Re: Reading a virtual tape (AWS) on windows or unix
Google for AWSBROWSE, main site here: http://www.softdevlabs.com/awsbrowse.html HTH Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 2:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Reading a virtual tape (AWS) on windows or unix Hi, Does anyone know of a way to read a virtual tape file created by the AWSSL program from CBT 585 on windows or unix? Thanks Gadi -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Reading a virtual tape (AWS) on windows or unix
Hi, Does anyone know of a way to read a virtual tape file created by the AWSSL program from CBT 585 on windows or unix? Thanks Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי חברת מלם מערכות בעמ ו/או כל חברת בת ו/או חברה קשורה שלה (להלן : החברה) וזכויות החתימה בהן, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam and/or its subsidiaries (hereinafter : Malam) regulations and signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the Malam, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the Malam seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Reading a virtual tape (AWS) on windows or unix
Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 10:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Reading a virtual tape (AWS) on windows or unix Google for AWSBROWSE, main site here: http://www.softdevlabs.com/awsbrowse.html HTH Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 2:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Reading a virtual tape (AWS) on windows or unix Hi, Does anyone know of a way to read a virtual tape file created by the AWSSL program from CBT 585 on windows or unix? Thanks Gadi -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי חברת מלם מערכות בעמ ו/או כל חברת בת ו/או חברה קשורה שלה (להלן : החברה) וזכויות החתימה בהן, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam and/or its subsidiaries (hereinafter : Malam) regulations and signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the Malam, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the Malam seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z990 compatibility feature
W dniu 2015-07-19 o 03:09, Tony Thigpen pisze: We have OS390 2.10 and we are wanting to run it on a Z10 native we have a 2098. We had heard that you could install the Z990 compatibility maintenance and run OS390 2.10 on a Z10 so we installed the Z990 compatibility maintenance. What else has to be done to run OS390 2.10 native on a Z10? We only see the the 2084 in the HCD. Can we get the HCD fmid for the z10? There is no z10 compatibility maintenance for OS/390. The last *supported* configurations was OS/390 2.10 with the feature on z990. Later machines were not supported to run OS/390, even with the add-on. Side note: this is deep sh*t situation. You have system which is way out of support, with no service required to run it on anything from z990, and you are guaranteed your system will not run without the feature. Not may not run. Assuming you'll get the compatibility feature, you are still in may not run mode, because it's z10, not z990. How to solve it? My humble advice: order current version of z/OS and install it on z10 or other machine. Then try to move your apps and data onto new system. Work on copy, so you can fail and retry as many times as you need. (I have been in similar situation, done, that.) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2015 r. kapitał zakładowy mBanku S.A. (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.840.228 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Reading a virtual tape (AWS) on windows or unix
MFNETDISK (MCD) is able to do so. MFNETDISK (MCD) can run under real or/and emulated MF. If you like more detail send me email privately. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:25 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Another way is to install Hercules-390 on the Windows on UNIX (Linux?) system. It is a S/370, XA, and zSeries emulator which uses AWS files for its tape emulation. It is open source, but has binaries for Windows and some Linux distributions (for RedHat Fedora Linux: dnf install hercules). There are commands like: HETGET (read a tape file), HETMAP (do a tape map function), and others. HET stands for Hercules Emulated Tape, I think. But it supports AWS in addition to Hercules-390 enhanced AWS tape files. http://www.hercules-390.org/ 2015-07-20 1:04 GMT-05:00 גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com: Hi, Does anyone know of a way to read a virtual tape file created by the AWSSL program from CBT 585 on windows or unix? Thanks Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי חברת מלם מערכות בעמ ו/או כל חברת בת ו/או חברה קשורה שלה (להלן : החברה) וזכויות החתימה בהן, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam and/or its subsidiaries (hereinafter : Malam) regulations and signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the Malam, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the Malam seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted. Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be. He's about as useful as a wax frying pan. 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Thanks. Shai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Reading a virtual tape (AWS) on windows or unix
Another way is to install Hercules-390 on the Windows on UNIX (Linux?) system. It is a S/370, XA, and zSeries emulator which uses AWS files for its tape emulation. It is open source, but has binaries for Windows and some Linux distributions (for RedHat Fedora Linux: dnf install hercules). There are commands like: HETGET (read a tape file), HETMAP (do a tape map function), and others. HET stands for Hercules Emulated Tape, I think. But it supports AWS in addition to Hercules-390 enhanced AWS tape files. http://www.hercules-390.org/ 2015-07-20 1:04 GMT-05:00 גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com: Hi, Does anyone know of a way to read a virtual tape file created by the AWSSL program from CBT 585 on windows or unix? Thanks Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי חברת מלם מערכות בעמ ו/או כל חברת בת ו/או חברה קשורה שלה (להלן : החברה) וזכויות החתימה בהן, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam and/or its subsidiaries (hereinafter : Malam) regulations and signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the Malam, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the Malam seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted. Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be. He's about as useful as a wax frying pan. 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Fast JSON parsing - was Re: opinion? LISTCAT (equivalent) with XML / JSON output
FYI, If you are interested in the most efficient JSON parser out there check out jsmn (jasmine) http://zserge.com/jsmn.html. It's an incredibly simple low level API that does no memory allocations and is a thing of absolute beauty. Ironically, simple APIs are always hard to design. Here's an example of how to use it http://alisdair.mcdiarmid.org/2012/08/14/jsmn-example.html. I compiled this in Metal/C so it can be used in any language that can knock-up the mappings. This could easily be offload to a zIIP. On 17/07/2015 10:30 PM, John McKown wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 9:03 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: IBM are going after JSON big time with the new z/OS Connect tooling which transforms JSON into data structures like COBOL copybooks etc. I hadn't heard of the z/OS Connect tooling. Sounds interesting. I see what I can find on it. That's all good but is JSON always the best choice when a simple text protocol can do the same job without the bloat https://github.com/influxdb/influxdb/pull/2696. XML is even worse. Thanks for the URL. I'll be looking at that. One reason that I was looking at JSON or XML is that not every entry in a LISTCAT has the same information in it. The referenced format does seem to accommodate this because it appears to me that each line is ad hoc formatted. One thing that I, personally, like about XML is that you have have a DTD which precisely defines what is and what is not acceptable as input. And, at least for me, the size of the data is not overly important. Given that I have a 2 TiB HD in my at home (and more on two separate NAS boxes), and most data centers have space in the 100s of TiB (or even more), I don't know if JSON's bloat, compared to the referenced format, is all that terrible. And, of course, for at rest data, the XML/JSON can be compressed (gzip, bzip, xz). If I were truly worried about it, I would probably use some sort of delimited format where the first field of each line identified the schema for the rest of the line. Such as: VL (VSAM LDS), VK (VSAM KSDS), VR (VSAM RRDS), VE (VSAM ESDS), AL (ALIAS), NV (NONVSAM), VV (VSAM VVRDS), and so on. I guess I was more trying to go with something which is current and standardized. The referenced format appears to be in flux and is not an ISO standard. Which reminds me that I really should go over to the ISO site(s) and see if they have had other textual format standard. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
model-9 and model-27 mixture
Hi, please advise... is it ok to have a mixture of model-9 and model-27 volumes in one sms storage group? This is for sequential data sets. Regards Nedbank Limited Reg No 1951/09/06. The following link displays the names of the Nedbank Board of Directors and Company Secretary. [ http://www.nedbank.co.za/terms/DirectorsNedbank.htm ] This email is confidential and is intended for the addressee only. The following link will take you to Nedbank's legal notice. [ http://www.nedbank.co.za/terms/EmailDisclaimer.htm ] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: model-9 and model-27 mixture
I have all versions of dasd in my pools. For all types of datasets (VSAM,SEQ, etc...) So Mod3/9/27/54 No issues doing this. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Buckton, T. (Theo) Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 7:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: model-9 and model-27 mixture Hi, please advise... is it ok to have a mixture of model-9 and model-27 volumes in one sms storage group? This is for sequential data sets. Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: model-9 and model-27 mixture
Thanks. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: 20 July 2015 04:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: model-9 and model-27 mixture I have all versions of dasd in my pools. For all types of datasets (VSAM,SEQ, etc...) So Mod3/9/27/54 No issues doing this. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Buckton, T. (Theo) Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 7:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: model-9 and model-27 mixture Hi, please advise... is it ok to have a mixture of model-9 and model-27 volumes in one sms storage group? This is for sequential data sets. Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Nedbank Limited Reg No 1951/09/06. The following link displays the names of the Nedbank Board of Directors and Company Secretary. [ http://www.nedbank.co.za/terms/DirectorsNedbank.htm ] This email is confidential and is intended for the addressee only. The following link will take you to Nedbank's legal notice. [ http://www.nedbank.co.za/terms/EmailDisclaimer.htm ] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: model-9 and model-27 mixture
W dniu 2015-07-20 o 16:29, Buckton, T. (Theo) pisze: Hi, please advise... is it ok to have a mixture of model-9 and model-27 volumes in one sms storage group? This is for sequential data sets. IMHO yes, it is OK. Some remarks: There are some flavors of PS: LARGE PS, Extended Format PS and just PS. L-PS and EF-PS are NOT limited to 64k tracks per volume, so you can use whole volume capacity without any limitations. Regular PS dataset won't use more than approx. 3GB (64k TRKs) per volume. Of course remaining space can be used by another PS. However this issue has no relationship to the mixture itself. It is related to mod-9 and bigger volumes, mixed or not. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2015 r. kapitał zakładowy mBanku S.A. (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.840.228 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Fast JSON parsing - was Re: opinion? LISTCAT (equivalent) with XML / JSON output
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:12 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: FYI, If you are interested in the most efficient JSON parser out there check out jsmn (jasmine) http://zserge.com/jsmn.html. It's an incredibly simple low level API that does no memory allocations and is a thing of absolute beauty. Ironically, simple APIs are always hard to design. Here's an example of how to use it http://alisdair.mcdiarmid.org/2012/08/14/jsmn-example.html. I compiled this in Metal/C so it can be used in any language that can knock-up the mappings. This could easily be offload to a zIIP. Thanks for the pointer. This is a on my own project which has been put on the back burner. I'm fighting a hardware upgrade issue at home right now. I think the SATA interface on the motherboard of one of my systems is getting flaky. And the old, IDE, CD-ROM has gone totally silent, along with the main HD getting a lot of read errors. So I put in some more memroy, a 512 MiB SSD, and 2 (older) SATA HDs I had laying around; ordered new PCIe SATA controller DVD burner. I did a fresh install of RedHat Fedora on the SSD. Now in the process of re-installing all the software. Whew! Not easy for a man with arthritis. -- Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted. Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be. He's about as useful as a wax frying pan. 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: model-9 and model-27 mixture
And in customers I see lots of cases of mixed-size-volume pools, including custom volume sizes. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Buckton, T. (Theo) the...@nedbank.co.za To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 20/07/2015 15:32 Subject:Re: model-9 and model-27 mixture Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Thanks. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: 20 July 2015 04:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: model-9 and model-27 mixture I have all versions of dasd in my pools. For all types of datasets (VSAM,SEQ, etc...) So Mod3/9/27/54 No issues doing this. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Buckton, T. (Theo) Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 7:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: model-9 and model-27 mixture Hi, please advise... is it ok to have a mixture of model-9 and model-27 volumes in one sms storage group? This is for sequential data sets. Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Nedbank Limited Reg No 1951/09/06. The following link displays the names of the Nedbank Board of Directors and Company Secretary. [ http://www.nedbank.co.za/terms/DirectorsNedbank.htm ] This email is confidential and is intended for the addressee only. The following link will take you to Nedbank's legal notice. [ http://www.nedbank.co.za/terms/EmailDisclaimer.htm ] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Reading a virtual tape (AWS) on windows or unix
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:31:19 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: 2015-07-20 2:04 GMT-04:00 גדי בן אבי: Does anyone know of a way to read a virtual tape file created by the AWSSL program from CBT 585 on windows or unix If necessary you can write your own code to do so in any common language. The format is not complex, and the basic format is documented, e.g. in Sam Golob's article on AWSTAPE on the CBT site itself http://cbttape.org/awstape.htm . You could write e.g. a REXX version in an hour or so. And of course the source code for several programs that implement it is available for examination. If portability is a concern, beware of big-endian/little-endian pitfalls. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: model-9 and model-27 mixture
I'm constantly amazed at the number of times this type of question still comes up considering how long the technology has been around! - -teD - Original Message From: Buckton, T. (Theo) Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 10:32 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: model-9 and model-27 mixture Thanks. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: 20 July 2015 04:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: model-9 and model-27 mixture I have all versions of dasd in my pools. For all types of datasets (VSAM,SEQ, etc...) So Mod3/9/27/54 No issues doing this. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Buckton, T. (Theo) Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 7:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: model-9 and model-27 mixture Hi, please advise... is it ok to have a mixture of model-9 and model-27 volumes in one sms storage group? This is for sequential data sets. Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Nedbank Limited Reg No 1951/09/06. The following link displays the names of the Nedbank Board of Directors and Company Secretary. [ http://www.nedbank.co.za/terms/DirectorsNedbank.htm ] This email is confidential and is intended for the addressee only. The following link will take you to Nedbank's legal notice. [ http://www.nedbank.co.za/terms/EmailDisclaimer.htm ] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Product Remove from z/OS
First, I think we understand the requirement to provide an SMP/E function that removes a product from an existing set of zones and libraries. (Nothing should be inferred about when or whether we will ever provide it.) Having said that... For the time being, the safest way to approach this is to either build products you might need to remove later separately, in their own zones and libraries; or, build a new system that excludes them. Yes, I know one requires (perhaps perfect) foresight and the second is very inconvenient. sfo...@sbcglobal.net (William Smith) wrote: A frequently overlooked but very useful SMP/E publication, Standard Packaging Rules for z/OS-Based Products, SC23-3695-10, Chapter 7, Using MCS to Define Products, page 57, provides an explanation and coding for a sample dummy delete function sysmod to purge a base function. It's even an IBM recommendation (paragraph 1) that during SMP/E product packaging, packagers consider providing users with an example of how to package the ++VER DELETE information separately in a dummy function SYSMOD. I would amend this documentation by adding that it's prudent to inspect and fully understand beforehand all base and dependent functional sysmod relationships before coding a dummy delete function sysmod of any kind. A dummy delete function sysmod consists of two parts: (a) the dummy delete function sysmod itself, and (b) the UCLIN to purge/delete any knowledge by SMP/E within all zones of any remnants of the dummy delete function itself after it has executed. I recommend they be coded as two separate jobs. Finally, submit a SHARE requirement to have SMP/E development incorporate a formally supported and comprehensive mechanism including accompanying documentation within SMP/E itself to delete base and dependent function sysmods with all attendant clean-up of the CSI, zones, and data sets. There is valid business and regulatory justification for this: legal compliance with software licensing terms and conditions as data centers consolidate and with the retirement/withdrawal of obsolete or discontinued IBM and OEM vendor-licensed products. William J. Smith, M.A. EdFormer IBM DFSMS z/OS Integration and Product Packaging Team Lead -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: I need a little help using LISTDSI in a REXX program
In 1437345499.2575590.327683625.2a8a8...@webmail.messagingengine.com, on 07/19/2015 at 11:38 PM, Jeremy Nicoll jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org said: Documentation describes what's returned by the listdsi function as a function code. Exactly; *not* as a return code. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: I need a little help using LISTDSI in a REXX program
On 2015-07-20 11:18, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Documentation describes what's returned by the listdsi function as a function code. Exactly; *not* as a return code. What's in a name? I can sympathize with your pedantry in objecting to the use of the acronym USS contrary to the definition in the IBM glossaries. AFAIK, there's no similar definition of retcode. If the programmer had named the variable aardvark, would it likewise be misleading insofar as it doesn't consume termites? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
VSAM question
To list; Is there a way around the 4 gig limitation when defining a LINEAR cluster on volumes not managed my SMS? I have to download Websphere v8.5 and am attempting to define a ZFS dataset large enough to hold the product plus its myriad of ptfs. Thank you in advance, Bill J. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: VSAM question
Beginning in z/OS V2R1, you can have non-SMS managed VSAM Linear Data Sets that are larger than 4GB, with the Extended Addressability attribute. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.e0zm100/newdasd.htm Regards, Leo -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of william janulin Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 2:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: VSAM question To list; Is there a way around the 4 gig limitation when defining a LINEAR cluster on volumes not managed my SMS? I have to download Websphere v8.5 and am attempting to define a ZFS dataset large enough to hold the product plus its myriad of ptfs. Thank you in advance, Bill J. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
RES: VSAM question
Hi, It does not need to be sms managed, but you have to assign a DATACLASS with the appropriated definitions when defining it. Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto BANCO BRADESCO S.A. 4250 / DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: +55 11 3684-2177 R: 42177 3-1404 Fax: +55 11 3684-4427 Banco Bradesco. Patrocinador oficial dos Jogos Olímpicos e Paralímpicos Rio 2016. -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Em nome de william janulin Enviada em: segunda-feira, 20 de julho de 2015 15:57 Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Assunto: VSAM question To list; Is there a way around the 4 gig limitation when defining a LINEAR cluster on volumes not managed my SMS? I have to download Websphere v8.5 and am attempting to define a ZFS dataset large enough to hold the product plus its myriad of ptfs. Thank you in advance, Bill J. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN AVISO LEGAL br...Esta mensagem é destinada exclusivamente para a(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigida, podendo conter informação confidencial e/ou legalmente privilegiada. Se você não for destinatário desta mensagem, desde já fica notificado de abster-se a divulgar, copiar, distribuir, examinar ou, de qualquer forma, utilizar a informação contida nesta mensagem, por ser ilegal. Caso você tenha recebido esta mensagem por engano, pedimos que nos retorne este E-Mail, promovendo, desde logo, a eliminação do seu conteúdo em sua base de dados, registros ou sistema de controle. Fica desprovida de eficácia e validade a mensagem que contiver vínculos obrigacionais, expedida por quem não detenha poderes de representação. LEGAL ADVICEbr...This message is exclusively destined for the people to whom it is directed, and it can bear private and/or legally exceptional information. If you are not addressee of this message, since now you are advised to not release, copy, distribute, check or, otherwise, use the information contained in this message, because it is illegal. If you received this message by mistake, we ask you to return this email, making possible, as soon as possible, the elimination of its contents of your database, registrations or controls system. The message that bears any mandatory links, issued by someone who has no representation powers, shall be null or void. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 64 bit ICMxx ?
On 19 July 2015 at 11:27, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Hum, just contemplating this. And wondering why IBM didn't do it. There are a lot of other instructions in the ISA which seem, to me, to have lesser utility. So I'm just posting some rambling thoughts. I am looking in the -10 POPS manual on the various instruction formats. I am not a hardware engineer. But I guess that such formats are standardized in order to group them into classes. Each of which has some sort of hardware support. There appear, to me, to be four classes of instructions which are what I think of as pertaining to a single register as a direct operand (as opposed to indirect such as use in a base or index). RX (two subclasses), RXY (two subclasses), RSY (two subclasses). [...] Actually, there is not _any_ currently defined class, as described on page 5-4 of the -10 POPS, into which such an IC instruction could fit. Now, the RXE format has 4 unused bits in it. So perhaps the engineers could make that into two subclasses A -a subclass which only uses 4 bits as at present, and a -b subclass which uses all 8 bit. That gets us an IC with base+12 bit displacement. Now we need to find where to put base+20 bit displacement and an immediate. For the immediate, they could use a new RIE variant (it already has 7) which has a 8 bit mask, similar to the -a variant which has a 4 bit mask. As best as I can see, this would require a new RSL subclass which has an 8 bit mask. I don't think for the likely uses for an ICMG that there is much call for a Y version. In most code I've seen, except where it is being used like LT, ICM is typically used with a zero or small displacement from a moving base register that is really a very local base for a data item. A more important constraint, or at least consideration, is that the mask field should be modifiable by an EXecute instruction, as it is with ICM[x]. This constrains the mask to being in bits 8-15 of the instruction, which could therefore be a single-byte opcode or a two-byte one where the second byte is not in bits 8-15. I don't think there are any instructions that, as you put it pertain[...] to a single register as a direct operand (as opposed to indirect such as use in a base or index) that have that target register not specified in bits 8-15. Another approach would be an instruction of RR[x] format, where the storage operand address is in a register, and the mask is in either a specified register or a hardcoded one (R0, perhaps). This might even allow for a mask of more than 8 bits (64, presumably), leading to a sort of ICMD scheme where the mask applies to more than one register. With the mask in a register, the ability to specify the mask via EXecute becomes unimportant. Well, small fantasies for a Monday morning. Presumably the compiler writers who seem to generate hardware design these days have found no use for such schemes. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Reading a virtual tape (AWS) on windows or unix
2015-07-20 2:04 GMT-04:00 גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com: Does anyone know of a way to read a virtual tape file created by the AWSSL program from CBT 585 on windows or unix If necessary you can write your own code to do so in any common language. The format is not complex, and the basic format is documented, e.g. in Sam Golob's article on AWSTAPE on the CBT site itself http://cbttape.org/awstape.htm . You could write e.g. a REXX version in an hour or so. And of course the source code for several programs that implement it is available for examination. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Product Remove from z/OS
A frequently overlooked but very useful SMP/E publication, Standard Packaging Rules for z/OS-Based Products, SC23-3695-10, Chapter 7, Using MCS to Define Products, page 57, provides an explanation and coding for a sample dummy delete function sysmod to purge a base function. It's even an IBM recommendation (paragraph 1) that during SMP/E product packaging, packagers consider providing users with an example of how to package the ++VER DELETE information separately in a dummy function SYSMOD. I would amend this documentation by adding that it's prudent to inspect and fully understand beforehand all base and dependent functional sysmod relationships before coding a dummy delete function sysmod of any kind. A dummy delete function sysmod consists of two parts: (a) the dummy delete function sysmod itself, and (b) the UCLIN to purge/delete any knowledge by SMP/E within all zones of any remnants of the dummy delete function itself after it has executed. I recommend they be coded as two separate jobs. Finally, submit a SHARE requirement to have SMP/E development incorporate a formally supported and comprehensive mechanism including accompanying documentation within SMP/E itself to delete base and dependent function sysmods with all attendant clean-up of the CSI, zones, and data sets. There is valid business and regulatory justification for this: legal compliance with software licensing terms and conditions as data centers consolidate and with the retirement/withdrawal of obsolete or discontinued IBM and OEM vendor-licensed products. William J. Smith, M.A. EdFormer IBM DFSMS z/OS Integration and Product Packaging Team Lead -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z990 compatibility feature
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 2:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z990 compatibility feature W dniu 2015-07-19 o 03:09, Tony Thigpen pisze: We have OS390 2.10 and we are wanting to run it on a Z10 native we have a 2098. We had heard that you could install the Z990 compatibility maintenance and run OS390 2.10 on a Z10 so we installed the Z990 compatibility maintenance. What else has to be done to run OS390 2.10 native on a Z10? We only see the the 2084 in the HCD. Can we get the HCD fmid for the z10? There is no z10 compatibility maintenance for OS/390. The last *supported* configurations was OS/390 2.10 with the feature on z990. Later machines were not supported to run OS/390, even with the add-on. Side note: this is deep sh*t situation. You have system which is way out of support, with no service required to run it on anything from z990, and you are guaranteed your system will not run without the feature. Not may not run. Assuming you'll get the compatibility feature, you are still in may not run mode, because it's z10, not z990. How to solve it? My humble advice: order current version of z/OS and install it on z10 or other machine. Then try to move your apps and data onto new system. Work on copy, so you can fail and retry as many times as you need. (I have been in similar situation, done, that.) And just by way of encouragement, back around 2010-11 we upgraded three customer sites from OS/390 1.3 (running on Multiprise 2003) to z/OS 1.10 (running on z10) with some applications dating back to the 1970s and earlier. Very few of the applications required any changes (and those were mostly limited to coding errors which subsequent IBM updates started to detect). The major effort was configuring RACF, JES2, and TCPIP to look and feel as close as possible to what the users were used to. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Mainframe Network Protection
Dear Friends, I'm doing a survey to find out how you are doing to protect the attacks mainframe environment if they can help me. I appreciate it. You protect your network TCPIP in attacks mainframe ? How do you do? A) Firewall before the Mainframe or inside B) Uses the SERVAUTH Class and defines all their access networks C) Use other technique? Describe? D) Use of TERMINAL class protection? E) Uses Digital Certificate to access the TN3270 emulator or Citrix. -- *Marco Ferreira* *Security Consultant* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: VSAM question
So you can do the DEFINE CL command and include the DATACLAS parameter that points to a Data Class that allows Extended Format DEF CL (name) DATACLAS(efformat name) Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of william janulin Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 11:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: VSAM question To list; Is there a way around the 4 gig limitation when defining a LINEAR cluster on volumes not managed my SMS? I have to download Websphere v8.5 and am attempting to define a ZFS dataset large enough to hold the product plus its myriad of ptfs. Thank you in advance, Bill J. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Deleting data sets in use
Hello,
We have two sets of IPL volumes named IPLVL1 and IPLVL2.
Data sets on these volumes are cataloged to volser **
If the system is IPLed on IPLVL1, then we rebuild some data sets on IPLVL2, and
vice versa.
We are IPLed on volume IPLVL1 and we want to rebuild data set SYS2.TSO.CLIST on
volume IPLVL2.
Data set SYS2.TSO.CLIST on volume IPLVL1 is in use by many logon procs.
We are having a problem building dataset, SYS2.TSO.CLIST on IPLVL2. .
We build data set SYS2.TSO.CLIST.BUILD on IPLVL2 by copying many different
clists to it. This data set is cataloged to volume IPLVL2 during this process.
We then want to copy SYS2.TSO.CLIST.BUILD, on IPLVL2, overtop the existing data
set, SYS2.TSO.CLIST, on IPLVL2.
We used the following JCL to do this:
//RENAMEEXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//RESVOL DD DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSALLDA,
// VOL=REF=SYS2.TSO.CLIST.BUILD
//SYSIN DD *
COPY
-
INDDNAME(RESVOL)-
OUTDDNAME(RESVOL) -
DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS2.TSO.CLIST.BUILD)) -
RENAMEU((SYS2.TSO.CLIST.BUILD,SYS2.TSO.CLIST))-
NULLMGMTCLAS NULLSTORCLAS -
TOL(ENQF) REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL -
ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP PURGE SPHERE
Sometimes this job runs successfully and sometimes it fails with the following
error:
ADR380E (001)-ALLOC(05), DATA SET SYS2.TSO.CLIST.BUILD NOT PROCESSED,
10
The cause of this error is as follows:
ADR380E (xxx)-m(yy), DATA SET dsname NOT PROCESSED, {reason_code |
reason_code-xxx} [INDEX dsname VOLUME volser]
Explanation: The data set was not copied, restored, converted, or released. The
reason codes (reason_code or reason_code-xxx) are:
10
The movable data set on the receiving volume is smaller than the data set on
the source volume. Failure occurred in the scratch; the data set cannot be
scratched and reallocated.
In this particular case, data set SYS2.TSO.CLIST.BUILD is indeed smaller than
data set SYS2.TSO.CLIST on volume IPLVL2.
The IBM manual recommends we Scratch the data set and rerun the job.
However, scratching the data set before we run the above JCL is a problem:
The data set is always in use, so the following JCL does not run:
//CLEANUP2 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//DD1 DD DISP=(MOD,DELETE,DELETE),DSN=SYS2.TSO.CLIST,
// UNIT=SYSALLDA,
// VOL=REF=SYS2.TSO.CLIST.BUILD
A DISP of (SHR,DELETE,DELETE) has the same problem.
NOTE we use volume references for the volser, so the same JCL will work for
both sets of IPL volumes.
We cannot use the IEHPROGM utility, as you cannot use volume references with
this utility.
Any suggestions to get around this problem would be appreciated.
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Re: Deleting data sets in use
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:01:12 -0500, Fred Kaptein fred.kapt...@hp.com wrote: Hello, We have two sets of IPL volumes named IPLVL1 and IPLVL2. Data sets on these volumes are cataloged to volser ** If the system is IPLed on IPLVL1, then we rebuild some data sets on IPLVL2, and vice versa. We are IPLed on volume IPLVL1 and we want to rebuild data set SYS2.TSO.CLIST on volume IPLVL2. Data set SYS2.TSO.CLIST on volume IPLVL1 is in use by many logon procs. Using IDCAMS, you should be able to rename the copy of SYS2.TSO.CLIST that is not in use, if you have READ access to the RACF (or equivalent security product) FACILITY class profile STGADMIN.DPDSRN.SYS2.TSO.CLIST Once you've renamed the data set you should be able to scratch it. I do NOT know if you'll be able to use ADRDSSU RENAMEU to rename your new data set to SYS2.TSO.CLIST, but this should get you closer to what you want. -- Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: VSAM question
Thank you for the info from those who have responded to my question. Bill J. On Monday, July 20, 2015 4:49 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: So you can do the DEFINE CL command and include the DATACLAS parameter that points to a Data Class that allows Extended Format DEF CL (name) DATACLAS(efformat name) Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of william janulin Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 11:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: VSAM question To list; Is there a way around the 4 gig limitation when defining a LINEAR cluster on volumes not managed my SMS? I have to download Websphere v8.5 and am attempting to define a ZFS dataset large enough to hold the product plus its myriad of ptfs. Thank you in advance, Bill J. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z990 compatibility feature
Hi, I do this kind of upgrade multiple times per year. You would be surprised to know how many sites are still running OS/390 and really old versions of z/OS. You can run OS/390 under z/VM on the Z10, but that is well and truly just a stopgap measure and not a production environment suggestion. Converting from OS/390 to z/OS 1.13 (or 2.2) is a big jump, but easily doable. Depending on your other subsystems and your application dependencies, the entire upgrade should take no longer than 3 months from start to finish. It's the extra subsystems and the non-IBM vendor software that always cause the most problems. If you can supply more information on the software configuration you are currently running with/under OS/390, I can probably point you in the right direction on how to proceed. I am just finishing up a conversion for a County site that needed to replace their mainframe box and so had to move from z/OS 1.4 to z/OS 1.13 (and next to 2.1) so that they could get off an old z/800 and move to a z/BC12. It went very smoothly and except for the fact that their main systems programmer died partway into the conversion (natural causes), there were no big software issues at all. You can also contact me offline if you want and we can discuss where you are software-wise and where you need to position yourself to get things done. Brian Westerman -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
