OK guys, you are pulling me kicking and screaming towards Unix and I must admit
that there is a point in what you are saying. So I made a decision:
1. In the short term
I am already geared towards working with PDS and classic z/OS environment.
Also adding PDS functionality to PCREGREP is
On 4/08/2013 10:04 AM, Ze'ev Atlas wrote:
I just built pcre-8.33 and was impressed by how easy it was build. I ran
./configure --enable-ebcdic amp; make and it built clean straight off the
bat. I ran the test suite and had a quick look at pcregrep which is
significantly more powerful
than POSIX
This may piss off a number of people - for those that feel they have a
legitimate gripe for being insufficiently appreciated I apologise in advance.
Plenty of others know we all appreciate what they do.
For (some of) the new-age stuff, Dave Crawford has recently (?) gone out of his
way to help.
Crayford ...dammit
Sorry mate.
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This may piss off a number of people - for those that feel
I just discovered I can do such as:
//SOURCE PROC
//CEXEC PGM=ASMA90
//SYSIN DD * For caller to override.
// DD * Main body of code
MACRO
TESTIT CSECT
...
END
// PEND
... and the caller can
In
cahtjz9lnigefbhka_xvptk9rg6xp9hunna8snjqxnpyovdm...@mail.gmail.com,
on 08/03/2013
at 10:17 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com said:
Personally, I wish C had never seen the light of day and PL/I had the
place of COBOL.
AOL. You are me.
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In 4899683233769357.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/02/2013
at 11:11 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
OK. s/reentrant/sharable/, in the sense that the segment containing
the CMS nucleus be shared among many Virtual Machines.
CMS is designed to have a static
On 4/08/2013 9:59 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 16:30:21 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
...
4. build the software
cd pcre-8.33
./configure --enable-ascii amp; gmake
...
Simple as that. Took less than 10 minutes end-to-end.
Surprising. I never got configure to
In
CAHtJz9J_1gzPgLDAOi=p9+agnuk=gRDx-iBdeG_+v6F_Ew=8...@mail.gmail.com,
on 08/03/2013
at 05:21 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com said:
Generally, the more PL/I like a language is, the better I like it.
The original if flawed assertion that COBOL was English like
Made sense only to
In 1229979691582383.wa.zatlas1yahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/04/2013
at 12:59 AM, Ze'ev Atlas zatl...@yahoo.com said:
The world of text editor users is divided into three groups, those
that believe that vi is God's gift to humanity, those that believe
that vi is a bug, not a feature, and
On 4/08/2013 10:38 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In 1229979691582383.wa.zatlas1yahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/04/2013
at 12:59 AM, Ze'ev Atlas zatl...@yahoo.com said:
The world of text editor users is divided into three groups, those
that believe that vi is God's gift to humanity,
Is -DB2T a pseudo-command prefix intercepted and processed by an automation
package? If so, verify the details in automation to determine the actual
routing and scope of the command.
- Don Imbriale
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Jim Mooney jmoo...@princesscruises.comwrote:
Hello list;
We
I suspect that English, or indeed any natural language, is a basket
case for the unambiguous specification of an executable program.
The notion of making COBOL English-like has the effect of making it long-winded.
The whole idea of making programming 'easy' needs to be discarded.
There was a
In 51fe6a71.2060...@gmail.com, on 08/04/2013
at 10:51 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said:
You don't mention Eclipse
There are also a number of other editors that some people swear by.
That covers the editors that I didn't mention explicitly, e.g., BRIEF,
Kate. I suspect that there
I feel so abused. I actually like vim, especially gvim. Once again, I am
totally non-main-stream.
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 9:51 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/08/2013 10:38 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In
Ah, we are taking you from The Century of the Fruitbat into The Century
of the Anchovy, are we? If you, or anybody else, understands that without
doing a Google/Bing search, I'm impressed by your taste in books!
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Ze'ev Atlas zatl...@yahoo.com wrote:
Why not build
I've been considering Slickedit. But it is $299 for a perpetual single user
license. A bit steep for me when I'm just a dilettante on Linux. For work,
I use ISPF edit and a z/OS shell via ssh. As I've previously confessed, I
use vim on Linux. But I'm not into heavy editing. Mainly shell, Perl, and
On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:38:12 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
The world of text editor users is divided into three groups, those
that believe that vi is God's gift to humanity, those that believe
that vi is a bug, not a feature, and those that use ISPF
Vi is a study in fencepost errors.
Yes, that would be a Release 13 thing. And yes my October residency will
explore some of the value of this and, particularly, the 2.1 enhancements
- for job cloning.
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM
While I admit to using an SPF clone[1] on my PC, I believe that emacs
is more common. As to vi, it may well be The Editor From Hell, but it
is also the only editor that you can count on finding in an arbitrary
*ix system. So keep[2] vi.
My first computer language was Assembler/360. When the PC's
In
CAAJSdjj1OOA=iupx5KGSMtXL9O86=tx739b7s8nf1huhsca...@mail.gmail.com,
on 08/04/2013
at 10:12 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
Ah, we are taking you from The Century of the Fruitbat into The
Century of the Anchovy, are we?
I'm not really up to date on O'Reilly colophons;
In 0918746873146832.wa.zatlas1yahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/04/2013
at 12:45 PM, Ze'ev Atlas zatl...@yahoo.com said:
my first text editor was the cryptic and arcane ISPF.
I nver found ISPF/PDF EDIT to be cryptic or arcane, and it was
certainly better[1] than ATS, CRJEor TOS EDIT.
On the
On 8/3/2013 at 12:11 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
OK. s/reentrant/sharable/, in the sense that the segment containing
the CMS nucleus be shared among many Virtual Machines. I believe
nothing similar can be done with the z/OS nucleus. Perhaps I'm
wrong; can it be done?
On 8/4/2013 at 12:24 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
I was lately shocked and dismayed to discover on a certain Linux
system that visudo dropped me into not vi, but nano. I
can't even figure out where that's configured; perhaps it's
compiled in. How could they!?
According
On 8/4/2013 10:28 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
Admittedly the phonetic spelling isn't, and there are a lot of near
synonyms, but basket case seems to be overstatin the case? How is
English worse than, e.g., Frisian, German, Romance languages, Semitic
languages, Slavic languages?
The
Carpe Jugulum by Sir Terry Pratchett. Nothing to do wit O'Reilly, or even
computers. But in the books, that was said to indicate progress into a new
era. Such as using z/OS UNIX when it is appropriate. Rather than, like my
coworkers, rejecting it because it is different from what they are used to.
Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
begin extract
The worst problem with English is that words are overloaded (according
to one estimate I saw, there are 13 meanings per word on average).
/end extract
This is certainly a problem for English-like programming languages.
In other contexts it is helpful.
On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 12:21:38 -0600, Mark Post wrote:
There is support built into the Linux kernel to create a Named Saved System
(NSS) of itself when booting. (NSS is proper term here, since you can issue
an IPL command against an NSS, which you cannot do with a DCSS (DisContiguous
Saved
Sir Terry's Carpe jugulum is correct Latin for Seize the throat by
analogy with Carpe diem, Seize the day.
Jugulum is Latin for throat. (The jugular vein in so called because
it is in the throat.) It suggests ruthlessness or rashness rather
more than it does leading- or bleeding-edgism.
As
On 8/4/2013 at 04:34 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
And here, I'm not up to speed on my jargon. Since I can say,
CP IPL CMS, does that mean CMS is a NSS? I had always
thought of it as a DCSS.
CMS is indeed an NSS, not a DCSS.
After that gets saved to spool, any z/VM guest
On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 12:25:57 -0600, Mark Post wrote:
According to the man page:
The following environment variables may be consulted depending on the value of
the editor and env_editor sudoers settings:
VISUAL Invoked by visudo as the editor to use
EDITOR Used by visudo if VISUAL is not set
On 5/08/2013 6:47 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 12:25:57 -0600, Mark Post wrote:
According to the man page:
The following environment variables may be consulted depending on the value of
the editor and env_editor sudoers settings:
VISUAL Invoked by visudo as the editor to use
And I will stop trying to make any jokes. I'm just no good at it because it
appears that nobody really gets them in the way that I intended.
On Aug 4, 2013 4:46 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
Sir Terry's Carpe jugulum is correct Latin for Seize the throat by
analogy with Carpe diem,
On 4/08/2013 11:18 PM, John McKown wrote:
I've been considering Slickedit. But it is $299 for a perpetual single user
license. A bit steep for me when I'm just a dilettante on Linux. For work,
I use ISPF edit and a z/OS shell via ssh. As I've previously confessed, I
use vim on Linux. But I'm not
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