I seem to remember that action when working on a PDP11 using a VT100
terminal. It was as if the designers said, hey, you obviously want a CR
in the middle of the line, so there you go.
And to Linux users, TSO READY mode must look really odd when they find
they can move the cursor to a previou
So what's the fastest way to clear a register?
Maybe that will get things back to mainframes, and I even know what a
mainframe is.
On 8/7/2023 4:42 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
America should never allow trucks as large as we do. Should also not permit
doubles and even triples and all trucks shou
That will get all of them at once, I said A register :)
On 8/7/2023 5:24 PM, Steve Thompson wrote:
EMP?
Steve Thompson
On 8/7/2023 8:03 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
So what's the fastest way to clear a register?
Maybe that will get things back to mainframes, and I even know what a
main
LOL - As a tech person, I'll never fully understand why it makes such a
big difference to sales folks that a machine is purchased by say, June
30, and the old z13 has to be back at IBM 60 days later. But I don't
have to live with them :) :)
On 8/8/2023 6:43 AM, Phil Smith III wrote:
...phs
ext, so it isn't so much single instructions
being optimized but the outcome of a sequence. Clearing a register is
recognized as a trivial special case (IBM has the patent).
On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 10:03 AM Tom Brennan
wrote:
So what's the fastest way to clear a register?
Maybe that
Very funny, until they go back to their CIO and say, "This platform is
getting way too expensive. Time to look at SAP on x86 again."
On 8/14/2023 12:52 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:
Every time a recruiter calls me I have a sure way get rid of them and
increase what they need to pay.
They ask m
Thanks Timothy. I've been saying this for years but this might be the
first time I've heard a top IBMer say it.
On 8/14/2023 10:17 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
Tony Thigpen wrote:
And, that I can agree with. Especially when the admin stores passwords
in their browser.
Yes, but not required. I
LOL - It's relative :)
My dad always joked that he graduated in the top 90% of his class.
On 8/15/2023 11:02 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
Tom Brennan wrote:
Thanks Timothy. I've been saying this for years but this might be
the first time I've heard a top IBMer say it.
D
He had me at "Supports EBCDIC". The other 2 hex editors on my PC don't,
and I've had trouble in the past trying to convert in my head,
especially lower case. One time I remember running a test and purposely
used only numbers as data because I could translate those easily.
On 8/19/2023 10:29
Wow, you reminded me of SMP4, my first. Exclude lists! And what was
that option so it didn't read/write each PDS directory entry separately
and take all day? SMP/E was like a revolution. Great work by the
designers.
On 8/24/2023 12:05 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Symbols?
SMP may not be per
R.pdf>
Page 85
Regards,
David
On 2023-08-24 15:16, Tom Brennan wrote:
Wow, you reminded me of SMP4, my first. Exclude lists! And what was
that option so it didn't read/write each PDS directory entry
separately and take all day? SMP/E was like a revolution. Great work
by the
A bigger problem is Jon says things like this with such conviction and
authority that other people reading these posts, perhaps years from now,
will think they are true.
On 8/26/2023 7:31 PM, David Spiegel wrote:
Hi Jon,
You said: "...The M in SMP/e stands for Maintenance ..."
This statement h
By themselves, probably few here would care. But you used M=Maintenance
and the 1MB limit as part of your comparison of SMP/E vs. Linux install
methods. That's when it becomes more of a problem.
On 8/26/2023 8:39 PM, Jon Perryman wrote:
I grant you that M stands for Modification and that som
LOL "a while"
On 8/28/2023 9:49 AM, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
I think it was mentioned in this list previously that EQUALS in DFSORT has a
lower limit on maximum number of records than SYNCSORT.
Michael,
Can you please provide link to that topic that mentions that DFSORT has a lower
limit than th
Does that work? In the past when I created a self-signed cert (for
Apache on Linux), adding it to the trusted certs didn't work (at least
in Chrome). I still got the evil warnings. I ended up creating my own
CA, used that to sign the web cert, and then copied the CA to the
trusted certs in C
at will be trusted by their browsers
without any question, and mount a man-in-the-middle attack on their banking.
CM
On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 16:23:55 -0700, Tom Brennan
wrote:
Does that work? In the past when I created a self-signed cert (for
Apache on Linux), adding it to the trusted certs didn&
8/29/2023 8:24 AM, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 8/29/23 10:07 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
And you can specify an expiration far in the future.
Remember, some web browsers are capping the limit on the lifetime of
certificates they
All true I think, except it's openssl on Linux not Windows.
On 8/29/2023 8:46 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
Don't want to get into one of the peeing contests that have become all too
common here.
Let me just say that never mind any enterprise PKI CA constraints, I think Tom
was talking about OpenS
I trust your certificate experience. But let's get back to the HMC
issue for a second. So the only secure way to get rid of the Firefox
warnings and red messages is to use an externally-signed certificate
(paid for), and I think that means a manual process to update the HMC
web cert/key every
cert, maybe not possible anymore
with the browser cap you mentioned.
On 8/29/2023 12:08 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 8/29/23 12:07 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
All true I think, except it's openssl on Linux not Windows.
OpenSSL is multi-platform and can run on Windows a myriad of ways, if
I looked at letsencrypt and zerossl and decided on zero because I liked
the support, the 1 year certs, and their API. The API supports ACME but
hey, I call myself a programmer so I rolled my own. I use their email
authentication through an automated method I created, but they do have
DNS reco
wrote:
On 8/29/23 6:39 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
It's those last couple of steps that I assume would need to be done
manually on an HMC via GUI.
I have no idea if IBM offers a supported solution or not.
I would waver that there are some unsupported solutions that IBM would
wag a finger at
I've been told by IBMer's not to talk about such things, so I need to
drop out now.
On 8/29/2023 10:05 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 8/29/23 9:49 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
Just to be clear, I'm not talking about doing anything to the HMC that
isn't sanctioned by IBM.
I as
Me too, with a From: test using Thunderbird on my PC. It can also check
for a body text string, for example, " XXX wrote:" to somewhat
filter other people's responses to whoever that person might be who
matches the X's.
On 8/30/2023 9:49 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
What I do is set up email
In my limited experience I logon to the HMC port 443 as usual, but then
a switch to single-object-operations redirects me to the same URL but
with :995x appended. Can I assume this switch happens when you go to
SOO or perhaps do something else requiring the SE?
Wild guessing: If the OS on thi
I remember that product! But I thought it worked with a DD, something
like: //PROCLIB DD DSN=TED013.PROCLIB,DISP=SHR
When JCLLIB came out, we dropped the product and wrote some code in JES2
exit 4 to convert PROCLIB to JCLLIB so users didn't have to change their
JCL.
I thought ORDER= was d
I just found some old JCL for EasyProc and sure enough, it's coded like:
//PROCLIB DD DSN=TED013.PROCLIB,DISP=SHR
... with a DD. But that doesn't mean it went through standard DD
allocation. All this happened early in the JCL scanning and conversion.
The "DD" and maybe even the DISP=SHR was
True, they could have done that. They could have also used //PROCLIB
and saved us some kludge coding :) Unless there was some concern about
getting sued by CA. Oh well, it's all history now.
On 8/31/2023 10:48 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 10:39:34 -0700, Tom Brennan
Thanks, I forgot about that. But we may have known it at one time,
because I "think" we coded our exit 4 conversion from PROCLIB to JCLLIB
with that in mind.
On 8/31/2023 10:50 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
EasyProclib did DD concatenations.
---
Yes - Here's a quick blurb from some IBM doc I have on my PC:
"Simultaneous multithreading is the ability of a single physical
processor (core) to simultaneously dispatch instructions from more than
one hardware thread context. Because there are two hardware threads per
physical processor, add
I can't be sure I formatted it properly, but after looking over the
code, I have nothing to say but WTF? :)
PRINT NOGEN
TITLE 'Simple Addition Program'
** Define storage for input numbers and result
*
NUM1 DSF First input number
NUM2 DSF
I just moved the cursor to where I thought a line should end and pushed
Return.
On 9/4/2023 11:04 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 10:42:51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:
I can't be sure I formatted it properly, ...
What did you do to fix it? (List the steps, or did you just r
t claims to do.
-- Tom Marchant On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 10:42:51 -0700, Tom Brennan
wrote:
I can't be sure I formatted it properly, but after looking over the
code, I have nothing to say but WTF? 😄
PRINT NOGEN
TITLE 'Simple Addition Program'
** Define stor
Exactly. The instructions, registers, etc. are not that difficult to
learn. It's the macros, control blocks, subsystems, interrupts, memory
layout, SVC's, (and I could go on and on) that can be the real value in
doing ASM programming. If you're going to be a developer, or even
installation s
GET and PUT use R14, so as Tom Marchant said, if the program managed to
get that far it would never return to the OS.
On 9/5/2023 10:21 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 11:34:13 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:
[if] it made it to the BR 14, it would loop.
??? Rather, that appea
"Housekeeping".
Regards,
David
On 2023-09-05 13:47, Tom Brennan wrote:
GET and PUT use R14, so as Tom Marchant said, if the program managed
to get that far it would never return to the OS.
On 9/5/2023 10:21 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 11:34:13 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:
Quiet!! ChatGPT does this on purpose so it can read responses and get
ASM training from us puny humans :)
On 9/5/2023 1:06 PM, Tom Marchant wrote:
Nor does it know how to code instructions.
I don't know what this should be, but it isn't adequateor correct:
MAIN C 0NUM1 Che
Oh that's funny! Then what are these notes from you I found in my trash
folder? Sounds like you were sure it would assemble and run perfectly,
and also be able to take over someone's job today.
Why do you doubt it? Is it because you hope it doesn’t? Certainly, one
of you assembler geniuse
into
IT. Your comprehension of basic English are terrible.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 8:22 PM, Tom Brennan
wrote:
Oh that's funny! Then what are these notes from you I found in my trash
folder? Sounds like you were sure it would assemble and run perf
Oops... Yes! I was thinking ENTER/EXIT. My own macro set uses #ENTER
and #EXIT. I put the pound sign on everything so there's no confusion
with real instructions or IBM macros (well, at least I hope!)
On 9/5/2023 6:52 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 11:27:15 -0700, Tom Br
C coding, especially around string processing which can be pretty
difficult in ASM.
On 9/5/2023 7:27 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 19:03:53 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:
Oops... Yes! I was thinking ENTER/EXIT. My own macro set uses #ENTER
and #EXIT. I put the pound sign on everything
Your sample assembled fine but abended 0C1. I made some minor mods.
Hope you don't mind my pretend German in the comments :)
The biggest problem is trying to use R15 as a base. That gets messed up
by OPEN. The other problem is LA instead of L when loading R13 for the
return. I mix those up
If you wrote that code on Wiki from scratch without ever assembling it,
that's pretty amazing. My method is to basically copy, modify, and let
the computer find my problems - with lots of iterations. It's just a
different way to work I guess.
On 9/6/2023 12:29 AM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
Than
"reverse engineering" ??
25 years ago I joked about starting a company called "CopyCat Software"
and all we would do is duplicate expensive mainframe software. Of
course we would need as many lawyers as programmers :)
On 9/8/2023 8:24 AM, Bob Bridges wrote:
Without in the least wishing to o
t may have you learn some
of the systems internals logic and the like. Might come in handy one day.
Steve Thompson
On 9/8/2023 1:56 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
"reverse engineering" ??
25 years ago I joked about starting a company called "CopyCat
Software" and all we w
I'd say head them over to
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ProfessionalMainframers
In spite of the name, it's 90% nostalgia - maybe more. And there are a
lot of retired folks there to give upvotes and comments - unlike a new
email group.
For me, I don't mind anything reasonably on-topic. It'
I've never written code that runs as an SRB, but over the years I've
read about them and seen them in action, such as Omegamon poking code
into other address spaces to grab data or do things like zap memory. So
my simple understanding is an SRB is code that once scheduled, gets run
first when
y be in control on a CP and the current RB
will keep running until an interrupt). At some time MVS added the facility to
place the IRB whenever you want in the RB chain.
STIMER(M) w/o WAIT causes an IRB to be scheduled in the task when the interval
ends.
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 22:58:49 -0700 Tom Br
And keep that URL valid for the life of the message. Good luck with that.
On 9/18/2023 6:33 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 12:35:57 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
And include a URL for users of terminals that support links.
---
Thanks for the removal. Sorry if it causes trouble. A normal person
would just go make a new email id, but not Bill. His whole purpose here
was to disrupt.
On 9/18/2023 12:24 PM, Darren Evans-Young wrote:
I have removed Bill Johnson from the IBM-MAIN list and you all know why.
He has now o
True, and I've coded cross memory accesses and POST to wake up a TCB (of
mine) in another address space. That's all pretty easy. I can't fully
remember what Omegamon needed the SRB for but I'm pretty sure I read
about it in their doc.
On 9/19/2023 6:40 AM, Adam Johanson
I have at least one expired cert on a web site I can use for testing,
but that doesn't seem to be what you want. You want something
specifically marked as revoked, right?
So I just went to zerossl.com (what I use) and issued a revoke for a
cert. Zerossl's web site marks it as revoked. Of co
ve me the URL and port? Off-list if you prefer. I will let you know
what I see.
Charles
On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 17:12:04 -0700, Tom Brennan
wrote:
So I just went to zerossl.com (what I use) and issued a revoke for a
cert. Zerossl's web site marks it as revoked. Of course that doesn't
af
Also check the terminal type in the ISPF settings. I usually recommend
option 3 (3278). Things like option 5 (3290A) start sending graphic
escape characters for things like ] and can be confusing. Not sure how
this would relate to ! though. But maybe it's worth a quick look.
On 9/20/2023 3
Same as Lennie for me. I can't figure out what I'm supposed to do with
the pdx/idx files.
And I'm not just looking for manual titles. I'm also looking for the
product grouping that used to be in the html file.
On 9/29/2023 2:52 PM, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote:
Tom,
When I do as you sugges
Here are my notes: https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/pdx.html
On 9/29/2023 9:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 22:07:33 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote:
CA has taken to combining all their various TSS manuals into one gigantic PDF;
no more individual manuals for installation, the adm
Over the years I've been trying to maintain a VBS script that reads the
html file and produces Windows shortcuts. But of course it can't work
at all without the html index. https://blog.mildredbrennan.com/?p=797
On 10/1/2023 5:09 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
I have a WiP script that contains n
This isn't the answer you're looking for, but what I do is create an
ISPF panel with the screen image and fields and colors that I want, then
I use ISPF 7.2 to display the screen.
Then at least one terminal emulator I know of has a function that reads
the last I/O buffer that arrived from the
Yes! Lionel mentioned that this morning in another group. And I'm
pretty sure it was his pressure that got IBM's attention. Thanks Lionel!
On 10/10/2023 1:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 22:24:51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:
Over the years I've been trying to
Rich, this post is much better :) Your first post about an EBCDIC font
is probably something no Windows terminal emulator does. Otherwise the
user would be really limited in font selection. In fact, I've never
even seen an EBCDIC font although I guess they must exist.
I'd go out on a limb a
True! But with one terminal emulator I use a lot, there is no APL
character support. There are still GE (Graphic Escape) characters, but
those are just for display. If you try to copy the GE characters ISPF
uses for boxes, the sides and corners are converted to ASCII characters
like this:
I do, I just haven't had a chance yet to try it with the new 3.1 htm
file and (most likely) make any needed changes. Later today...
On 10/10/2023 9:46 PM, Brian Westerman wrote:
Tom,
Do you still have the PC script that builds the nice directory with the manual
names?
Brian
--
Well, I said "today" but it's now 8 minutes after midnight so I missed
it by that much. The IBM index file was changed again so my old code
needed to be pretty-much redone. It seems to work ok for me, creating
directories and shortcuts. It also creates a new file index.html which
is a simple
I don't really use Edge, but like Chrome, there's an option for either
downloading the file or viewing in the browser. I just did this just
now in Edge:
- Clicked the 3 dots at the far right of the address bar and selected
Settings
- Typed PDF in the search field and scrolled down until I f
On 10/18/2023 9:53 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Can windows shortcuts use relative paths?
Maybe, but it doesn't work for me on Win 10:
Currently my VBS script creates links like this depending on what
directory you are in when you run the script (pwd):
https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/shortc
to
each other which reference the original IBM filename.
On 10/18/2023 4:57 PM, Jon Perryman wrote:
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:02:15 -0700, Tom Brennan
wrote:
On 10/18/2023 9:53 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Can windows shortcuts use relative paths?
Maybe, but it doesn't work for me on Win
No thanks, I'll just stick with what I have since it works already.
On 10/18/2023 8:27 PM, Jon Perryman wrote:
Point taken about the problems. If you don't want the CMD screen popping up,
then change the shortcut to run minimized.
Have you thought about generating a word document with hyperlin
Great notes Eric, thanks! And some newer folks might wonder why the
first person to look at a problem is called Level 2. When I started in
the 1980's you made a phone call to IBM support and got a Level 1
person. That person (as far as I could tell) basically tried to match
your symptoms up
Before my time with VM! What was this "RESERVEd" lines thing?
Something like the lines at the bottom of a z/OS console?
On 11/7/2023 1:42 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:
Heh. Circa, um, 1984? 1985? It was a huge APAR that changed RESERVEd lines to
be per-screen instead of being global to XEDIT (among o
Just before I worked with mainframes I drew maps on a computer that had
a big display, a small drawing pad and pen, and a large light table with
a "puck" for tracing existing maps into the computer. Both the puck and
pen worked by receiving a magnetic signal from the pad or table in order
to d
That reminded me of Skip Robinson testing out autoipl parameters when
that was new, and one morning maybe 4am our Dev system died and IPL'd
itself. No notification, no complaints, and we only saw it by chance. I
think we added emails to ourselves via startup task after that.
On 11/28/2023 12:
Should I pay something to the guy who put the shingles on my house every
time it rains?
It's a trick question. I'm the guy who put the shingles on my house.
On 12/3/2023 12:07 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
When a bank runs an EFTPOS transaction, a fee is charged, all thanks to
some code. When t
Like Mike said, run your own CCW's with EXCP or similar. But you could
also get a quick look with a program that already does this, such as:
//ADRDSSU EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//VOL DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=VOLSER,DISP=OLD
//SYSIN DD *
PRINT INDD(VOL) TRACKS(0,1,5,15)
I remember adding X'00' to the instruction stream of a JES2 exit so it
would abend on a test box, in order to dump data at that point. I was
very confused because it got an 0C4 instead. Turned out the previous
owner apparently never tested the recovery routine.
But I think it's overkill for
So are you implying that in z/OS there are environments where I can run
a program without any built-in basic recovery?
On 12/22/2023 1:09 PM, Jon Perryman wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 10:26:41 -0800, Tom Brennan
wrote:
But I think it's overkill for a recovery routine to have it&
Nevermind, my question wasn't clear and I don't know how to better
explain it.
On 12/22/2023 5:25 PM, Jon Perryman wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 15:07:33 -0800, Tom Brennan
wrote:
So are you implying that in z/OS there are environments where I can run
a program without any buil
Thanks Peter! I always appreciate your responses and also the responses
from others at IBM. But I was trying to ask a question that I may not
be able to ask correctly. Let me try anyway:
I was referring to my experience with a JES2 exit which setup its own
recovery routine. In that code yo
Yes, and I'd add:
if you get 4096 - free 4096
Don't free 1024 like I did once. Code like that tests just fine but
then dies 8 hours later when the address space runs out :)
On 12/23/2023 8:12 AM, Colin Paice wrote:
Expanding on what Peter said. It is horses for courses.
If you are writing a
Side note: It's interesting you mentioned grep because the first time I
saw DSFS that's the command I wanted to run, to do searching that has
always been a bit difficult in MVS but easy in Unix.
On 12/23/2023 8:17 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 12/22/2023 3:37 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote:
Has anyone ma
Thanks Peter! Yes, it was the surprise of an 0C4 when I expected 0C1.
Sometimes when totally confusing things like that happen I first assume
the computer itself is at fault, not the code I'm working on. And guess
what, it's always the code :)
On 12/24/2023 5:58 AM, Peter Relson wrote:
Tom
Possibly the only file on the CBT that has its own web page, and it
certainly deserves it. I can't imagine working without it. Thanks to
John Kalinich and all those who came before.
On 12/27/2023 2:05 AM, Mike Schwab wrote:
https://www.cbttape.org/freepds.htm
On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 3:58 AM
I do some zCP3000 work too, and to avoid the transfer of large amounts
of SMF data, I ask the client to run the CP3KEXTR extract program which
(as you know) takes only what is needed for zCP3000 and creates
reasonably sized text files that can generally be emailed.
CP3KEXTR has an option to se
Unrelated, but the word TELEGENIX in that doc caught my attention.
Wasn't that a box that connected to a 3270 coax cable, acted like a
console (with no actual display), watched for certain messages, and then
displayed tape mount serial numbers on displays mounted on top of reel
tape drives?
I
What about IBM's zPCR Windows program? That uses a base performance
number from an old z9EC as a reference, coming up with numbers which
look like single processor speeds that can be compared. For example:
http://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/zpcr.png
On 12/14/2019 7:28 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
My oldest was just hitting 5 and couldn't reach the breaker box. But I
was at work anyway. I'm pretty sure everybody showed up, including the
IT dept head. There was basically nothing to do. Maybe about 15
minutes after midnight I was looking at a console with a couple of
managers behind me
> In the 90s Stewart Alsop famously predicted the end of the world.
I just checked my old book collection and found "Time Bomb 2000" by
Edward and Jennifer Yourdon. On the back it has questions like, Will
your car run?, Will there be food?, Will your PC work? ... Yep, I fell
for it. Marked
We probably should change the subject. Some suggestions:
1) What is the absolute best way to clear a register?
2) Exactly how many cycles does it take to do an LA instruction?
3) Is EBCDIC really that bad?
On 1/3/2020 12:04 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:
Was holding the primary for his replacement on
-gone
software
5) Why IBM's implementation of Posix time zones is flawed
6) Is JCL really that bad?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Tom Brennan
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 12:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
S
But a couple of minutes earlier you said:
> Well, I guess the proposal was to write a piece of software that a
> TN3270 client connects to and is able to exchange data with it.
Do you really have a 3174? Do you have a real IBM terminal?
Or another way to ask: If you created such a program, wha
I got your test message.
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Very interesting, to tell the truth.
On 1/31/2020 1:54 PM, Chris Hoelscher wrote:
Trivia: Who do you trust was an American game show primarily from 1957 -> 1962,
hosted by Johnny Carson and his announced Ed McMahon - it was on the basis of his
exposure in this endeavor that he was hired to rep
I heard about that bit in college. Do you know what it was supposed to
do internally?
On 2/10/2020 1:50 PM, Pew, Curtis G wrote:
On Feb 10, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:
ASCII wasn't finalized when the S/360 was announced. And it needed to
use existing 7 bit peripherals, tapes, etc.
Thanks, that makes sense.
On 2/10/2020 2:23 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:
Decimal instructions were affected. Character sets didn't really
affect other instructions.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 4:17 PM Tom Brennan wrote:
I heard about that bit in college. Do you know what it was supposed
I read a bit about him today, and I don't fully understand the software
"modes" that he was apparently against. My guess is they are talking
about the confusion I went through in my first BASIC college class,
where the terminal started with a dot as a prompt. You type BASIC and
the dot goes a
> “Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use
regular expressions." Now they have two problems.”
Funny! And this is quite a thread I'm skimming over. I'm not totally
sure if it's about old programmers who won't/can't change, or regular
expressions. But I'll add my
Boomer :)
On 2/28/2020 7:40 AM, Mitch Mccluhan wrote:
I VOTE FOR 2 SPACES!!! Is that loud enough? It has ALWAYS made reading,
easier.
Mitch
-Original Message-
From: Joel C. Ewing
To: IBM-MAIN
Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2020 9:26 am
Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx
-Original Message-----
From: Tom Brennan
To: IBM-MAIN
Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2020 9:49 am
Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as
placeholder]
Boomer :)
On 2/28/2020 7:40 AM, Mitch Mccluhan wrote:
I VOTE FOR 2 SPACES!!! Is that loud enough? It has ALWA
Maybe my problem is hereditary! My mom in La Mirada, California still
has a working rotary dial phone hanging on the wall. I believe it
doesn't even belong to her - they probably add a few dollars to the bill
for rent. Printed in the center of the dial is the phone number, "LA-1
" which
Keep up with the sarcasm... I have more where this came from :)
Everybody have a great weekend!
On 2/28/2020 12:54 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
OT. This forum is limited to questions related to punctuation and rotary dial
phones.
Charles
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
Thanks! A home museum!
On 2/29/2020 11:54 PM, Andrew Armstrong wrote:
Have a look at:
https://youtu.be/C0upso-RGF8
...I didn't realise (had no way of knowing really) that the IBM multi chip
modules were so colorful.
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