Re: Predict WLC invoice amount ...

2013-05-15 Thread Timothy Sipples
There are also Enterprise License Agreements (ELAs) which probably at least reduce the intensity of worrying about this stuff month to month. Ask your IBM representative. Timothy Sipples GMU

HOST feature or understand a sentence

2013-05-15 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
If someone can help to understand this : replacing the HOST hardware with a Intel (or AMD) Server where Linux will be the OS and the HOST feature is emulated in order to avoid rewriting all the programs that are currently executed on the HOST machine. -- Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen

Re: Predict WLC invoice amount ...

2013-05-15 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-05-14 23:23, Ed Jaffe pisze: On 5/14/2013 2:05 PM, R.S. wrote: Why IBM does not provide price per MSU of z/OS, DB2, IMS, CICS, etc? With possible discounts on n-th MSU, maybe as a formula. Here in the U.S., we logon to https://www.ibm.com/ibmlink/eswprice/PriceESW.wss to see

Re: Predict WLC invoice amount ...

2013-05-15 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Timothy, That is not exactly true. Even with an ELA, you are required to still collect the SMF data and submit the SCRT reports as before. It is just that the monthly invoice should be substantially lower! When I had an ELA, I compared the monthly LCS invoice against the monthly ELA amount

Re: Predict WLC invoice amount ...

2013-05-15 Thread Richards, Robert B.
EMEA pricing is generally higher than the US pricing. At least that was my experience when I was a S/390 Client Rep. in Saudi Arabia sixteen years ago. Price lifts occurred sometimes by EMEA and also sometimes by the IBM x company (substitute your favorite country for x). As to LCS,

Re: Z/OS maintenance Slides

2013-05-15 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Peter, There are several presentations out on the SHARE website: Successful Practices for Installing and Rolling Out z/OS Maintenance - User Experience http://www.share.org/p/do/sd/sid=8265fid=8294req=direct A Different Way to Perform z/OS Maintenance

Re: HOST feature or understand a sentence

2013-05-15 Thread Mike Schwab
This is writing an emulator for the host environment to run on x86 or x64 hardware. I.E. Hercules for S/370+, System I for AS/400 hardware. On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: If someone can help to understand this : replacing the HOST

Re: HOST feature or understand a sentence

2013-05-15 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
On 15.05.2013 12:19, Mike Schwab wrote: This is writing an emulator for the host environment to run on x86 or x64 hardware. I.E. Hercules for S/370+, System I for AS/400 hardware. I know only about Hercules as mainframe emulator. Can you run , get a licence for z/OS, under Hercules ? On Wed,

Re: Predict WLC invoice amount ...

2013-05-15 Thread Scott Chapman
In everything I've been lead to believe is true (in the US), an ELA doesn't relieve you from paying for the actual cost of MLC software capacity that you've consumed. You may have budgeted an amount of $x/month for MLC in the ELA and that's the amount of the check you send IBM every month.

Re: Destination z -- Back to the Future -- Don't Reinvent Mainframe Wheels

2013-05-15 Thread John Gilmore
Earlier this week, on another list, I encountered someone who was proposing to use STCK TOD values in a new system. He should of course have chosen STCKE values instead. At 23:58:43 on 17 September 2042 the IBM mainframe TOD clock, 64-bit STCK value will overflow. STCKE values do not have this

Re: HOST feature or understand a sentence

2013-05-15 Thread John McKown
According to IBM, you cannot get a z/OS license for a Hercules based machine. It has been asked for by many, for a hobbyist environment. Another emulator is Boch. It is an x86 emulator. As I recall, one person used this to run Windows, slowly, on an old pre-z machine. It would be interesting, to

DFSORT/ICETOOL: merge records from 2files

2013-05-15 Thread af dc
Hello, I know this is a newbie question and I got User Guide for DFSORT PTFs UK51706 and UK51707 near me, but I can't get this done: F1 file: EDIT PRS.CTT.FWK310 Command === ** * Top of D 01 1B2906,Deferred,Queued,49:18:37,3.90 =COLS

Is DVGIFBI available to download from anywhere?

2013-05-15 Thread Richards, Robert B.
My boss is interested in getting DVGIFBI (Netview FTP) again. Somehow, we lost the original. Does anyone know where it might be available for download? Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Predict WLC invoice amount ...

2013-05-15 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Scott, That is *not* how I remember it. Otherwise, what is the point of the ELA? I could be wrong as I am six years removed from doing a lot of IBM software asset management for my previous employer. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Is DVGIFBI available to download from anywhere?

2013-05-15 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Wed, 15 May 2013 07:26:13 -0400, Richards, Robert B. wrote: My boss is interested in getting DVGIFBI (Netview FTP) again. Somehow, we lost the original. Does anyone know where it might be available for download? Orderable in Shopz for internet delivery: 5685-108 NetView FTP for MVS V2

Re: ICSF master keys at DR site

2013-05-15 Thread Todd Arnold
There is/was a way to set a CEX card to allow it to keep the MK loaded while being transferred between machines. Yes, but you also need a TKE to do this. You can enable or disable the crypto card. When the card is disabled, you cannot perform any application-oriented crypto functions with

Re: Is DVGIFBI available to download from anywhere?

2013-05-15 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Thank you, Norbert. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Norbert Friemel Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is DVGIFBI available to download from anywhere? On Wed, 15 May 2013

Re: Is DVGIFBI available to download from anywhere?

2013-05-15 Thread Matthew Stitt
Netview FTP still can be ordered. I have it on my system. I show product 5685-108 and a 1994 date in the comments from the installation jobs. It's a great product. Allows parallel FTP between any system which can run it (including z/VSE). Hope this helps. On Wed, 15 May 2013 07:26:13

Will running INSTALL help?

2013-05-15 Thread Ken Leidner
I am running Global mirror on an IBM 8300 DASD box. I soon will be TDMFing the volumes to a new 8870 box and starting a new Global Mirror session from the new 8700 box. I have some volumes that use to be active (had datasets on them), but since have been returned to a free status. My

Re: Is DVGIFBI available to download from anywhere?

2013-05-15 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Thank you too, Matthew. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Matthew Stitt Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is DVGIFBI available to download from anywhere? Netview FTP still

Re: Will running INSTALL help?

2013-05-15 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Wed, 15 May 2013 08:26:28 -0400, Ken Leidner wrote: I am running Global mirror on an IBM 8300 DASD box. I soon will be TDMFing the volumes to a new 8870 box and starting a new Global Mirror session from the new 8700 box. I have some volumes that use to be active (had datasets on them), but

DB2 + REUSASID(YES)

2013-05-15 Thread Mark Zelden
Sorry for asking what should be an RTFM question, but can someone confirm that DB2 V10 can not take advantage of REUSASID(YES). If it can, I sure don't see it in any announcement letters nor the What's New manual. I searched ibm.com and SHARE proceedings also and came up empty. I could swear

Re: ADRDSSU performance degradation

2013-05-15 Thread Peter Vander Woude
1) Full volume backups every 4 hours 2) no control cards were changed 3) no, maintenance was not applied to running libraries (never do that) 4) yes an IPL was done WITH CLPA (it's always done at IPL). 5) Yes maintenance was installed that affects ADRDSSU One other item, during analysis that has

Re: HOST feature or understand a sentence

2013-05-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 15 May 2013 06:00:44 -0500, John McKown wrote: According to IBM, you cannot get a z/OS license for a Hercules based machine. It has been asked for by many, for a hobbyist environment. Perhaps more like WINE than like Hercules. You don't need z/OS to run applications; only interface

Looking for decision tree for hardware purchases

2013-05-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am wandering into an area I rarely play in. I have been asked to provide a process to help determine what our next hardware purchases should be for tape and dasd I am looking for input on what I need to look for when making a decision between vendors for solutions in the area of tape and dasd

Re: Destination z -- Back to the Future -- Don't Reinvent Mainframe Wheels

2013-05-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 15 May 2013 06:54:01 -0400, John Gilmore wrote: Earlier this week, on another list, I encountered someone who was proposing to use STCK TOD values in a new system. Circa 1987, in a design meeting I advocated reserving a 4-digit field for a date. I was sneered at because the TIME macro

FW: Help with IBM Session Mgr Script

2013-05-15 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
Group, Got no takers on this one. I asked IBM for help and they were very kind once again: *** Extract of IBM PMR *** The Waitappl for non-SNA sessions is looking for a 3270 WCC with the keyboard restore bit set from TSO. A non-SNA LU0 needs TSO to send the WCC to unlock the keyboard.

ShopZ

2013-05-15 Thread Alan Field
Any one else having problems with https://eccgw01.boulder.ibm.com/services/projects/ecc/ws/. For three days I've been trying to download holddata and both Boulder and Rochester fail after waiting for 120 minutes. Alan Field Technical Engineer Principal BCBS Minnesota Phone: 651.662.3546

Re: Looking for decision tree for hardware purchases

2013-05-15 Thread Staller, Allan
snip Are there any other vendors other than Fujitsu CS Eternus, IBM TS7700/8700, Luminex, EMC VMAX /snip Hitachi Data Systems (HDS) FWIW, we are sharing a HDS VSP between MF and Open SYSTEMS successfully HTH, Al Staller | Z Systems Programmer | KBM Group | (Tel) 972 664-3565 |

Re: HOST feature or understand a sentence

2013-05-15 Thread John McKown
Ah, yes. Mantissa. That's been in the works for quite a while now. Hope it lives up to expectations. I wonder if it implements a just in time compiler simiilar to IBM's JAVA implementation. What might be even better would be something like how the i (AS/400 offspring) does it. Compiling Java to

Re: ShopZ

2013-05-15 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Hi Alan. Yes, I've been having problems for about a week, and have a pmr open. Although it's slow at the moment, some times it does finish. Yesterday it timed out after 480 minutes. Today it finished in 255 minutes. IBM says there is/was a huge backlog, possibly due to a new RSU coming out. But

Re: ShopZ

2013-05-15 Thread Skip Robinson
This problem seems to come and go. I advise my colleagues to 'wait forever'. I see no value in timing out nor cost for waiting. The task seems to wake up periodically to check on progress, so S522 is not likely. RECEIVE ORDER( ... WAIT(NOLIMIT) /* As long as it takes */ ... )

Re: DB2 + REUSASID(YES)

2013-05-15 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/15/2013 6:41 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: Sorry for asking what should be an RTFM question, but can someone confirm that DB2 V10 can not take advantage of REUSASID(YES). If it can, I sure don't see it in any announcement letters nor the What's New manual. I searched ibm.com and SHARE proceedings

Re: Destination z -- Back to the Future -- Don't Reinvent Mainframe Wheels

2013-05-15 Thread John Gilmore
TOD values are, conceptually, most like IAT ones. Specialization/adulteration is DIY. TOD clocks, incremented counters in general, are by definition unsigned. Moreover, with the exception of some few astronomical ones, we do not know the times of past events, even quite recent ones with

Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL: merge records from 2files

2013-05-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
It is quite easy to get the desired results using Joinkeys. The sample data you have shown does not have any matching records. It would have been nice if you showed the required output also //STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //INA DD *

Re: DB2 + REUSASID(YES)

2013-05-15 Thread Rob Scott
I can confirm that an address space started REUSASID encounters all sorts of 0D3 style abends when connected to either DB2 or MQ series using CAF in order to use its services. I had to add specific code to MXI so that it starts its auxiliary server DB2 and MQ address spaces *without* REUSASID.

Re: DB2 + REUSASID(YES)

2013-05-15 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Mark, DB2 V10 doesn't take advantage of REUSEASID(YES). I haven't seen anything announced in this area for DB2 V11 either. == Wayne Driscoll OMEGAMON DB2 L3 Support/Development wdrisco(at)us(dot)ibm(dot)com ==

Re: ICSF master keys at DR site

2013-05-15 Thread Frank Swarbrick
MK Ceremony.  I like that.  :-) Definitely what we'll have to do, as I'm pretty sure we're not going to remove one of our cryptocards and transport it to DR just for this.  Interesting idea, though!  Is there a way to copy the master keys from one co-processor to another?

Re: DB2 + REUSASID(YES)

2013-05-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 15 May 2013 08:06:05 -0700, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 5/15/2013 6:41 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: Sorry for asking what should be an RTFM question, but can someone confirm that DB2 V10 can not take advantage of REUSASID(YES). If it can, I sure don't see it in any

Re: DB2 + REUSASID(YES)

2013-05-15 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/15/2013 9:00 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: And what I may be remembering at SHARE was a verbal reference to DB2 X in Elpida's Large Page session for z/OS 1.9 in San Jose. Maybe I just always assumed DB2 V10 would have the REUSASID support. Your memory is better than you think, Mark! (Either

Re: Looking for decision tree for hardware purchases

2013-05-15 Thread Dave Salt
Any other guidance is appreciated.In addition to buying new hardware, another option to consider is using tools that help reduce storage needs. For example, please see the section called Reduced Hardware Costs which is roughly one and a half pages up from the bottom of the following

Re: Destination z -- Back to the Future -- Don't Reinvent Mainframe Wheels

2013-05-15 Thread John McKown
Rather than being signed, IBM _could_ move the epoch back. I don't see any need. In fact, personally, I would not use STCKE values. I'd use something like true Julian dates/times (like the astronomers use), or perhaps Lilian dates (date only, no time) since there some nice LE subroutines to format

Re: Looking for decision tree for hardware purchases

2013-05-15 Thread Gord Tomlin
I would want to include some RAS considerations such as: - mean time to failure; - mean time to repair; - availability of local service personnel. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507 On

Re: Destination z -- Back to the Future -- Don't Reinvent Mainframe Wheels

2013-05-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:27:47 -0500, John McKown wrote: Rather than being signed, IBM _could_ move the epoch back. Remember when some shops would post here every time the clocks changed back in the fall? They were running with local=GMT and would have to keep their IMS systems down for an

Re: DB2 + REUSASID(YES)

2013-05-15 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 15 May 2013 08:41:26 -0500 Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: :Sorry for asking what should be an RTFM question, but can someone confirm :that DB2 V10 can not take advantage of REUSASID(YES). If it can, I sure :don't see it in any announcement letters nor the What's New manual. :I

High Availability Option for RHEL on System z available

2013-05-15 Thread David Boyes
For those of you using RHEL on System z and needing a HA option (Red Hat does not provide a HA solution for System z), SNA has created a High Availability Option for RHEL on System z. The tool provides load balancing, cluster creation and management, and the GFS2 cluster file system and

load module

2013-05-15 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Good day We are running an IBM monitor to intercept every OPEN and READ looking for EAV (extended accessability? Volumes) compliancy - we have found a load module DBIDDBA to be non-compliant but our DBA group has no idea to what purchased application this load module belongs - is anyone on

Re: Destination z -- Back to the Future -- Don't Reinvent Mainframe Wheels

2013-05-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 15 May 2013 13:08:32 -0500, John McKown wrote: Actually, if the epoch were moved BACK in time, then the TOD value would need to be increased ... Duh My mistake. Thanks for the correction. -- Tom Marchant -- For

Re: load module

2013-05-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
Are there any eye catchers in the module to suggest a vendor or product? Lizette -Original Message- From: Chris Hoelscher choelsc...@humana.com Sent: May 15, 2013 12:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: load module Good day We are running an IBM monitor to intercept every OPEN

Re: load module

2013-05-15 Thread Ed Finnell
Where does it live? pfx.PRODUCT.VRM.loadlib If it's in LINKLST then isrddn should find it. Otherwise have to look at the DB/2 STC jcl for loadlibs. In a message dated 5/15/2013 3:06:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, stars...@mindspring.com writes: Are there any eye catchers in the module to

Re: load module

2013-05-15 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Thanks to all - by spying on the user's TSO session to see what tools he/she was accessing during the session, I found the tool to be File Aid for DB2 Again thanks to everyone for their comments and helpful suggestions Chris hoelscher Technology Architect | Database Infrastructure Services

Re: HOST feature or understand a sentence

2013-05-15 Thread Phil Smith
John McKown wrote: According to IBM, you cannot get a z/OS license for a Hercules based machine. It has been asked for by many, for a hobbyist environment. Right. And Platform Solutions not only proved that IBM wasn't interested, but that IBM would aggressively fight attempts to exploit

Re: Destination z -- Back to the Future -- Don't Reinvent Mainframe Wheels

2013-05-15 Thread Tony Harminc
On 15 May 2013 14:08, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, well I didn't say it was a _good_ idea grin/. Actually, if the epoch were moved BACK in time, then the TOD value would need to be increased to keep the date the same. Which is just what happened with MVT and MVS; the

Re: ADRDSSU performance degradation

2013-05-15 Thread Peter Vander Woude
Here's some more info. I've got a volume, that is online to our production lpar and one of our test lpars. If I run a full volume dump on my test lpar, it uses 6.88 seconds of cpu time. If I run the job on my production lpar, it uses 20.86 cpu seconds. Using Mainview and doing a trace of

z/OS VSAM FTP Advice?

2013-05-15 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
Dear Group, I have been looking at ways to FTP VSAM files between two z/OS systems. I learned that VSE totally supports FTPing of VSAM files, even when VSE is the server. But I don't have a VSE system to bounce my z/OS VSAM files off of. I found something called DDMFTP from the

Re: ADRDSSU performance degradation

2013-05-15 Thread Peter Vander Woude
Ok, Finally figured out the problem. I had inadvertently left component trace for SYSRSM on, after working on debugging a SA78-18 abend. Turned it off, and we're back to normal! Yeah!!!

Re: HOST feature or understand a sentence

2013-05-15 Thread Scott Ford
You run just about any system in vbox or VMware we do, including various variants of Linux .. I understand IBM fighting hercules but ...wouldn't it also bring in more business like zpdt does ? Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On May 15,

Re: load module

2013-05-15 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/15/2013 1:42 PM, Chris Hoelscher wrote: Thanks to all - by spying on the user's TSO session to see what tools he/she was accessing during the session, I found the tool to be File Aid for DB2 Really? File-Aid doesn't support EAV?! I would have expected it to be one of the first products

Re: DB2 + REUSASID(YES)

2013-05-15 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/15/2013 10:15 PM, Jim Mulder wrote: This was previously discussed on IBM-MAIN in August 2012 under the subject Re: REPLACEMENT ASID SHORTAGE My comment can be found here: