In
of8230a144.9ea02174-on88257c3c.006cea00-88257c3c.006d8...@sce.com,
on 12/09/2013
at 11:56 AM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said:
Not sure what's meant by having to chain CCWs.
Read PoOps.
I just finished updating an old RYO program that writes 80 byte
records to any device
In p06240401ceca853cbacd@[192.168.2.101], on 12/08/2013
at 03:27 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com said:
Data in the computer is stored in 8-bit long bytes.
Data in a computer are stored in units dictated by the architecture.
For the S/360 it's 8-bit[1] bytes. I've seen word sizes of
In 9820584016396110.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
12/08/2013
at 08:25 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
(The last is the maximum supported by channel programs, or was.)
2^16 is a limitation on a single CCW; it is not a limitation on a CCW
chain, and data chaining goes
In
a90e503c23f97441b05ee302853b0e629021484...@fspas01ev010.fspa.myntet.se,
on 12/09/2013
at 02:51 PM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se said:
OT, but does anyone know where I can find a REAL explanation of how
Quantum computing works ?
Have you read the wiki article? Anything more detailed
In 1891265032.6001250.1386631293335.javamail.r...@comcast.net, on
12/09/2013
at 11:21 PM, DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net said:
In general, hardware-oriented control blocks' mapping macros begin
with IHA,
That came later. IHA was originally Supervisor.
I must assume its mapping DSECT macro
In 20131210023525.GC6157@dlc-dt, on 12/09/2013
at 09:35 PM, David L. Craig dlc@gmail.com said:
Of course, real MVS programmers use STARTIO
Real MVS systems programmers understand the principle of least
privilege and don't write AC(1) code unless it confers an advantage of
some sort. In
In 04a901cef60d$abaf4040$030dc0c0$@mcn.org, on 12/10/2013
at 05:09 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
What the heck am I doing wrong?
BLKSIZE?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html
We don't care. We
In
0727804906280897.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu,
on 12/11/2013
at 11:30 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
Good idea, now I have pondering on it, I'll have a nice discussion
with my DRP team so we can replace DVDs with external hard drives.
Why
In
4ee2851a2279b94cb70cd69b17410609b7dfa...@s1flokydce2kx01.dm0001.info53.com,
on 12/17/2013
at 02:56 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com said:
If you want to completely remove all traces, then use this. change
yourfmid to the FMID(s) you want to remove:
What did he do to you?
APPLY
In
CAAFjFpFky=-aaA8-KS1i1R9vKwKH=pb269ryvdhwrutb5m0...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/14/2013
at 12:06 AM, venkat kulkarni venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com said:
LOGNAME command gives my RACF ID . Then what is the use of ID and
WHOAMI command.
To pass Unix certification, for one thing. Also, the UID may be
In
CAJTOO59_hM2AwcV8Z4a0Y3TqaTX=o4go1dctgy_gztx0dcc...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/13/2013
at 11:44 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said:
Multiple IDs can use the same UID number.
Yes, but you can get the userid in other ways.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO
In 1480926979.8195705.1387049432028.javamail.r...@comcast.net, on
12/14/2013
at 07:30 PM, DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net said:
The SMF EXCP counting code counts all EXCPs but not necessarily
all I/O requests. If your wayward job is using the STARTIO
access method or the Media Manager to do
In 52a9b59f.2090...@gmail.com, on 12/12/2013
at 09:09 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said:
Would they be seduced by a GUI?
The Devil is in the details. Would they be seduced by a GUI that was
as fast, functional, reliable and user friendly as the old interface?
Probably most would.
In 8p0ka91p0u2h3skg8nklk9o1sbmk4co...@4ax.com, on 12/12/2013
at 02:47 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said:
If the only code that is aimed for zAAP or zIIP is code that would
have run authorized anyway, then no additional exposure is caused
by their use.
That would be true if
In
a90e503c23f97441b05ee302853b0e6290237e7...@fspas01ev010.fspa.myntet.se,
on 12/12/2013
at 03:38 PM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se said:
Not I. If I compare a typical 3270-interface and a typical
PC/WEB-interface I generally can observe that the response times is
about 50 times better
In
435b77ba27fc254099b1763e498def664ca...@va1exc02.snaads.sinenomine.net,
on 04/16/2008
at 09:31 AM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net said:
The key to what I want is the Bookmaster tag set,
From what you wrote further on, you really mean BookManager; the
BookManager/BUILD tag set is a
In 52b0cc69.8070...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 12/17/2013
at 11:12 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said:
BTW: Who's using BDT?
JES3 users, unless IBM has finally fixed it so that it can do NJE
without BDT.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position; see
In 20131222125014.GB23307@dlc-dt, on 12/22/2013
at 07:50 AM, David L. Craig dlc@gmail.com said:
And don't come back with real MVS programmers don't need to debug
their code. ;-)
I'd be the last person to make, or defend, such a statement.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and
In
CAFO-8tpGjfigAn8qw8BXXCqpVywcZ94DnXo=yicihgjk5ig...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/27/2013
at 06:31 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said:
Is there a simpler way to see whether we were called in key 8 (not
that this is that complicated):
EPSW R14,R0Extract PSW
SLL R14,8
In e1odb9ptb08f9rl26d93uugpu47jd9v...@4ax.com, on 12/22/2013
at 08:52 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said:
Also 48 bits on the Honeywell 800 and Burroughs B5000.
Yes, and several others, for one of which I used to have lust in my
heart.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg
In 0871825165316453.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
12/22/2013
at 10:56 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
ATTACH/DETACH appeared contemporaneously with TSO!?
IBM Operating System/360 Concepts and Facilities, C28-6535-0, is ©1965
and mentions ATTACH. Even ATTACH for MFT
In 5000331903687025.wa.afg0510videotron...@listserv.ua.edu, on
12/22/2013
at 10:01 AM, Andreas F. Geissbuehler afg0...@videotron.ca said:
In the early '70 IBM released a new and improved CRJE called TSO,
CRJE was a new and improved CRBE, but TSO was something new.
I believe it was part of
In 1689901514.1458087.1387743082672.javamail.r...@comcast.net, on
12/22/2013
at 08:11 PM, DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net said:
I seem to remember working with some S/360 Model 55 MPs at an FAA Air
Route Traffic Control Center in 1978.
ITYM 9020, which used modified S/360 processors as
In 1912514778140765.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
12/24/2013
at 03:01 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
http://boingboing.net/2013/12/24/queen-elizabeth-pardons-turing.html
In my view, the Queen should have pardoned every man and woman
persecuted under the cruel and
In h2ekb9lp58c21i7ajmuu8b5hg1d38nn...@4ax.com, on 12/24/2013
at 09:46 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said:
Subject line says it all. My understanding of most discussions here
is that the answer is yes.
The answer is different for ZIIP and ZAAP.
Then the second question is
In 017401cefffc$510bc390$f3234ab0$@mcn.org, on 12/23/2013
at 11:30 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/360/os/R19_Jun70/GC28-6628-5_System_Control_Blocks_Rel_19_Jun70.pdf
gives the layout of the TCB and the field names all begin with TCB.
Page
In 20131225020725.60c1924...@panix5.panix.com, on 12/24/2013
at 09:07 PM, Randy Hudson i...@panix.com said:
No JES then; HASP might have been available, but it mostly worked
by emulating devices and hooking into standard exits (IEFUJV,
IEFUJI) to massage the JCL to point to its (pseudo-)
In
CAE1XxDF1kgwAt+nJgHsWHPjuqPwBawHfAC2wQNb7h7=7pfy...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/22/2013
at 07:10 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Shmuel writes
begin extract
Nonsense; I/O channels on the 7090 were binary. The fact that the
7909 was an 8-bit channel rather than a 6-bit channel doesn't
In 8988413032026434.wa.herowith.zerogmail@listserv.ua.edu, on
12/28/2013
at 08:28 AM, Rajesh Kumar herowith.z...@gmail.com said:
I need a good tutorial for rexx and cobol.
REXX Reference Summary Handbook, ISBN 0-9639854-2-6
REXX in 21 Days
Both out of print, alas.
--
Shmuel
In 5c8fv3f78unypshw9tyopynk.1388251271...@email.android.com, on
12/28/2013
at 12:21 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
The user-friendly interactive nature of CMS.
Rhat would seem to describe TSO as well. The only place where CMS has
a clear edge, IMHO, is XEDIT.
--
Shmuel
In m3zjnjsodg@garlic.com, on 12/29/2013
at 09:50 AM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said:
note that (at least low-end and mid-range) 360s 370s were emulation
on some native microprocessor ... so 5100 wasn't all that different.
The data paths on the 2030, 2040, 2050, 2065 and 2085
In
caarmm9qj3myeauuvhm0dmhx-cpqm2ayso3qc9anon5kznbc...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/29/2013
at 06:03 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
I imagine it's written in C, since it runs on Windows and Linux on
i86,
Cite? There are BookManager products on windoze, but I'm not aware of
any that accept
In 07dd01cf055e$eb92e0d0$c2b8a270$@mcn.org, on 12/30/2013
at 07:59 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
It's really a separate topic, but I think there is little doubt
that it makes sense to edit code of any sort in some fast
character-at-a-time interactive environment even if the target
In 1388417488.11875.16.camel@localhost, on 12/30/2013
at 10:31 AM, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com said:
Though the wikipedia article doesn't mention it, my recollection is
that Magnuson's M80 system was microprogrammable by the user.
Anybody remember/use that?
Remember.
--
Shmuel
In 0f20e5de-10c1-4297-9d1f-f0f2c23cc...@optonline.net, on 12/30/2013
at 05:15 PM, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net said:
I started from ASXBFTCB looking at TCBJPQ which had a CDE entry but
not for program on the job step.
There may be more than one job step in an address space.
In
CAArMM9SSRtTZ=YtZ1J=061vX2f8pwMf=eeasizbwkllmacv...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/30/2013
at 03:29 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
It seems plausible that at least some of the code would be common
with other platform implementations.
Are you talking about BookManager/READ? That's not
In
8244105070189912.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu,
on 12/31/2013
at 11:11 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
Hmmm, I wonder, did someone actually read ProOps from first to last
page and understanding everything with only one RTFM? ;-D
Yes, but I
In 660c973e-4a5c-4e6c-9e94-3301602f9...@yahoo.com, on 12/31/2013
at 04:10 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
Is the DCF format for Book Manager available ?
The documentation of the BookManager/BUILD tag set is available; the
macros that implement it are copyrighted. Similarly for
In
caarmm9qnrw0pvarh6ta0p2duevngxkfrfajczuwwjctzjx3...@mail.gmail.com,
on 12/31/2013
at 03:40 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
I'm not aware of any dispute.
?
The OP
Mentioned the core Bookie code.
Out of the blue
See above.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
In 28b0c42e-730c-4eb1-8d23-8022a3cdd...@yahoo.com, on 01/02/2014
at 11:54 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
Reading manuals.what's that ...seen a lot of wanting instant
gratification instead of doing the research first and then asking
questions
When the manual is well over 1K
In
cc42e2f56d60f24fb8a6bcc639d1d96306d08...@samtcasxmb13.usa.dce.usps.gov,
on 01/02/2014
at 06:10 PM, Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov
said:
So the OS/MVT and OS/VS2 TSO Data Utilities: COPY, FORMAT,LIST,MERGE
User's Guide and Reference (SC28-6765-4) shows the options for
In
ofca19006c.9b43266e-on85257c54.006478fb-85257c54.0065c...@tsys.com,
on 01/02/2014
at 01:31 PM, Kirk Talman rkueb...@tsys.com said:
PDP stood for personal data processor.
Programmable.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position; see
In 8d0d6ab843cdf6c-15b0-11...@webmail-m245.sysops.aol.com, on
01/03/2014
at 09:59 AM, Mitch mitc...@aol.com said:
I will talk with someone at a vendor site that may be able to do
something close to this. May I ask for other input from anyone
else that sees value in this?
I liked the idea
In
!!AAAYAJXIDufoOyhGhgKtFLrs5tbCgAAAEJSwPVy4YgRPs/aYb0rjcHgBAA==@optonline.net,
on 01/05/2014
at 01:01 PM, MichealButz michealb...@optonline.net said:
After using TESTAUTH many times I got the message listed below
Has someone removed TESTAUTH from the authorized
In
!!AAAYAJXIDufoOyhGhgKtFLrs5tbCgAAAEHgHztPQ3sNJi6d9su/5f2IBAA==@optonline.net,
on 01/05/2014
at 06:41 PM, MichealButz michealb...@optonline.net said:
Would anyone know to display TSO FULL SCREEN UNDER ISPF
What are you asking? How to wirite an ISPF dialog? How to
In 1934743922114507.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/05/2014
at 08:33 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Bad design; wrong layering, but typical of IBM. Properly, the TSO
command, full screen or line mode, should run in its split,
perceiving a screen geometry matching
In 52ca46c4.7050...@phoenixsoftware.com, on 01/05/2014
at 10:01 PM, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com said:
There is nothing special going on. Any program invoked as an ISPF
application can use standard ISPF DISPLAY services
The issue is a TSO fullscreen application, e.g.,SDSF, not some
In 4676648172689488.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/05/2014
at 08:39 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
*And* I believe SDSF stays in its split.
No; SDSF only honors ISPF splits if you run it as an ISPF application.
What Hank is talking about is running SDSF as a
In 50b183ed-12c8-4404-915c-4ce8217f2...@yahoo.com, on 01/06/2014
at 03:54 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
I agree, a lot of the young kids don't want to dig thru doc ,
research or learn how hardware and software work.
Sure, but is it a higher percentage than for the older folks?
In 20140106191027.17d7b33...@panix2.panix.com, on 01/06/2014
at 02:10 PM, Don Poitras poit...@pobox.com said:
Sure it does.
No; you're giving the right answer to the wrong question.
From the help file:
That confirms what Hank and I wrote. Specifically, However, when you
invoke SDSF as a TSO
In
cajb5jbtq_vynhg012mbaqvk4sfy+uwuehprfqvbx7hty4zi...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/06/2014
at 04:56 PM, Sanya Off sanya...@gmail.com said:
I wonder if some of you may share the experience and opinions with
regards to approaching a grand task of making an old IMS-based
monster application more
In 9db59a6e-9a50-4e6c-be95-9b9e3244b...@comcast.net, on 01/07/2014
at 11:59 AM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said:
Darren seems to be alive but it isn't clear who is in charge.
The issue isn't who is in charge, but what resources he has. Send your
list questions to
In 7280b0f7-a217-4d37-aea2-f1e46be53...@optonline.net, on 01/07/2014
at 11:48 AM, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net said:
I need to have a TGET
To have a full screen TPUT to display
What happens if you don't have a TGET before the TPUT FULLSCR? Did you
issue a STFDMODE? Did you use
In
caajsdjjarmx2jqj0awzwf1gnptnx_5eysazwro83e2ewsc5...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/08/2014
at 07:16 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
The LAN people _refused_ to believe that the OSA could fail that way
without disrupting all the IP sessions of the users on that OSA.
That's
In ed403499-6ec5-4b86-954e-6a81b175d...@comcast.net, on 01/08/2014
at 08:38 AM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said:
That is why I am surprised that Darren didn't get the message
There is a difference between didn't get and didn't notice.
but then that leaves the issue up in the air
Not
In
1e667f6bf4a6234ab758381402ef464d133cd...@loumbxwpg12s01.rsc.humad.com,
on 01/08/2014
at 11:01 PM, Steve Thompson sthompso...@humana.com said:
I seem to recall something about Named LNKLST.
Try 3.7 Changing the LNKLST Concatenation in z/OS MVS Programming:
Authorized Assembler Services
In 4384793391606637.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/09/2014
at 11:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Is this cloning, sometimes called deployment to a live system?
It seems there's a flaw in the process if the live system is not
updated by a process identical to
In 1389314155.47172.yahoomail...@web126205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on
01/09/2014
at 04:35 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
PC ( data using a foreign language Unicode page
What are you trying to say? If the PC is using Unicode then it will
transimit data as UTF-7 or UTF-8, which covers
In 022c01cf0da5$a7b25180$f716f480$@mcn.org, on 01/09/2014
at 05:45 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
There are several flavors of Unicode, but they relate to how the
code points are stored in a file or transmitted, not to the
character set.
Actually, those are transforms rather than
In 0e75a300-f7c5-46a7-a1d3-7189d2a58...@yahoo.com, on 01/09/2014
at 08:39 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
We send a data message from a pc, we encrypt it with AES128 , the
message is received at the host (z/OS) decrypted then converted from
ascii to ebcdic
If it really was ASCII
In 20140110034419.c71008f...@panix3.panix.com, on 01/09/2014
at 10:44 PM, Don Poitras poit...@pobox.com said:
As of z/OS 2.1, ISPF supports UTF-8, so a binary transfer will still
show an A if it was an A on the PC.
Only if the PC was using UTF-8 or translates to Unicode with UTF-8 as
part of
In
CAArMM9QOFq1jtzwmj=LWHTKkadMzx=aaqppbbqjnk+c8kuz...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/09/2014
at 09:00 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
There is no general way to convert UNICODE into EBCDIC,
There are EBCDIC transforms for Unicode. I'm not sure whether that
qulifies as EBCDIC.
--
In
of065337e4.0e9ce2ec-on48257c5c.0027bfa8-48257c5c.00297...@sg.ibm.com,
on 01/10/2014
at 03:30 PM, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com said:
Somehow I'm reminded of the save two characters impulse which then
caused a lot of angst in preparing for Y2K.
The situations are not comparable. With
In bay177-w36d24c9a61f3b6464b4992f2...@phx.gbl, on 01/10/2014
at 09:36 AM, Harry Wahl harry_w...@hotmail.com said:
You could use the BOM UTF characters
There are none. U+FEFF ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE is a Unicode
character.
usually inserted transparently at the beginning of a UTF file.
In 9931357931112854.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/10/2014
at 08:41 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Notepad? What's that? Perhaps some obsolete predecessor of
Wordpad?
No, it's a superior version of wordpad. HTH.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and
In
CAE1XxDHn0wgwJpm+cNLSdzv=ccvoz1u5o6em7xwxnqs4u0z...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/10/2014
at 09:50 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
As soon, however, as you need to support
o three or more different roman-alphabet natural languages, or
o a roman-alphabet language and a non-alphabetic
In
CAE1XxDHBJRiuFH7N-031xdJ3DUnO6QyG-=otde8fvnc-uyv...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/10/2014
at 11:02 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
The problem is not one of representability but of subset choice.
There is no problem of subset choice, because use of UTF-8 does not
imply a proper subset
In 9E263B5EE73E4E06BF755F95CEA935E8@barryf93b83d71, on 01/10/2014
at 10:22 AM, retired mainframer retired-mainfra...@q.com said:
I don't know anything about the recruiting firm or their customer.
I don't know about the customer, but SPCI has been around for decades.
--
Shmuel (Seymour
In
cae1xxdgwscr+ffp13_rperg4jmkferdgp4f6sxtz7v48o4g...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/10/2014
at 01:28 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Briefly, effective rules for encoding any 'character' recognized as a
Unicode one as a 'longer' UTF-8 one do not in general exist.
What are you drinking? RFC
In 03f701cf0e3c$d1a371d0$74ea5570$@mcn.org, on 01/10/2014
at 11:47 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
MS Word would say FOO^tBAR.
Have you reported the bug? That should be FOO^9BAR.
Parm2=FOOtabBAR
I'd go with that.
Parm2=FOO^tBAR
That would be flat wrong.
--
Shmuel
In 20140110195944.3d5f333...@panix2.panix.com, on 01/10/2014
at 02:59 PM, Don Poitras poit...@pobox.com said:
As far as 3270 goes, I think it's just going to us the CODEPAGE and
CHARSET you start ISPF with. I think it's going to be limited to the
set of EBCDIC code pages. As this is the first
In
ofe902f58f.ddd660b4-on88257c5c.006d8c43-88257c5c.006e4...@sce.com,
on 01/10/2014
at 12:04 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said:
An intriguing question in view of the absence of tabs in the
conventional EBCDIC character set.
What absence? HT is and always has been '05'X. VT is
In 043101cf0e4c$7944d050$6bce70f0$@mcn.org, on 01/10/2014
at 01:39 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
Both my aging Yellow Card
Yello? That's the new card. HT should be on the older green card as
well. And, in fact, it is: thank you, bitsavers.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,
In 044601cf0e4d$b4be3a30$1e3aae90$@mcn.org, on 01/10/2014
at 01:48 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:
It occurs to me that what may be meant is the absence of
control-character-based formatting in mainframe usage. On UNIX and
Windows systems, fields are often delimited by tabs
Making the
In 7503442349556875.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/12/2014
at 09:55 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Thereby sacrificing some small economy of storage. There are even
better arguments for deferring the disambiguation, such as:
o Use of tabs as field separators in
In 52d2d540.1020...@t-online.de, on 01/12/2014
at 06:47 PM, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de said:
IMO, the idea to put tab characters into files is wrong from the
beginning.
I don't agree; it's useful for text markup. I don't like taking away a
printable character as a logical tab.
In d91559ad-3ca0-4033-a2d6-a6c34ad4f...@comcast.net, on 01/10/2014
at 10:45 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said:
Somewhere in the far reaches of my memory there was a ZAP to tso EDIT
that worked eg:Label(tab char) br tabchar R15
Why a zap? What is TABSET, chopped liver?
SCRIPT was
In 20140111220658.62ce18f...@panix3.panix.com, on 01/11/2014
at 05:06 PM, Don Poitras poit...@pobox.com said:
I don't know how these characters are going to survive email,
Not without proper[1] MIME header fields; characters like, e.g.,
Copyright (©), Euro (€), Registered (®), Yen (¥), are
In
of0fb78386.d971c375-on88257c5c.00788311-88257c5c.007a9...@sce.com,
on 01/10/2014
at 02:19 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said:
To evaluate the existence of an EBCDIC tab character, let's take the
total number of instances in which any member of this list has ever
in their
In 8160871980876269.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/12/2014
at 03:28 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Doesn't understand UNIX line breaks.
I don't FTP text files as binary. NOTEPAD doesn't introduce fancy
formatting that I didn't request and don't want. For me,
In
CAE1XxDF7qr2ek3mdCFRsgdqUjpReOCmCs5qqfckwMY7sh=t...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/12/2014
at 05:11 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
If I argued that the comments prefixed to a routine described its
putative algorithm correctly and that the routine itself could thus
contain no error, Shmuel
In 7ee50a70-b843-4093-9d30-9225ade4f...@optonline.net, on 01/15/2014
at 01:44 PM, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net said:
From the doc it seems run detaches the TSO test TCB so PSATOLD is valid
correct ?
What are you trying to ask? The RUN subcommand of TEST doesn't detach
the TEST TCB,
In
CAArMM9T5iAWomwY=mpt5lazdbz7xaz0h6b0nhyjws0ymc0o...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/13/2014
at 02:27 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
But no one would say that UTF-8 *is*
ASCII, or that UTF-EBCDIC *is* EBCDIC.
Well, all ASCII characters are valid single octet UTF-8 sequences, so
I would say
In 7216707982190237.wa.brianwestermansyzygyinc@listserv.ua.edu,
on 01/16/2014
at 12:57 AM, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com said:
Any comments or suggestions?
You can't please everybody, and what please a user in the more common
scenarios might not please him in exceptional
In
CAAJSdjgZ9QWkX4=cZfqBfKfivB33E6Ny=ukd15fc_tvauhq...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/16/2014
at 07:32 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
Not a direct response to your question, but something that has been
running around in my mind lately (lots of room there). Why email?
Because it's
In
9f187145e7dd6e4398287ff781d211350a308...@046-ch1mpn1-042.046d.mgd.msft.net,
on 01/17/2014
at 01:12 PM, van der Grijn, Bart (B) bvandergr...@dow.com said:
I can't figure out how to override this setting for my IKJEFT01 step.
What happens if your REXX code sets _BPX_SHAREAS using the
In
caajsdjhom97scaffzr_jbb6rokt-yo9+wst3-dxgkca5+cj...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/17/2014
at 08:59 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
paxRC=bpxwunix(wCMD,,DD:PAX,stderr.)
That provides a DD for stdout; the OP needs a dd for stdin:
paxRC=bpxwunix(wCMD,DD:PAX,STDOUT.,STDERR.)
--
In 0de6a9840123e547b061ac5b6765c026cee...@exmb-05.ad.wsu.edu, on
01/18/2014
at 02:52 AM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu said:
Except, and pardon my ignorance, I have never been able to follow his
attribution link to anywhere useful.
Do you mean When I cite an RFC, when I give a URL, or when I
In 52d98efa.50...@aim.com, on 01/17/2014
at 01:13 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
*But* leave enough header information (Date: and From:) as
citation so the readercan refer to the full text of the cited
article in the Archives.
Those that care about long established Internet
In 1389977617.39838.yahoomail...@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com, on
01/17/2014
at 08:53 AM, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net said:
Look at your DSName. It is not a valid MVS dataset name:
What gives you that idea?
too many characters without a period.
No; look at the trace he gives in a
In
ofbd8bb0dc.d53a-on48257c64.00593e08-48257c64.005c3...@sg.ibm.com,
on 01/19/2014
at 12:45 AM, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com said:
If you're planning to insert a Web link in the e-mail -- Click Here
for More Information or similar -- then you can cheat a bit. The
URL itself could
In
cajtoo58mfcezx2tdshvhbt9njz9po+bor-xhwr0crzu7ury...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/18/2014
at 11:53 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said:
How about a tinyurl style URL with a SMS message to email or twitter.
That still requires the recipient to have a cell phone with SMS
active. In the US
In 0158509868278815.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/20/2014
at 11:17 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
I agree with John, rather the Shmuel. In the OP's command (which
Shmuel trimmed), it appears that he was trying to write a pax
archive, not extract one.
The
In 0de6a9840123e547b061ac5b6765c026d05...@exmb-05.ad.wsu.edu, on
01/20/2014
at 08:30 AM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu said:
In this particular message, I mean stuff below between starting
0DE6A98401.
That's a message id. Those with fully functional mail software can use
it to search for
In 4955235761654675.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/21/2014
at 12:09 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
And your (mis)interpretation to be
disingenuous rather than misinformed.
Then I consider you ro be a fool and a hypocrite. Presumably you have
never overlooked an
In 5888946518314654.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
01/21/2014
at 12:14 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Is message ID specified/required in some
successor to RFC 822?
Even RFC 822 specifies it, under optional fields. In the current
standard, RFC 5322, it says:
3.6.4.
In 0de6a9840123e547b061ac5b6765c026d13...@exmb-05.ad.wsu.edu, on
01/21/2014
at 08:25 AM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu said:
I guess Outlook and Exchange are not fully functional mail software.
I've seen much harsher judgements of them, starting with b0rken and
going down from there.
--
In 52de617c.2020...@gmail.com, on 01/21/2014
at 08:01 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said:
There are tons of URL safe base64 encoders/decoders out there
He's trying to shorten the URL; BASE64 encoding would lengthen it.
OTOH, I can conceive of situations where BASE64 would be more
In 1672677481329115.wa.brianwestermansyzygyinc@listserv.ua.edu,
on 01/22/2014
at 03:38 AM, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com said:
I have handled the HTML/TEXT email stuff, currently I build both
parts of the email, and send it, unless the client site has specified
NOHTML, in
In
cae1xxdhdqs_qmqcs0m1fpvbxbf9dov4-rnb5bmds6p9fog-...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/22/2014
at 11:27 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Tom Marchant wrote
begin extract
There might be cases where an 8 character symbol name won't work.
For example, when a symbol represents a volume serial
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