Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

2020-03-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
I've got manuals much older than that. If I could get them scanned for bitsavers then I'd have no interest in keeping the dead trees, but I don't know anybody local willing to do it and shipping them would be expensive. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Scripting REXX thought -- inspiration or insanity?

2020-03-17 Thread scott Ford
Shmuel but why not leverage ( I know new word ) both. Scott On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 5:56 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > Apples and oranges. As before, you're talking about the capabilities of > the environment in which it is running, not the capabilities of the > program. > > Further. how do you

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

2020-03-17 Thread R.S.
I don't know US prices, but IMHO scanning manuals, especially not books, rather binders should be easy and cheap. I did is by myself, and I ordered it 2 years ago, because of our relocation. The question is reason. I discarded a lot of stuff without any scanning just because I saw absolutely

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
It's more like LINK than like CALL. If you want a jobstep parameter, why not use address LINKMVS, which builds the HW length field automatically? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of

Re: Scripting REXX thought -- inspiration or insanity?

2020-03-17 Thread scott Ford
Shmuel, Absolutely ... Scott On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:14 AM Seymour J Metz wrote: > I do exploit the features of both the language and the shell that it is > runnung under, but when comparing two languages you should recognize that > the user has the same shell features for both. > > > -- >

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Al Ferguson
Lennie, I have an example of IGGCSI00 in CBT Tape FILE960 (http://cbttape.org ). A very general one is called DSLIST, it can take many CSI PARMs and return most of the info. ___ Al Ferguson | mailto:afergu...@neptunescove.org Milwaukee, WI USA |

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread scott Ford
Steve, I have written in rexx,oorexx,assembler,cobol,bash,,,on and on. For a lot of system chores I love Rexx. The big reason is being interpreted is fairly easy to see output and work with it especially if the output is being used for another piece of code. Every programming language IMHO

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:17:13 +, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote: >I have a need to make use of IGGCSI00. >It would make my life a lot easier if I could work in REXX rather than >assembler. I see that IBM have supplied a sample routine called IGGCSIRX >showing how it can be used from REXX,

Re: Scripting REXX thought -- inspiration or insanity?

2020-03-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
I do exploit the features of both the language and the shell that it is runnung under, but when comparing two languages you should recognize that the user has the same shell features for both. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

JES “end of response” marker

2020-03-17 Thread Donald Russell
I can issue some JES commands through RSCS from a VM system. Is there a way to tell JES (zOS 2.4) to send a “end of response” message? Example: I can query RSCS and know when the end of the asynchronous response is. CP SMSG RSCS (MT.) QUERY LINKS the (..) modifier tells RSCS to format the

Re: SMF 119 records (TCPIP)

2020-03-17 Thread Allan Staller
What documentation there is, is in SC27-3659 IP Programmer's Guide and Reference Appendix E. Anything more than that you will need to ask IBM/ HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pierre Fichaud Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:28 AM To:

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Also check out Mark Zelden's CATSRCH rexx exec http://mzelden.com/mvsutil.html -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 12:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX Scott, Thanks,

Re: Mainframe growth for the next decade!

2020-03-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 11:51:12 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: > ... Nigerian prince ... > I suspect they expect fair(?) compensation for their survey effort. Or, GIYF. >-Original Message- >From: Bill Johnson >Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 11:12 > >The mainframe is far from dead/dying.

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread scott Ford
Gil, If memory serves me correctly Ken ( I dont remember his last name , the rexx wiz from SHARE ) has a real nice piece of Rexx code for IGGCSI00, just a idea for you sir. Scott On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:59 AM scott Ford wrote: > Steve, > > I have written in

Re: SMF 119 records (TCPIP)

2020-03-17 Thread Mark Regan
Someone at one time had put together a REXX program to process 119 records and produce reports. I used it at my last shop, however I do not remember who provided it. Regards, *Mark T. Regan, K8MTR* CTO1 USNR-Retired, 1969-1991 Nationwide Insurance, Retired, 1986-2017 On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:07:57 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >[LINKPGM] It's more like LINK than like CALL. > I agree. >If you want a jobstep parameter, why not use address LINKMVS, which builds the >HW length field automatically? > The ICSF interface the example uses does not use a HW length,

Re: Mainframe growth for the next decade!

2020-03-17 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:34 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > The mainframe’s demise has been talked about for decades and yet it still > processes most of the world’s critical transactions. >

Re: SMF 119 records (TCPIP)

2020-03-17 Thread Pierre Fichaud
I do not have SAS. Pierre. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread scott Ford
Lennie, It’s Ken Tomiak .. I just found it my friend. Scott On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 12:54 PM Richards, Robert B. < 01c91f408b9e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Also check out Mark Zelden's CATSRCH rexx exec > > http://mzelden.com/mvsutil.html > > > -Original Message- >

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

2020-03-17 Thread R.S.
Well... What about softcopy? I swear I have OS/390 2.6 manuals (our first system). I also keep z/OS 1.13 on our server. No, we don't use 1.13 anymore, but I'm used to Bookreader and this is the last version of BOO manuals. Yes, we've got hardcopy manuals set. It was in 1998. I decided to

Re: Scripting REXX thought -- inspiration or insanity?

2020-03-17 Thread scott Ford
Bill, sure do , not sure what you are saying here ? Scott On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:44 AM William Schoen wrote: > The rexx utility at ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/s390/zos/tools/rexx/rexx.c > supports command line entered rexx. For example: > rexx -c "file='/etc/rc';do while lines(file)>0;say

Re: Scripting REXX thought -- inspiration or insanity?

2020-03-17 Thread William Schoen
The rexx utility at ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/s390/zos/tools/rexx/rexx.c supports command line entered rexx. For example: rexx -c "file='/etc/rc';do while lines(file)>0;say linein(file);end;return 0" Bill Schoen -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Mainframe growth for the next decade!

2020-03-17 Thread scott Ford
I am part of a ISV, but I see more a trend toward PC (aka Windows and Linux ), which is fine, but I think people are missing the multi-platform resources available. Everyone is focused on 'the cloud'. I dont feel its the end-all, just another tool. Scott (my opinion is my own) On Tue, Mar 17,

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

2020-03-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
I edit articles on wiki, and bitsavers is an invaluable resource, since I can provide links to my references. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of R.S. Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020

Re: Mainframe growth for the next decade!

2020-03-17 Thread Bill Johnson
The mainframe’s demise has been talked about for decades and yet it still processes most of the world’s critical transactions. https://blog.syncsort.com/2017/06/mainframe/6-industries-mainframes-king/ You might put you pictures and music on the cloud but are you willing to put your health care

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Scott, Thanks, As I live in the UK I don't get to Share. If anyone else has the name of this REXX person (Ken something) I would be pleased. Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw | Security Lead | RSM Partners Ltd   Web:  www.rsmpartners.com ‘Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone

IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
I have a need to make use of IGGCSI00. It would make my life a lot easier if I could work in REXX rather than assembler. I see that IBM have supplied a sample routine called IGGCSIRX showing how it can be used from REXX, though it looks a little cludgy; not as elegant as the RACF interface to

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
All languages have glitches, especially C. Certainly there are things that could be cleaned up in REXX, but there are other things that are eleant if not misused. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Lionel B Dyck
If you have PIPEs available the PIPE LISTCAT is an excellent tool to use if you only want the dataset name, and optionally the dataset type. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is what you are, reputation merely

Re: SMF 119 records (TCPIP)

2020-03-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
Do you have SAS? If so, look at MXG. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Pierre Fichaud Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 9:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SMF 119 records

Re: SMF 119 records (TCPIP)

2020-03-17 Thread Charles Mills
I wrote a piece of software that processed *certain SMF 119 subtypes*. They were all "event" type records such as a TN3270 connection, a TN3270 disconnection, and so forth. For those purposes I was if I recall correctly able to utterly ignore this flag. Your mileage may vary. An event record

SMF 119 records (TCPIP)

2020-03-17 Thread Pierre Fichaud
There are many sub-types for SMF 119 (X'77'). The common identification section has a flag byte called SMF119TI_Reason with the following values: X'C0' - Interval record, more records to follow X'80' - Interval record, last record in set X'60' - End of statistics record, more records to follow

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 8:53 AM Steve Smith wrote: > REXX is inherently kludgy (who needs structures? SUBSTR can do > anything!). > > That's not a big REXX exec. Just de-kludge to your taste, if possible. > IGGCSI00 is tricky to get started with, so you definitely want to start > with a

Re: z/OSMF and z/OSMF "Lite"

2020-03-17 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 3/16/2020 1:28 PM, Jousma, David wrote: Did something change with the PARMLIB Plugin statement usage? I know early on, once a plugin was added in parmlib it was activated and simply removing the plugin from parmlib definition didn’t actually remove it from use or make it invisible. Seems

Re: z/OSMF and z/OSMF "Lite"

2020-03-17 Thread Michael Brennan
Same behavior in z/OS 2.3. Michael Brennan Mainframe Engineering HCL Technologies Ltd. Tel:408-933-3628 Extn: (506-7028) www.hcl.com From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Kurt Quackenbush Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 7:43

Newbie VTAM question

2020-03-17 Thread Edgington, Jerry
I have a very newbie VTAM question. We have a SYSplex running, and we want to get VTAM setup to allow for connections with application in the SYSplex. We have XCF and FCTC setup, but not sure about what VTAM definitions are needed. Thanks, Jerry Edgington

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

2020-03-17 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 02:50:53PM +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > I've got manuals much older than that. If I could get them scanned > for bitsavers then I'd have no interest in keeping the dead trees, > but I don't know anybody local willing to do it and shipping them > would be expensive. You

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

2020-03-17 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 01:59:55PM -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: > Is there someone at bitsavers that does scanning if we send them the > manuals? Rates for mailing books is not that bad. I would send a few > of my old ones to someone to scan. > > I also have a bunch of old IBM VSE fiche showing

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Lenni, What exactly you need? we have a modified copy of the rexx used in our product (IronSphere) that act like a rexx function and returns dataset list using push to the stack. so, what exactly do you need? ITschak ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Sadly Ken passed away a few years back - but he was a genius and Rexxpert. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -Original

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

2020-03-17 Thread Tony Thigpen
Is there someone at bitsavers that does scanning if we send them the manuals? Rates for mailing books is not that bad. I would send a few of my old ones to someone to scan. I also have a bunch of old IBM VSE fiche showing program listings for things like supervisor, vtam, cobol, rpg, cics,

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
ITschak, Blue sky thinking.. What I am thinking of is something that potentially returns everything about each entry selected, whether the entry be a NONVSAM, CLUSTER, DATA, INDEX, PATH, AIX, USERCAT and so on. What would be nice is to have a set of variables populated for each attribute

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Steve Smith
REXX is inherently kludgy (who needs structures? SUBSTR can do anything!). That's not a big REXX exec. Just de-kludge to your taste, if possible. IGGCSI00 is tricky to get started with, so you definitely want to start with a working example. There are also a couple of assembler samples

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

2020-03-17 Thread Bob Bridges
I used to think so. But some years ago - decades ago, now, come to think of it - we were teaching users how to write their own DYL-280II programs, and ordering manuals for them as the need arose. My boss got tired of writing up purchase orders for manuals one and two at a time (at $150 for a

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Afaik the program only returns catalog, dsname and volser. ITschak ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM comming son * On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 9:00 PM Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw < lenni...@rsmpartners.com>

Re: Mainframe growth for the next decade!

2020-03-17 Thread zMan
Hey, but it's got Pie Chat. Who doesn't love pie? And chat? Srsly, Arvind is IBM's last hope. Ginni was a disaster in every way for the company and investors. If you have 38 minutes, check out The Decline of IBM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4b1D1vWRnc Not perfect, but pretty close to

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Steve Smith
IGGCSI00 can return much more than that, assuming that's the program you mean. The examples and samples mostly need to be enhanced to take advantage. sas On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 3:56 PM ITschak Mugzach wrote: > Afaik the program only returns catalog, dsname and volser.

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Andrew Rowley
Does it have to be Rexx? There is a Java interface to the CSI that is certainly easier than assembler, and I would say is easier than Rexx. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSYKE2_8.0.0/com.ibm.java.zsecurity.api.80.doc/com.ibm.jzos/com/ibm/jzos/CatalogSearch.html On 18/03/2020

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Billy Ashton
Now, I have not done anything with batch Java here; do you have a more complete example of how to use it? Billy -- Original Message -- From: "Andrew Rowley" To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Sent: 3/17/2020 6:18:08 PM Subject: Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX Does it have to be Rexx? There is a

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread David Crayford
https://github.com/zsystems/java-samples/blob/master/CatalogSearchSample.java On 2020-03-18 6:49 AM, Billy Ashton wrote: Now, I have not done anything with batch Java here; do you have a more complete example of how to use it? Billy -- Original Message -- From: "Andrew Rowley" To:

Re: Newbie VTAM question

2020-03-17 Thread Brian Westerman
The simplest way is to use EE (Enterprise Extender). It's free (it comes with z/OS) and it's very simple to set up. There are lots of manuals and share docs on the process, and it will probably take you no more than an hour to set it up. Brian

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-17 Thread Brian Westerman
How about the rexx exec IGGCSIRX in SYS1.SAMPLIB? There is also a share handout from 2014 that you can probably find on the internet. RESUME = 'Y' Do While RESUME = 'Y' /* Call the Catalog Search Interface */ ADDRESS LINKPGM 'IGGCSI00 RETAREA CSIFIELD WORKAREA' ... RESUME =