Re: CBT Tape Updates

2021-03-18 Thread Tom Brennan
Thanks Mike... Ok, let's try: Downloaded CBT001 Unzipped File is FILE001.DATA - looks EBCDIC if I browse with Windows text editor IND$FILE to mainframe, not sure about lrecl Got B37 because IND$FILE default allocation is too small Allocated big target dataset, don't know lrecl let's try 300

Re: CBT Tape Updates

2021-03-18 Thread Peter Sylvester
On 19/03/2021 03:34, Tom Brennan wrote: Since some folks here seem to like the current CBT format, maybe I'm doing something wrong and you can correct me.  Here's an example: ... Oops, back to the subject:  Now I have a zip file.  I can click on that and an XMI file appears.  But xmit

Re: CBT Tape Updates

2021-03-18 Thread Ron Wells
Good idea -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dana Mitchell Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 5:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT Tape Updates ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION ** On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 06:52:19 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote:

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 19:06:07 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: >> >> Using clock values as a source of entropy is discouraged. If a >> (fe)malefactor can make a good guess at an interval during which >> the clock is sampled there's little entropy available. > >IBM Z was recently enhanced with a true random

Re: CBT Tape Updates

2021-03-18 Thread Mike Schwab
File 001 on http://cbttape.org/cbtdowns.htm is a longer description of all files. On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:34 PM Tom Brennan wrote: > > Since some folks here seem to like the current CBT format, maybe I'm > doing something wrong and you can correct me. Here's an example: > > So I go to

Re: CBT Tape Updates

2021-03-18 Thread Tom Brennan
Since some folks here seem to like the current CBT format, maybe I'm doing something wrong and you can correct me. Here's an example: So I go to cbttape.org looking for something. I click the CBT option at the upper left and a list of over 1000 files appears. I'm still not sure exactly

Re: CBT Tape Updates

2021-03-18 Thread kekronbekron
Uh.. did anyone see my response suggesting GitHub? GitHub deals well with releases... - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, March 19, 2021 4:39 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 <031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I would not vote for skipping the tape paradigm for the

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-18 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 3/18/2021 6:38 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Using clock values as a source of entropy is discouraged. If a (fe)malefactor can make a good guess at an interval during which the clock is sampled there's little entropy available. IBM Z was recently enhanced with a true random source in CPACF.

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 23:33:25 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >Peter, > >I must disagree that it is not a programming interface. The problem-state >instruction STCKE returns its value and the field is clearly defined in PoOP, >so problem-state users deserve to know how the contents are set

Re: This Call-Assembler-inside-COBOL technique works, but is it risky to use?

2021-03-18 Thread Charles Mills
A default might change? I am shocked. Shocked. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: This Call-Assembler-inside-COBOL

Re: This Call-Assembler-inside-COBOL technique works, but is it risky to use?

2021-03-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks Frank. I just tested using it here and apparently we haven't got that PTF applied yet on our systems. I will check for it again after the next upgrade point in our maintenance schedule. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick

Re: This Call-Assembler-inside-COBOL technique works, but is it risky to use?

2021-03-18 Thread Frank Swarbrick
UUID4 is available via PTF for V6.2 as well. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Farley, Peter x23353 <031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 5:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: This

Re: This Call-Assembler-inside-COBOL technique works, but is it risky to use?

2021-03-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Agreed about whether the that data area lands in storage that is "executable=yes" being a real potential problem. Agreed about the STCKE code being possibly incorrect for the AMODE 64 case. I have decided not to use this clever but risky approach and have fallen back to a simple assembler

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Peter, I must disagree that it is not a programming interface. The problem-state instruction STCKE returns its value and the field is clearly defined in PoOP, so problem-state users deserve to know how the contents are set by the only program authorized to set it, the operating system. The

Re: This Call-Assembler-inside-COBOL technique works, but is it risky to use?

2021-03-18 Thread Peter Relson
Make sure that the storage for this lands in code that is "executable=yes" (I have no idea if the compiler would put this into storage obtained for the module as opposed to something more dynamic). Imagine if, some day, the default for STORAGE OBTAIN changes from executable=no to

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-18 Thread Peter Relson
It should be expected that the principles of operation not have any information about what data is placed there, as it is specifically defined to be set by a program to whatever that program wants it to be. I'll bite: why would we want to document how the operating system sets this? It is not

Re: CBT Tape Updates

2021-03-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I would not vote for skipping the tape paradigm for the same reason. Less often but not zero. I haven't encountered that kind of problem, but having prior versions to go back to is highly valuable when you need it. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On

Re: Any z/OS sandbox available for a university student I know?

2021-03-18 Thread Mike Schwab
I would say the the reason would be the Iron curtain. IBM mainframes weren't available behind the iron curtain and USSR clones were pretty limited availability. On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 5:33 PM Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > > W dniu 18.03.2021 o 01:55, Bill Johnson pisze: > > Only 1 or 2 banks

Re: CBT Tape Updates

2021-03-18 Thread Mike Schwab
One function the CBTTAPE numbers did was keeping a historic log of version, so if the latest didn't work you could go through the various tapes to find an older one that would work on your system. So please keep a link to each version by date, unless the author withdraws a particular version

Re: WWUNTERSE for distributed platforms (especially SMF)

2021-03-18 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 14/03/2021 9:32 am, Andrew Rowley wrote: On 14/03/2021 2:32 am, Robert Prins wrote: Why hasn't it been released as open source under the same license, after all it's just decompression code, and given the note in the User's Guide, After a discussion with Mario at SHARE last year and

Re: Any z/OS sandbox available for a university student I know?

2021-03-18 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 18.03.2021 o 01:55, Bill Johnson pisze: Only 1 or 2 banks still use mainframes in 2009? The truth is, all but 1 or 2 banks worldwide don’t use a mainframe in 2021. I’ve worked at 15 different shops in 40 years and only 1 used visual basic and that was over 20 years ago. It was declared

Re: CBT Tape Updates

2021-03-18 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 06:52:19 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: >Skip the "real"/AWS tape. Maybe just cut one only on request. I agree, another vote for skipping the tape paradigm all together. Just a web page maybe with the listing of the descriptions from file 001 (without all the extra tape

Re: Any z/OS sandbox available for a university student I know?

2021-03-18 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
What is the "nominal cost"? I fully understand you cannot pay for someone, however sometimes I have contact with students (I use to be guest lecturer) and it would be nice to tell them "hey, if you want z/OS account you can have it for nn $ per month". -- Radoslaw Skorupka (looking for new

Re: IPL from SCSI DVD or via NVMe

2021-03-18 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 18.03.2021 o 16:14, Tom Mathias pisze: While I have not personally been able to verify this, I've had reports that you can use the HMC's Load from Removable Media or Server task to load and run the COD from an FTP server. You will need to put the contents of all three COD disks into

Re: IPL from SCSI DVD or via NVMe

2021-03-18 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 18.03.2021 o 04:51, Ed Jaffe pisze: On 3/17/2021 7:24 PM, Jim Mulder wrote:    Several years ago I was helping the COD folks with some problem with using the Operating System Messages console when IPLing standalone ICKDSF from DVD.   I needed a DVD so I could reproduce the problem on a

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 14:42:21 -0500, Salva Carrasco wrote: > >CPC 1 & 2 are in different rooms. I think Einstein's relativity effects will >be greater than TOD last bits counter. > If they're on different floors, does STP account for gravitational redshift? I suppose that's just folded in with

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-18 Thread Salva Carrasco
Paul, CPC 1 & 2 are in different rooms. I think Einstein's relativity effects will be greater than TOD last bits counter. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-18 Thread Mike Schwab
Looking an that, i'm assuming it assigns a sequential number to an LPAR within a connected group of z processors. I'm assuming when you connect two processors already up it will reassign the sequence number? . On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 1:33 PM Paul Gilmartin

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:39:06 -0500, Salva Carrasco wrote: >Peter, from my Sysplexex (two CPC, two Sysplexes): > >Sysplex 1: >LPAR1 - CPC 1 - 00D96E2471DF1F55880008040001 >LPAR2 - CPC 1 - 00D96E2543F30EBBA20008040003 >LPAR1 - CPC 2 - 00D96E24D3FB3288420008040002 >LPAR2 - CPC 2 -

Re: Multiprise 3000 Array problems

2021-03-18 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 22:14, Joe Monk wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 8:22 PM A T & T Management > wrote: > > > Just wondering, but has anyone tried attaching IDE disk Drives to the MP > > 3000? If so how well did it work? > > The internal disk drives for a multiprise 3000 are SSA. > >

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thank you Salva. We have only one Sysplex here (though we do have 2 JESPLEX's for historical reasons), and I have confirmed that the two LPAR's I have access to run code on have different last byte values (02 and 08) so I am reasonably confident I can use that byte for LPAR uniqueness here. I

Punch out Program via the Assembler

2021-03-18 Thread Savor, Thomas
Sorry, need to get into the way back machinemaybe 25 years agomaybe more. I worked on an application that was COBOL and had Assembler macros that were used in the code. Like a COBOL Copybook was turned into an Assembler macro so that you could specify PFX=WRK or BCN or whatever is

Re: Contents of TOD Programmable Field under z/OS?

2021-03-18 Thread Salva Carrasco
Peter, from my Sysplexex (two CPC, two Sysplexes): Sysplex 1: LPAR1 - CPC 1 - 00D96E2471DF1F55880008040001 LPAR2 - CPC 1 - 00D96E2543F30EBBA20008040003 LPAR1 - CPC 2 - 00D96E24D3FB3288420008040002 LPAR2 - CPC 2 - 00D96E25612D8B3846000804 Sysplex2: LPAR3 - CPC 1 -

Re: HLASM question about SQLITE3

2021-03-18 Thread Dave Jones
Brian, it says #00021. Thanks. DJ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: This Call-Assembler-inside-COBOL technique works, but is it risky to use?

2021-03-18 Thread Charles Mills
I just looked at the LR for PROCEDURE-POINTER. It says it has to be an entry point. I could see a future version of the compiler disallowing a SET to a working storage data item. >From the LR: A procedure-pointer can point to a function descriptor for one of the following or can contain NULL: .

Re: IPL from SCSI DVD or via NVMe

2021-03-18 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 3/18/2021 8:10 AM, Lund, James E wrote: What?!? Are we in the stone age? 8^) I actually created an IPLable USB stick for an old DR environment. We do things on the "cheap", restoring stand-alone from replicated virtual tape to DS8800. ICKDSF SA CDROM was a starting point, then added FDR

Re: IPL from SCSI DVD or via NVMe

2021-03-18 Thread Tom Mathias
While I have not personally been able to verify this, I've had reports that you can use the HMC's Load from Removable Media or Server task to load and run the COD from an FTP server. You will need to put the contents of all three COD disks into the same subdirectory on an FTP server in the

Re: IPL from SCSI DVD or via NVMe

2021-03-18 Thread Lund, James E
What?!? Are we in the stone age? 8^) I actually created an IPLable USB stick for an old DR environment. We do things on the "cheap", restoring stand-alone from replicated virtual tape to DS8800. ICKDSF SA CDROM was a starting point, then added FDR SAR, and ZZSA (just in case things go south).

Re: FTP multiple docs to IBM

2021-03-18 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 3/18/2021 7:34 AM, Billy Ashton wrote: Hi everyone...I am looking at how we upload our files for vendor support tickets, and it seems that every vendor does things differently. There are really only three viable (secure) ways: SFTP (my favorite), HTTPS and FTPS. I would think all vendors

Re: IPL from SCSI DVD or via NVMe

2021-03-18 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 3/18/2021 12:03 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: Just to keep you amused (or something?) the z/OS Customized Offerings Driver has different version and release numbers than the skinny/mini z/OS it contains, so just be aware of that. Now you are. :-) Thanks, Tim. I'll try to order one. Hopefully

FTP multiple docs to IBM

2021-03-18 Thread Billy Ashton
Hi everyone...I am looking at how we upload our files for vendor support tickets, and it seems that every vendor does things differently. I had read somewhere that there is a program that IBM uses that allows customers to upload multiple files at once, including PDS or PDSE files, and it

Re: IPL from SCSI DVD or via NVMe

2021-03-18 Thread Tom Conley
On 3/17/2021 11:51 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 3/17/2021 7:24 PM, Jim Mulder wrote:    Several years ago I was helping the COD folks with some problem with using the Operating System Messages console when IPLing standalone ICKDSF from DVD.   I needed a DVD so I could reproduce the problem on a test

Re: Looking for 3274 Line Trace

2021-03-18 Thread Mike Wawiorko
I used to know all this without looking in the manuals but a distant memory now. Seem to remember an exchange of XIDs comes next. Short XID for PU type 2.0 like 3274 Long XID for PU type 2.1 Can't remember which end sends first. Mike Wawiorko   -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: HLASM question about SQLITE3

2021-03-18 Thread Mario Bezzi
Dave, I have been working on a process to compile the standard SQLite amalgamation unchanged using IBM's XL/C compiler. It works with the latest 3.35.2 version of SQLite. If you are interested contact me offline. mario On 3/17/21 8:49 PM, Dave Jones wrote: Hi, all. I am now working with

Re: Looking for 3274 Line Trace

2021-03-18 Thread Joe Monk
Check out chapter 14 ... http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/sna/GA27-3137-4_System_Network_Architecture_Reference_Summary_Jan1981.pdf Joe On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 3:30 AM Henk Stegeman wrote: > Hi all, > > I am working on a IBM 3274 simulator. > > Anyone who can help me with an actual NCP

Re: CBT Tape Updates

2021-03-18 Thread Tony Thigpen
Skip the "real"/AWS tape. Maybe just cut one only on request. I always download the individual file zip member and use "xmit manager" to extract files to my pc for review. I either upload individual files or upload the xmit file depending on my needs. Just a web page with a list of

Re: Looking for 3274 Line Trace

2021-03-18 Thread Alexander Huemer
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 03:30:33AM -0500, Henk Stegeman wrote: > I am working on a IBM 3274 simulator. > > Anyone who can help me with an actual NCP _LINE_trace between a FEP > and a IBM 3274 from SNRM (Set Normal Response Mode) command up to the > positive response on a ACTLU ? > > Currently

Looking for 3274 Line Trace

2021-03-18 Thread Henk Stegeman
Hi all, I am working on a IBM 3274 simulator. Anyone who can help me with an actual NCP _LINE_trace between a FEP and a IBM 3274 from SNRM (Set Normal Response Mode) command up to the positive response on a ACTLU ? Currently I am stuck after: LS1: -> SNRM - PF=1 LS1: <- UA - PF=1 LS1: -> RR

Re: Any z/OS sandbox available for a university student I know?

2021-03-18 Thread Sonny Gupta
To All, Maintec Technologies has an LPAR available that we rent out to individuals for learning and development purposes. It is not free as we have to pay IBM software license charges. Our core business is to provide managed services on the iSeries & zSeries Platform. At the same time, we

Re: IPL from SCSI DVD or via NVMe

2021-03-18 Thread Timothy Sipples
Ed Jaffe wrote: >What does COD stand for? How does a lowly customer/ISV >get this thing? COD could mean "Capacity On Demand," but in this context it means "z/OS Customized Offerings Driver," a skinny/mini z/OS that can be IPLed (started) from a DVD, USB flash drive, or equivalent electronic

Re: CBT Tape Updates

2021-03-18 Thread Brian Westerman
I think once per year is fine. You could do it on your Birthday to give you something to celebrate with. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: Any z/OS sandbox available for a university student I know?

2021-03-18 Thread Timothy Sipples
Mike Wawiorko wrote: >Now Linux threatens Unix... If by "threatens Unix" you mean "has both feet pressed tightly against HP-UX's and Solaris's necks while they're in hospice," yes, I'd agree. - - - - - - - - - - Timothy Sipples I.T. Architect Executive Digital Asset & Other Industry Solutions