Re: JES3 job ids

2014-07-25 Thread Barbara Nitz
Thanks so much, Klaus! The things you've cited fit the note on the JES3 service that I had found. I had gotten the impression that JES3 primarily uses job numbers and that it is up to the product presenting information to get a jobid and present it one way or another. Barbara

Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

2014-07-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1406226811.17805.251.camel@localhost, on 07/24/2014 at 02:33 PM, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com said: I was told once that one of the advantages of HASP was that it essentially reintroduced partitions to MVT (after MVT got rid of partitions). Was this really so? Partitions are MFT; MVT

Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

2014-07-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1406227187.17805.254.camel@localhost, on 07/24/2014 at 02:39 PM, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com said: On Thu, 2014-07-24 at 13:27 -0400, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: MFT-II/RASP work was ignored That tickles a neuron. Was there not a RASP component to OS/VS1 JES? No. Could you be

Re: Find member in Linklist through JCL?

2014-07-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In captsokyo_a2cdfoxvoxdksshomxth5ff4ecjpzwbmndi7wm...@mail.gmail.com, on 07/24/2014 at 03:11 PM, Bill Ashton bill00ash...@gmail.com said: Hi friends...I am having a bad brain day...Is there a common utility that can run unauthorized which will show me if module (ABC) exists in a Linklist

Re: 4 hour rolling average MSU calculation

2014-07-25 Thread Richards, Robert B.
The 4hr rolling average is based on the last 48 *five minute* intervals, regardless of any sort of capping. Good luck with the prediction. My users are not very predictable. :-) Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: 4 hour rolling average MSU calculation

2014-07-25 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:00:16 -0500, Munif Sadek wrote: Reason I am asking this question is that I can easily find out how long the system has been capped and would like to predict how long the system will be capped based on our projected workloads and service requirements. This is

Re: 4 hour rolling average MSU calculation

2014-07-25 Thread David Crayford
I'm not smart enough to understand it! Why don't IBM just drop the price for smaller customers? On 25/07/2014 5:56 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:00:16 -0500, Munif Sadek wrote: Reason I am asking this question is that I can easily find out how long the system has been

Re: z/OS 1.13 Owner for Java files

2014-07-25 Thread Jantje.
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:13:50 +, Gary Snider gsni...@central-insurance.com wrote: However, when I was looking at some of the JAVA files, I now notice that the owner is now my UID: Not sure if this will cause any problems. But it is easy enough to correct: use chown command in

Re: Find member in Linklist through JCL?

2014-07-25 Thread Bill Ashton
Thanks for these great suggestions. I think I will try the ISRDDN first, as it does not need special programming. Thanks again, everyone! Billy On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In

Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

2014-07-25 Thread Dana Mitchell
The technology is available on another IBM platform, Power7 with PowerVM Enterprise edition has a feature called Active Memory Deduplication. I have no idea how widespread the adoption and use of this feature is. Active Memory™ Deduplication is a feature that is available on systems that have

Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

2014-07-25 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2014-07-24 at 19:30 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 1406227187.17805.254.camel@localhost, on 07/24/2014 at 02:39 PM, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com said: Was there not a RASP component to OS/VS1 JES? No. Could you be thinking of RES? Could be. I read a lot of code in

Find member in Linklist through JCL?

2014-07-25 Thread Peter Relson
CSVQUERY is mentioned. That is not the answer. It will tell you if something is in LPA. It will give you information about something in the job pack area. It will not tell you if something is in the LNKLST. And of course it will not tell you in which data set. If willing to write a program,

Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

2014-07-25 Thread Tim Zielke
Thank you all for the responses. I appreciate it! My question was specific to load modules in a PDS/PDSE on z/OS, so I believe no one has contradicted Jim's answer is no below for that use case. Thanks, Tim -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

2014-07-25 Thread John Gilmore
Avoidance would seem to be better than detection and 'deduplication'. If 1) the execution loader has brought a load module or program object into storage and 2) that executable is marked refreshable and/or reentrant, the execution loader will not bring second or subseq On 7/25/14, David Andrews

Re: Find member in Linklist through JCL?

2014-07-25 Thread Skip Robinson
Since no has mentioned it, I should point out that the PDS command, available on the mods tape, as well as its proprietary progeny (StarTool), includes a FINDMOD function that will identify all locations where a load module could be found in the current environment, all the way from STEPLIB to

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-25 Thread Pommier, Rex
Esmie, Type in the BNDS command as a line command, and it will insert a line into your edit session with and at the beginning and end. You can then put the anywhere you wish. Ex: ** * Top of Data ** =BNDS

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-25 Thread Steve Comstock
On 7/25/2014 7:50 AM, esmie moo wrote: Good Morning Gentle Readers I am trying the bounds command because I want to make a universal change between columns 35 to 50. I tried the HELP BNDS doc however it is not very clear. Here is what it says: The bounds may then be changed by overtyping

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-25 Thread Bill Ashton
When you are editing the member, you can either enter BNDS 35 50 on the command line, or enter BNDS on one of the data lines, and then put the in col 35 and the in col 50. When done, don't forget to enter BNDS (with nothing) in the command line to reset the bounds. B On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-25 Thread Hardee, Chuck
Type BNDS in the left column where the line numbers are and press enter. This will display a line showing the current boundaries with and . On that line, type a and where you want your boundaries to be and press enter. That will update the line and you should be good to go. Charles (Chuck)

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-25 Thread Pommier, Rex
This can also be done as a command line command: BNDS 35 80 which will insert the BNDS line in your edit session showing the boundaries. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-25 Thread John P Kalinich
Just include the boundaries on the change command. change all 'string1' 'string2' 35 50 Regards, John K Esmie from the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on 07/25/2014 08:50:07 AM: I am trying the bounds command because I want to make a universal change between

Re: Find member in Linklist through JCL?

2014-07-25 Thread John P Kalinich
PDS does not have a FINDMOD subcommand. As Peter explained, it would require authorization. Regards, John K Skip from the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on 07/25/2014 08:47:57 AM: Since no has mentioned it, I should point out that the PDS command, available on

Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

2014-07-25 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
sipp...@sg.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes: z/VM performs such magic in at least three different ways: Discontiguous Saved Segments, Named Saved Systems, and VM Data Spaces. These mechanisms are probably somewhat relevant to z/OS when it operates as a z/VM guest. I hate to disagree with Jim

Re: CA-DISK (DMS) QUESTION

2014-07-25 Thread John Dawes
Craig, Thanks for your help. The information was very helpful. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:04:17 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote: Just include the boundaries on the change command. change all 'string1' 'string2' 35 50 The Subject: refers to the TSO EDIT command. All the replies I see seem to pertain to the ISPF Edit command. -- gil

ALTERING DEVTYPE IN THE CATALOG ENTRY

2014-07-25 Thread willie bunter
Good Day To All We have a serious problem. We got rid of all our 3480 type drives however a user needs to read some very old data. I was wondering if I can alter the CATALOG ENTRY of the DEVTYPE to 3490? If so, would you have an example. Below is a LISTCAT of the user's tape dsn: NONVSAM

Re: ALTERING DEVTYPE IN THE CATALOG ENTRY

2014-07-25 Thread Willie Bunter
Ouch !! That is bad news that the entry cannot be modified. Thanks for the info. I will ask the user to code the UNIT VOLSER parms. Thanks to everybody. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-25 Thread Greg Shirey
Possibly because there is no BOUNDS operand to the TSO EDIT command? Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 9:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: ALTERING DEVTYPE IN THE CATALOG ENTRY

2014-07-25 Thread Staller, Allan
Just hard code the unit type in you JCL... // DD DSN=,UNIT=3490,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=(volser1,volser2). This may not be practical for a large list of volumes, but should work just fine for the example shown. Al Staller | Z Systems Programmer | KBM Group | (Tel) 972 664-3565 |

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
Greg, Correct. I was working from memory and it was (unfortunately) faulty. No BOUNDS in Native TSO EDIT So the second option of using REXX or CLIST with ISPF EDIT MACRO may do what is requested. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
It was not clear if you are using NATIVE TSO EDIT or if you are using ISPF There are two lists you may wish to join if you have not done so already TSO/REXXURL to join: http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?TSO-REXX ISPFURL to join:

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Native TSO EDIT does not have a bounds command. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 13:04 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS It was not clear if you are using NATIVE TSO EDIT or

ICSF Master Keys

2014-07-25 Thread Frank Swarbrick
The DES-MK (MASTER) key is a double length DES key which is used to encrypt other symetric keys for storage in the CKDS.  The ASYM-MK (PKAMASTR) is a triple length key.  Is it also a DES key, with the only difference being the length of the key and that its usage is for storing RSA private keys

Re: ICSF Master Keys

2014-07-25 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Yes!  Thank you very much! Frank From: Greg Boyd gregb...@mainframecrypto.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 1:23 PM Subject: Re: ICSF Master Keys The DES-MK is used to encrypt secure DES operational keys stored in the CKDS.  The

Re: Beginners question about SHARE

2014-07-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:37:29 -0400, Charles Mills wrote: How is the Z platform served by making how to attend your first SHARE a more arcane question than how to attain the highest rank of Freemasonry? Nonsense. This kind of wild exaggeration ruins your credibility. I know it has been

Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

2014-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:57:15 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:17:48 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on at 09:42 AM, John Gilmore said: If 1) the execution loader has brought a load module or program object into storage and 2) that executable is marked refreshable

Re: Beginners question about SHARE

2014-07-25 Thread Linda
Charles, Sir, you are sorely misinformed. Please actually review the materials on the current www.SHARE.org website and my recent posts to this thread. Also, there is no restriction on the size of the company that joins, large or small. Many people, if they follow the lookup directions I

Re: Beginners question about SHARE

2014-07-25 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 25, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Charles Mills wrote: How is the Z platform served by making how to attend your first SHARE a more arcane question than how to attain the highest rank of Freemasonry? There should be a big banner on the Web site welcome to YOUR first SHARE. Agreed there

Re: Beginners question about SHARE

2014-07-25 Thread Clark Morris
On 25 Jul 2014 15:53:51 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Tom, c'mon - he was obviously being funny, and there's equally obviously some level of problem, based on the fact that the OP had looked, and others have echoed that it's not obvious (I couldn't find it trivially, either).

Re: Beginners question about SHARE

2014-07-25 Thread Clark Morris
On 25 Jul 2014 16:35:52 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Thank you to all who have responded to this thread. I would like to provide a consolidated response since there are several questions that have been raised. The fee structure for SHARE Events is on the SHARE web site, on the

Re: ALTERING DEVTYPE IN THE CATALOG ENTRY

2014-07-25 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 10:23 -0500 on 07/25/2014, Willie Bunter wrote about Re: ALTERING DEVTYPE IN THE CATALOG ENTRY: x-charset utf-8Ouch !! That is bad news that the entry cannot be modified.  Thanks for the info. I will ask the user to code the UNIT VOLSER parms. Thanks to everybody.