Hello Shane, thanks, we thought about that. This shop has a test and
development LPARs with some tape drives already presented.
Hi Ed, we'll have a look at he EREP.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote:
Sometimes EREP data can provide enough to distinguish
Hi
Maybe the PFA can help us, but I don't know how :
We have a long running USS process, so called stress test.After some
hours, stops to use CPU or any resource, and after
about an hour wait , running normal again. The problem is , that this
slow down occurs in the night, or early in the
If you use ADRDSSU to backup OMVS files, the files are quiesced during
the backup.
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Miklos Szigetvari
miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote:
Hi
Maybe the PFA can help us, but I don't know how :
We have a long running USS process, so called stress
Thank you, we know this and we have some alerts during this
quiesce period, but this slow down is not during backup.
On 16.04.2014 10:00, Mike Schwab wrote:
If you use ADRDSSU to backup OMVS files, the files are quiesced during
the backup.
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Miklos
Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
we have some alerts during this quiesce period, but this slow down is not
during backup.
How in the first place do you see the slow down? Perhaps your reply could
yield a good answer to you question.
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
The CPU usage for the process , address space , drops from about
70% to 0%, the process writes to some log files ,
100-300 message pro minute, in this period no message in this logs.
On 16.04.2014 10:20, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
we have some alerts during
Hello,
I need help sorting some 5000 lines based on the first entry in a CSV - IP
address. When sorting, I need the whole record to be involved in the sort, not
just the IP's.
Sample data:
IP,MAC,Make-Model,SEPINFO,Type,Ping,Status,Printer,GRPNAME Warehouse
#,Warehouse Name,Warehouse
Hello Group,
I was getting the below error while allocating ZFS, I understand that VSAM
has a limit of 4GB and the below allocation is more than 4GB. We have not
defined a DATACLAS to honour allocation more than 4GB. Is there a other way
to allocate 4G of VSAM without having a dataclas ?
IDCAMS
While not a MF solution, there is a add-in available for Excel called IP Tools
for Excel' that has a function that will allow you to sort IP addresses
correctly. You can get it at http://checkthenetwork.com/ip-tools-for-excel
There is a free trial period and then you need to pay $34.95 for a
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 17:37:55 -0400, Ed Finnell wrote:
Sometimes EREP data can provide enough to distinguish the stomper from
the stompees. Active PSW REGs and a few lines of failing module can be enough
to see where it started.
EREP is one of my go to tools - always has been.
Only recently
First thing to do is check what the result of INREC looks like. Second is
to consider ICETOOL DATASORT to avoid sorting the header / trailer (or
else use OUTFIL to recreate them.
Cheers, Martin
From: Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
vignesh.v.sankaranaraya...@marks-and-spencer.com
To:
Shane Ginnane wrote:
EREP is one of my go to tools - always has been.
Indeed. That invention called 'EREP' is a gem. That is one live museum piece
still in production for obvious reasons.
Only recently I've seen it log 1300 abends in DB2 in less than 3 seconds.
Funny how it's always DB2 ...
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 09:01:28 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote:
I need help sorting some 5000 lines based on the first entry in a CSV - IP
address. When sorting, I need the whole record to be involved in the sort, not
just the IP's.
I long ago gave up trying to decipher the runes to make
Thanks for your inputs, Shane and Martin.
Shane,
We don't have a zLinux instance to pop over to.
Plus, when the sorting is done in Excel, it takes 5 seconds. But I want the
data to go out right from the mainframe.
Besides, I will be looking for the next available IP in the last octet based on
Hello All,
I am looking for some possibility of issuing a MVS command On every Month
of 1st week.
Its like : /I DEL on every 2nd of Each Month.
I am trying to search under JES2 Time command but not able to get a right
syntax.
Could someone please point me to the right command or any new
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 06:21:09 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Only recently I've seen it log 1300 abends in DB2 in less than 3 seconds.
Funny how it's always DB2 ...
Just curious, if you don't mind please: What abends? What type of abend? Are
they just repeated or are each unique?
Sorry
Jake,
JES2 automatic commands let you schedule a command on a number hours and
minutes after last midnight. So you can schedule for today or any day in the
future, just calculate how many hours and minutes after last midnight you want
the command to be executed. T=36.00 is noon tomorrow.
For
Shane Ginnane wrote:
Sorry mate, can't help. Being an itinerant, I am no longer at that site.
Nevermind, I was just curious. I see sometimes 'interesting' abends during
upgrade times. Everything is working 100% during testing, then at production
rollout - POOF! ABEND ABEND - then fallback. At
You ought to be able to do the +1 in DFSORT, by the way. In case that
changes the problem into a better one. :-)
Cheers, Martin
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Jake anderson wrote:
I am looking for some possibility of issuing a MVS command On every Month of
1st week.
Its like : /I DEL on every 2nd of Each Month.
'I DEL'? What is that? 'I SMF', yes, but DEL?
I am trying to search under JES2 Time command but not able to get a right
syntax.
Did you
Simple answer: No. If you have _any_ VSAM data set to grow beyond 4Gigs,
you must assign a DATACLAS which has Extended Addressing. The default,
which cannot be changed, is no extended addressing.
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Christian D christianfe...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello Group,
I was
I am looking for some possibility of issuing a MVS command On every Month of
1st week.
Go to the Cole Software website (www.colesoft.com) and download SCHEDRUN. It's
free. I think that it's technically unsupported but Dave Cole has always been
good about maintaining it. It only works with
JAVA garbage collection?
snip
The CPU usage for the process , address space , drops from about 70% to
0%, the process writes to some log files ,
100-300 message pro minute, in this period no message in this logs.
On 16.04.2014 10:20, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
*NO*
snip
I was getting the below error while allocating ZFS, I understand that VSAM has
a limit of 4GB and the below allocation is more than 4GB. We have not defined a
DATACLAS to honour allocation more than 4GB. Is there a other way to allocate
4G of VSAM without having a dataclas ?
IDCAMS
Do you see anything else burning up the processor during this slowdown time?
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Thank you sir. Is it possible to alter the existing Data clas to address
the extended format ? Will there be any impact to the existing Datasets ?
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.comwrote:
*NO*
snip
I was getting the below error while allocating ZFS, I
Automation products, such as CA-OPS/MVS, usually have Time Of Day rules
which could be used to do this. Or you might have a scheduling package such
as CA-7 which could schedule a batch job on the 2nd of each month. This
batch job would issue the z/OS operator command. Or, going way left field,
you
Yes, you can alter an existing DATACLAS to have the Extended Addressing
attribute. HOWEVER! This does not affect _any_ existing data sets. It only
affect _NEW_ allocations. Every DATACLAS we have in our house has Extended
Addressing set. We have not noticed any impact from doing this. We did this
Can the PFA help here , or any other idea how we can detect this ?
Try RMF Monitor III. It maintains history so that you can look at the system
and the work that was running (or stalling) in the past. Just allocate large
collection datasets so that the data is still there in the morning.
Bob
1) Yes you can alter the existing DATACLAS to support extended addressability
2) Existing datasets will not be affected until recreated, and even then,
*maybe*
An extract from my extended dataclas:
Data Set Name Type . . . . . : EXTENDED
If Extended . . . . . . . . :
I mostly use EREP for finding errors in devices, tapes or tape drives. Your
comments have just open a brand new world of possibilities
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
Shane Ginnane wrote:
Sorry mate, can't help. Being an itinerant,
I plan to implement that in a separate REXX program.
For now, it would be swell if I could get this -sorted-. Hah.
- Vignesh
Mainframe Admin
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Possibly the DFSORT INREC PARSE= feature might be usable to create your
static-length, zone-decimal value field for the sort of a 'typical' IP address
data-string in your CSV-format file.
Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.
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Others have offered diagnostic suggestions, but to respond to your
original query: PFA monitors a number of things, but time used CPU per
address space is not among them. For a list of PFA's checks, see
Chapter 9 in z/OS Problem Management (the 2.1 version is here:
See the ESTAE, ESTAEX, and SETRP macros in the System Services books for more
info, but here is the operative part:
If you specify RECORD=YES, the system records the entire
SDWA (including the fixed length base, the variable length recording area, and
the recordable extensions) in
John et al;
You say that EVERY DATACLAS you have is set to Extended Addressing? Man,
we must have screwed something up when we tried that. On our sandbox, we
created all of our DATACLAS to have Extended Addressing, and quite a few
different things broke. Temporary datasets, Recovery
Have you got multiple periods in the associated WLM Service Class?
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The CPU
Anyone making heavy use of IBM APA (vs. Strobe)? I've used it a bit, and it
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Hi all,
Rob Scott's approach = Jackpot:
(2) The ISV product exit is attempting to notify its associated server
via a cross-memory post using an ASCB address stored somewhere in common
storage.
(3) It is possible your ISV product has terminated without cleaning up,
leaving behind the exit and
Yup.
I used this but the file gets all messed up. I'm sure it's not the right SYSIN
for what I need to do.
INREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=INIT,
PARSE=(%01=(ENDBEFR=C'.',FIXLEN=3),
%02=(ENDBEFR=C'.',FIXLEN=3),
%03=(ENDBEFR=C'.',FIXLEN=3),
%04=(FIXLEN=3)),
O.k. so no PFA for this.
It is a test machine, so during the complete stress test, this was the
only active process, so no WLM or something like this.
Monitored with RMF and the system CPU also dropped to a few percent.
Seems to me , the process is in wait , I would like to get DUMP's and
Can you show us a sample of input data and of data before it's sorted i.e
after the INREC?
Thanks, Martin
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I have both extended data set format and extended addressability (which is
different) set in out default data class. There is no problem with extended
addressability that I know of, which is what the OP was asking about, but there
are several issues with extended data set format, as you said:
Ah, so maybe we (I didn't actually set it up, just noticed it was broken)
had set the Extended Format. Hmmm, this is good to know. Maybe I can
re-address this then.
Thanks;
Nathan Pfister
zOS Systems Programmer
AES\PHEAA - Tech Services
npfis...@aessuccess.org
(717) 720-2663
From: Peter
Just a few of questions
1) is the file being shipped from MF to PC or PC to MF as CSV?
2) Does the sort need to be done on the MF?
3) If the data will be in Excel - why not do the sort there?
4) What version of Excel?
You have been given a lot of good suggestions. However, a better
Thinking about this...can you have Extended Addressibility without EXT? I
didn't think you could, and a quick glance at the documentation is telling
me that I can't. Am I missing something?
Thanks;
Nathan Pfister
zOS Systems Programmer
AES\PHEAA - Tech Services
npfis...@aessuccess.org
(717)
Hi Lizette,
Here are the answers -
1) is the file being shipped from MF to PC or PC to MF as CSV?
From MF to PC
2) Does the sort need to be done on the MF?
Yes please
3) If the data will be in Excel - why not do the sort there?
I need to do another unrelated process (REXX) on the sorted data on
I have a question for you, I believe you had stated before that there is
additional information on each record following the IP address, so with your
INREC statement, should you not have also coded for %04 a ENDBEFR= option to
end that field? So wouldn't you code:
INREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=INIT,
This thread is giving me a bit of trouble.
An IPA is internally a four-byte unsigned binary integer. By
convention it is formatted externally as a sequence of four unsigned
decimal integers separated by dots and with 'insignificant' leading,
leftmost zeros suppressed. Each byte can of course
I should have. Problem is, I haven't coded for DFSORT much.
:)
- Vignesh
Mainframe Admin
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Subject: Re: Sorting
You can't have extended addressability without EXT, but you can have EXT
without extended addressability.
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:14:31 -0400, Nathan J Pfister npfis...@aessuccess.org
wrote:
Thinking about this...can you have Extended Addressibility without EXT? I
didn't think you could, and a
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:26:17 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
InN order to make it sortable lexicographically just one operation is
required: any and all short, less that three-digit, byte values need
to be padded out on the left to three digits with zeros.
Be quite careful doing that. I once did
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 09:01:28 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote:
Hello,
I need help sorting some 5000 lines based on the first entry in a CSV - IP
address. When sorting, I need the whole record to be involved in the sort, not
just the IP's.
Sample data:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:17:42 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote:
It's FB.
- Vignesh
Mainframe Admin
With LRECL=133 try:
INREC PARSE=(%01=(ENDBEFR=C'.',FIXLEN=3),
%02=(ENDBEFR=C'.',FIXLEN=3),
%03=(ENDBEFR=C'.',FIXLEN=3),
•SAS 9.3(available July 2011)supports all EAV features.
Barry Merrill
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Thanks for the info, Barry.
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Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote:
Hello,
I need help sorting some 5000 lines based on the first entry in a CSV - IP
address. When sorting, I need the whole record to be involved in the sort, not
just the IP's.
Sample data:
IP,MAC,Make-Model,SEPINFO,Type,Ping,Status,Printer,GRPNAME Warehouse
JES2 automatic commands let you schedule a command on a number hours and
minutes after last midnight. So you can schedule for today or any day in
the future, just calculate how many hours and minutes after last midnight you
want the command to be executed. T=36.00 is noon tomorrow.
For scheduling
Vignesh,
The following DFSORT/ICETOOL JCL will give you the desired results. I
assumed that you have 1 header record which you want to retain as is
//STEP0100 EXEC PGM=ICETOOL
//TOOLMSG DD SYSOUT=*
//DFSMSG DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD *
For those that love FDR like I do, you may have seen a complaint of mine
in the past that there was no support for zFS quiesce. Even though the
interface was the exact same as for HFS, FDR must have been checking
the file type and not not quiescing zFS.My cloning jobs had a zfsadm
quiesce
Agreed.
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On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 12:39 +, Bob Shannon wrote:
I am looking for some possibility of issuing a MVS command On every Month
of 1st week.
Go to the Cole Software website (www.colesoft.com) and download SCHEDRUN.
I'll second Bob's recommendation. We've used it here for well over 25
If the data is processed by a REXX routine after the sort anyway,
why not do this transformation before the sort with another REXX routine?
Should be a piece of cake ...
Then the sort ...
and if the leading zeroes indeed need to be removed again, you can do this
in the REXX routine which runs
Bernd,
The REXX processing after sort is not as much a transformation as it is a
search for the next available value from an IP block.
- Vignesh
Mainframe admin
On Apr 16, 2014 6:24:08 PM, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de wrote:
If the data is processed by a REXX routine after the
Vignesh,
Did you try the JCL which I showed? It should give the desired results. If
you are NOT getting the results, then please show me a sample of input and
I will show you how it can be done.
Bernd,
DFSORT has rich parsing and editing capability that you can parse the IP
address and pad
I double checked. There are _some_ DATACLAS constructs which do NOT have
Extended Addressing. Basically, these are for tapes, PDS data sets, and
PDSE libraries. It is all the _VSAM_ related DATACLAS constructs which have
Extended Adressing on. Except for one, which is not generally used but can
be
You might want to look at the utilities available on the CBT tape
(www.cbttatpe.org). Files 332 and 388 seem promising.
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I have an issue with getting DB2 catalog datasets to SMS managed with a
dataclass which includes extended addressability. This is a requirement for
Enhanced New Function Mode and Version 10. (May have been a V9 requirement,
but we skipped from V8 to V10.)
My datasets are SMS managed, but
No, Dataclass routine is not driven by DFDSS. See DFP Manual for further
details.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:10 PM
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Subject: Assign Dataclass via Storeclass ACS
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 16:47:47 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote:
Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh would like to recall the message, Sorting CSV data
that begins with an IP address.
Paul Gilmartin would like to forget the message, Sorting CSV data that begins
with an IP address.
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A commonly overlooked scheduling facility with any recently shipped z/OS is
using Cron under zUnix. It can easily schedule what you are looking for. This
gives you a full featured scheduling package supported by the vendor if there
are issues.
Jerry Whitteridge
Lead Systems Programmer
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 18:09:37 +, Bill Bishop (TEMA TPC) wrote:
I have also seen a reference where the dataclass was assigned in the
storeclass ACS routines.
I don't think so.
quote
Each ACS routine can set only its corresponding read-write variable:
The data class routine can set only
That's what I can find to, but I saw a reference that I interpreted might allow
this, and right now I am stretching. I need to figure how to get dataclass
assigned correctly for datasets that already exist.
Thanks for confirming for me.
Thanks
Bill Bishop
Specialist
Mainframe Support Group
We have our own IPCS format model which uses BLSQMDEF/BLSQMFLD.
We use quite a few LONG labels. Many of these I can shorten by using the
PREFIX= keyword and removing the beginning of the label which is often the same
for all labels within the DSECT.
The problem is with some of the labels where
need to figure how to get dataclass assigned correctly for datasets
that already exist.
Why? IIRC, the DataClas is assigned at allocation time. While you can
issue an IDCAMS ALTER command for the StorClass MgmtClas, you can't
Alter the DataClas. This makes sense to me when you consider
On 4/9/14, 9:29 AM, John McKown wrote:
OK, not a big mainframe impact. But how many of us started programming by
using Basic on something like an Apple ][?
https://www.dartmouth.edu/basicfifty/
Maybe not a BIG mainframe impact, but BASIC certainly had it's place in
the mainframe sun,
It's probable DFSORT could do that too. Consider the value of IFTHEN and
ADD,+1 in OUTREC to increment and check the bounds of the block haven't
been reached.
But I accept that might be a fetishistic approach: Turning everything into
something to be solved by DFSORT.
Cheers, Martin
Martin
et...@tulsagrammer.com (Eric Chevalier) writes:
Maybe not a BIG mainframe impact, but BASIC certainly had it's place
in the mainframe sun, starting with VS BASIC, program product
5748-XX1. Between 1979 and 1981 I worked for Ryan-McFarland,
developers of RM-BASIC, RM-FORTRAN and RM-COBOL. My
W dniu 2014-04-16 21:39, Darth Keller pisze:
need to figure how to get dataclass assigned correctly for datasets
that already exist.
Why? IIRC, the DataClas is assigned at allocation time. While you can
issue an IDCAMS ALTER command for the StorClass MgmtClas, you can't
Alter the
The solution that someone finds to a given problem depends on
- the problem, of course
- the tools or skills he or she has available
For me, doing this task with DFSORT would involve long time of manual
reading, and maybe in the end I would find the solution.
With my given skills and tools,
For those who might care to relive their youth (or for those youngsters
who'd like to see what the fuss was about) there is the DTSS emulator
project, described at:
http://dtss.dartmouth.edu/
The original DTSS was apparently built on a GE-235, which ran the BASIC
and ALGOL systems, and a
On 4/14/2014 11:50 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
But is there an alternative?
The logmode I posted simultaneously creates both 68x80 and 68x142
geometries. Setting ISPF to 'Data' Screen Format rather than 'Max'
Screen Format, you get best-of-both-worlds behavior. ISPF will switch to
68x80 on
Bill,
The problem for you is that changing the DATACLAS to one with EA, or
changing the existing DATACLAS to support EA will not change the attributes
of the files already allocated.
Think of DATACLAS as JCL DD statement. It described the attributes of the
dataset to be allocated. Those
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:37:22 +, DASDBILL2 wrote:
IBM made RECORD=NO the default and RECORD=YES an option for very good
reasons.
Thanks for the reference Bill - and yes, I know IBM needs to allow for
unforeseen circumstances.
However, out in the real world, people need to get work done.
This serves as another tool for the job example. The sort in *nux is as
simple as:
sort -n -t . -k 1,1 -k 2,2 -k 3,3 -k 4,4 ipaddress.file
How easy is that ?. Even OMVS has sort that should handle that.
For the real output required, I'd pipe the output of that to gawk and use an
associative
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