide

Hmmm.  Didn't know about that.  I see:


http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/topic/com.ibm.zos.r12.f54pc00/isptcm.htm
 
...
ENTRY
Parameter values are as follows:
ENTNAME
A valid TSO command name. This operand is required for ENTRY calls. The 
alphabetic characters in ENTNAME must be in uppercase letters. Duplicate entry 
names cause an error message to be issued. 

Sounds like a command processor.  Command processors are subtly
different from ordinary programs, although I believe either is found
in the STEPLIB/TASKLIB/ISPLLIB concatenation.

 On Mar 3, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
 On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:05:29 -0500, Micheal Butz wrote:

 Is your program in a APF authorized library link edit with AC=1

 You can also use the SPKA instruction if the The only thing you desire to 
 do is change the PSW storage key

OP was trying for KEY 7.  That may be harder.

 Additionally: see:


 http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/topic/com.ibm.zos.r12.ikjb400/usmi.htm

 to run authorized under TSO, a program must be named in the AUTHPGM NAMES( 
 ... )
 section of SYS1.PARMLIB(IKJTSOxx).  ISPF may impose further constraints.

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Re: ISPF storage protection

2014-03-03 Thread Micheal Butz
The X'20' bit has to be set ?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 3, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
 
 On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:21:20 -0500, Micheal Butz wrote:
 
 Now that you bought it up I think ISPF has a table ISPTCM where you specify 
 authorized command it's in the ISPF customization guide
 Hmmm.  Didn't know about that.  I see:
 

 http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/topic/com.ibm.zos.r12.f54pc00/isptcm.htm
  
...
 ENTRY
Parameter values are as follows:
ENTNAME
A valid TSO command name. This operand is required for ENTRY calls. 
 The alphabetic characters in ENTNAME must be in uppercase letters. Duplicate 
 entry names cause an error message to be issued. 
 
 Sounds like a command processor.  Command processors are subtly
 different from ordinary programs, although I believe either is found
 in the STEPLIB/TASKLIB/ISPLLIB concatenation.
 
 On Mar 3, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
 On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:05:29 -0500, Micheal Butz wrote:
 
 Is your program in a APF authorized library link edit with AC=1
 
 You can also use the SPKA instruction if the The only thing you desire to 
 do is change the PSW storage key
 
 OP was trying for KEY 7.  That may be harder.
 
 Additionally: see:
 
   
 http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/topic/com.ibm.zos.r12.ikjb400/usmi.htm
 
 to run authorized under TSO, a program must be named in the AUTHPGM NAMES( 
 ... )
 section of SYS1.PARMLIB(IKJTSOxx).  ISPF may impose further constraints.
 
 --gil
 
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Re: ISPF storage protection

2014-03-03 Thread dpewen
Yes ... SPKA requires SUP state



 From: Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: ISPF storage protection
 

Is your program in a APF authorized library link edit with AC=1

You can also use the SPKA instruction if the The only thing you desire to do is 
change the PSW storage key


Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 3, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Douglas P Ewen dpe...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have a product that uses ISPF panels to allow the user to specify control 
 information for the product.
 This control information is turned into a control block and then passed(XCTL) 
 to a program that attempts to add the control
 block to a queue which resides in storage key=7.  Although I have APF 
 authorized the program that tries to update the que, I cannot get into a 
 key=7 using the MODESET SVC.  The MODESET SVC fails with system completion 
 code=047.
 Is there anyway to allow a program to successfully issue the MODESET SVC 
 under ISPF?
 
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Re: ISPF storage protection

2014-03-03 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 18:14:00 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:

On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:05:29 -0500, Micheal Butz wrote:

Is your program in a APF authorized library link edit with AC=1

You can also use the SPKA instruction if the The only thing you desire to do 
is change the PSW storage key
 
Additionally: see:


 http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/topic/com.ibm.zos.r12.ikjb400/usmi.htm

to run authorized under TSO, a program must be named in the AUTHPGM NAMES( ... 
)
section of SYS1.PARMLIB(IKJTSOxx).  ISPF may impose further constraints.

I have no idea why APF authorized library and link edit with AC=1 alone don't 
suffice.

In part because, depending on what the APF-authorized program does, it can be 
dangerous to allow it to run under TSO, or dangerous to allow it to run with 
certain forms of parameter list. 

And, I think, in part for performance. If a program is not in the table then 
the TMP does not need to figure out whether the program is in an APF-authorized 
library and linked AC(1), it can simply invoke it using ATTACH or LINK, without 
needing to setup the special protections needed for running APF-authorized 
programs under TSO.

And in part for function, since a program invoked in the method required for 
APF-authorized programs is in some ways limited in what it can do (it can't 
interact with ISPF, for example, without special coding in the program).

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Re: ISPF storage protection

2014-03-03 Thread Micheal Butz
That is exactly right if you are running an ISPF program e.g. One that used DM 
services 
It's best to be in problem state while issuing the DM service 

Being in supervisor whine issuing DM services causes problems

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 3, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 18:14:00 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:05:29 -0500, Micheal Butz wrote:
 
 Is your program in a APF authorized library link edit with AC=1
 
 You can also use the SPKA instruction if the The only thing you desire to 
 do is change the PSW storage key
 Additionally: see:
 
   
 http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/topic/com.ibm.zos.r12.ikjb400/usmi.htm
 
 to run authorized under TSO, a program must be named in the AUTHPGM NAMES( 
 ... )
 section of SYS1.PARMLIB(IKJTSOxx).  ISPF may impose further constraints.
 
 I have no idea why APF authorized library and link edit with AC=1 alone 
 don't suffice.
 
 In part because, depending on what the APF-authorized program does, it can be 
 dangerous to allow it to run under TSO, or dangerous to allow it to run with 
 certain forms of parameter list. 
 
 And, I think, in part for performance. If a program is not in the table then 
 the TMP does not need to figure out whether the program is in an 
 APF-authorized library and linked AC(1), it can simply invoke it using ATTACH 
 or LINK, without needing to setup the special protections needed for running 
 APF-authorized programs under TSO.
 
 And in part for function, since a program invoked in the method required for 
 APF-authorized programs is in some ways limited in what it can do (it can't 
 interact with ISPF, for example, without special coding in the program).
 
 -- 
 Walt
 
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Re: ISPF storage protection

2014-03-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 20:25:40 -0500, Micheal Butz wrote:

That is exactly right if you are running an ISPF program e.g. One that used DM 
services
It's best to be in problem state while issuing the DM service

Being in supervisor whine issuing DM services causes problems
 
I would hope that anyone who codes a program to issue DM services and
links it AC=1 into an authorized library would take suitable steps to ensure
system integrity.


 On Mar 3, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Walt Farrell wrote:
 ...
 I have no idea why APF authorized library and link edit with AC=1 alone 
 don't suffice.

 In part because, depending on what the APF-authorized program does, it can 
 be dangerous to allow it to run under TSO, or dangerous to allow it to run 
 with certain forms of parameter list.
 
Aha!  The difference between a JCL-style PARM and the CPPL.  But I see there's
an AUTHCMD section of IKJTSOxx to take care of that.  I see little need for 
AUTHPGM.
But ...

 And, I think, in part for performance. If a program is not in the table then 
 the TMP does not need to figure out whether the program is in an 
 APF-authorized library and linked AC(1), it can simply invoke it using 
 ATTACH or LINK, without needing to setup the special protections needed for 
 running APF-authorized programs under TSO.
 
Nearly pointless.  There are numerous ways to waste resources without APF 
authorization.

 And in part for function, since a program invoked in the method required for 
 APF-authorized programs is in some ways limited in what it can do (it can't 
 interact with ISPF, for example, without special coding in the program).
 
In which case, it simply fails.  Does this threaten system integrity?  See my 
first
remark above.  I can't imagine why someone would APF-authorize a program
which interacts with ISPF without such special coding.

-- gil

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Re: OCOPY fails to convert text

2014-03-03 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
GIYF.  I refer you to these Wikipedia references, the first of which makes it 
quite clear that iso-8859-1 is definitely NOT Windows, though it does call it 
ASCII-based; and the second of which is a nice reference for IBM-1047, from 
which you can see that there is a reasonable chance to convert between the two 
encodings, though not completely transparently, whatever IBM chooses to call 
the iso-8859-1 encoding.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBCDIC_1047

HTH

Peter

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Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 6:08 PM
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Subject: Re: OCOPY fails to convert text

On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 14:32:43 -0800, retired mainframer wrote:
::
:: ISO 8859-1[1] is Latin 1, not ASCII.

From the UNIX Systems Services Command Reference:  BPXFX311. Specifies an
ASCII-EBCDIC conversion table to convert between code pages ISO8859-1 and
IBM-1047.

It doesn't matter what the official title of ISO 8859-1 is.  For getting
OCOPY to perform the desired conversion, it only matters that IBM uses it to
mean to ASCII.
 
Well, Shmuel, pedantically and characteristically, is insisting that ASCII
means precisely a 7-bit character set (even as USS does not mean UNIX
System Services).

But, is there a convenient alternative collective term designating those
8-bit character sets in which 'A' is 0x41; '0' is 0x30, etc.?  Perhaps Shmuel
can, in a more constructive mode, suggest one.  Does ISO Latin include
ISO8859-x (and some Windows-peculiar character sets) and exclude
IBM-1047?

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Re: ISPF storage protection

2014-03-03 Thread Mike La Martina
Homework posted.

Not due till Friday.

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Paul

Now that you bought it up I think ISPF has a table ISPTCM where you specify
authorized command it's in the ISPF customization guide

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 3, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
 
 On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:05:29 -0500, Micheal Butz wrote:
 
 Is your program in a APF authorized library link edit with AC=1
 
 You can also use the SPKA instruction if the The only thing you 
 desire to do is change the PSW storage key
 Additionally: see:
 

 http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/topic/com.ibm.zos.r12.ikjb
 400/usmi.htm
 
 to run authorized under TSO, a program must be named in the AUTHPGM 
 NAMES( ... ) section of SYS1.PARMLIB(IKJTSOxx).  ISPF may impose further
constraints.
 
 I have no idea why APF authorized library and link edit with AC=1 alone
don't suffice.
 
 -- gil
 
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Re: ISPF storage protection

2014-03-03 Thread Mike La Martina
Sorry off topic posts.

I do not know why this some  posts are going to IBM Main.

I am trying to reply to my students.

Mike

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Homework posted.

Not due till Friday.

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Paul

Now that you bought it up I think ISPF has a table ISPTCM where you specify
authorized command it's in the ISPF customization guide

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 3, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
 
 On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:05:29 -0500, Micheal Butz wrote:
 
 Is your program in a APF authorized library link edit with AC=1
 
 You can also use the SPKA instruction if the The only thing you 
 desire to do is change the PSW storage key
 Additionally: see:
 

 http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/topic/com.ibm.zos.r12.ikjb
 400/usmi.htm
 
 to run authorized under TSO, a program must be named in the AUTHPGM 
 NAMES( ... ) section of SYS1.PARMLIB(IKJTSOxx).  ISPF may impose 
 further
constraints.
 
 I have no idea why APF authorized library and link edit with AC=1 
 alone
don't suffice.
 
 -- gil
 
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