I can't directly use the link to look at the RFE, but COBOL V5+ already uses
DFP instructions (I don't know if that should be "at least some") with OPT 1 or
2 and ARCH(10) or higher. Their uses is mentioned in the COBOL tuning guides,
which are PDFs which can be linked from the presentation of
Andy,
The S0C1 with that exact set-up does not "normally" happen in COBOL (by which I
mean, by COBOL running in batch).
COBOL programs are not "normally" run under TSO.
There is an explicit run-time message which explains the issue.
The S0C1 is unexpected. It is some artefact of running that
On 13/07/2016 1:29 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
Does anyone on the list use Workload Simulator for testing, load testing,
regression testing?
Wayne,
You might want to ping your old landlord Alan offline. He's our expert
on the floor. He's globe trotting around Europe with
his family at the
Steve, I'm not sure what was difficult about the question. The intent behind it
is "if when next I see reference to a non-COBOL PIC, if it happens to be 11, I
know whether it means 11 or 17". Is it somehow a question which can only be
asked when the answer is needed? "Hey, it's 0-9, who gives a
Does anyone on the list use Workload Simulator for testing, load testing,
regression testing?
I've been asked to possibly run a course and develop coursework on WSIM.
Since IBM outsourced all their training, it appears that this one isn't
covered.
Was there ever a formal training course for
Do you really want the operators involved in this?
They have enough work to do.
Consider cancelling the job period.
Ed
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 11:41 PM, Munif Sadek wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
> We are JES2, z/OS 2.1 and would like batch to issues a WTOR (Confirm Y/N ?)
> if a
Hi Peter,
Bill Klein actually submitted a SHARE requirement for Decimal Floating Point,
and it's now an 'Uncommitted candidate' on the RFE system -
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=89952, so
it's actually closer than you might think.
Cheryl Watson
Somehow we got dinged on this, maybe it was MULC. We had recently done a CMF
conversion and it kept showing up in one of the usage reports but the task(s)
were not active. I'm fairly certain that we had RMF enabled in IFA and had CMF
also running but no RMF tasks active.
From: Al
SCRT only reports on products. It does not report features of products. AND
SCRT only reports on products it knows to be IBM Sub-Capacity products. So SCRT
does not report on RMF, just as SCRT does not report on IMS TM or IMS DB. It
only reports IMS as a product.
As Cheryl wrote if you
On 07/12/2016 05:27 PM, Bill Woodger wrote:
Well, I guess my question was, then, is the 1 in PIC 1, base 10 or base 16? I
now know it to be base 16. I think.
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 00:04:15 -0500, Bill Woodger wrote:
. . .
>
>There are no S0C1s from COBOL IO.
>
For the reason that I explained previously, a missing DD statement can cause
S0C1. As far as I am concerned, that should never happen, but I know it is an
easy mistake
Hi, it's me.
My general thoughts are:
- This type of syntax is supported in a host of other programming languages.
(see below for examples)
- Is it really confusing? For me its more confusing doing all the things that
I've done up to this point because COBOL (prior to the 2002 standard) did
Good-oh. ARCH(10) and ARCH(11) use DFP. Perhaps more so in V6, but the Tuning
Guides are good on that. May see a question about it yet, then :-)
May I expect some Higgs boson could be produced, they are something to do with
quantum exceptions? Rats. That's "quantum excitation". Never mind.
Write it in assembler and call it from COBOL. Or bribe the IBM COBOL team to
slip in support for Decimal Floating Point variables next year whether it is
profitable to IBM or not.
Oh, and BIT variables would be cool too.
Peter
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The PoP gets me wondering how to create a "Simulated Quantum Exception" from
COBOL...
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Yes, Ed. That was the reason for me needing to ask which base it was. If it had
said PIC C, I'd have wildly assumed it was base 16 (given the two presumed
choices).
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On 7/12/2016 2:27 PM, Bill Woodger wrote:
Well, I guess my question was, then, is the 1 in PIC 1, base 10 or base 16? I
now know it to be base 16. I think.
LOL. One is one in all bases. No?
PIC codes are normally expressed in hex. So, a PIC 39
(region-first-translation exception) is
Program Interrupt generally end up as S0Cx abends.
Virtual memory interrupts often assign more memory or recall the page
from dasd to a memory frame.
I/O interrupts handle the completed I/O.
etc.
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Bill Woodger wrote:
> Thanks Mike, and now
Well, I guess my question was, then, is the 1 in PIC 1, base 10 or base 16? I
now know it to be base 16. I think.
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The op code is not a "hex value." Hex is a way of representing binary values
for easy-to-grasp human consumption: X'D2' is more compact and easier to grasp
than 11010010 and a better representation for some purposes than 210. The op
code is a value in storage and it simply is what it is. Some
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 15:32:07 -0500, Bill Woodger wrote:
>Thanks Mike, and now Steve as well. It's all knowledge. Now, is that 1
>decimal, or hexadecimal? Is a PIC (non-PICture) a subset of abend-codes (does
>it include SB37, S222)?
Kind of. MVS turns some program interrupts into S0Cx abends.
Sorry... didn't see Peters original ... check ifa member in parmlib to ensure
you don't have the rmf enabled
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Date: 07/12/2016 4:20 PM (GMT-05:00)
To:
Thanks Mike, and now Steve as well. It's all knowledge. Now, is that 1 decimal,
or hexadecimal? Is a PIC (non-PICture) a subset of abend-codes (does it include
SB37, S222)? I should find something to read. OK, got it. Hex, and "10 and
above - Program checks associated with system-related
PIC 1 == Program Interrupt Code 1. Occurs when one attempts to
execute a Hex value that is not an instruction. Example: X''.
If executable code falls into that (or branches to it, or jumps
to it) one will get a PIC 1.
This then gets converted to a S0C1 on a MVS system (or z/OS for
Hi Peter,
Usually, RMF does NOT show up on the SCRT report that you create to send IBM.
It will show up, however, on their bill coming back (also in Excel format).
Where are you seeing it? If it's on the bill, then here is what is happening:
1. When you sign a license for z/OS, you also
I believe that is the Program Interrupt Code 1 as System 360+ hardware
defines it. z/OS translates it to Abend S0C1 abend.
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Bill Woodger wrote:
> Just to add, I have absolutely no clue (outside of ICL COBOL) what PIC 1 is.
> I'm just an
SYSSTATE ASCENV=AR,AMODE64=YES
STORAGE OBTAIN ,ALET=1,ADDR=(Rx)
generates
LGR Rx,R1
rather than the expected
LAE Rx,0(,R1)
Very annoying
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Director, Dissen
Just to add, I have absolutely no clue (outside of ICL COBOL) what PIC 1 is.
I'm just an applications person. The world of sysprogs is beyond me, and whilst
I always enjoy the conversations here, mostly it is metres above my head :-)
In ICL COBOL, PIC 1 defines a bit. PIC 1(3) is three bits,
No, that is not so. COBOL will not attempt a "get" if the file is not open. It
will: return the file-status field, or do what is indicated in DECLARATIVES, or
give the U4038, depending on the presence or otherwise of FILE STATUS and
DECLARATIVES.
TRAP(ON) or TRAP(OFF), no S0C1.
Someone kindly
Folks,
I have heard through the grapevine that only the development team was sold off.
The sales and services arm are still within the IBM TWS group.
Regards,
Mitch McCluhan
mitc...@aol.com
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Recently, Frank Swarbrick and I have been discussing this down at the COBOL
Cafe (how cool does that sound when you say it out loud?).
The nub of the topic is the new Formats of the EXIT statement which have been
introduced to Enterprise COBOL with V5.2. These are EXIT PERFORM, EXIT PERFORM
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 11:40:22 -0500, Bill Woodger wrote:
>This may be true in Assembler, unless you code otherwise, but it is not true
>in COBOL, where the compiler generates the code for you (and uses its
>own/LE/"system" routines).
The PIC 1 still occurs when a COBOL (or other LE enabled)
Strange! Well, good to know that it's merely buggy, not completely
busted. There's hope yet!
On 07/12/16 11:52 AM, Styles, Andy , SD EP zPlatform wrote:
Funny - this week, the icon has magically appeared :-)
Andy Styles
z/Series Systems Programmer
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OPEN with no FILE STATUS for the file, and no DECLARATIVES for the file, will
get a U4038 if it fails, a Language Environment abend.
Yes, having defined a FILE STATUS it should *always* be checked. The
consequences of not checking far outweigh any "saving".
FILE STATUS cannot prevent/identify
This may be true in Assembler, unless you code otherwise, but it is not true in
COBOL, where the compiler generates the code for you (and uses its
own/LE/"system" routines).
A simple test is to READ a file which is has not been successfully OPENed, or
WRITE (a record to) a file which has not
Just to add to Charles ideas, making your operators decision makers isn't a
good idea. Are they better than racf who allowed the aurrogation? Get an
smf exit to inform you that user a used user's b authority. Corrlog has an
agent that does that.
Best
ITschak.
בתאריך 12 ביול 2016 18:43, "Charles
I agree with Charles, you can simply use the SURROGATE class or reinvent the
wheel and issue a RACROUTE on exit 52. Also, I believe a WTOR on exit 52 will
hold the submitter's TSO session until it's replied.
What I may also suggest is to enforce a HOLD on any job with USER= (in exit 52)
and
Skip Robinson wrote:
>My first thought for validity verification is Exit 6, which we use a lot.
>However, that runs in JES2 Main Task. I don't think you can issue WTOR there:
>all of JES2 would wait for the reply. In looking through the JES2 exit table
Funny - this week, the icon has magically appeared :-)
Andy Styles
z/Series Systems Programmer
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On 7/12/2016 7:07 AM, zMan wrote:
For example, the Optim products were quietly sold to Unicom last year. No
sign of it on IBM, who can still sell them. So no apparent change for
users, just unhappy employees (well, maybe -- some are probably glad to be
at a company that's interested in their
> The WTOR is highly problematic for many system tasks.
Better a programmed "rule" (in a generic sense of the word; not lobbying for
some particular product or technique) than a WTOR. Those pesky humans are slow
and unreliable.
Charles
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My first thought for validity verification is Exit 6, which we use a lot.
However, that runs in JES2 Main Task. I don't think you can issue WTOR there:
all of JES2 would wait for the reply. In looking through the JES2 exit table
The browser I use prepends partial URLs with http://www when what you
type does not get resolved, and my newsreader does not render that
partial URL as a link. I guess that's not true of everyone's toolset!
John McKown wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 8:05 AM, John Eells
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 8:05 AM, John Eells wrote:
> So, consider:
>
> - SET NOMAIL, and use a newsreader (e.g., Thunderbird or Outlook)
> - SET NOMAIL, and follow it in Google Groups or via the web interface
> - Get the daily DIGEST instead of all the posts
>
> In all three
For example, the Optim products were quietly sold to Unicom last year. No
sign of it on IBM, who can still sell them. So no apparent change for
users, just unhappy employees (well, maybe -- some are probably glad to be
at a company that's interested in their product).
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 8:30
Our SCRT reporting for IBM showed type 89 records that indicted that RMF was
used. We do not run RMF, we run CMF. I am looking back at syslogs and SMF data;
I am trying to determine what caused that (RMF usage) type 89 record to get
cut. It does not appear that the RMF STC was started…
So, consider:
- SET NOMAIL, and use a newsreader (e.g., Thunderbird or Outlook)
- SET NOMAIL, and follow it in Google Groups or via the web interface
- Get the daily DIGEST instead of all the posts
In all three cases, don't forget to forward the e-mail to the list
server if you want
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 00:29:08 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
>Unsuccessful open is not necessarily the end of the world...
>In my experience, S0C1 is the most likely consequence, I presume because
>some location that should contain a valid instruction after open does not.
Yes. The address of
On 2016-07-12 11:04, Andreas Fischer wrote:
is it possible to retrieve the last ispf command within an edit macro written
in rexx? i had a brief look in ibm's documentation but didn't found anything
helpful. since you can use the retrieve command in panel dialogs the data
must be stored
You are right it was just because it was my work e-mail thanks
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On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 6:58 AM, Joe Reichman wrote:
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> Can
RMF is NOT involved in the cutting of SMF 89, just like it isn't in the 30s.
(I mention 30s only because they're another source of Usage information.)
Cheers, Martin
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> On 11 Jul 2016, at 21:53, Roach, Dennis wrote:
>
> What makes you think it is part
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I would like to subscribe to IBM-MAIN on my Work Email but since its work I
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hi,
In the "Programming guide" it says SIZE is an option in the compiler JCL
Example: specifying compiler options using JCL
The following example shows how to specify compiler options under z/OS using
JCL.
...
//STEP1 EXEC PGM=IGYCRCTL,
// PARM=’LIST,NOCOMPILE(S),OBJECT,FLAG(E,E)’
also there are
Hi,
We are migrating from cobol V4R2 to V5R1. Some of our test compilations cancel
with IGYLI5062-U and we must increase the default SIZE in COBOL options. We
want to avoid change this option in the PARM sentence in JCL and set in
CEEPRMxx member in PARMLIB, but we can't find the parameter
Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>May be a job with a user= in the jobcard that is not the submiter id. I
>believe jes exits 5x can do that.
Yes, a JES2 exit (nr 5 I think) which scans the JCL statements and when
discovering a USER=??? statement, can issue a WTOR. That is *if* you may issue
a WTOR in
On 12/07/2016 11:56 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
I stumbled on a browser called Lobo, written in Java. It sucks on any
platform I've tried it on; not worth agitating my admins to get X11 working
on z/OS so I can see whether it compatibly sucks there, also.
I've get to see an X11 application
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>I stumbled on a browser called Lobo, written in Java.
Lobo development stopped in 2009. Lobo Evolution and gngr are two of Lobo's
successors:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/loboevolution/
https://gngr.info
Back to the John's point, the fact 3270 terminal emulation
May be a job with a user= in the jobcard that is not the submiter id. I
believe jes exits 5x can do that.
ITschak
בתאריך 12 ביול 2016 09:03, "Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM" <
kees.verno...@klm.com> כתב:
> What is "surrogate Batch Id"?
>
> Kees.
>
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What is "surrogate Batch Id"?
Kees.
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Hi
We are JES2, z/OS 2.1 and
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