John,
That would seem logical, but that’s not how it works. Once added to the list,
removal does not remove it, sadly. As someone else mentioned, the only way to
"remove" it, is to secure it in SAF. The ability to uninstall a plug-in has
been discussed, I just don’t know where or if there
Or you can create a new SMPPTSn dataset, say SMPPTS3, move the SMPPTS PTF
entries into it, add the SMPPTS3 dataset to the SMPPTS3 DDDEF and you are good
to go.
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On 1/31/2018 5:04 PM, R Dooley wrote:
Seems this should be easy however I'm having difficulty locating doc for zOS 2.2 and
above regarding "how-to" remove a zOSMF plug-in once it has been installed.
i.e. I no longer want it to appear as a link on the z/OSMF landing page.
If you don't mind
On 2/1/2018 4:22 AM, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote:
Is it possible to not receive HOLD Data? If I do more than one order in a day,
I want to skip the Hold Data the second time.
You cannot request PTFs without the HOLDDATA. However, as already
suggested, you can choose NOT to process the HOLDDATA after
R Dooley wrote:
Hello,
Seems this should be easy however I'm having difficulty locating doc for zOS 2.2 and
above regarding "how-to" remove a zOSMF plug-in once it has been installed.
i.e. I no longer want it to appear as a link on the z/OSMF landing page.
Remove it from the list of enabled
On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:42:09 -0500, Steve Smith wrote:
>There are definitely links to the current PoOp, but given the swirling
>chaos that is ibm.com, its validity cannot be guaranteed for more than
>say, a couple of days.
My experience is that URLs pointing to manuals have remained constant.
I
I've made the same request several months ago in a PMR. They adviced the SAF
option and asked to RFE it.
The reason why we wanted to do this, is because we have several z/OSMF
instances running in the sysplex. Mainly to seperate internal use (Sysprog) and
Workflow/Provisioning development. This
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
> I have a batch job that has two steps: the first is a C++ compile and the
> second is an ar (archive) BPXBATCH of the object code.
>
> The jobstep for BPXBATCH looks like
>
> //BPXARCH EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,COND=(4,LT),
> //
I used JOBGROUP to run a series of jobs I use for cloning my environment.
Works very well.
//mygroup JOBGROUP 'Clone xxx->x',
// ERROR=(RC>4),ONERROR=FLUSH
//jobaA GJOB
//jobB GJOB
//
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 00:16:06 -0600, Roger Lowe wrote:
>We have zOS 2.3 systems running at various PUT/RSU levels,
>ranging from PUT1708/RSU1708 to PUT1712/RSU1712 .
When you say that you have a system at PUT1708/RSU1708,
what do you mean? Do you mean that you have installed
PUT1708
You can either have the cgi build the form and send it as part of the response
with the fields pre-filled. Otherwise you will want to change your href below
to look like this:
Assuming parm1 and parm2 are hidden fields on your form, this will include the
values in the form.
"The power of
Maybe it is getting assigned to a different service class by WLM when
running from batch?
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
> Thanks. Let me look into the ar command line switches.
>
> Charles
>
>
>
Very cool, I can see that being a good option to clone my SYSRES and USS files
in one process (JOBGROUP)
Carmen Vitullo
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From: "David Jousma"
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 12:50:33 PM
Subject: Re: JOBGROUP
I'm a bystander on this issue at the moment, but I do have strong feelings
about appearing to give the user an option that, when selected, gets 'not
allowed'. If an option is not allowed, it should not be displayed. I realize
that this complicates programming, but it's the 'business ready'
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 08:40:15 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>JOBNAME StepName ProcStep JobIDOwnerC Pos DP Real PagingSIO
>CPU% ASID ASIDX EXCP-Cnt CPU-Time SR
>useridCC *OMVSEX STC04477 userid LO FF 2503 0.00 0.00
>0.00 322 0142891 0.04 DW
>useridCC
I second Skip's comments.
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Hi Folks,
Because of some interest on this list, we just wrote a tool that
might help people in long jobstreams. It is called EMPTYTST and it is a
batch program which can tell if a PS dataset or a PO member is empty or not.
EMPTYTST uses SYSUT1 for the input dataset, and returns a
I suspect that in many shops, getting the security changes pushed through the
channels is much more labor intensive than just uninstalling the parts you do
not want.
Don’t get me wrong, I'm coming around on z/OSMF, but the considerable
amount(understatement) of security work needed to
Here we go. Split onto two sets of lines to accommodate the listserver.
JOBNAME JobIDStatus OwnerState
useridCC STC04466 SWAPPED,WAITING FOR CHILDuserid 1WI
useridCC JOB04622 SWAPPED,FILE SYS KERNEL WAIT userid 1FI
useridCC STC04595 OTHER
Jousma, David wrote:
John,
That would seem logical, but that’s not how it works. Once added to the list, removal
does not remove it, sadly. As someone else mentioned, the only way to
"remove" it, is to secure it in SAF. The ability to uninstall a plug-in has
been discussed, I just don’t
> basically, /bin/sh is doing a UNIX "wait" command for the child processes to
> complete. IOW, it is sleeping the sleep of the just.
Well, yeah, it's waiting because it's waiting for something.
But why so long? Would you really expect an ar to *always* take 2 minutes or so
on a z13s, even
Hi
Is there anyone who have started taking the advantage of JOBGROUP ?
I am still trying to understand this functionality.
Since I see the JOBGROUP statement being used in JOBCARDS as well also the
manual says about running a set of JOBS run together.
What does it mean by running a set of JOBS
Hi Dave,
This is an "understood" current situation today, which we know would be nice to
fix.
Remember, if you are using an external application (technically not a plug-in),
like SDSF, you can remove it dynamically. SDSF has the doc to do that, as it's
quite easy.
-Marna WALLE
z/OS
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
> > basically, /bin/sh is doing a UNIX "wait" command for the child
> processes to complete. IOW, it is sleeping the sleep of the just.
>
> Well, yeah, it's waiting because it's waiting for something.
>
> But why so long?
Thanks Mike,
But what you say is the part that I have already done. I need help combining
the info from the cgi URL and the form. Those are the last three points in my
request. And I'll add this comment
IN other words, I want save what came in on the URL so I can append what came
in from
I have a batch job that has two steps: the first is a C++ compile and the
second is an ar (archive) BPXBATCH of the object code.
The jobstep for BPXBATCH looks like
//BPXARCH EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,COND=(4,LT),
// PARM=('SH cd /Object;',
// ';ar -rvc MyArchive.a #MEMBER#.o')
where
Yes, you can run them in parallel if you have WLM managed initiators with
JOBGROUP CONCURRENT.
Regards,
Leo
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Of Jake Anderson
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 12:37 PM
To:
Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't explain why what you have doesn't
produce a syntax error (double ;; )
from an interactive shell:
sh -c "cd /tmp;;ar -rvc foo.a bar.o"
FSUM7332 syntax error: got ;;, expecting Newline
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com
On Thu, Feb 1,
> The SDSF "PS" panel may be more useful.
Thanks. Was not aware of that. Here is the display for a similar process -- not
exactly the same JCL as the OP:
JOBNAME JobIDStatus OwnerState CPU-Time
useridCA STC04595 SWAPPED,WAITING FOR CHILDuserid 1WI
The direct document links are more stable than I thought. Sorry. As
for new processors, I don't think they are produced on a regular
schedule; but that's not really the point. When a new one is
published, the article will be out-of-date. But given the nature of
Wikipedia and encyclopediae in
You need to include the original information in a hidden field in your cgi
generated form. Then you can process it all together.
"The power of accurate observation is often mistaken for cynicism by those who
have not got it." -- George Bernard Shaw
The SDSF "PS" panel may be more useful.
What happens if you run the ar from an interactive z/OS Unix shell ?
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
> > basically, /bin/sh is doing a UNIX "wait" command for
Thanks. Let me look into the ar command line switches.
Charles
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Of John McKown
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 9:36 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to
On 2/1/2018 10:25 AM, John Eells wrote:
Just out of curiosity, why would you want to remove one, as long as
unauthorized people could not use it?
John,
Performance. V1R13, was bad, V2R1 corrected the issues, then V2R2 went
the wrong way with all the new plugins, and I shudder to see
I have a simple criterion for 'business ready': how much would I pay for this
application out of my own pocket? If it's not worth my buying it, it's not
worth designing into any product regardless of who's signing the check.
This is about customer-friendly usability, not security. It's just
Search>IBM SHARE JES2 JOBGROUP
http://ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/tipstechniques/systemsmanagement/jec-2-2/
>From SHARE proceedings Tom Wasik's .pdf presentation:
share.confex.com/share/125/webprogram/Handout/Session17826
share.confex.com/share/125/webprogram/Handout/Session17421
In a
Yeah, okay, the comma that MVS in its wisdom REQUIRES in there.
Yeah, I could get rid of it but see no need. I was just happy when I got the
thing working at all (several years ago).
And yes, sure enough, it does cause an error:
,: FSUM7351 not found
But does not seem to hurt anything. Unless
Isn't that just "security by obscurity"? Or invisibility? What business harm
is there in revealing that a function exists as long as the security rules
prevent unauthorized use?
Or is it just to keep the naive unauthorized screen user from "confusion"?
What exactly is meant by a "business
You will need to search for this, but there was a very good article on
MainframeSystems magazine about this new function in JES2.
Lizette
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> Behalf Of Jake Anderson
> Sent: Thursday, February
The way I understand it, the option in the left side bar does not show up, if
you are not allowed to use it. However, I have not proven that out.
_
Dave Jousma
Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President
List -
I am not sure what this message tells me. It seems to be very cryptic.
IGD01008I
text
Explanation
The storage class ACS routine issued the message.
System action
The system continues processing.
Programmer response
If the text is in error, correct the message text in the storage class
Okay - so I did not spell magazine correct
So it should read (for those of you that copy and paste)
IBM SYSTEMS MAGAZINE JOBGROUP
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> Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
> Sent: Thursday, February 01,
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 09:52:31 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>
>In answer to your other question, the two semicolons are accepted (required?)
>perhaps because MVS in its wisdom adds a comma in there.
>
Isn't that the comma that *you* typed?
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 08:40:15 -0800, Charles
The main page for every z/OS version in KC has a link to the most recent
PoOp right on its main page. For example, see
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0 .
Alternatively, at least until/if the URL or form number change, you can
point ppl to the PubsCenter (
And to add to Ed's list
I just did an internet search on the keywords
IBM SYSTEMS MANAZINE JOBGROUP
Lots pops up. Here are a couple
IBM Systems Magazine - JES2-job-group
http://ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/tipstechniques/systemsmanagement/jes2-job-group/figure-1/
In z/OS V2.2, JES2
Do not adjust your browser, IBM(F)Link is down yet again. No ETA, but
they were thinking maybe an hour? 23/7 works for them. GR..
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On 2/1/2018 6:59 PM, Tom Conley wrote:
Do not adjust your browser, IBM(F)Link is down yet again. No ETA, but
they were thinking maybe an hour? 23/7 works for them. GR..
Regards,
Tom Conley
FYI,
IBMyoyoLink is back up. For now.
Regards,
Tom Conley
On 2018-02-01 19:00, Tom Conley wrote:
23/7
I'll take the under.
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Does your SC ACS routine use the WRITE statement to issue messages of any
kind? Under what conditions do you receive the message?
Do either of these two situations (from the WRITE write-up) apply?
1 - Under certain conditions related to data set stacking, SMS invokes ACS
routines more than
Nope, the comma is not the problem. I got it out of there with a quick change
that works so long as the object file name is short. Still sat for a minute
elapsed doing nothing on a nearly-idle z13s:
IEF236I ALLOC. FOR useridCC BPXARCH
IEF237I DMY
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 15:31:23 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>
>And yes, sure enough, it does cause an error:
>,: FSUM7351 not found
>
>But does not seem to hurt anything. Unless perhaps USS is spending two minutes
>looking for a command named ','.
>
Only the dæmon knows! But a lexical change and a
Hi,
Is it possible to not receive HOLD Data? If I do more than one order in a day,
I want to skip the Hold Data the second time.
Is it possible to tell SMP/E to not attempt to store a PTF in the first SMPPTS
and just try the second or third one. The first one is full, and cannot be
extended.
Thanks to all who have responded. I have decided to follow the route of having
a step which will run a REXX exec to do the allocations for me. Far, far easier
than any other solution I was considering :)
Regards – Grant.
In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In
Hello,
1. In the RECEIVE job, SMPCNTL DD you probably have something like: RECEIVE
SYSMODS HOLDDATA. Remove this HOLDDATA.
2. You can change the DDDEFs for SMPPTS, SMPPTS1, SMPPTS2 accordingly or
you can specify //SMPPTS DD in the RECEIVE JCL with a dataset that is not
full
Regards,
For 1, when you user RECEIVE ORDER there is no SYSMOD or HOLDDATA in the
command.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
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Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:29 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMP/E
Ah, yes, you're right... in this case you have to change the CONTENT ...
most likely you have CONTENT(ALL) and that's what should be changed
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I have content(ptfs(list of ptfs))
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Subject: Re: SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER Question
Ah, yes, you're
You can create a started task that executes IEBGENER. Let the DSN of the input
containing the job be a symbolic you specify when you start the task. Let the
output point to the JES reader. From the console you could use
S task_name,DSN='some.sequential.dataset' or
S
Don't use DSN= as a parameter on the START command, since it will give you
headaches to get the STC working.
It is a recognized JCL parameter and will be substituted on the IEFPROC.IEFRDR
DD statement.
Kees.
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