In 7695765772818059.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/15/2012
at 06:37 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Do batch ISPF jobs use panels?
Yes.
How,
By specifying the panel on the ISPSTART.
and is it necessary?
Yes.
It seems almost a contradiction in terms.
No.
In
of1a25d1f0.ca6c550d-on88257a5d.0014c951-88257a5d.00157...@sce.com,
on 08/16/2012
at 08:54 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said:
IIRC ISPF in batch requires all the standard DD
allocations or it just won't work at all. Period.
Yes, except that they can be dynamic rather than
In m3628hgxwy@garlic.com, on 08/17/2012
at 02:45 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said:
i remember visiting pok in the early 70s when ibm was under gov.
restrictions to preserve everything printed
Why didn't they preserve what they needed for their own use and
deliver the stuff they
In 2080556112895229.wa.scottfagencayahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/17/2012
at 07:07 PM, Scott Fagen scottfagen...@yahoo.com said:
APAR = Authorized (Authorised for the rest of the world)
My spell checker accepts authorized bu tot authorised.
PMR is a Problem Management Request
Are you
In 1345243408.2350.yahoomail...@web122106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on
08/17/2012
at 03:43 PM, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@yahoo.com said:
How many systems programmers do programming as part of their
systems programming job?
It varies from shop to shop. These days the percentage of systems
In cd22aa1aee707d489d9250d13e3862a1891574d...@nihmlbxcms02.nih.gov,
on 08/17/2012
at 11:56 AM, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
obrie...@mail.nih.gov said:
I'm copying a number of DASD volumes this weekend and have a
question.
Which comes first at IPL:
execution of the Commndsx member of
In 10621aa97d7a8640bd671c4b287949eb100b6...@gwcorpmail4.gwl.bz, on
08/20/2012
at 08:57 AM, Mullen, Patrick patrick.mul...@gwl.ca said:
Similarly, everywhere I've lived (UK, South Africa, Canada), a spell
checker would be confined to use by Harry Potter and his chums.
Only if they're studying
In 6419321491215114.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/20/2012
at 07:57 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
There are contrary valid points of view here:
Perhaps on what is desirable, but the behavior of the ISPF code is a
matter of fact.
o Not to require the programmer
In 3289299314261205.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/21/2012
at 09:58 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
But IBM, with little clue, requires ISPPLIB to be allocated when
running ISPF in batch. It might, rather be a courtesy for ISPSTART
in batch to fail if ISPPLIB _is_
In 50342f7d.6030...@bcs.org.uk, on 08/22/2012
at 02:01 AM, CM Poncelet ponce...@bcs.org.uk said:
Is that so?
Yes, they know what they are doing and why.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel
We don't care. We don't have to care,
In 645893134704.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/22/2012
at 09:36 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
But isn't ISPF itself a large step moving TSO in the direction of
what Windows later became?
No.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2
In
offadfa57b.19e8601a-on85257a62.0050ea48-85257a62.0051d...@tsys.com,
on 08/22/2012
at 10:54 AM, Kirk Talman rkueb...@tsys.com said:
More accurately a session manager is Windows for z/OS.
Not even close. While I have had issues with TPX, the comparison is
still insulting.
--
Shmuel
In 50359f17.2080...@bcs.org.uk, on 08/23/2012
at 04:10 AM, CM Poncelet ponce...@bcs.org.uk said:
Well ... art/entertainment v. science/engineering as in Aesop's
fable about the Cicala and the Ant. Industry makes its own bread:
it does not sing all summer and expect bread when winter arrives.
In 50361ac9.1080...@bcs.org.uk, on 08/23/2012
at 12:58 PM, CM Poncelet ponce...@bcs.org.uk said:
Solomon's Book of Proverbs, chapter 26 verse 5
Ah, the Devil quoting scripture.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel
We don't care. We
In 50359115.9090...@bcs.org.uk, on 08/23/2012
at 03:10 AM, CM Poncelet ponce...@bcs.org.uk said:
What happened to your sycophants, Metz?
I don't have, or want, any. There may be people who often agree with
me, but I'm not aware of one that won't point out any errors that I
make. For that
In 5159fdfc-4063-4acb-969a-95c03fc7d...@yahoo.com, on 08/25/2012
at 12:41 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
They consider REXX a language
Given that substantial applications have been written in REXX, why
would you not consider it to be a programming language?
--
Shmuel
In 50382f4e.6000...@bcs.org.uk, on 08/25/2012
at 02:50 AM, CM Poncelet ponce...@bcs.org.uk said:
As your interpretation seems to be the only one that matters
How is that not a lie?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel
We don't
In 2174580136452535.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/24/2012
at 10:31 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:13:49 -0400, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
...
max configured z196 with 80 processors is rated for 50BIPS and goes for
$28M (about
In 503996a6.8030...@bcs.org.uk, on 08/26/2012
at 04:23 AM, CM Poncelet ponce...@bcs.org.uk said:
What's your problem, Metz?
Dealing with hypocritical fools.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel
We don't care. We don't have to care,
In
cae1xxdgd6eavqvjzptcfkmu9dht3jdjdefc_unfnmzawfak...@mail.gmail.com,
on 08/26/2012
at 02:55 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
REXX can also be viewed--Its inventor so views it--as a PL/I dialect.
REXX is structurally very different from PL/I, and PL/I habbits will
get you into
In
58fc7f986fcb804286e23b59decf420f65c0b...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com,
on 08/27/2012
at 11:33 AM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com said:
CLIST stands for Command List i.e., a means to string a series
of TSO commands together. It was rudimentary. Although some
improvements have
In 503ba219.7000...@bcs.org.uk, on 08/27/2012
at 05:36 PM, CM Poncelet ponce...@bcs.org.uk said:
Well ... subject to interpretation. For example, DOS was a lot closer
to the *original* (pre-ESA) ISPF than Microsoft Windows ever was
Neither looked anything like ISPF, or even like the original
In 503bf5eb.5010...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 08/28/2012
at 12:34 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said:
Valid, but illogical. Data set with zero size is illogical.
No.
That's exploitation of side effect. Stilla valid (it works, so
it is valid), but it's still illogical.
It's
In 2147353307588112.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/27/2012
at 06:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
But its length attribute is nonzero. In fact, IIRC, HLASM will
never create a symbol with length attribute of zero;
Don't confuse symbol with SET symbol.
The
In 2627995591725082.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/27/2012
at 07:09 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
... so SPACE=(0,1) does allocate space.
What's in your ACS?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel
We
In 056a01cd84f3$853f7420$8fbe5c60$@mindspring.com, on 08/28/2012
at 01:02 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said:
I would like to understand better what you are trying to do.
IKJPARS is a TSO service routine for parsing a command; the caller
passes a Parse Parameter List (PPL) that,
In 0088725960804398.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/28/2012
at 09:42 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
How would you employ VALUE() to simplify this?
Whoops! Substitution of the tail does occur. That leaves OOREXX, which
hasn't ben ported :-(
--
Shmuel
In 584b9998-992d-4fab-9b21-268ad144d...@yahoo.com, on 08/28/2012
at 11:56 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
Parsing for me is not an issue. I understand it's not 'NIX' like,
but if you understand the language you craft your programs or
scripts to perform what you want.
When I have
In 503d2b0b.6010...@neo.tamu.edu, on 08/28/2012
at 03:33 PM, Richard Peurifoy r-peuri...@neo.tamu.edu said:
I think BSAM/QSAM will simulate an EOF without doing any I/O to the
data set if you try to read it.
I'd prefer an ABEND.
Note that if you first write to it first then [B|Q]SAM will
In 503cfd09.1010...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 08/28/2012
at 07:16 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said:
BTW: it's NOT similar to /dev/null or DD DUMMY.
Of course it is.
Zero-space dataset is real object, consuming real resources
(VTOC, maybe catalog) with no real (as intended) use.
In 1384193780234110.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/28/2012
at 06:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
I believe this is the behavior of QSAM. BSAM at least in the past
behaved otherwise; cheerfully reading residual, likely invalid,
data.
For a zero-extent dataset
In 5214889636111450.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/28/2012
at 10:28 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
You're right. I don't like it. How did you guess? Actually, in
HLASM I could do anything, even write my own TMP. If I wanted to.
If I knew how. Couldn't I?
In 0c4610fa-8e37-401f-8833-7fc935672...@yahoo.com, on 08/29/2012
at 02:19 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
I love perl and even ruby, but I am in a batch z/os environment
writing for customers,
While it is backlevel, there is a Perl for z/OS.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,
In
ofd2c947e4.f5332661-on88257a69.00708885-88257a69.00729...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu,
on 08/29/2012
at 01:51 PM, John Norgauer john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu said:
Programs are compiled and linked with 20 year old Cobol
What is the COBOL name and product number?
U4052 abend.
What does the
In
58fc7f986fcb804286e23b59decf420f65c10...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com,
on 08/30/2012
at 02:40 PM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com said:
The concept is very similar; the implementation is very different.
Instead of designing a different type of memory they utilize off the
shelf
In
CAHm_n2m0YMNqapMVRe=sxzmayt1w9vvzvs+3v25eithm_c6...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/04/2012
at 12:10 PM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com said:
But other metal-level language implementations are not care free -
consider length-prefixed strings - the programmer must still check
lengths before moving data.
In
fd20b743d96a9545b2420d8f28400f35025a2...@g2w2530.americas.hpqcorp.net,
on 09/05/2012
at 02:51 AM, Cifani, Domenic domenic.cif...@hp.com said:
I'm hoping someone can help me with an issue we are experiencing
following an upgrade from z/OS 1.11 to 1.13. We are running an
REXX EXEC in batch
In 1679112769409333.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/05/2012
at 02:00 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
But aren't there ways a nonauthorized program can delete PDS
members?
Yes. There are even way to do it by accident.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and
In 50475f32.9050...@acm.org, on 09/05/2012
at 09:18 AM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said:
and this is the only
locally produced documentation that makes sense on z/OS,
While the auditors in question may be stark raving bonkers, there is
other relevant documentation; change control
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea0115baa1...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 09/05/2012
at 11:45 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
If it is because the z architecture is not good at numeric
computation,
The z architecture is fine for numeric computations. The problem is
that the
In 1346854774.87382.yahoomail...@web164503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com, on
09/05/2012
at 07:19 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
Yep Walt is right for sure, I have called IRXJCL rexx clist and done
a LINKMVS to an authorized RACF program , works like a champ
Interesting, given that the
In 1346879110.62512.yahoomail...@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on
09/05/2012
at 02:05 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
Your right IRXJCL is unauthorized. I assume the LINKMVS is an ATTACH
another subtask ...
No. That would be ADDRESS ATTACHMVS, and it will still be in the same
In 3240638450612647.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/05/2012
at 06:09 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Is this IRXEXCOM, IIRC?
From the GI:
3.1.3.2 TSO/E REXX programming services
IRXEXCOM - Variable Access
The IRXEXCOM variable access routine lets
In
c11ded818b17214792b97fba28712bed15ef0a4...@jer-email1.jer.ad.malam.com,
on 09/06/2012
at 01:31 PM, gad...@malam.com said:
When I ran APPLY CHECK, I got the messages below.
That's been normal for decades.
What would be the recommended procedure to resolve these errors?
Read the hold text
In
caccgc5dh-2kebjfpnmt0apwdcjjaondevelz6wnufcla7og...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/06/2012
at 01:58 AM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com said:
I believe IBM produced a pc with a 370 to run VM on a PC.
XT/370 and AT/370 used a 68000 with custom microcode and a second
68000 with standard microcode.
In
CAHm_n2=y0-wuhodm8q0cyfat2edh-u8mpco4jd0o_sdjc91...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/06/2012
at 10:05 AM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com said:
But don't PDS directory blocks have keys on disk?
Yes, but the OP asked for 256 bytes, suggesting that he doesn't need
the keys and in fact is not prepared to
In 071a01cd8c33$88e2d440$9aa87cc0$@mcn.org, on 09/06/2012
at 06:28 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
Anyone know how to accomplish this, short of writing an assembler
program to do it?
Write a PL/I or REXX program to read the directory. Assuming that you
don't need the key, the DCB
In 07b601cd8c4a$4065bbd0$c1313370$@mcn.org, on 09/06/2012
at 09:11 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
But don't PDS directory blocks have keys on disk?
I don't *think* so.
Always has, always will. From z/OS DFSMS Using Data Sets.
SC26-7410-09:
3.7.2 PDS Directory
PDS member
In 07df01cd8c4d$b1408b20$13c1a160$@mcn.org, on 09/06/2012
at 09:35 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
Did you read my preceding post? g
The one that denied the key field for PDS directory blocks? ;-)
BTW, I saw a quote from an earlier message, but not the message
itself, talking about
In
0455733492565759.wa.juergen.kellerdeutscheboerse@listserv.ua.edu,
on 09/07/2012
at 08:52 AM, Juergen Keller juergen.kel...@deutsche-boerse.com
said:
is there someone having experiences with JES2? I have a strange
problem. A user created a spool file and SDSF and $DJ are showing a
record
In
c11ded818b17214792b97fba28712bed15ef0a5...@jer-email1.jer.ad.malam.com,
on 09/09/2012
at 12:50 PM, gad...@malam.com said:
find: FSUM6004 write error on standard output: EDC5133I NO SPACE LEFT
ON DEVICE.
Look at the script to see where it is redirecting the output of find,
e.g.,
find foo
In p0624080bcc7321fafda9@[192.168.1.11], on 09/10/2012
at 01:03 AM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com said:
At 15:30 -0400 on 09/07/2012, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about
Re: Anyone know how to copy a PDS directory as a flat file?:
Got paraphrase of WAD.
Broken as designed
In a7ur48l9vhqq4g7p4akhsbhejdmea3i...@4ax.com, on 09/10/2012
at 11:31 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said:
Does i-o on system z take less cpu and memory resource than i-o on
Intel servers?,
Probably less CPU, not less memory.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
In 000801cd8f44$116df7a0$3449e6e0$@att.net, on 09/10/2012
at 06:04 AM, Kenneth J. Kripke kenneth_kri...@att.net said:
Next will come the member NAME, ttr, C field, and, the number of
TTRN's. You will want to AND out the C field. Then multiply the
number of ttrn's by 2 to convert to bytes.
In
CAArMM9Rbbo+aF=OE=UpRCPa4=g5wd_mmjhuagmomu5eeeir...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/11/2012
at 08:54 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
But when was the last time anyone saw an actual Usenet/UUCP server?
When was the last time someone mentioned UUCP on IBM-MAIN? A more
relevant question is When
In 4244327715204510.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/11/2012
at 08:42 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
You veered away from the topic of my question
I was addressing different issues; whether a fake [BQ]SAM read of the
directory returns actual TTR's at all, and
In a04f9dd3-3573-4468-b873-ec2367518...@yahoo.com, on 09/17/2012
at 12:00 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
Excellent, what version of Perl is supported on Unix System Services,
v5 ?
5.8.7; the Unicode support broke EBCDIC after that. I don't know
whether anybody is trying to fix
In
a6cf87cbc0b60a459cb79af044a096db14780b4...@mailccr.us.syncsort.com,
on 09/17/2012
at 04:25 PM, Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com
said:
Dave day said, The runchain IPCS command showed me the error, I just
have to figure out how I created the error in the 1st place.
Isn't it
In 3348199517678240.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/19/2012
at 10:33 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
How are Arabic numbers written in a paragraph of Arabic (or Hebrew)
text?
Left to right[1], just like Roman numerals or quoted English text. But
Hebrew numbers are
In 2675223931833657.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/17/2012
at 07:56 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
An even greater luxury would be an electronic P{or}Op[s] in which
the viewer could select on the title page model, feature set, and
OPTABLE in any combination and
In
a6cf87cbc0b60a459cb79af044a096db14780b4...@mailccr.us.syncsort.com,
on 09/18/2012
at 10:37 AM, Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com
said:
I think you miss an important item here. ISV's ship object code, not
source code.
Most have drunk the OCO koolaid, but I doubt that all
In 3682632231537456.wa.maryanne4psugmail@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/19/2012
at 08:19 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz maryanne4...@gmail.com said:
I have reviewed the Transactional Execution section of the new
zProOps
Do you have a publicly accessible URL for SA22-7832-09?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.)
In 1190298266964067.wa.mitchdanagmail@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/20/2012
at 01:24 PM, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com said:
I'm working on installing HTTP server IMWEBSRV on a system with a
read only root zfs. The setup.sh wants to create directories under
/usr/lpp/internet/server_root
In 2185360607951952.wa.mitchdanagmail@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/20/2012
at 02:21 PM, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com said:
So it's 'normal' for all this server code to actually reside under
/usr/lpp?
Yes.
would it be appropriate to copy it to something under /var?
No; /var is not
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea0115baa1...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 09/20/2012
at 02:31 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
Well, it is the *IBM* standard. It's definitely not what I'm used to
in Linux. In Linux, this particular directory, at least for Apache,
ends up in
In
cafo-8tr39w9ys5a7gy4qtnimvwg38btsuytzob11ojc22r2...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/19/2012
at 05:31 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said:
For the record, MVCIN has been around since the 4300s.
Every generation believes that it invented sex. The 4300 may mark
MVCIN becoming standard, but the
In
CAJTOO5-YP4mU-4ec5C9CJKPpef=ezwojhoezc_d4jxkdyee...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/19/2012
at 07:01 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said:
That account goes away if you change providers or move and have to
change providers. Plus it enables a lot of impersonation.
No more so than web mail.
In 9b277c67-0e6e-4fbc-b50d-83450902d...@comcast.net, on 09/19/2012
at 11:36 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said:
Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Try pointing this out to them.
I have been through this issue with YAHOO and GMAIL.
AFter talking with their
In 20120920084124.7eb5d8229f08b74462b6b...@gmx.net, on 09/20/2012
at 08:41 AM, ibmmain nitz-...@gmx.net said:
I do. Unfortunately only at home, email clients cannot go through the
firewall at work.
Are you sure? It's more likely that port 25 can't get through the
firewall but port 587 can.
In
CAJTOO5-_OgoTQ6jouYsF9MbmzgSQuv4pGYf0xNswZY7=zgb...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/20/2012
at 10:57 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said:
Someone could start their PC, start their email client, enter your
email as the sender, and start sending emails through your account
via SMTP by only
In 505b4ddf.8010...@trainersfriend.com, on 09/20/2012
at 11:09 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said:
Spoofing your email account can be done outside some social
engineering contxt. At least that seems to be the concensus in this
conversation, although I lack the technical knowledge
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea0115baa1...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 09/20/2012
at 12:21 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
Spoofing email is rather simple.
FSVO spoofing. It's trivial to generate your own From header field,
but anybody that knows how to read headers can
There is a discussion inn the news group a,lt.folklore.computers as to
whether the term MVS includes TSO. Can anybody point to an explicit
statement from IBM? Thanks.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html
We don't
In 7845989131359869.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/21/2012
at 07:22 AM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com said:
David Bond posted this link on the Assembler list:
http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/dz9zr009.pdf
And for the reference summary:
In
ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba10216f...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net,
on 09/20/2012
at 08:48 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said:
Yes, from the MVS Basic course: there are 3 ways to create an Address
Space: START, LOGON and MOUNT.
There's been an internal address space
In
caodpegslghomjp3vej_av5mb8ftwhhzgl_24z3xds9es6df...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/19/2012
at 03:47 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com said:
SYSLOG tells a lot about identities running in your system, and more
specific, those who are assigned to STCs and the way they get it
(STARTED class,
In 50606024.6020...@us.ibm.com, on 09/24/2012
at 09:29 AM, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com said:
MVS might have at some point included TSO. Perhaps sooner, but since
MVS Version 1 if I recall correctly, TSO and later TSO/E have been
either:
a) Different products with separate product (order)
In 505fe342.4020...@valley.net, on 09/24/2012
at 12:36 AM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net said:
You are expected to branch back using R14, or else issue SVC 3
Even if it works, an SVC 3 is not expected. I'd consider that to be
Russian roulette.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,
In 0110b80401e52145b9da944d6269a...@mail.cenhud.com, on 09/19/2012
at 03:53 PM, Tim Brown tbr...@cenhud.com said:
I recall there was a MOUNT procedure coded,
I'm not aware of any reason to modify it, and it's not the source of
your JCL error. As others have mentioned, you need a slash in
In
CAE1XxDH+r00Q87x75=xz7z7kfdkpdq2w53t6xz_b7kkrxbx...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/24/2012
at 09:39 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
and he has here committed a [vulgar sense] oxymoron.
Actually a typo; that should have been It started as a feature of
OS/360 MVT.
--
Shmuel (Seymour
In
of146f19ea.fc6ac4d6-on86257a85.003eeb52-86257a85.003f0...@agfinance.com,
on 09/26/2012
at 06:28 AM, Ron Wells ron.we...@slfs.com said:
and too bad...but then computer world has always been a MS fan..
That seems unlikely, given when they started.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg
In 5063f617.80...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 09/27/2012
at 08:45 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said:
Excuse me, what is misleading? It's obviousm that .NET framework
work on Windows operating system and the windows is not free of
charge. However you can have Windows (for money) and
In
0522205521763729.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu,
on 09/26/2012
at 08:28 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
Try
KEY = '**'
CSIFILTK = SUBSTR(KEY,1,44)
Why not LEFT(KEY,44)?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2
In
dc74548a025aff4a85f46926802a9b2308fb7...@chsa1035.share.beluni.net,
on 09/27/2012
at 09:00 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com said:
You might wonder why the CSI* variables are filled using the
substr() function.
Indeed; why not LEFT?
There is a special behavior
In 2898629948738139.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/26/2012
at 08:56 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
I stand corrected. But still, if RECEIVE tolerates processing a
SYSMOD prior to its PRErequisites on the assumption that APPLY
will sort things out, I might hope
In 506316c1.30...@gabegold.com, on 09/26/2012
at 10:52 AM, Gabe Goldberg g...@gabegold.com said:
I'm writing article for Destination z -- http://destinationz.org/ --
giving tips for reporting problems to vendors.
Off the top of my head:
1. Be honest about severity level.
2. Know
In
ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba10216f...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net,
on 09/27/2012
at 03:52 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said:
That way, Linux is not free, you have to buy a PC first,
You don't need to buy a PC from Linus Torvalds to run Linux, and you
don't need a PC at
In 5064c431.8000...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 09/27/2012
at 11:25 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said:
We (me and others) claim that .NET framework is free of charge.
Having it does not involve any additional cost.
Does that mean that you will steal a copy of windoze? You are not
In
CAE1XxDG6M+fOThgy4pizzKY0=w9wmdxhvt89davm-wkyrtc...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/27/2012
at 11:46 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Shmuel is correct.
Not if LEFT behaves the same as SUBSTR and STRINGRANGE is enabled.
Both the test Peter ran and the text he cited from the manual say that
In
cajtoo59q4_cypgbcmo0qjpeeovbcqfhjsihomjoqcjiu6a2...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/29/2012
at 10:42 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said:
Looks like there is some missing code in LOAD_DIR: PROC; This is
routine to read a PDS directory, and P is an pointer within the
directory block.
But I
In 2086667416745713.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/28/2012
at 10:01 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
What ever became of MIME types, which are at least defined in an
RFC?
More than one. See RFC 2048, which describes the registration process
for new types and
In
CAE1XxDEy1+cyg2M1hv3r1Dm-UTWrDW=yiqffybaocjff8ag...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/28/2012
at 03:08 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
What Flaubert in fact wrote was
| Le bon Dieu est dans le détail.
Then, given the existence of Daniel Defoe's bit of doggerel, the
inference that the devil
In 35aab4a7-4ffd-4fb9-a943-30a2bfba0...@optonline.net, on 09/30/2012
at 11:12 AM, Micheal Burn michealb...@optonline.net said:
Did a tsolib activate on the dataset
From the READY prompt?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel
We
In
CAE1XxDHWzTJMVY-7Ced=e9piBb-DiEgu=v6dx65ff9hkcov...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/30/2012
at 12:04 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
The Defoe is:
Wherever God erects a house of prayer,
The devil always builds a chapel there;
And 'twill be found upon examination,
The latter has the largest
In 0f2549fd-fa84-4602-9164-d30466d42...@aim.com, on 10/03/2012
at 08:35 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
On Oct 3, 2012, at 08:15, McKown, John wrote:
It would be very difficult and have a lot of overhead to have IOS (not iOS)
check every CCW chain for suspect CCWs. ...
In
77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca343722f8...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com,
on 10/03/2012
at 04:01 PM, Bill Fairchild bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com said:
It does need to be done for DASD.
No; something different needs to be done.
It is all handled by CCW prefixing.
FSVI it; CCW prefixing
In 2142487373662645.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
10/03/2012
at 04:34 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Sigh. Morons. Why did they do that!? It's like being back in old
OS/360 which specified the minimum count field in an RDW as 5.
For VBS, yes, but not for VB.
--
In 0061634022294882.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
10/04/2012
at 11:38 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Or, the OS can prohibit the occurrence of boundary values, and the
programmer need never be concerned with them.
No, the OS can prohibit the occurrence of boundary
In 0897781066770312.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
10/04/2012
at 03:51 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Was the null segment in VBS invented (partly) to deal with the
problem of noise record processing on tapes?
No The lower limit is higher when going to tape.
--
In 136401cda235$aff94dd0$0febe970$@mcn.org, on 10/04/2012
at 09:39 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
Who knows? Because it made sense to the programmer. We put lots of
empty lines in these e-mails. (Technically they contain one or two
delimiter characters,
No. Technically the message
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