Re: zOSMF - remove plug-in

2018-02-01 Thread Jousma, David
John, That would seem logical, but that’s not how it works. Once added to the list, removal does not remove it, sadly. As someone else mentioned, the only way to "remove" it, is to secure it in SAF. The ability to uninstall a plug-in has been discussed, I just don’t know where or if there

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER Question

2018-02-01 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Or you can create a new SMPPTSn dataset, say SMPPTS3, move the SMPPTS PTF entries into it, add the SMPPTS3 dataset to the SMPPTS3 DDDEF and you are good to go. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lucas Rosalen Sent:

Re: zOSMF - remove plug-in

2018-02-01 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 1/31/2018 5:04 PM, R Dooley wrote: Seems this should be easy however I'm having difficulty locating doc for zOS 2.2 and above regarding "how-to" remove a zOSMF plug-in once it has been installed. i.e. I no longer want it to appear as a link on the z/OSMF landing page. If you don't mind

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER Question

2018-02-01 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 2/1/2018 4:22 AM, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: Is it possible to not receive HOLD Data? If I do more than one order in a day, I want to skip the Hold Data the second time. You cannot request PTFs without the HOLDDATA. However, as already suggested, you can choose NOT to process the HOLDDATA after

Re: zOSMF - remove plug-in

2018-02-01 Thread John Eells
R Dooley wrote: Hello, Seems this should be easy however I'm having difficulty locating doc for zOS 2.2 and above regarding "how-to" remove a zOSMF plug-in once it has been installed. i.e. I no longer want it to appear as a link on the z/OSMF landing page. Remove it from the list of enabled

Re: Pu

2018-02-01 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:42:09 -0500, Steve Smith wrote: >There are definitely links to the current PoOp, but given the swirling >chaos that is ibm.com, its validity cannot be guaranteed for more than >say, a couple of days. My experience is that URLs pointing to manuals have remained constant. I

Re: zOSMF - remove plug-in

2018-02-01 Thread Ronald Kristel
I've made the same request several months ago in a PMR. They adviced the SAF option and asked to RFE it. The reason why we wanted to do this, is because we have several z/OSMF instances running in the sysplex. Mainly to seperate internal use (Sysprog) and Workflow/Provisioning development. This

Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > I have a batch job that has two steps: the first is a C++ compile and the > second is an ar (archive) BPXBATCH of the object code. > > The jobstep for BPXBATCH looks like > > //BPXARCH EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,COND=(4,LT), > //

Re: JOBGROUP in JCL

2018-02-01 Thread Jousma, David
I used JOBGROUP to run a series of jobs I use for cloning my environment. Works very well. //mygroup JOBGROUP 'Clone xxx->x', // ERROR=(RC>4),ONERROR=FLUSH //jobaA GJOB //jobB GJOB //

Re: Syntax check for JES2 INIT deck

2018-02-01 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 00:16:06 -0600, Roger Lowe wrote: >We have zOS 2.3 systems running at various PUT/RSU levels, >ranging from PUT1708/RSU1708 to PUT1712/RSU1712 . When you say that you have a system at PUT1708/RSU1708, what do you mean? Do you mean that you have installed PUT1708

Re: CGIs and HTML FORMs

2018-02-01 Thread Grinsell, Don
You can either have the cgi build the form and send it as part of the response with the fields pre-filled. Otherwise you will want to change your href below to look like this: Assuming parm1 and parm2 are hidden fields on your form, this will include the values in the form. "The power of

Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread Kirk Wolf
Maybe it is getting assigned to a different service class by WLM when running from batch? Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > Thanks. Let me look into the ar command line switches. > > Charles > > >

Re: JOBGROUP in JCL

2018-02-01 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Very cool, I can see that being a good option to clone my SYSRES and USS files in one process (JOBGROUP) Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "David Jousma" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 12:50:33 PM Subject: Re: JOBGROUP

Re: zOSMF - remove plug-in

2018-02-01 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I'm a bystander on this issue at the moment, but I do have strong feelings about appearing to give the user an option that, when selected, gets 'not allowed'. If an option is not allowed, it should not be displayed. I realize that this complicates programming, but it's the 'business ready'

Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 08:40:15 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >JOBNAME StepName ProcStep JobIDOwnerC Pos DP Real PagingSIO >CPU% ASID ASIDX EXCP-Cnt CPU-Time SR >useridCC *OMVSEX STC04477 userid LO FF 2503 0.00 0.00 >0.00 322 0142891 0.04 DW >useridCC

Re: zOSMF - remove plug-in

2018-02-01 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
I second Skip's comments. -- Lionel B. Dyck < Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent:

EMPTYTST program - Test if a non-VSAM dataset is empty

2018-02-01 Thread Sam Golob
Hi Folks,     Because of some interest on this list, we just wrote a tool that might help people in long jobstreams.  It is called EMPTYTST and it is a batch program which can tell if a PS dataset or a PO member is empty or not.     EMPTYTST uses SYSUT1 for the input dataset, and returns a

Re: zOSMF - remove plug-in

2018-02-01 Thread Jousma, David
I suspect that in many shops, getting the security changes pushed through the channels is much more labor intensive than just uninstalling the parts you do not want. Don’t get me wrong, I'm coming around on z/OSMF, but the considerable amount(understatement) of security work needed to

Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread Charles Mills
Here we go. Split onto two sets of lines to accommodate the listserver. JOBNAME JobIDStatus OwnerState useridCC STC04466 SWAPPED,WAITING FOR CHILDuserid 1WI useridCC JOB04622 SWAPPED,FILE SYS KERNEL WAIT userid 1FI useridCC STC04595 OTHER

Re: zOSMF - remove plug-in

2018-02-01 Thread John Eells
Jousma, David wrote: John, That would seem logical, but that’s not how it works. Once added to the list, removal does not remove it, sadly. As someone else mentioned, the only way to "remove" it, is to secure it in SAF. The ability to uninstall a plug-in has been discussed, I just don’t

Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread Charles Mills
> basically, /bin/sh is doing a UNIX "wait" command for the child processes to > complete. IOW, it is sleeping the sleep of the just. Well, yeah, it's waiting because it's waiting for something. But why so long? Would you really expect an ar to *always* take 2 minutes or so on a z13s, even

JOBGROUP in JCL

2018-02-01 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi Is there anyone who have started taking the advantage of JOBGROUP ? I am still trying to understand this functionality. Since I see the JOBGROUP statement being used in JOBCARDS as well also the manual says about running a set of JOBS run together. What does it mean by running a set of JOBS

Re: zOSMF - remove plug-in

2018-02-01 Thread Marna WALLE
Hi Dave, This is an "understood" current situation today, which we know would be nice to fix. Remember, if you are using an external application (technically not a plug-in), like SDSF, you can remove it dynamically. SDSF has the doc to do that, as it's quite easy. -Marna WALLE z/OS

Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > > basically, /bin/sh is doing a UNIX "wait" command for the child > processes to complete. IOW, it is sleeping the sleep of the just. > > Well, yeah, it's waiting because it's waiting for something. > > But why so long?

Re: AW: CGIs and HTML FORMs

2018-02-01 Thread Mary Kay Tubello
Thanks Mike, But what you say is the part that I have already done. I need help combining the info from the cgi URL and the form. Those are the last three points in my request. And I'll add this comment IN other words, I want save what came in on the URL so I can append what came in from

Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread Charles Mills
I have a batch job that has two steps: the first is a C++ compile and the second is an ar (archive) BPXBATCH of the object code. The jobstep for BPXBATCH looks like //BPXARCH EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,COND=(4,LT), // PARM=('SH cd /Object;', // ';ar -rvc MyArchive.a #MEMBER#.o') where

Re: JOBGROUP in JCL

2018-02-01 Thread Leonardo Vaz
Yes, you can run them in parallel if you have WLM managed initiators with JOBGROUP CONCURRENT. Regards, Leo -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jake Anderson Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 12:37 PM To:

Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread Kirk Wolf
Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't explain why what you have doesn't produce a syntax error (double ;; ) from an interactive shell: sh -c "cd /tmp;;ar -rvc foo.a bar.o" FSUM7332 syntax error: got ;;, expecting Newline Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Thu, Feb 1,

Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread Charles Mills
> The SDSF "PS" panel may be more useful. Thanks. Was not aware of that. Here is the display for a similar process -- not exactly the same JCL as the OP: JOBNAME JobIDStatus OwnerState CPU-Time useridCA STC04595 SWAPPED,WAITING FOR CHILDuserid 1WI

Re: Pu

2018-02-01 Thread Steve Smith
The direct document links are more stable than I thought. Sorry. As for new processors, I don't think they are produced on a regular schedule; but that's not really the point. When a new one is published, the article will be out-of-date. But given the nature of Wikipedia and encyclopediae in

Re: AW: CGIs and HTML FORMs

2018-02-01 Thread Grinsell, Don
You need to include the original information in a hidden field in your cgi generated form. Then you can process it all together. "The power of accurate observation is often mistaken for cynicism by those who have not got it." -- George Bernard Shaw

Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread Kirk Wolf
The SDSF "PS" panel may be more useful. What happens if you run the ar from an interactive z/OS Unix shell ? Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > > basically, /bin/sh is doing a UNIX "wait" command for

Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. Let me look into the ar command line switches. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 9:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to

Re: zOSMF - remove plug-in

2018-02-01 Thread Tom Conley
On 2/1/2018 10:25 AM, John Eells wrote: Just out of curiosity, why would you want to remove one, as long as unauthorized people could not use it? John, Performance. V1R13, was bad, V2R1 corrected the issues, then V2R2 went the wrong way with all the new plugins, and I shudder to see

Re: zOSMF - remove plug-in

2018-02-01 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I have a simple criterion for 'business ready': how much would I pay for this application out of my own pocket? If it's not worth my buying it, it's not worth designing into any product regardless of who's signing the check. This is about customer-friendly usability, not security. It's just

Re: JOBGROUP in JCL

2018-02-01 Thread Edward Finnell
Search>IBM SHARE JES2 JOBGROUP http://ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/tipstechniques/systemsmanagement/jec-2-2/   >From SHARE proceedings Tom Wasik's .pdf presentation:   share.confex.com/share/125/webprogram/Handout/Session17826 share.confex.com/share/125/webprogram/Handout/Session17421   In a

Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread Charles Mills
Yeah, okay, the comma that MVS in its wisdom REQUIRES in there. Yeah, I could get rid of it but see no need. I was just happy when I got the thing working at all (several years ago). And yes, sure enough, it does cause an error: ,: FSUM7351 not found But does not seem to hurt anything. Unless

Re: zOSMF - remove plug-in

2018-02-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Isn't that just "security by obscurity"? Or invisibility? What business harm is there in revealing that a function exists as long as the security rules prevent unauthorized use? Or is it just to keep the naive unauthorized screen user from "confusion"? What exactly is meant by a "business

Re: JOBGROUP in JCL

2018-02-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
You will need to search for this, but there was a very good article on MainframeSystems magazine about this new function in JES2. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Jake Anderson > Sent: Thursday, February

Re: zOSMF - remove plug-in

2018-02-01 Thread Jousma, David
The way I understand it, the option in the left side bar does not show up, if you are not allowed to use it. However, I have not proven that out. _ Dave Jousma Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President

IGD01008I SC Message Buffer Overflow

2018-02-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
List - I am not sure what this message tells me. It seems to be very cryptic. IGD01008I text Explanation The storage class ACS routine issued the message. System action The system continues processing. Programmer response If the text is in error, correct the message text in the storage class

Re: JOBGROUP in JCL

2018-02-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Okay - so I did not spell magazine correct So it should read (for those of you that copy and paste) IBM SYSTEMS MAGAZINE JOBGROUP > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Thursday, February 01,

Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 09:52:31 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > >In answer to your other question, the two semicolons are accepted (required?) >perhaps because MVS in its wisdom adds a comma in there. > Isn't that the comma that *you* typed? On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 08:40:15 -0800, Charles

Re: Pu

2018-02-01 Thread Susan Shumway
The main page for every z/OS version in KC has a link to the most recent PoOp right on its main page. For example, see https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0 . Alternatively, at least until/if the URL or form number change, you can point ppl to the PubsCenter (

Re: JOBGROUP in JCL

2018-02-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
And to add to Ed's list I just did an internet search on the keywords IBM SYSTEMS MANAZINE JOBGROUP Lots pops up. Here are a couple IBM Systems Magazine - JES2-job-group http://ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/tipstechniques/systemsmanagement/jes2-job-group/figure-1/ In z/OS V2.2, JES2

IBM(F)Link down for the count

2018-02-01 Thread Tom Conley
Do not adjust your browser, IBM(F)Link is down yet again. No ETA, but they were thinking maybe an hour? 23/7 works for them. GR.. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: IBM(F)Link down for the count

2018-02-01 Thread Tom Conley
On 2/1/2018 6:59 PM, Tom Conley wrote: Do not adjust your browser, IBM(F)Link is down yet again.  No ETA, but they were thinking maybe an hour?  23/7 works for them.  GR.. Regards, Tom Conley FYI, IBMyoyoLink is back up. For now. Regards, Tom Conley

Re: IBM(F)Link down for the count

2018-02-01 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-02-01 19:00, Tom Conley wrote: 23/7 I'll take the under. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507 Support: https://actionsoftware.com/support/

Re: IGD01008I SC Message Buffer Overflow

2018-02-01 Thread retired mainframer
Does your SC ACS routine use the WRITE statement to issue messages of any kind? Under what conditions do you receive the message? Do either of these two situations (from the WRITE write-up) apply? 1 - Under certain conditions related to data set stacking, SMS invokes ACS routines more than

Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread Charles Mills
Nope, the comma is not the problem. I got it out of there with a quick change that works so long as the object file name is short. Still sat for a minute elapsed doing nothing on a nearly-idle z13s: IEF236I ALLOC. FOR useridCC BPXARCH IEF237I DMY

Re: Why does BPXBATCH/ar go to sleep

2018-02-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 15:31:23 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > >And yes, sure enough, it does cause an error: >,: FSUM7351 not found > >But does not seem to hurt anything. Unless perhaps USS is spending two minutes >looking for a command named ','. > Only the dæmon knows! But a lexical change and a

SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER Question

2018-02-01 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi, Is it possible to not receive HOLD Data? If I do more than one order in a day, I want to skip the Hold Data the second time. Is it possible to tell SMP/E to not attempt to store a PTF in the first SMPPTS and just try the second or third one. The first one is full, and cannot be extended.

Re: Problem with JCL

2018-02-01 Thread Ward Able, Grant
Thanks to all who have responded. I have decided to follow the route of having a step which will run a REXX exec to do the allocations for me. Far, far easier than any other solution I was considering :) Regards – Grant. In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER Question

2018-02-01 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Hello, 1. In the RECEIVE job, SMPCNTL DD you probably have something like: RECEIVE SYSMODS HOLDDATA. Remove this HOLDDATA. 2. You can change the DDDEFs for SMPPTS, SMPPTS1, SMPPTS2 accordingly or you can specify //SMPPTS DD in the RECEIVE JCL with a dataset that is not full Regards,

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER Question

2018-02-01 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
For 1, when you user RECEIVE ORDER there is no SYSMOD or HOLDDATA in the command. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lucas Rosalen Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMP/E

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER Question

2018-02-01 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Ah, yes, you're right... in this case you have to change the CONTENT ... most likely you have CONTENT(ALL) and that's what should be changed --- *Lucas Rosalen*

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER Question

2018-02-01 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
I have content(ptfs(list of ptfs)) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lucas Rosalen Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER Question Ah, yes, you're

Re: Submitting batch job in console

2018-02-01 Thread retired mainframer
You can create a started task that executes IEBGENER. Let the DSN of the input containing the job be a symbolic you specify when you start the task. Let the output point to the JES reader. From the console you could use S task_name,DSN='some.sequential.dataset' or S

Re: Submitting batch job in console

2018-02-01 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Don't use DSN= as a parameter on the START command, since it will give you headaches to get the STC working. It is a recognized JCL parameter and will be substituted on the IEFPROC.IEFRDR DD statement. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List