Re: DFSort Report question
In this case here is a sample record
HEADER('PassPhrase') ON(616,10,CH)
The ON value found in the input could be "LEGACY", "KDFAES" or "NOPHRASE".
What I would like to do is change LEGACY/KDFAES to PASSPHRASE if possible.
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>> The ON value could be "LEGACY", "KDFAES", "PASSWORD" or "NOPHRASE".
Lionel,
How do you determine which header value need to be used? I am guessing that
it is going to depend on a value in the file. If So we can dynamically
change it.
Thanks,
Kolusu
DFSORT Development
IBM Corporation
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DFSort Report question
Does anyone know who to change the value found in the ON to a more
meaningful value:
For example this: HEADER('PassPhrase') ON(616,10,CH)
The ON value could be "LEGACY", "KDFAES", "PASSWORD" or "NOPHRASE".
Thanks in advance
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Re: Rexx and DSFS
The dataset is FB 80 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, April 22, 2024 8:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Rexx and DSFS On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 06:50:15 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >I ran a test and this is what I found - IT WORKS FINE > >/dsfs/txt/lbdyck/lionel.exec>dir whoson >t IBM-1047T=on -rwxrwxrwx 1 BPXROOT OMVSGRP11367 Jan 31 15:14 >whoson > Interesting: <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=system-program-module-support> seems to imply that only members of RECFM=U PDS(E) are regarded as executable. What were the MVS DCB attributes of the data set? >/dsfs/txt/lbdyck/lionel.exec>./whoson >Interactive Users on 1 Systems: TSO Users: 1 SSH Users: 2 > >System: CBT Users: 3 >xxx xxxxx (ssh) >LBDYCKLionel B. Dyck >LBDYCKLionel B. Dyck (ssh) > >/dsfs/txt/lbdyck/lionel.exec> > Are there two different definitions of "executable" which the publication fails to distinguish? Could "chmod a-x" make the member mon-executable? -- Thanks, gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Rexx and DSFS
One more point on this - the very 1st line of the REXX code *must* have /* REXX */ starting in column 1. While TSO and VM REXX just care that the word rexx is in a comment on the 1st line - the shell REXX requires it begin in column 1 with the 1st word being REXX. hth Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 8:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Rexx and DSFS Can a Rexx Rexx exec usefully reside in a DSFS? It would need to be marked as executable. The following doesn't make it clear: <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=system-zos-unix-attributes-versus-data-set-attributes> Is there better information in the DSFS User's Guide? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Rexx and DSFS
I ran a test and this is what I found - IT WORKS FINE /dsfs/txt/lbdyck/lionel.exec>dir whoson t IBM-1047T=on -rwxrwxrwx 1 BPXROOT OMVSGRP11367 Jan 31 15:14 whoson /dsfs/txt/lbdyck/lionel.exec>./whoson Interactive Users on 1 Systems: TSO Users: 1 SSH Users: 2 System: CBT Users: 3 xxx x (ssh) LBDYCKLionel B. Dyck LBDYCKLionel B. Dyck (ssh) /dsfs/txt/lbdyck/lionel.exec> Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 8:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Rexx and DSFS Can a Rexx Rexx exec usefully reside in a DSFS? It would need to be marked as executable. The following doesn't make it clear: <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=system-zos-unix-attributes-versus-data-set-attributes> Is there better information in the DSFS User's Guide? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
SHARE Kansas City - August 4-8
Attention all those attending, or planning to attend, the next SHARE in Kansas City #sharekc2024. When you plan your travel don't forget that there are sessions on Thursday afternoon with the last session ending at 4pm. What this means is that if you leave early that you will miss out on the opportunity to attend a few dozen sessions. Using the last SHARE in Orlando as an example, if you had departed at noon you would have missed sessions on: - CICS TS 6.1 Performance - Exploring MQ Clustering - including Uniform Clusters - Keep Your Data Safe - User Experience - moving to a well-managed sysplex - What's New in PowerMax storage - z/OS Communication Server Intrusion Detection Services - Bit Bucket - CICS TS Nuts, Bolts, and Gotchas - Configuring LPARs to Optimize Performance - MQ Q-Sharing Group - Help with Workload Skewing - Software Containers on zCX in Real Production Environments - Sysplex Network Technologies and Considerations - Using AI Prompts for Mainframe Software Analysis And there were more sessions than just these and SHARE Kansas City will be just as good - if not better. Go to https://www.share.org/Events/SHARE-Kansas-City-2024 for details. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: grep ascii files...
Gil - no need to insult. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 8:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: grep ascii files... On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 07:36:15 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >Behold the power of Unix pipelines: > >$ iconv -f ISO8859-1 -t IBM-1047 myasciifile | grep MATCH > >iconv is not "first converting" the the whole file to EBCDIC since both >iconv and grep run at the same time :-) > OK, smartass. How about "grep -r". -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: grep ascii files...
I just used grep on a file tagged ISO8859 and it worked without using iconv. t ISO8859-1 T=on -rwxr-xr-x 1 XXX ZZZ 2618 Feb 20 08:21 cleanvi >grep 'IBM' cleanvi # Copyright 1996 IBM Corp. # The following enclosed code is sample code created by IBM # IBM product and is provided to you solely for the purpose # IBM shall not be liable for any damages arising out of your I used both /bin/grep and /zopen/grep and both worked Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 7:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: grep ascii files... Kirk, I want to directly grep ascii files instead of iconv first. ITschak *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux and IBM I **| * *|* *Email**: i_mugz...@securiteam.co.il **|* *Mob**: +972 522 986404 **|* *Skype**: ItschakMugzach **|* *Web**: www.Securiteam.co.il **|* בתאריך יום ה׳, 18 באפר׳ 2024 ב-15:37 מאת Kirk Wolf : > Behold the power of Unix pipelines: > > $ iconv -f ISO8859-1 -t IBM-1047 myasciifile | grep MATCH > > iconv is not "first converting" the the whole file to EBCDIC since > both iconv and grep run at the same time :-) > > Kirk Wolf > Dovetailed Technologies > https://coztoolkit.com > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, at 4:03 AM, ITschak Mugzach wrote: > > Is there any command to grep ascii files without the need to first > convert > > them to ebcdic (iconv -f)? > > > > ITschak > > > > ITschak Mugzach > > *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous > > Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM coming soon * > > > > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Program to split a jobs output
dsfs will definitely help Lionel B. Dyck < Website: GitHub.com/lbdyck Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden > On Apr 9, 2024, at 8:00 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 08:42:37 +, גדי בן אבי wrote: >> >> Today I had to sent a jobs output to IBM to help determine a problem. >> The jobs had 11 sysout datasets, and I wanted to send each one individually. >> >> Does anyone know of a program to do this automagically, before I see how >> complicated it would be to write one? >> > Willl DSFS help with this? > > WHr does the DSFS User's Guide say about this? > > -- > gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
DSFS IBM Idea - Please consider voting
Please consider voting on my new IBM Idea for /dsfs https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-4024 - this is requesting that dsfs have access to input datasets in the spool along with the currently supported output datasets. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Standard Packaging Rules for z/OS-Based Products - current version ???
P=(MOD,PASS) > //END EXEC PGM=IEBGENER > //SYSUT1 DD DATA,DLM=$$ > ++ PROC (JVMPRC16) DISTLIB(APROCLIB) SYSLIB(PROCLIB) TXLIB(APROCLIB). > $$ > //SYSUT2 DD DSN=&,DISP=(MOD,PASS) > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //SYSINDD DUMMY > //END EXEC PGM=IEBGENER > //SYSUT1 DD DATA,DLM=$$ > ZZ > // > $$ > //SYSUT2 DD DSN=&,DISP=(MOD,PASS) > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //SYSINDD DUMMY > //SAVEIT EXEC PGM=IEBGENER > //SYSUT1 DD DSN=&,DISP=(MOD,PASS) > //SYSUT2 DD DSN=SMPE.ZOS25.USERMODS(MAJV116),DISP=SHR > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //SYSINDD DUMMY > > Dave Jousma > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Lionel B. Dyck <057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 2:01 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Standard Packaging Rules for z/OS-Based Products - current > version ??? > The most current version of this pub that I can find is SC23-3695-10 and > it is from June 2003. The link for this is https: //urldefense. > com/v3/__https: //www. ibm. > com/resources/publications/OutputPubsDetails?PubID=SC23-3695__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!gG_my_jr_L8pFWOn6SH9laQW0OKkdjH816l_JWZA2Q5bldKsgKTPTUA0snjMDNVOH6MVVquK6anGn2fJd-6GXrsy2hdyv1UlzrU$ > > > The most current version of this pub that I can find is SC23-3695-10 and it > > is from June 2003. > > > > The link for this is > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ibm.com/resources/publications/OutputPubsDetails?PubID=SC23-3695__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!gG_my_jr_L8pFWOn6SH9laQW0OKkdjH816l_JWZA2Q5bldKsgKTPTUA0snjMDNVOH6MVVquK6anGn2fJd-6GXrsy2hdyv1UlzrU$ > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.ibm.com/resources/publications/OutputPubsDetails?PubID=SC23-3695__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!gG_my_jr_L8pFWOn6SH9laQW0OKkdjH816l_JWZA2Q5bldKsgKTPTUA0snjMDNVOH6MVVquK6anGn2fJd-6GXrsy2hdyv1UlzrU$ > > > > -10 > > > > Does anyone know of a link to a current version? > > > > Specifically, I'm curious about packaging for z/OS Unix System Services > > applications. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > > Github: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/lbdyck__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!gG_my_jr_L8pFWOn6SH9laQW0OKkdjH816l_JWZA2Q5bldKsgKTPTUA0snjMDNVOH6MVVquK6anGn2fJd-6GXrsy2hdyPDHVvtw$ > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/lbdyck__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!gG_my_jr_L8pFWOn6SH9laQW0OKkdjH816l_JWZA2Q5bldKsgKTPTUA0snjMDNVOH6MVVquK6anGn2fJd-6GXrsy2hdyPDHVvtw$ > > > > System Z Enthusiasts Discord: > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!gG_my_jr_L8pFWOn6SH9laQW0OKkdjH816l_JWZA2Q5bldKsgKTPTUA0snjMDNVOH6MVVquK6anGn2fJd-6GXrsy2hdyOxGUDZo$ > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!gG_my_jr_L8pFWOn6SH9laQW0OKkdjH816l_JWZA2Q5bldKsgKTPTUA0snjMDNVOH6MVVquK6anGn2fJd-6GXrsy2hdyOxGUDZo$ > > > > > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what > you > > are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may > be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If > you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate > it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, > copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is > prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender > that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your > computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Standard Packaging Rules for z/OS-Based Products - current version ???
The most current version of this pub that I can find is SC23-3695-10 and it is from June 2003. The link for this is https://www.ibm.com/resources/publications/OutputPubsDetails?PubID=SC23-3695 -10 Does anyone know of a link to a current version? Specifically, I'm curious about packaging for z/OS Unix System Services applications. Thanks in advance. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGGCSI00 Catalog Search interface
Once you have the dataset name from the catalog you can use the REXX LISTDSI service to get the dataset type (dsorg). Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Farley, Peter Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 10:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGGCSI00 Catalog Search interface Not everyone has access to DCOLLECT data (we are not all sysprogs with privileged access rights). IGGCSI00 can be used by most folks to query catalog data. Understanding that the DSNTYPE isn’t available in the catalog data, perhaps IEHLIST could be used (clumsily I admit) to “print” the VTOC data for each dataset and then scrape the listing for the answer? Possibly in the “SMS flags” area? Peter From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Oujesky Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 11:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGGCSI00 Catalog Search interface Have you looked at DCOLLECT data? Michael At 08:19 AM 3/14/2024, Don Johnson wrote: >Good morning! > >I am working with the IGGCSI00 module, and have looked at the field >descriptions and think I am missing something. > >Does anyone know the CSI field name and format where I can discover >if a file is a BASIC or LARGE DSNtype? > >Thanks! >Don -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Recent CBTTape Updates
Some recent updates to https://cbttape.org/updates.htm as reported using the CBTView ISPF Dialog (found in file 043) sorted with the most current date on top: File DescriptionDate 135 Greg Price Load Module library * 24/02/22 182 PDS Command Package--Version 8.6.21.0-PDSE Support * 24/02/22 035 LOAD MODULE file - Quick install of useful programs * 24/02/22 492 SHOWzOS 8.02 and 7.25, plus SHOWMVS 7.10 and 6.30* 24/02/21 614 SHOWMVS and SHOWzOS Load Libraries FB-80 XMIT format * 24/02/21 435 Frank Clarke's execs having to do with TSO userids * 24/02/14 433 Frank Clarke's collection of REXX execs, etc.* 24/02/14 997 ISPF Git Interface - ZIGI* 24/02/14 1051 ZEMF Dynamic SMF Exits Alteration Facility - B.Marino* 24/02/14 001 CBT DOC - Modified File 001 for Version 506 * 24/02/13 043 The Official CBT Dialog for easy access to all files * 24/02/12 648 ZRMS Resource Monitoring Subsystem from Ben Marino * 24/02/11 417 RACFADM - ISPF Dialog to make RACF admin easier. * 24/02/08 314 Lionel Dyck Collection of Utilities. TX thru Z * 24/02/01 312 Lionel Dyck Collection of Utilities. A thru R * 24/01/30 029 Cook Book instructions to Enlarge the VTOC of a pack * 24/01/24 977 URL Table for MOSHIX YouTube Mainframe Videos* 24/01/24 Just to highlight a few check out the enhanced PDS command (182), updated SHOWZOS (614), How to enlarge a VTOC (029), User Friendly RACF Dialog (417), and two new tools from Ben Marino (648 and 1051). Lionel B. Dyck <>< #IBMChampion #OMPAmbassador Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? And do you have git on your z/OS system?
GitHub does not offer a self-hosting option. There is GitLab which does have self-hosting but not on z/OS. Only the git client runs on z/OS under OMVS and there are two options for that - Rocket Software or z/OS Open Tools. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Colin Paice Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 4:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? And do you have git on your z/OS system? Is there a guide to installing and using github on z/OS? Or perhaps any gotchas? On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 at 09:09, Rob Scott wrote: > We use git on z/OS extensively throughout the company and it is one of > those tools where you end up thinking "how on earth did I function > effectively without it?". > > We also use BitBucket for our remote repos as it interfaces very > nicely with Jira. > > Rob Scott > Rocket Software > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Matt Hogstrom > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 8:32 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? > And do you have git on your z/OS system? > > EXTERNAL EMAIL > > > > > > Yes and yes. > > > > Matt Hogstrom > > “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive." > — Hogstrom > > > On Feb 14, 2024, at 14:16, Frank Swarbrick > > > wrote: > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > <mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>> on behalf of Lionel B. Dyck > > <057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu > > <mailto:057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 7:20 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>> > > Subject: Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? > > And > do you have git on your z/OS system? > > > > As part of the z/OS Open Tools project I'm asking if your z/OS > > system has access to GitHub. The reason for this question is that > > IBM, ISVs, and open-source developers are increasingly using GitHub. > > > > Questions: > > > >1. Do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? > >2. Do you have git installed on your z/OS system? > > > > Thank you > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ■ 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA > 02451 ■ Main Office Toll Free Number: +1 855.577.4323 Contact Customer > Support: > https://my.rocketsoftware.com/RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport > Unsubscribe from Marketing Messages/Manage Your Subscription > Preferences - > http://www.rocketsoftware.com/manage-your-email-preferences > Privacy Policy - > http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy > > > This communication and any attachments may contain confidential > information of Rocket Software, Inc. All unauthorized use, disclosure > or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, > please notify Rocket Software immediately and destroy all copies of > this communication. Thank you. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Query - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? And do you have git on your z/OS system?
As part of the z/OS Open Tools project I'm asking if your z/OS system has access to GitHub. The reason for this question is that IBM, ISVs, and open-source developers are increasingly using GitHub. Questions: 1. Do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS system? 2. Do you have git installed on your z/OS system? Thank you Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question
I got this update from an IBM contact - hope it helps: "I'm not sure if the question was answered, but any Python from Rocket at the 3.10 or later level is the IBM SDK." Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of kekronbekron Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 11:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question Someone will correct me if/where I'm wrong. Open Enterprise SDK for Python - Just python. Comes with pip and virtualenv or venv, which are included in Python distribution these days. pip = package manager. virtualenv / venv = environment manager. Rocket Python = Rocket delivers the open source tools it delivers through Anaconda, which is a Python environment + package manager. I haven't looked but I believe they deliver Bash, and some other tools also via Anaconda "channels". ZOSOpen Tools's Python = It's an empty wrapper. At the moment, it just exists to add itself as a dependency to any Python project you may want to port. All it does is check if Python exists in your sys. Upstreaming zOS-relevant bits of code to Python, I think, is happening completely separate from ZOSOpen Tools's Python. Some of it may well be tied with "Python AI Toolkit for Z". PATZ = Close to OE SDK for Python, but delivered via an IBM hosted & managed repository manager (ex: JFrog Artifactory, Sonatype Nexus). The difference is, PATZ is also a source for python packages that have zOS support (+ acceleration where possible I think) added. There's also the layer of safety of it coming from an IBM "stash" rather than pypi.org directly. pypi = the "stash" where "pip install thing" will get a package from, by default. On Thursday, February 8th, 2024 at 00:01, Rick Troth wrote: > The closest standard is Python's "ctypes". > Now ... some of the guides I have read say that CTYPES only works with > C, but I've found that (within limits) LE calling convention works > well with other languages, not just C. > > In a previous life, I was able to call C from Python (the point being > "to call /native/") without any special rigging other than CTYPES > (included w Python). > > -- R; <>< > > > > On 2/7/24 12:32, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > > Add to that question how does the z/OS Open Tools port of python > > compare to Rockets and to the IBM Open Enterprise SDK? > > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > > Github:https://github.com/lbdyck > > System Z Enthusiasts Discord: > > https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 > > > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is > > what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - > > John Wooden > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion listibm-m...@listserv.ua.edu On > > Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick > > Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 11:30 AM > > To:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Question > > > > So here's a curious question. Are IBM Open Enterprise SDK for Python > > and the Python from Rocket Software basically the same, or no? > > > > Frank > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion listibm-m...@listserv.ua.edu on > > behalf of Peter sylvesterpeter.sylves...@gmail.com > > Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 11:15 PM To:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Question > > > > Yes, from the IBM pax installation. And a bit of pipifax. :-) > > > > Python 3.12.0 (heads/pyz_dev-3.12:ef647e3673, Oct 31 2023, 19:02:59) > > [Clang > > 14.0.0 (build 1465bdb)] on zos On 06/02/2024 19:47, Ed Jaffe wrote: > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > : >python > > > Python 3.11.4 (heads/pyz_dev-3.11.ziip:39640ccf4b, Jul 15 2023, > > > 05:46:13) [Clang 14.0.0 ] on zos Type "help", "copyright", "credits" > > > or "license" for more information > > > On 2/6/2024 10:15 AM, Steve Beaver wrote: > > > > > > > Does anyone have Python installed in your shop? > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructio
Re: Question
Add to that question how does the z/OS Open Tools port of python compare to Rockets and to the IBM Open Enterprise SDK? Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 11:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question So here's a curious question. Are IBM Open Enterprise SDK for Python and the Python from Rocket Software basically the same, or no? Frank From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Peter Sylvester Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 11:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question Yes, from the IBM pax installation. And a bit of pipifax. :-) Python 3.12.0 (heads/pyz_dev-3.12:ef647e3673, Oct 31 2023, 19:02:59) [Clang 14.0.0 (build 1465bdb)] on zos On 06/02/2024 19:47, Ed Jaffe wrote: > Yes. > > : >python > Python 3.11.4 (heads/pyz_dev-3.11.ziip:39640ccf4b, Jul 15 2023, > 05:46:13) [Clang 14.0.0 ] on zos Type "help", "copyright", "credits" > or "license" for more information > >>> > > On 2/6/2024 10:15 AM, Steve Beaver wrote: >> Does anyone have Python installed in your shop? >> >> >> Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF PS Command column
You will need to issue the `ps -ef` command while using sudo, or su, to see all the processes and then the command field will be full. You can do that using bpxwunix from within a rexx exec. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Perryman Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 13:53:54 -0600, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >Perhaps someone who knows the internals could help out here. It's unlikely someone here will know the internals to PS command in SDSF because it's designed for those who avoid UNIX. 40 bytes for a UNIX command can be very small when it can be up to 512 bytes. Since "/" did not get you the full line command, try the "D" line command. If that doesn't work, REXX exec can be run from the command line. Maybe someone has a REXX that extracts the information that you want. Maybe a D OMVS command gives you the information that you want. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF PS Command column
Perhaps someone who knows the internals could help out here. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 1:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column This both works and does not work. It expands the column, but, for this column at least, only pads past 40 with spaces. Perhaps the full command is stored only as 40 characters. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 12:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column In the menu bar click View then Arrange and then find Command in the popup table and change the width. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column Sorry, I am not trying to type a command. Rather I am looking at the "Command" column, and it is 40 characters in size. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ituriel do Neto <03427ec2837d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column Hi, If you type "/", a panel will pop up with more space to type commands Best Regards Ituriel do Nascimento Neto z/OS System Programmer Em sexta-feira, 2 de fevereiro de 2024 às 16:30:56 BRT, Frank Swarbrick escreveu: Is there any way to get more than the first 40 characters of the associated command line for a job in the PS screen? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF PS Command column
In the menu bar click View then Arrange and then find Command in the popup table and change the width. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column Sorry, I am not trying to type a command. Rather I am looking at the "Command" column, and it is 40 characters in size. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ituriel do Neto <03427ec2837d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF PS Command column Hi, If you type "/", a panel will pop up with more space to type commands Best Regards Ituriel do Nascimento Neto z/OS System Programmer Em sexta-feira, 2 de fevereiro de 2024 às 16:30:56 BRT, Frank Swarbrick escreveu: Is there any way to get more than the first 40 characters of the associated command line for a job in the PS screen? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ISPF edit - clone a column
There are a number of ispf edit macros on the CBTTape and mention working with columns. I haven't tried them but I did find them using the CBTView dialog by searching for column and then edit. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 9:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ISPF edit - clone a column Sometimes I need clone text column. For larger files I use DFSORT or IEBGENER utility, however maybe I'm missing some quick & simple to use facility of ISPF Editor? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1
This would work great if IBM hadn't also changed some control block offsets ☹ Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Oujesky Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2024 5:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1 In LMAC CSECT, offset BD4 is '5.8' and BD7 is '7.9'. Code segment at 152 does the checking. Michael At 08:37 AM 1/30/2024, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >After looking into it the code is in a load module that appears to have >been written in PL/X. There are no visible constants for either >5.8 or 7.9 that could be zapped. > >CBTtape file 961 by Yves Colliard is an excellent replacement with many >build in edit line commands. It isn't the same as LMAC as it isn't >dynamic but it would be worth investigating. > >Lionel B. Dyck <>< >Github: https://github.com/lbdyck > >"Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is >what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - - - John Wooden > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On >Behalf Of Schmitt, Michael >Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 1:19 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1 > >ISPF has 3 variables that an application can interrogate for the >version: ZOS90RL, ZISPFOS, and ZENVIR. The fact that the edit says the >ISPF version must be between 5.8 and 7.9 makes me suspect it is using >ZENVIR. > >What is in the ISPF ZENVIR variable on your z/OS 3.1 system? For >example, on a z/OS 2.4 system it is 'ISPF 7.4MVS TSO'. > > >I'm wondering if the high release is a real requirement. You might try >zapping the program to change or bypass the edit, so that it can run, >and see what happens. > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On >Behalf Of Billy Ashton >Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 12:36 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1 > >Hello, we just turned on z/OS 3.1, and its component ISPF 3.1 here. > >Now, I just saw when editing a member that my LMAC program (from Doug >Nadel originally) no longer works, and gives me a message: >LMAC005 You must be running an ISPF version greater than 5.8 and less >than 7.9 to run LMAC. > >How should I deal with this? A quick look on the web indicated that I >should use the utility function to define each line command to a macro. >I currently have 85 macros in my single Rexx driver, and cannot imagine >splitting this and going through that. > >Do I have any way to drive my single macro program like I had before >with LMAC? > >Thank you and best regards, >Billy Ashton > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ISPF Line Command Table (was LMAC)
Hank - great point. This is great but the LMAC tool was dynamic and didn't require exiting Edit/View to return to pick up the new table. Cheers Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hank Oerlemans Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2024 8:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF Line Command Table (was LMAC) Clearly missing the point but what's the difference between your idea and https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=316-line-command-table-support ? Hank -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Greg Dyck
Sad news - prayers for his family during this time of loss. I had the pleasure of meeting him a few times over the years at SHARE conferences and was always impressed with his knowledge and willingness to share with others. Just to clarify: We were not related, as some people thought due to our last names, and we pronounced our last names differently. His passing is a loss to the mainframe community. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2024 8:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Greg Dyck It is with great sadness that I have to report the sudden passing of Greg Dyck. Greg has been working at Rocket Software for the last 8 years or so, but most of you will know him from decades spent working on the deep internals within both z/OS and DB2. A brilliant developer and software architect, he will leave his fingerprints on many core components and also in the memories of the countless people who benefited from his kindness and willingness to help. I came across Greg in the 1990s on IBM-Main and was amazed at the level with which he was prepared to educate and help the posters on the forum. I finally met him in person when he worked at Rocket and could actually shake his hand and thank him for everything he taught me over the years from reading his posts. I know that generations of mainframers have benefitted from his assistance and that he helped make everyone he came across a better programmer. He will be greatly missed. Rob Scott Principal Architect, Mainframe Systems Tools Distinguished Engineer Rocket Software 77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA Tel: +1.781.684.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com<mailto:rsc...@rs.com> Web: www.rocketsoftware.com<http://www.rocketsoftware.com/> Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ? 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA 02451 ? Main Office Toll Free Number: +1 855.577.4323 Contact Customer Support: https://my.rocketsoftware.com/RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport Unsubscribe from Marketing Messages/Manage Your Subscription Preferences - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/manage-your-email-preferences Privacy Policy - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy This communication and any attachments may contain confidential information of Rocket Software, Inc. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Rocket Software immediately and destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
ISPF Line Command Table (was LMAC)
With LMAC being unsupported and now no longer usable with z/OS 3.1 we need the ability to dynamically define line commands, either via a line command table or individual line commands. To that end Ive created this IBM Idea (formerly known as RFE) https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3974 --- ISPF: Provide a way to dynamically define a line command table With the demise of LMAC due to lack of support there needs to be a way to dynamically define an ISPF Edit/View line command table for the life of the Edit/View session. This would over-ride the global_line_command_table from the ispf config. Alternately provide a way to dynamically define line commands for the life of the Edit/View session much like one is able to do with Edit Macro Define. --- Please consider voting and/or add your comments. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [ISPF-L] Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1
It was written by Doug Nadel while he was working at IBM so it was definitely the IBM PL/X. My guess is that the code dynamically creates the ISPF line command table and then hooks it in dynamically using control blocks, or ???, that Doug knew as he was in ISPF development. Unfortunately that interface has not been exposed for the rest of us. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: 'Paul Gilmartin' via ISPF discussion list Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2024 9:46 AM To: ispf-l-l...@nd.edu Subject: Re: [ISPF-L] Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1 On 1/29/24 23:16:53, Pedro Vera wrote: > If I had this problem, I would browse the load module and search for '5.8' > and use AMASPZAP to modify the text to an acceptable value. > . Bypass a validity check!? The authors may have had a reason to code that. But it may have been only that they were unable to test at a higher level. > Likewise, I might use the dis-assembler that is part of Hi-Level assembler > and look at the source that it produces. And fix that source. > . PL/X? Was this an IBM product? Or a licensed vendor? > On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 1:17:28 PM UTC-8 mark wrote: > > Bummer! Line macro support works but it was missing one thing at the > time. I don’t even recall for sure, maybe it was GLOBAL_LINE_COMMAND_TABLE > which I see now. I also recall opening a requirement for whatever it was. I > still use LMAC, but some of my sandbox LPARs are using a line macro called > LINEMAC and I also supply the table – LINETBL in XMI format on my web site > and CBT file 434. -- gil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISPF discussion list" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ispf-l-list+unsubscr...@nd.edu. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/nd.edu/d/msgid/ispf-l-list/7e4965bc-543f-4e06-91fb-433e3a3f4930%40AIM.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1
After looking into it the code is in a load module that appears to have been written in PL/X. There are no visible constants for either 5.8 or 7.9 that could be zapped. CBTtape file 961 by Yves Colliard is an excellent replacement with many build in edit line commands. It isn't the same as LMAC as it isn't dynamic but it would be worth investigating. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Schmitt, Michael Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 1:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1 ISPF has 3 variables that an application can interrogate for the version: ZOS90RL, ZISPFOS, and ZENVIR. The fact that the edit says the ISPF version must be between 5.8 and 7.9 makes me suspect it is using ZENVIR. What is in the ISPF ZENVIR variable on your z/OS 3.1 system? For example, on a z/OS 2.4 system it is 'ISPF 7.4MVS TSO'. I'm wondering if the high release is a real requirement. You might try zapping the program to change or bypass the edit, so that it can run, and see what happens. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Billy Ashton Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 12:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1 Hello, we just turned on z/OS 3.1, and its component ISPF 3.1 here. Now, I just saw when editing a member that my LMAC program (from Doug Nadel originally) no longer works, and gives me a message: LMAC005 You must be running an ISPF version greater than 5.8 and less than 7.9 to run LMAC. How should I deal with this? A quick look on the web indicated that I should use the utility function to define each line command to a macro. I currently have 85 macros in my single Rexx driver, and cannot imagine splitting this and going through that. Do I have any way to drive my single macro program like I had before with LMAC? Thank you and best regards, Billy Ashton -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [ISPF-L] Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1
I cross posted this to https://discord.com/channels/880322471608344597/1201602121225752746 on the System Z Enthusiasts discord. Have you looked at CBTTape Fole 961 for Yves Colliard’s YCLMAC - A collection of user line commands for use in ISPF Edit and View ? Hope this helps – unfortunately as you probably have discovered, the LMAC routine is a load module with no source available. If you do find a solution please share as I’m sure a LOT of others will have the same challenge. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: <https://github.com/lbdyck> https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden From: ispf-l-l...@nd.edu On Behalf Of Billy Ashton Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 12:36 PM To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List ; isp...@listserv.nd.edu Subject: [ISPF-L] Replacement for LMAC program in ISPF 3.1 Hello, we just turned on z/OS 3.1, and its component ISPF 3.1 here. Now, I just saw when editing a member that my LMAC program (from Doug Nadel originally) no longer works, and gives me a message: LMAC005 You must be running an ISPF version greater than 5.8 and less than 7.9 to run LMAC. How should I deal with this? A quick look on the web indicated that I should use the utility function to define each line command to a macro. I currently have 85 macros in my single Rexx driver, and cannot imagine splitting this and going through that. Do I have any way to drive my single macro program like I had before with LMAC? Thank you and best regards, Billy Ashton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ISPF discussion list" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ispf-l-list+unsubscr...@nd.edu <mailto:ispf-l-list+unsubscr...@nd.edu> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/nd.edu/d/msgid/ispf-l-list/em8ed84d04-ba7a-44bf-84e0-62134d3dcc8b%40dbe89808.com <https://groups.google.com/a/nd.edu/d/msgid/ispf-l-list/em8ed84d04-ba7a-44bf-84e0-62134d3dcc8b%40dbe89808.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Custom ISPF command
I have an exec that I defined in the ISPF ZSTART variable that dynamically adds my personal fast path commands to the ispf commands table each time ISPF starts - no need to restart for them to be available. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 7:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Custom ISPF command "Obviously, you still need to restart ISPF to enable the new commands." It isn't obvious to me. For another example of modifying the command table dynamically, see Gilbert Saint-Fluor's FASTPATH command on the CBT tape. I use it regularly. Issuing the FASTPATH command within ISPF adds some commands to the command table and they are immediately usable. -- Tom Marchant On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:03:30 +, Robert Prins wrote: >Here's the free-of-any errorchecking, I've only ever used it myself, >small exec to update command tables using the standard ISPF dialog. >Obviously, you still need to restart ISPF to enable the new commands. >And of course saving them, like I do, in my private EXEC library could be >omitted. > >Enjoy > >/* REXX exec to update my command tables */ >/*** trace ?r * \| * >* (C) Copyright Robert AH Prins, 2009-2010 * >*** >* >* -- * >* | Date | By | Remarks | * >* |+--+--| * >* || | | * >* |+--+--| * >* | 2010-05-13 | RAHP | Use ISPTABL, not ISPPROF | * >* |+--+--| * >* | 2009-04-16 | RAHP | Now RAHP- and HERECMDS | * >* |+--+--| * >* | 2009-04-08 | RAHP | Initial version | * >* |+--+--| >* > >* UCMDS is a REXX exec to update my site-independent (RAHPCMDS) and* >* site-specific (HERECMDS) tables. Because it is not possible to * >* update an open ISPF command table, this exec copies it to CMDS, * >* invokes ISPUCM (the command table update program) with a parameter * >* of and then copies the updated table back to USERCMDS. Note * >* that is necessary to restart ISPF to enable any new commands.* >* * >* Copies of the new command tables are saved to my exec library. * >* * >* Note:* >* * >* *"GETVAR" is my routine that retrieves site-dependent information,** >* *such as the names of my datasets allocated to ISPF etc.* * > >* Send questions, suggestions and/or bug reports to: * >* * >* rob...@prino.org / robert.ah.pr...@gmail.com * >* * >* Robert AH Prins * >* Ozkiniu gatve 48 * >* Vilnius 08405* >* Lithuania* > >* This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or* >* modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as * >* published by the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of * >* the License, or (at your option) any later version. * >* * >* This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, * >* but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of * >* MERCHANTABILITY or FITNES
Re: Custom ISPF command
Create a site ISPF command table and add your commands to that. See ISPF 3.9 and it will show you the defined ISPF command tables. There is one for each application (i.e. ISR), and then up to 3 user tables, 3 site tables, and one system table (ISP). You define the command table names (prefixes) using TSO ISPCCONF to update the ISPF configuration table which is a load module for your linklist or steplib or ispllib. Hope this helps point you in the right direction. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 9:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Custom ISPF command (It is better to ask than to stay uninformed) I have created few simple REXX scripts for other folks. Such script is located in SYSEXEC concatenation, so it can be issued using TSO SCRIPT1 or TSO SCRIPT2 PARM Recently I was asked to "make it ISPF native" - mean no TSO prefix in the command. I believe it is feasible, but... how to do it? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Opinion
I use two 34" curved monitors side by side Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Hitefield Sent: Monday, January 15, 2024 11:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Opinion Steve, I have not used that specific monitor, but I do use a curved monitor. Love it! For me, much better than a flat monitor. I was hooked after I tried the first one (a Samsung). Bill Hitefield > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Steve Beaver > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2024 12:33 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Opinion > > Does anyone have an opinion on > > > > LG - 49" IPS LED Curved UltraWide Dual QHD 144Hz FreeSync and G-SYNC > Compatible Monitor with HDR (HDMI, DisplayPort, USB) - Black > > > > > > Steve Beaver > > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications
With Vendor support like that . . . . . Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Regan Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 1:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications To restate. In our case, ChangeMan ZFS is functioning as an SMTP client, so we want to change it to use CSSMTP as the SMTP client by having the created email go out to the spool as SYSOUT, but we need to know how to configure ChangeMan so that it knows what the external writer name will be for CSSMTP, i.e., CSSMTP would be the writer name of choice for us. Anyway, the vendor has not been of any help and suggested posting the question to their community board, which I have. So far, no response. Regards, Mark Regan, K8MTR General, EN80tg CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991), RUENAAA/CNO WASHINGTON DC//OP-009QCP (CNO SPINTCOMM, 1976-1979) Nationwide Insurance, Retired (1986-2017), z/OS Network Infrastructure Engineering Consultant Email: marktre...@gmail.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-t-regan On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 11:25 AM Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > From a practical standpoint the transition from SMTP to CSSMTP was > trivial for those applications that I'm aware of, For XMITIP it just > required a change to the output writer name from SMTP to CSSMTP. > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Github: https://github.com/lbdyck > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what > you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 10:22 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications > > The devil is in the details. The output writers SMTP and CSSMTP have > documented differences. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > ____ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on > behalf of Lionel B. Dyck > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 10:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications > > If changeman supported SMTP then it should support CSSMTP as well - > the easy way to do it is by writing the e-mail to a sysout class that > CSSMTP will pick up and process. > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Github: https://github.com/lbdyck > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what > you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Steve Beaver > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 9:53 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications > > I would suggest you avail yourself of Serena's help. > > I've setup CSSMTP but it was for internal use only > > > Regards, > > > Steve > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Steve Beaver > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:41 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications > > My first question to you is your Changeman current on it maintenance? > > > > Steve > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Mark Regan > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:34 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications > > What must you change in ChangeMan ZFS to get it to use CSSMTP to send > out its email notifications? I know about the sample skeleton > CNM$$ENT, which mentions using sample ENOTIFY2, but it lacks details > about how to use it with CSSMTP. > > Regards, > > Mark Regan, K8MTR General, EN80tg > CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991), > RUENAAA/CNO WASHINGTON DC//OP-009QCP (CNO SPINTCOMM, 1976-1979) > Nationwide Insurance, Retired (1986-2017), z/OS Network Infrastructure > Engineering Consultant > Email: marktre...@gmail.com > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-t-regan > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe
Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications
>From a practical standpoint the transition from SMTP to CSSMTP was trivial for >those applications that I'm aware of, For XMITIP it just required a change to >the output writer name from SMTP to CSSMTP. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications The devil is in the details. The output writers SMTP and CSSMTP have documented differences. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 10:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications If changeman supported SMTP then it should support CSSMTP as well - the easy way to do it is by writing the e-mail to a sysout class that CSSMTP will pick up and process. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications I would suggest you avail yourself of Serena's help. I've setup CSSMTP but it was for internal use only Regards, Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications My first question to you is your Changeman current on it maintenance? Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Regan Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications What must you change in ChangeMan ZFS to get it to use CSSMTP to send out its email notifications? I know about the sample skeleton CNM$$ENT, which mentions using sample ENOTIFY2, but it lacks details about how to use it with CSSMTP. Regards, Mark Regan, K8MTR General, EN80tg CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991), RUENAAA/CNO WASHINGTON DC//OP-009QCP (CNO SPINTCOMM, 1976-1979) Nationwide Insurance, Retired (1986-2017), z/OS Network Infrastructure Engineering Consultant Email: marktre...@gmail.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-t-regan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications
If changeman supported SMTP then it should support CSSMTP as well - the easy way to do it is by writing the e-mail to a sysout class that CSSMTP will pick up and process. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications I would suggest you avail yourself of Serena's help. I've setup CSSMTP but it was for internal use only Regards, Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications My first question to you is your Changeman current on it maintenance? Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Regan Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ChangeMan ZFS and CSSMTP to send email notifications What must you change in ChangeMan ZFS to get it to use CSSMTP to send out its email notifications? I know about the sample skeleton CNM$$ENT, which mentions using sample ENOTIFY2, but it lacks details about how to use it with CSSMTP. Regards, Mark Regan, K8MTR General, EN80tg CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991), RUENAAA/CNO WASHINGTON DC//OP-009QCP (CNO SPINTCOMM, 1976-1979) Nationwide Insurance, Retired (1986-2017), z/OS Network Infrastructure Engineering Consultant Email: marktre...@gmail.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-t-regan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: NFS Export of Data Set File System
Not to argue - they should have a User's Guide but they don't. The key with dsfs is that once you understand the /dsfs/type (txt/bin/rec/sysout) that is it no different than using any other file in a filesystem. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 10:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NFS Export of Data Set File System On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 09:12:29 -0600, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >There is no users guide ... > Has IBM not noticed the lack? >... but there is an admin guide at > https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=administration-dsfs-guide > That's for admins. But if there are differences between DSFS and a POSIX filesystem they should be described in a User's Guide. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: NFS Export of Data Set File System
There is no users guide but there is an admin guide at https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=administration-dsfs-guide Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 9:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NFS Export of Data Set File System On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:37:22 +, Mark Jacobs wrote: >Can /dsfs and the directories under it be NFS exported such that Windows/Linux >clients can connect to it and then directly read/write z/OS datasets? > What are you looking for beyond: <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=introduction-zos-conventional-mvs-data-sets> Where's the DSFS User's Guide, which ought to treat such topics? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX
Paul is spot on - and you can use BPXWDYN to concatenate as well. See examples here https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=output-examples-calling-bpxwdyn-from-rexx-program Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 9:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 14:47:29 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I need to check whether any of a list of datasets exists and whether any of a >list of ddnames is allocated. I'd rather not trap and parse the output of >LISTALC and LISTCAT, and I'd rather not call LISTDSI for each one. Is there a >simple way to do that in REXX, or would it be better to write a small service >routine in assembler? > How useful would BPXWDYN(INFO ,,,) be? <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=output-requesting-allocation-information> -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX
That works well for checking the catalog status *but* not the allocation status. For that you'll need to trap LISTALC or write your own. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX Of course' how did I forget that :-( Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of kekronbekron <02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 9:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX There's a catalog search interface (CSI), and I think there's a sample REXX for using it in SAMPLIB. On Friday, December 29th, 2023 at 20:17, Seymour J Metz wrote: > I need to check whether any of a list of datasets exists and whether any of a > list of ddnames is allocated. I'd rather not trap and parse the output of > LISTALC and LISTCAT, and I'd rather not call LISTDSI for each one. Is there a > simple way to do that in REXX, or would it be better to write a small service > routine in assembler? > > I don't have a requirement to handle XTIOT. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: What is the PDS command?
This is a great, albeit a bit dated, overview of the PDS command - aka the Swiss Army Knife of Utilities. There have been many updates, including support for PDSE data sets, but this should give everyone a great overview. https://share.confex.com/share/115/webprogram/Handout/Session7417/zOS%20Basics%20Freeware%20-%20PDS%20The%20Swiss%20Army%20Knife%20of%20Utilities%20-%20Hands-On%20Lab.pdf Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is the PDS command? Possibly the only file on the CBT that has its own web page, and it certainly deserves it. I can't imagine working without it. Thanks to John Kalinich and all those who came before. On 12/27/2023 2:05 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: > https://www.cbttape.org/freepds.htm > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 3:58 AM Edward Gould < > 04bcc43af339-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >> HI Roger, >> The PDS command as I remember it from 40 years ago did a lot more >> than ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dataset File System
It works fine Lionel B. Dyck < Website: GitHub.com/lbdyck Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden > On Dec 23, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Frank Swarbrick > wrote: > > Has anyone used sftp or scp to access an MVS dataset through DSFS? > I can't see any reason it wouldn't work. > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > Lionel B Dyck > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 4:40 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Dataset File System > > I’ve experimented with it and found it has great potential. I also wrote > this > https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck2/2023/10/20/data-set-file-system-aka-dsfs-simplified-administr > > Lionel B. Dyck < > Website: GitHub.com/lbdyck > Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro > > Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you > are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden > >> On Dec 22, 2023, at 5:37 PM, Frank Swarbrick >> wrote: >> >> Has anyone made use of DSFS yet? How do you like it? Are there any >> caveats or other weirdness? >> Frank >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dataset File System
I looked and could not find an IBM Idea to address the DFSMShsm migration issues with DSFS so I created on: https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3936 Please vote and add your comments. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dataset File System On 12/22/2023 3:37 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: > Has anyone made use of DSFS yet? How do you like it? Are there any caveats > or other weirdness? I really like DSFS, but it has one major failing: migrated data sets. If a data set is migrated, it becomes 100% invisible to DSFS. If you can't see it, you can't even initiate a recall. Therefore, if you wish to grep through a directory or something like that, you must first prepare the environment by recalling everything. That's inconvenient. I realize migrate/recall is somewhat "old fashioned" but we still do it and I suspect others do as well. -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dataset File System
IBM does provide a z/OS Data Set File System Administration and a z/OS Data Set File System Messages and Codes. There is no Users Guide because there is no real need once one understands how it works. DSDS, in a nutshell, is a root mount point from which the OMVS shell users access z/OS datasets as if they were just another file. There a nuances for text, record format, binary, and spool files that the users need to understand. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 7:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dataset File System On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 17:40:43 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >I’ve experimented with it and found it has great potential. I also >wrote this >https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel >-dyck2/2023/10/20/data-set-file-system-aka-dsfs-simplified-administr > Which begins: BM introduced the Data Set File System (DSFS) with z/OS 2.5 as an option for shell users of z/OS to easily access z/OS datasets using traditional shell services. Where's the User's Guide? If, as I believe, interaction of traditional shell services with DSFS differs significantly from interaction with z/FS, the difference should be documented in a User's Guide. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dataset File System
I’ve experimented with it and found it has great potential. I also wrote this https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck2/2023/10/20/data-set-file-system-aka-dsfs-simplified-administr Lionel B. Dyck < Website: GitHub.com/lbdyck Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden > On Dec 22, 2023, at 5:37 PM, Frank Swarbrick > wrote: > > Has anyone made use of DSFS yet? How do you like it? Are there any caveats > or other weirdness? > Frank > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Rexx to clone users in RACF
You can always try the open-source REXXADM ISPF dialog found at www.cbttape.org (check the updates page for the most recent) or at https://github.com/lbdyck/racfadm (I host it but I didn't write it - just contributed to it) Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 6:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Rexx to clone users in RACF If you do not have a product, use RACF unload utility and look for all records associated with the source user and generate racf commands to copy the user. The records are described in racf macros and interfaces guide. ITschak בתאריך יום ו׳, 17 בנוב׳ 2023 ב-14:44 מאת Steve Beaver < 050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>: > You only have 3 choices. zSecure or VRA Or write your own utility > > Sent from my iPhone > > No one said I could type with one thumb > > > On Nov 16, 2023, at 23:08, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > > > > *Doesn't the RACF ISPF interface have the ability to close a user?* > > > > No, Consul RACF which became z/Secure has that capability. As > > Radowslaw says, set up a template or use an ISPF file tailoring > > skeleton with a set of templates and generate from a panel. > > > > > >> On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 1:55 PM Jon Perryman > wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 08:04:47 +0400, Peter > wrote: > >>> > >>> I am looking for a rexx logic which can multiple RACFID based on > >>> one > >> model user ? > >> > >> Doesn't the RACF ISPF interface have the ability to close a user? > >> > >> --- > >> --- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > >> IBM-MAIN > >> > > > > > > -- > > Wayne V. Bickerdike > > > > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations
With the z/OS Open Tools you don't need to use zopen, or any front-end, to install any of their ports. For example, here is a direct link to the curl port https://github.com/ZOSOpenTools/curlport Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 5:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations I find having to have an entire front-end to install something that can just be expanded with a tar or pax command way overkill. Dave Jousma Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of David Crayford Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 6:21:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations > On 3 Nov 2023, at 1: 59 am, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > > You can get another port of curl from https: //urldefense. > com/v3/__https: //zosopentools. github. > io/meta/*/__;Iw!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZ > o3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf2nWnRsA$ > On 3 Nov 2023, at 1:59 am, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > You can get another port of curl from > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://zosopentools.github.io/meta/*/__;I > w!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-Y > cuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf2nWnRsA$ > and it is very simple - much easier (imho) than using miniconda. If he’s got problems going through a proxy couldn't the same kind of problems occur using zopen and GitHub with Github tokens? I don’t find using zopen to be easier to use then conda. It’s certainly nowhere near as powerful, for example, virtual environments. I like zopen but I find having to source .env files a PITA and slow when configured in profile scripts. Using conda is just like using homebrew on my Mac. Hat’s off the z/OS Open Tools devs for getting something working well enough with only shell scripts. > > We also discuss things related to the z/OS Open Tools here > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://discord.com/channels/8803224716083 > 44597/1118254421202182185__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf3e-1v2I$ > and you're welcome to join us. > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Website: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lbdsoftware.com__;!!MwwqYLOC6b > 6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqb > EMfgyiqFe5WlfHGqYwrU$ > Github: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/lbdyck__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6w > hF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEM > fgyiqFe5Wlfg7_GH4U$ > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you > are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Jousma, David > Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 12:54 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Rocket miniconda frustrations > > All, > > I have a simple need to make cURL available in my environment. I > downloaded, and installed MiniConda from the Rocket open source webpage. > We are behind a proxy, and am having all sorts of problems trying to > get that to work. > > Does anyone know of a way to download the needed “repository” that > miniconda uses, and do a disconnected install? > > Dave Jousma > > > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may > be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If > you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or > disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, > any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this > information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by > informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, > please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this > error is appreciated. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email t
Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations
You can get another port of curl from https://zosopentools.github.io/meta/#/ and it is very simple - much easier (imho) than using miniconda. We also discuss things related to the z/OS Open Tools here https://discord.com/channels/880322471608344597/1118254421202182185 and you're welcome to join us. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 12:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Rocket miniconda frustrations All, I have a simple need to make cURL available in my environment. I downloaded, and installed MiniConda from the Rocket open source webpage. We are behind a proxy, and am having all sorts of problems trying to get that to work. Does anyone know of a way to download the needed repository that miniconda uses, and do a disconnected install? Dave Jousma This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Extracting SMP/e details
Check out File 778 or File 941 on www.cbttape.org as it may have the basics for what you want Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 9:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extracting SMP/e details The standard solution is gimapi. We developed an assembler program since we failed to use rexx. However, you can list the csi and process the output ITschak בתאריך יום ה׳, 19 באוק׳ 2023 ב-17:33 מאת Lizette Koehler < stars...@mindspring.com>: > I need a simple process to get the following out of SMP/e > > PTF. Fmid. Date received. Date applied > > I am thinking of writing a Rexx or icetool to read a listing to > produce the one liners > > Just wanted to check here to see if there was a better way > > I have not found much on cbttape > > From time to time I need to show when fixes went in. So this just > needs to be a simple report > > Thanks > > Sent from EarthLink Mobile mail > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: System Z Enthusiasts discord (yes - Z folks do use discord)
Along with Nitro, users can 'boost' a Discord server with a monthly subscription but that is not required. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jay Maynard Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 8:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: System Z Enthusiasts discord (yes - Z folks do use discord) As I understand it, Discord has a corporate version. They also get funding from users' Nitro subscriptions. On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 8:00 AM Rick Troth wrote: > On 10/11/23 12:55, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > There is an online community for all System Z Enthusiasts on discord > that is > > growing. There are discussions ranging from the z/OS Open Tools to > Hercules > > to CBTape tools to Stack Overflow questions on Z to nearly anything > > and everything related to Z. > > > > Check it out at: https://discord.gg/3PKgUayuSV > > > Second this. > > If you wish, you can think of it as a VMSHARE work-alike. It's an > "online conference". > > Thanks Lionel for inviting us. Thanks Steven for setting it up. > > > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > > Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com > > Github: https://github.com/lbdyck > > > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is > > what > you > > are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden > > > I should also qualify this endorsement. There are two concerns, and > maybe they can be addressed in the near future. > First is supporting the forum. When you look at massively popular > platforms like Twitter and Facebook, you see their demise. How is > Discord funded? We should keep in mind that we likely will have to > step-up to some sort of support down the road. > LISTSERV gets by on the generosity of academic institutions (in this > case the University of Alabama, "Roll Tide!"). But even these > sometimes have to trim their budgets. > > Secondly, and this is personal, I much prefer interaction via email. > Would love to see platforms like Discord support that mode of > communication. Two very important "circles" in my own life use FB > Messenger, which is horribly captive. (But the others don't get it, > not being techie; they don't see the entrapment.) If someone happens > to know of a plug-in or a mod (in this case, to Discord) enabling > email please do share. The problems with email are historical (the > original design) and a tragedy of the commons (the unpoliced shared > space will be marred by the nere do wells). > > > -- R; <>< > > > > > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Jay Maynard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
z/OS root filesystem
I just learned about these SAMPLIB members - and found a few of my associates who also were unaware. Sharing: - SYS1.SAMPLIB(BPXMKDIR) - for root file system (version root) - SYS1.SAMPLIB(BPXISYS1) - for sysplex root Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
DSFS IBM Idea
Please consider voting for this idea to have DSFS createparm support masking: https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3869 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting
It's a full filesystem so /etc wouldn't be appropriate and that would add an extra 'qualifier' on the path for the users. Instead of entering /dsfs/txt/hlq/file it would have to be /etc/dsfs/txt/hlq/file. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 1:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 13:31:22 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >The mount point for dsfs must be /dsfs in the root and if the root filesystem >is replaced there isn't much the site can do but be aware of it in the new >filesystem. > I paid too much attention to "won't be lost" and too little to "please deliver ". Regardless, IBM service shouldn't obliterate site-peculiar additions to '/', especially when one is required by an IBM product. That should be APAR-able, not merely an Idea. Or, the required mount point shoulc be changed to /etc/dsfs. >-Original Message- >From: Of Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 1:18 PM >> >With the default SMP/E root filesystem please deliver it with a /dsfs >mount point so that it is there and won't be lost with maintenance. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting
The mount point for dsfs must be /dsfs in the root and if the root filesystem is replaced there isn't much the site can do but be aware of it in the new filesystem. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 1:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:56:47 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >Please review, and vote, for this idea to add the /dsfs as a default >mount point on the IBM z/OS distributions. >https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I- >3868 > Where I read: In the default z/OS distribution predefine empty mount point /dsfs With the default SMP/E root filesystem please deliver it with a /dsfs mount point so that it is there and won't be lost with maintenance. Underreaching. A better requirement would simply be: Don't lose site-defined mount points with maintenance. Doesn't IBM take pains not to regress site changes in /etc? Would /etc/dsfs be a durable mount point; no Idea needed? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting
Please review, and vote, for this idea to add the /dsfs as a default mount point on the IBM z/OS distributions. https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3868 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation
Shmuel - this appears to be an issue unique to Edge and one that Microsoft will have to address. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 10:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation Have you gotten index.html to work with edge? Specifically, it seems to "download" the PDF instead of opening a new tab. Changing target=_blank to target=_new didn't help. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tom Brennan Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 3:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation Well, I said "today" but it's now 8 minutes after midnight so I missed it by that much. The IBM index file was changed again so my old code needed to be pretty-much redone. It seems to work ok for me, creating directories and shortcuts. It also creates a new file index.html which is a simpler version of the ibm browser index, with links on the titles so you don't have to tediously move the mouse over to the right to select something. If anybody is interested see this page on the server under my desk: https://secure-web.cisco.com/1viklOGAw9OqNB2SkOE2E_expAQAttX-vsXqku-YeNBBprd wRJVOP-1Ia44YaEkD51KHejjQIJlf-lgX8rOjf-zjwymUUTMvoJCN75kF96pQX33u6iyQiSix1gD YwWMLUUNVNbCs0WwGyJL0UCOfxvcdZicnparUusSBIB1YAI7VfP-EbZkZUgrbyVu3pMT5Z57_y8q pp18jHeoEQ4fYAtsIDUmv-SvQFjiFmwGNTwjN6W1Cld3yj0EwwwWh1ym0XHUa7jGxSHHigczTNH8 jTvGu9Ed1U17_lN8KH8vJF1oIeDoZYJYyW3t1g93xK7_wF_DCJLzC8FrBqKr8SWIef7FBa-mUpQk HLWg52pkoBEHk9uISvY87FqQY3mWZhNqOd173hzlUDGyZ_yA9cdpCHBlVR7KEo4g9iy56mdTGh8h AztzX3ICo4R1JRnvH5tcx7/https%3A%2F%2Fblog.mildredbrennan.com%2F%3Fp%3D797 On 10/10/2023 9:46 PM, Brian Westerman wrote: > Tom, > > Do you still have the PC script that builds the nice directory with the manual names? > > Brian > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation
I use Chrome as my browser on Windows but thought I'd try Edge (something I haven't tried for months). I opened the index html (read me 1st) and clicked on a link for a pub and it did 'download' the pub even though is it local. Seems like an issue with Edge but not sure how to fix it - just confirming. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 10:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation Have you gotten index.html to work with edge? Specifically, it seems to "download" the PDF instead of opening a new tab. Changing target=_blank to target=_new didn't help. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tom Brennan Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 3:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation Well, I said "today" but it's now 8 minutes after midnight so I missed it by that much. The IBM index file was changed again so my old code needed to be pretty-much redone. It seems to work ok for me, creating directories and shortcuts. It also creates a new file index.html which is a simpler version of the ibm browser index, with links on the titles so you don't have to tediously move the mouse over to the right to select something. If anybody is interested see this page on the server under my desk: https://secure-web.cisco.com/1viklOGAw9OqNB2SkOE2E_expAQAttX-vsXqku-YeNBBprd wRJVOP-1Ia44YaEkD51KHejjQIJlf-lgX8rOjf-zjwymUUTMvoJCN75kF96pQX33u6iyQiSix1gD YwWMLUUNVNbCs0WwGyJL0UCOfxvcdZicnparUusSBIB1YAI7VfP-EbZkZUgrbyVu3pMT5Z57_y8q pp18jHeoEQ4fYAtsIDUmv-SvQFjiFmwGNTwjN6W1Cld3yj0EwwwWh1ym0XHUa7jGxSHHigczTNH8 jTvGu9Ed1U17_lN8KH8vJF1oIeDoZYJYyW3t1g93xK7_wF_DCJLzC8FrBqKr8SWIef7FBa-mUpQk HLWg52pkoBEHk9uISvY87FqQY3mWZhNqOd173hzlUDGyZ_yA9cdpCHBlVR7KEo4g9iy56mdTGh8h AztzX3ICo4R1JRnvH5tcx7/https%3A%2F%2Fblog.mildredbrennan.com%2F%3Fp%3D797 On 10/10/2023 9:46 PM, Brian Westerman wrote: > Tom, > > Do you still have the PC script that builds the nice directory with the manual names? > > Brian > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Israel
SVC 13 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jerome Benting Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel BLAH BLAH BLAH -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel This thread was dead until you resurrected it. Darren is a volunteer and is doing a great job keeping this Listserv alive for us and deserves our appreciation. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jerome Benting Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel Emmie . I am 100 percent with you on this. Too much vanity here.. Darren you have to act and KILL this stupid thread -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel Yes. I am glad that your brought it up. No talk about the Russian invasion was posted. There are different rules for different topics. Darrin should appoint another administrator to manage the board. He has failed to enforce the rules. On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 03:06:03 p.m. EDT, Radoslaw Skorupka <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: There are other methods to check someone's safety. One of them is to send an email to that person and NOT to THOUSAND others. BTW: the topic is not about the person, it is about country. AFAIR there was no such topic about Ukraine. We (polish people) had been receiving over 100k refugees *daily*. 100k places to sleep, meals, clothes, etc. I was the part of the community which helped and tried to organize it. However I didn't talk about it on IBM-MAIN. Not because it was something not important - just because this is a list about mainframes. P.S. I also fully support people in Israel, I am willing to help them as I can. But I won't create off-topic noise on IBM-MAIN - it won't help anyone. P.P.S. Sometimes I exchange emails with some persons from IBM-MAIN list, in many cases the topic is not related to mainframes. We do it OFF LIST just to reduce the noise. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 10.10.2023 o 19:08, Lionel B. Dyck pisze: > It is not unreasonable to be concerned about the health and safety of the > community here. > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Website:https://www.lbdsoftware.com > Github:https://github.com/lbdyck > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is > what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - > John Wooden > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of esmie moo > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 12:06 PM To:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Israel > > It is too bad that Darrin did not purge your post from the outset. Darren > please do your job as administrator and stop this thread. > Elspeth > On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:37:32 p.m. EDT, Steve > Beaver<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I started this thread to see if Benyamin Disson was ok. > > Let's stop this thread unless one of the guys in Israel gets hurt. > > Steve > > -- > -- > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of willie bunter > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 11:19 AM To:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Israel > > Yes, of course it has. The rules depend upon the "subject" being posted. > It may have nothing to do with technical information. > > On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 08:05:48 p.m. EDT, Dave > Beagle<0525eaef6620-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Have the rules been suspended? > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Monday, October 9, 2023, 4:55 PM, esmie > moo<012780d99c7b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Enough please about politics. This is a technical information board. Daren > please pull the plug on this thread. > > On Sunday, Octo
Re: Israel
This thread was dead until you resurrected it. Darren is a volunteer and is doing a great job keeping this Listserv alive for us and deserves our appreciation. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jerome Benting Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel Emmie . I am 100 percent with you on this. Too much vanity here.. Darren you have to act and KILL this stupid thread -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel Yes. I am glad that your brought it up. No talk about the Russian invasion was posted. There are different rules for different topics. Darrin should appoint another administrator to manage the board. He has failed to enforce the rules. On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 03:06:03 p.m. EDT, Radoslaw Skorupka <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: There are other methods to check someone's safety. One of them is to send an email to that person and NOT to THOUSAND others. BTW: the topic is not about the person, it is about country. AFAIR there was no such topic about Ukraine. We (polish people) had been receiving over 100k refugees *daily*. 100k places to sleep, meals, clothes, etc. I was the part of the community which helped and tried to organize it. However I didn't talk about it on IBM-MAIN. Not because it was something not important - just because this is a list about mainframes. P.S. I also fully support people in Israel, I am willing to help them as I can. But I won't create off-topic noise on IBM-MAIN - it won't help anyone. P.P.S. Sometimes I exchange emails with some persons from IBM-MAIN list, in many cases the topic is not related to mainframes. We do it OFF LIST just to reduce the noise. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 10.10.2023 o 19:08, Lionel B. Dyck pisze: > It is not unreasonable to be concerned about the health and safety of the > community here. > > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Website:https://www.lbdsoftware.com > Github:https://github.com/lbdyck > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is > what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - > John Wooden > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of esmie moo > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 12:06 PM To:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Israel > > It is too bad that Darrin did not purge your post from the outset. Darren > please do your job as administrator and stop this thread. > Elspeth > On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:37:32 p.m. EDT, Steve > Beaver<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I started this thread to see if Benyamin Disson was ok. > > Let's stop this thread unless one of the guys in Israel gets hurt. > > Steve > > -- > -- > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of willie bunter > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 11:19 AM To:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Israel > > Yes, of course it has. The rules depend upon the "subject" being posted. > It may have nothing to do with technical information. > > On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 08:05:48 p.m. EDT, Dave > Beagle<0525eaef6620-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Have the rules been suspended? > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Monday, October 9, 2023, 4:55 PM, esmie > moo<012780d99c7b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Enough please about politics. This is a technical information board. Daren > please pull the plug on this thread. > > On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:46:05 p.m. EDT, Steve > Beaver<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Has anyone heard from Benyamin in Israel since the shit storm has started? > > Sent from my iPhone > > No one said I could type with one thumb > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to
System Z Enthusiasts discord (yes - Z folks do use discord)
There is an online community for all System Z Enthusiasts on discord that is growing. There are discussions ranging from the z/OS Open Tools to Hercules to CBTape tools to Stack Overflow questions on Z to nearly anything and everything related to Z. Check it out at: https://discord.gg/3PKgUayuSV Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Israel
It is not unreasonable to be concerned about the health and safety of the community here. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel It is too bad that Darrin did not purge your post from the outset. Darren please do your job as administrator and stop this thread. Elspeth On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:37:32 p.m. EDT, Steve Beaver <050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: I started this thread to see if Benyamin Disson was ok. Let's stop this thread unless one of the guys in Israel gets hurt. Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 11:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel Yes, of course it has. The rules depend upon the "subject" being posted. It may have nothing to do with technical information. On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 08:05:48 p.m. EDT, Dave Beagle <0525eaef6620-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Have the rules been suspended? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, October 9, 2023, 4:55 PM, esmie moo <012780d99c7b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Enough please about politics. This is a technical information board. Daren please pull the plug on this thread. On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:46:05 p.m. EDT, Steve Beaver <050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Has anyone heard from Benyamin in Israel since the shit storm has started? Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Israel
Prayers for peace and safety. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Shorkend Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 7:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Israel I live near Ben Gurion/Tel Aviv airport. A few missile attacks but nothing terrible. The news coming in from the south of Israel is truly horrendous. The truth is unravelling slowly and paints a very horrific picture. On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 00:02, Seymour J Metz wrote: > I'm not, but one of my daughters is visiting her fiancee's family in > Rishon LTzion. Both I and my wife have mishpachah in Israel. I don't > know any of the victims, but every death is traumatic. > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on > behalf of August Carideo > Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 1:27 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Israel > > Is Seymour Metz there also ? > > > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on > behalf of Steve Beaver > <050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 1:20:30 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Israel > > Thank you ITschak. You keep your head and your ass down > > Sent from my iPhone > > No one said I could type with one thumb > > > On Oct 8, 2023, at 12:03, Itschak Mugzach < > 0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > No, but I afaik he lives in a safe area in Israel. > > > > ITschak > > > > בתאריך יום א׳, 8 באוק׳ 2023 ב-19:46 מאת Steve Beaver < > > 050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>: > > > >> Has anyone heard from Benyamin in Israel since the shit storm has > started? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> No one said I could type with one thumb > >> > >> --- > >> --- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > >> IBM-MAIN > >> > > > > > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO > > IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Mike Shorkend m...@shorkend.com Tel: +972524208743 <https://www.linkedin.com/in/MikeShorkend/> <https://twitter.com/mikeShorkend> -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Israel
Prayers for the peace of Jerusalem and all Israel. On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 3:35 PM Binyamin Dissen wrote: > Thanks for the concern. I live in Jerusalem. There were air raid sirens, > and I > heard some bombs, but praise G-d I am OK. > > On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 11:45:40 -0500 Steve Beaver > <050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > :>Has anyone heard from Benyamin in Israel since the shit storm has > started? > :> > :>Sent from my iPhone > :> > :>No one said I could type with one thumb > :> > :>-- > :>For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > :>send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > Binyamin Dissen > http://www.dissensoftware.com > > Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: RACF ICH408I messages
See File 417 on the www.cbttape.org site (check the https://cbttape.org/updates.htm for updates to the file) which contains the RACFADM ISPF dialog. The M option will do exactly what you are asking for. Hope this helps. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chalk, Shelia Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2023 12:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: RACF ICH408I messages Hello, Is there a report that I can run to list all the ICH408i messages within a time period? Thanks Shelia Chalk == This email, and any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this message by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation
This is what I did to get a working html and posted here https://discordapp.com/channels/880322471608344597/1157298242212597781 Since the 3.1 collection does not have the html file like the 2.5 collections (and prior) did there is a workable solution: 1. Download the 3.1 collection 2. copy from your 2.5 collection directory the 1.read_me... file and subdirectory into the 3.1 directory 3. Rename them from v2r5 o v3r1 4. Edit the htm file and change 2.5 to 3.1 and v2r5 to v3r1 5. save it and your good to go Caveats - any new products/pubs that are new to 3.1 won't be there (e.g. AI, DSFS wasn't there, and probably more). This process does not change the order number for the pubs but will fix the url for the related pdf. Ymmv but probably not by much Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2023 1:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation That's a lot of work Tom, just to find one manual. I'm thinking about taking the 2.5 .html file produced by IBM to see if I modify it for 3.1; after all many of the files will have similar names. But I'll wait a while longer to see if anything is forthcoming from IBM. Lennie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: 30 September 2023 08:41 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation Here are my notes: https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/pdx.html On 9/29/2023 9:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 22:07:33 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: > >> CA has taken to combining all their various TSS manuals into one gigantic >> PDF; no more individual manuals for installation, the admins, the CFILE, >> reporting and trouble-shooting, messages and so on, they're all just >> chapters in one PDF. I dislike it, but I don't see that I have any option >> but to get used to it. >> > The undesirable other extreme is as IBM did in splitting the Assembler > Callable Services simply by alphabetic ranges. Search, Index, and ToC become > less useful. > >> So when you said you can't select individual manuals, I thought maybe IBM >> had taken up the practice too. But no, you said "set of PDF files", so I >> guess you found them all in a single downloaded ZIP and cannot select >> individual PDFs to be downloaded without everything else? >> > The page at <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0> shows some > organization into "shelves", but not what I'm used to. I see no shelf > for Unix System Services as formerly. > > The 1GB .zip does have a .pdx. I overlooked it earlier somehow. It > organizes search results by relevance. But some may find the Adobe > Reader requirement onerous. > > But no index.htm[l]. > > And the collection expands into "zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29)/". > I'm uncomfortable with using shell metacharacters in path names. > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation
You found the problem with the download collection. See this IBM Idea (and please vote if you agree) https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3848 In summary I'm requesting that IBM add a READ_ME_FIRST_ZOS_V3R1_TOC.HTM as they had in previous z/OS download collections. It would also be VERY NICE if they made it more obvious how/where to download the full collection. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 10:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OS 3.1 documentation Having seen the announcement of z/OS 3.1 today I have tried to obtain the usual PDF collection of documentation. I found it can be downloaded in zip form here, by selecting "IBM z/OS Indexed PDF/PDX Collection". This has given me the set of pdf files. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0 However, there seems to be no way of selecting individual manuals by title, as there was at previous z/OS levels. Have I downloaded the wrong package? Or is this no longer to be available? Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Utility to Read from JES2 spool
You can also use the SDSF REXX interface to easily do this. If you have access to GitHub you can try my generalized tool that uses SDSF REXX at https://github.com/lbdyck/sdsfxdd Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Roberto Halais Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 9:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Utility to Read from JES2 spool Listers: Is there an z/os utility that will allow the reading of a spool file (in some class) and copy it to a sequential dataset? We need to read a report from spool and copy it o a sequential dataset. Just a z/os utility or a CBT tape utility. Thank you for any pointers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Bob Shannon
Thank you for sharing - prayers for his family at this time of loss. Bob was a terrific individual. Always kind, friendly, and helpful. He was very active in SHARE for many years and while working with Carl Youngren they revolutionized the SHARE session scheduling process among other things. They also expanded the MVS Technical Steering Committee to include all of the MVS group volunteers and they started the Bit Bucket Session tradition that continues to this day. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 2:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Bob Shannon It is with great sadness that I have to inform this forum that Bob Shannon passed away unexpectedly last week aged 75. Bob was the systems programming manager at Rocket Software from 2003 until his retirement in 2016. He was a real character, and anyone working at Rocket during that time will have memories of Bob that will make them smile. During his long career he was also a developer at Compuware, however many people on this list probably know Bob from his work with Share on the MVS project track. He leaves behind his wife of 50 years, Vicky, and two daughters. A knowledgeable and helpful man, he will be fondly remembered and keenly missed. Rob Scott Principal Architect, Mainframe Systems Tools Distinguished Engineer Rocket Software 77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA Tel: +1.781.684.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com<mailto:rsc...@rs.com> Web: www.rocketsoftware.com<http://www.rocketsoftware.com/> Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ? 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA 02451 ? Main Office Toll Free Number: +1 855.577.4323 Contact Customer Support: https://my.rocketsoftware.com/RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport Unsubscribe from Marketing Messages/Manage Your Subscription Preferences - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/manage-your-email-preferences Privacy Policy - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy This communication and any attachments may contain confidential information of Rocket Software, Inc. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Rocket Software immediately and destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TCP/IP to JES3
Try FTP with filetype=jes Lionel B. Dyck < Website: www.lbdsoftware.com Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden > On Sep 22, 2023, at 3:26 PM, Schmitt, Michael wrote: > > Is there a way to transfer sysout type data from a remote, non-mainframe > system, into a JES3 spool? From which already existing tasks will grab the > output according to destination, class, writer, etc. > > Such as, use some product or capability to connect and transfer to a TCP/IP > port. > > Most of what I see is going the other direction, answering the question of > "how do I get this report from the JES spool to my printer/pc/file > server/etc?" But I need to get it into JES3, because the existing report > distribution software wants to grab it from there. > > I thought I remembered being able to inject jobs into the IEFRDER via FTP, > and thought perhaps could also transfer to sysout, but don't see it in the > Communications Server manual. > > Bonus points for a solution that will also work with JES2, after the > inevitable end-of-support for JES3. > > __ > Michael Schmitt | DXC Apps Development | MassMutual > (737) 910-8248 | michael.schm...@dxc.com > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
CBTTape Online Forum
If you'd like to join an online forum to discuss all things CBT use this link to join the System Z Enthusiasts Discord server and find the 'cbttape' channel. https://discord.gg/hxRhtu8KnW Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Online Forum for discussing all things CBTTape
There is now a cbttape channel on the System Z Enthusiasts Discord server for discussing all things CBT. The link is System Z Enthusiasts https://discord.com/channels/880322471608344597/1153346108198768683 if you have already joined and https://discord.gg/hxRhtu8KnW if you haven't. This Discord channel is using the Discord forum type of channel to easily categorize discussions and keep them organized. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Error messages (a rant and an idea)
I'm not suggesting they would/should do it for z/OS messages but at least for all the shell commands since those using the shell commands come from an environment (windows/macos/linux/*nix) where messages and codes manuals are non-existent (for the most part as I'm sure some may have them). Bob - I agree that having the manuals in a folder on my desktop for easy search is just part of the job *but* for the shell commands/tools the manuals are lacking, and in the case of DSFS the messages point you to another manual for the reason codes, etc. which is a royal pain - I understand not having to duplicate information but forcing the user to go to multiple places to understand a message and resolve an issue is unwarranted and cruel. We want to encourage the younger generation to like the z/OS environment without discouraging them with hoops to fix an issue. Then again, even with the great M pubs, many shops (all should) have installed MVS/QuickRef to speed up issue resolution from messages. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Error messages (a rant and an idea) Sorry, I can't agree. Manuals are the lifeblood of any competent z/OS worker, no? And since they're available on-line, all I have to do is get a decent collection of them. Message manuals are among my first choice, always. Seems like I'm going against the current, here, but if they tried to add all the text of every message manual to every app ... nah, I can't see it. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* They do not preach that their God will rouse them a little before the nuts work loose. They do not teach that His pity allows them to leave their job when they damn-well choose. -from "The Sons of Martha" by Rudyard Kipling */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 08:07 I submitted this IBM Idea and would appreciate your support if you're able to vote: https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3827 Title: All error messages for shell tools should be complete and NOT require referencing a Messages and Codes manual Text: Receiving a message like this (example from DSFS dsadm command): IDFS00329E Could not set creation parameters, return code 126 reason code ED07621A. Is confusing and meaningless to the average OMVS shell user. They are not used to finding a messages and codes manual (which is so last millennium) and using Google/Bing/... is useless in finding this, and similar, messages. All shell commands that run under OMVS should provide clear, and complete, messages without requiring the user to find a messages and codes manual. The days of the 1960's and 1970's to -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Error messages (a rant and an idea)
My guess is that even if IBM were to accept this idea and begin implementation that it would take years, perhaps decades, and that they would begin with the shell commands/tools. While I would love to see it expand to all of z/OS I wouldn't hold my breath for that to happen, or for it to happen in my lifetime. MVS/QuickRef is one of those products that every, repeat *EVERY* z/OS shop should have installed. While some claim Google/etc. could replace it, I wouldn't place any bets on that. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 9:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Error messages (a rant and an idea) Do you want to put QuickRef out of business? On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 07:06:48 -0500 "Lionel B. Dyck" wrote: :>I submitted this IBM Idea and would appreciate your support if youre able :>to vote: :> :>https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-382 7 :> :>The text is: :> :>Title: :>All error messages for shell tools should be complete and NOT require :>referencing a Messages and Codes manual :> :>Text: :>Receiving a message like this (example from DSFS dsadm command): IDFS00329E :>Could not set creation parameters, return code 126 reason code ED07621A. Is :>confusing and meaningless to the average OMVS shell user. They are not used :>to finding a messages and codes manual (which is so last millennium) and :>using Google/Bing/... is useless in finding this, and similar, messages. :> :>All shell commands that run under OMVS should provide clear, and complete, :>messages without requiring the user to find a messages and codes manual. The :>days of the 1960's and 1970's to -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Error messages (a rant and an idea)
I submitted this IBM Idea and would appreciate your support if youre able to vote: https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3827 The text is: Title: All error messages for shell tools should be complete and NOT require referencing a Messages and Codes manual Text: Receiving a message like this (example from DSFS dsadm command): IDFS00329E Could not set creation parameters, return code 126 reason code ED07621A. Is confusing and meaningless to the average OMVS shell user. They are not used to finding a messages and codes manual (which is so last millennium) and using Google/Bing/... is useless in finding this, and similar, messages. All shell commands that run under OMVS should provide clear, and complete, messages without requiring the user to find a messages and codes manual. The days of the 1960's and 1970's to Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF REXX Question
The site that asked me seemed to think it important. On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 3:16 PM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > Lionel, > > Does the storage not dropped create a problem? Or is this just a thing you > want cleaned up? > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:02 AM Paul Gilmartin < > 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Sep 2023 13:46:25 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: > > > > > >This is not meant to be snide, just a citation of sorts: these behaviors > > were discussed long ago when Rexx was introduced to VM/CMS, are > established > > canon. (Is that redundant? Can there be UNestablished canon?) > > > > > I used to know that. Perhaps I saw it in the (CMS?) Ref. That has > gotten > > thicker and harder to search. I see no information about storage in: > > <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=instructions-drop> > > > > And I once considered writing an asynchronous ATTACH and find no > > description of whether REXX storage compaction is likely to move > > storage addressed by IRXEXCOM. I use SYSCALL SPAWN instead. > > > > -- > > gil > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > Wayne V. Bickerdike > > ---------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF REXX Question
Rob - thank you very much.
Your comment on the drop not always releasing storage is troubling but it is
what it is.
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Subject: Re: SDSF REXX Question
Lionel
isfreset("all") will drop all SDSF special variables. It won't drop any
column stems.
However, we are not sure if dropping a variable always releases the storage.
We have seen cases where REXX just marks the SVB available but the storage
is still allocated.
Rob Scott
Rocket Software
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After using the SDSF REXX API and issuing the "rc = isfcalls('off')" is
there a way to release/free the storage that the various calls to the API
have allocated. I know I can do a "drop isfulog." But is there a general
way?
TIA
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SDSF REXX Question
After using the SDSF REXX API and issuing the rc = isfcalls(off) is there a way to release/free the storage that the various calls to the API have allocated. I know I can do a drop isfulog. But is there a general way? TIA Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Free ZOWE Class
Just ran across this - y'all (or some) may be interested: Free Zowe course and OMP digital badge from Interskill and the Open Mainframe Project. Enjoy! https://interskill.com/zowe/ Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN
One thing to consider is the affects on the new kids on the block - those who want to, and/or are trying to, learn the mainframe. They come here looking for a professional list from which to ask questions and to learn from. What is the impression they are receiving and will they stay or will they think the mainframe consists of individuals they do not want to associate with. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2023 8:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN I recently stopped posting on a forum (not this one), and I can tell you why ~I~ didn't make an announcement about it: The first is kind of like yours, Brian: I haven't yet been able to find any way of saying "I don't like the conversation here any more" without it sounding, in my ears at least, like "well, if he's going to be that way I'll just take my ball and go home. Then you'll all be sorry!" The second is that sometimes I try to quit and can't resist coming back. There's something so anticlimactic about taking my ball and going home, only to start surreptitiously posting again later, hoping no one will notice that I couldn't stick to my threat :). --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Thirty years ago, opposing the then-equivalent of today's motor voting bill...I was angrily accosted by a public figure who demanded to know just who I thought should not vote. My answer, the 30 percent of Americans who have never heard of the United Nations. -William F Buckley, 1999 */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Brian Westerman Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2023 18:21 People will join the list, people will leave the list. Some of them will let the list know why they left (as in this case) and some of them will either just stop participating or leave without any word at all. It's sad to hear that people are leaving the list for any reason, but to leave because "others" are not being professional boarders on the silly side of things and is more in the line of a tantrum and could have been handled a bit more professionally. There are many ways to selectively weed out the things you don't want to participate in. I like MailWasher (not a plug, but I do use it) to weed out things automatically, but for the most part I just ignore as much of the stuff I disagree with as I can, but in some cases I have also been upset by things. I didn't quit, and I tried not to throw a tantrum. I just slacked off in my participation a bit. I decided that some people have nothing better to do and it's not really my thing to try to "fix" them. I didn't bother telling anyone that I was slacking off for two reasons, 1) it's no one's business but my own, and 2) I think it would be just as unprofessional to throw a tantrum and then quit as the posts that made me want to quit in the first place. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN
No - just click the link Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Watkins Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN Does the 'System Z Enthusiasts' Discord server require an individual invitiation? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Matt Hogstrom Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 11:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Texas Comptroller's email system. DO NOT click links or open attachments unless you expect them from the sender and know the content is safe. Thanks for the link Lionel. I recall seeing this before but didn't follow through. Now if I can only figure out Discord's bizarre account architecture (I seem to have an old account I can't link) Matt Hogstrom "To achieve great things two things are needed: a plan, and not quite enough time." - Leonard Bernstein > On Aug 30, 2023, at 10:21 AM, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > There is now an option - the System Z Enthusiasts discord server. > > Join here > https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisc > ord.gg%2FdvPuM5dg2Y=05%7C01%7Cmichael.watkins%40CPA.TEXAS.GOV%7Cc > 727acb4378c4059b9a508dba9727766%7C2055feba299d4d0daa5a73b8b42fef08%7C0 > %7C0%7C638290081345953367%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAi > LCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=2 > 4SyDYJb4oSCUcq97WO8t1Trq4I%2F69306emc8NFNZK4%3D=0 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN
There is now an option - the System Z Enthusiasts discord server. Join here https://discord.gg/dvPuM5dg2Y Please do so with the goal of sharing in the system z community with your knowledge and expertise, or to ask questions that further your skills and the profession. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lance D. Jackson Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN I completely agree with your assessment Kirk. With all of the other social media options for venting ideological viewpoints, I would hope that IBM-MAIN can return to it's techie roots and be a place where professionals can share their experiences and wisdom. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 10:12 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN Dear ibm-mainers, It is with regrets that after many years I will no longer be actively following IBM-MAIN. The list has become intolerable because of trolling, off-topic thread hijacking, and personal attacks. The signal-to-noise ratio is approaching "1". My assessment is that without some form of community governance and real moderation, IBM-MAIN will soon be completely useless except for the archives. I want to sincerely thank all of the extremely knowledgeable and kind contributors from whom I have learned so much. You are more than welcome to contact me directly for questions in my area of expertise. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http:// <http://dovetail.com/>coztoolkit.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: On-Prem to Cloud Mainframe Migration Experiences
Bill - it's easy to ignore - like I do 99.999% of the time - use the delete key. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 8:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: On-Prem to Cloud Mainframe Migration Experiences I would love to, but can’t allow silly non mainframe comments by others go unchallenged. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, August 30, 2023, 9:52 AM, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: Bill - please use some restraint and keep your posts focused on mainframe topics. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 8:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: On-Prem to Cloud Mainframe Migration Experiences Clearly global warming is occurring. And if you think otherwise, you’re an ignorant fool. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, August 30, 2023, 9:46 AM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Clearly? ... If a few know-it-alls would stop spewing their hot air illogical theories, the temperature might come down a bit. On 2023-08-30 09:18, Bill Johnson wrote: > Wow, clearly global warming is fact while there is zero evidence of any gods > in the history of the world. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Tuesday, August 29, 2023, 6:29 PM, David Elliot > wrote: > > Not seeing much in the way of responses to your question, Lance. Could > be you are asking an impossible question. like ' Is there a god?' or > 'is global warming real?' Were you expecting an outpouring of > enthusiasm for this nebulous technology? What were your experiences? > Did you get what you were promised or what you deserved? > > > > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 11:23 AM Lance D. Jackson < > ljack...@pandrueassociates.com> wrote: > >> List, >> >> Has anyone had experience (good or bad) with migrating their >> mainframe Db2 workload from on-prem to the cloud? >> >> - >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >> IBM-MAIN >> > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: On-Prem to Cloud Mainframe Migration Experiences
Bill - please use some restraint and keep your posts focused on mainframe topics. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 8:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: On-Prem to Cloud Mainframe Migration Experiences Clearly global warming is occurring. And if you think otherwise, you’re an ignorant fool. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, August 30, 2023, 9:46 AM, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Clearly? ... If a few know-it-alls would stop spewing their hot air illogical theories, the temperature might come down a bit. On 2023-08-30 09:18, Bill Johnson wrote: > Wow, clearly global warming is fact while there is zero evidence of any gods > in the history of the world. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Tuesday, August 29, 2023, 6:29 PM, David Elliot > wrote: > > Not seeing much in the way of responses to your question, Lance. Could > be you are asking an impossible question. like ' Is there a god?' or > 'is global warming real?' Were you expecting an outpouring of > enthusiasm for this nebulous technology? What were your experiences? > Did you get what you were promised or what you deserved? > > > > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 11:23 AM Lance D. Jackson < > ljack...@pandrueassociates.com> wrote: > >> List, >> >> Has anyone had experience (good or bad) with migrating their >> mainframe Db2 workload from on-prem to the cloud? >> >> - >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >> IBM-MAIN >> > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Updating IEEMB846
Will SMF Type 32 records suffice? Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Perryman Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 9:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Updating IEEMB846 TSO console has user exits and I'm guessing that it has an init exit. It should be simple to code the exit and write the tso userid to a file (dynalloc with disp=mod). I don't recommend this as a permanent solution. An abend could leave the dataset allocated locking out other users and it wastes space even if you specify blksize=lrecl. It would be a little more work but you could use a VSAM KSDS with the userid as the key to collect the userid only once and eliminate potential alloc problem. I would think the exit could be dynamically activated and deactivated. On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 05:07:20 AM PDT, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw <032fff1be9b4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: I am trying to determine which users are using the TSO CONSOLE command. This is controlled one of those TSOAUTH checks that are done at LOGON time and the results of the RACF check are stored in the PSCB in bit PSCBCNAU. So many normal RACF checking monitors (such as zSecure Access Monitor) are of no use. I want to know who is using it, rather than who can use it. The TSO command table in IEEMB846 is used by the TMP and by ISPF to record commands issued in SMF type 32 records. (ISPF uses an interface via SVC 109.) However, IEEMB846 is old. In fact it is so old that it does not contain TESTAUTH, PARMLIB, CONSOLE, ISPF. The source is in SYS1.SAMPLIB(SMFTSOCM). I wish to update IEEMB846 to include the CONSOLE command. IEEMB846 is in a distinct load module in SYS1.LINKLIB. So can I update this table in flight, or do I need to IPL? Thanks, Lennie -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Converting Assembler TPUTS to ISPF
Check out https://zosopentools.github.io/meta/#/ for an ncurses port to z/OS OMVS, along with A LOT more (git, curl, ...) Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Clem Clarke Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 9:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Converting Assembler TPUTS to ISPF Good one Kirk! Yes LOL! I will leave ncurses alone! I spent months trying to get it to work on the C version. I had it working in Windows then recompiled it for Linux, and it wouldn't work. It couldn't find the terminal type. I said some rude words, and finally wrote some code to convert the excellent Borland C CONIO routines to use the ANSI escape sequences. So now it works on Linux and Windows using pretty much the same code. It allows the use of Borland's simple GOTOXY, GetCusor and color routines. I wonder if these routines would work on Z/OS? Either TSO or the Unix terminal? That would be fantastic. It would save programmers SO much time. I'll post my code for the ANSI codes in a few days, and perhaps someone could try it? Many thanks, Clem - Kirk Wolf wrote: > Maybe port ncurses to ISPF? (LOL). > > Kirk Wolf > Dovetailed Technologies > https://coztoolkit.com > > Related: Our port of ncdu to z/OS can be very handy. We include a binary or > you can build from source with "make". > https://coztoolkit.com/community/ncdu.html > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2023, at 2:17 PM, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >> ISPF also now supports panel exits than can dynamically build or change the >> panel as it is loaded. >> >> >> As a long time ISPF user and dialog developer, may I just say that I don't >> like applications that run in ISPF but fake their panel displays, so they >> don't act like a real ISPF dialog. It is like using an Electron app; it >> never behaves the same as the real thing. >> >> I see this mostly in applications that were originally VTAM apps and later >> ported to ISPF. CA-7, I'm looking at you. >> >> - >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >> IBM-MAIN >> > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Converting Assembler TPUTS to ISPF
For some it is easier to install a single rexx exec than multiple rexx, panels, msgs, skels. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 1:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Converting Assembler TPUTS to ISPF It might be easier to use ISPF dynamic panels, but that should work. However, is it really bothersome to distribute multiple elements? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jeremy Nicoll [jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Converting Assembler TPUTS to ISPF On Tue, 22 Aug 2023, at 17:44, Rupert Reynolds wrote: > Store the panel somewhere in the ISPPLIB allocation, or add your own > panel library (I forget the name of the service to do that). LIBDEF ? I never tried "being clever" but I wonder if one could dynamically write a panel definition into a temporary PDS that's been libdeffed, then use the DISPLAY command to pick up & use that panel definition? If that doesn't work (maybe ispf caches the panel PDS's directory?) then one could presumably do it with - allocate a temp pds - write a single panel definition member to it - libdef that temp pds (by ddname) - display - undo the libdef - delete the temp pds -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Converting Assembler TPUTS to ISPF
'being clever' is exactly what I do with my LOADISPF/DROPISPF routines that can be found on the CBTTape File 312. It allows you to put your ISPF panels, and more, inside a REXX exec and then dynamically load them into a temp pds that is libdef'd. You can also change the panels as they are 'loaded' into the pds or just create your own panels directly. Works like a charm to allow a single element to be distributed instead of many. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jeremy Nicoll Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 12:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Converting Assembler TPUTS to ISPF On Tue, 22 Aug 2023, at 17:44, Rupert Reynolds wrote: > Store the panel somewhere in the ISPPLIB allocation, or add your own > panel library (I forget the name of the service to do that). LIBDEF ? I never tried "being clever" but I wonder if one could dynamically write a panel definition into a temporary PDS that's been libdeffed, then use the DISPLAY command to pick up & use that panel definition? If that doesn't work (maybe ispf caches the panel PDS's directory?) then one could presumably do it with - allocate a temp pds - write a single panel definition member to it - libdef that temp pds (by ddname) - display - undo the libdef - delete the temp pds -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for A Solution
Use XMITIP assuming you have CSSMTP enabled and active on your system. The CSV will arrive as an attachment that they can click on to open and use. This can easily be a step within your job. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2023 10:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Looking for A Solution On the zSeries I have created a .CSV. The issue is I need a solution to send this .CSV to a list of email Users that are very low skilled to their email accounts. And this Job needs to be hands-off so it can be scheduled. Regards, Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: USS Features
I’ve never heard that before in my 50+ years. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: www.lbdsoftware.com Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden > On Aug 14, 2023, at 5:09 AM, David Spiegel > <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Hi Jon, > You said: "...Programmers leave z/OS for Unix in order to be in full control. > Why do you think it's difficult to get z/OS programmers. ..." > I've been doing MVS Systems Programming for 40+ years and have not once > heard any programmer leave for more control. > Could this be a west-coast specific mentality? ... It would not be surprising. > > Regards, > David > >> On 2023-08-14 01:54, Jon Perryman wrote: >> > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 06:04:55 PM PDT, Grant Taylor wrote: >>> These statements cause me to pause. They seem somewhat antithetical to >>> welcoming and encouraging people to use the mainframe / z/OS. >> >>> Why is it absurd to allow everyone to do a Proof Of Concept on z/OS? >> You're confusing z/OS with Unix where all programmers are systems >> programmers who can do anything they want. z/OS is NOT about be welcoming >> and encouraging. It's about what's best for the business. Your on a >> multi-million dollar computer shared by thousands. As a business programmer >> (not Unix sysprog), you're not qualified nor authorized to make these >> decisions. >> >> Programmers leave z/OS for Unix in order to be in full control. Why do you >> think it's difficult to get z/OS programmers. >> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 06:04:55 PM PDT, Grant Taylor >> <023065957af1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >>>On 8/7/23 9:56 AM, Jon Perryman wrote: >>> It's absurd to allow everyone to do Proof Of Concept on z/OS. Are >>> all POC vital to the business? Are POCs disruptive to the business? >> These statements cause me to pause. They seem somewhat antithetical to >> welcoming and encouraging people to use the mainframe / z/OS. >> >> Why is it absurd to allow everyone to do a Proof Of Concept on z/OS? >> >> Is there anything about z/OS that would cause you to worry about the >> security and stability of the system? >> >> Do you not trust a tiny VM / LPAR running a test instance of z/OS with >> absolutely minimal resources explicitly for such PoCs? >> >> I'd think that it would be a huge win for the platform to try to get >> more people to do things on it. >> >> No, not all PoCs are vital to the business. But I think that it's >> difficult to tell if any given PoC is vital until /after/ it has been >> tested. >> >> I suspect that there were people that thought that TCP/IP wasn't vital >> to the system back in SNA's heyday. Yet here we are 20+ years later and >> the idea of having any system without a TCP/IP stack is unthinkable. >> How long would TCP/IP for the mainframe have been delayed if someone >> didn't allow such a PoC until /after/ evidence showed that it was needed. >> >> I sincerely doubt that operators /needed/ to create programs that >> printed interesting things to printers after hours. But I suspect that >> many learned a thing or two about the system while doing so. >> >> I would sincerely hope that VM / LPAR could contain anything running in >> a tiny z/OS instance such that it couldn't be disruptive to the system. >> >> Or, if it was somehow disruptive to the system, that might be a good >> indicator that something needs to be tuned or a bug needs to be fixed >> thereby enhancing the larger mainframe z/OS / z/VM community. >> >> I think that encouraging people to do things on the mainframe / z/OS is >> a *GOOD* thing. >> >> >> >> Grant. . . . >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ISPF List and Log - Improved Access
Sadly the link wrapped and that broke it. Try again but combine it before trying to use it https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck2/2022/06/02/ispf-list-and-log-improved-access Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rahim Azizarab Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 2:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF List and Log - Improved Access Page not found. regards; Rahim On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 07:35:52 AM CDT, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: I was asked yesterday about viewing the ISPF list and log files. This article I wrote a year ago provides some useful information on how to simplify things for your ISPF users (and yourself). https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck 2/2022/06/02/ispf-list-and-log-improved-access Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM z/OS Internet Library down?
Correction - I clicked the wrong link (a tad small on my iphone) - got the 'right' link and it failed as yours did. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bonnie Barthel Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 8:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM z/OS Internet Library down? >From >https://www-40.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosInternetLibrary?OpenDocument On V2R5 | V2R4 | V2R3 | V2R2 | V2R1 | - Download books in PDF format Click on V2R5 Oops — that's not right! The page you requested cannot be displayed. 500: Internal Server Error Click on 'Report the issue' and get The wait is over: meet watsonx Is there a new address for the Internet Library? Or is this a personal problem? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM z/OS Internet Library down?
Worked for me Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bonnie Barthel Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 8:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM z/OS Internet Library down? >From >https://www-40.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosInternetLibrary?OpenDocument On V2R5 | V2R4 | V2R3 | V2R2 | V2R1 | - Download books in PDF format Click on V2R5 Oops — that's not right! The page you requested cannot be displayed. 500: Internal Server Error Click on 'Report the issue' and get The wait is over: meet watsonx Is there a new address for the Internet Library? Or is this a personal problem? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
ISPF List and Log - Improved Access
I was asked yesterday about viewing the ISPF list and log files. This article I wrote a year ago provides some useful information on how to simplify things for your ISPF users (and yourself). https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck 2/2022/06/02/ispf-list-and-log-improved-access Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
z/OS 3.1 Educational materials
Just found this gotta LOVE IBM for doing this For z/OS 3.1 https://github.com/IBM/IBM-Z-zOS/tree/main/zOS-Education/zOS-3.1-Education For z/OS 2.1 to 2.5 (including 3.1) start here https://github.com/IBM/IBM-Z-zOS/tree/main/zOS-Education Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows
Agreed - poor choice of wording. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 1:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows Lionel wrote: >It would be impossible to speak to highly about Co:Z Presumably you meant "too highly". Just clarifying, as it's easy to read this as a slam against Co:Z! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows
Go to https://coztoolkit.com/downloads/coz/index.html and then click on Documentation to read all about it. Then click on License/Support to determine if your site qualifies (most do unless you are an outsourcer). Then click Downloads and enjoy. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 10:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:58:04 -0500, John S. Giltner, Jr wrote: >... >ls /+mode=text > It's a pity that sftp provides no analogue of QUOTE SITE to do such things cleanly. Is there "ls /+mode=record" to deal with FILEDATA=RECORD. One might want to "get" a traditional data set, supplying RDWs for the client. Is there support for CCSID tagging? Is the reference manual available? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows
It would be impossible to speak to highly about Co:Z - and not just about their sftp server enhancement but also their other tools. They have provided what IBM should have. Check the license - it's free with some restrictions. And they offer a full support contract as well (which I would encourage you to consider if you're going to use it in production if only to support this great company). Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John S. Giltner, Jr. Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows Co:Z SFTP only talks SSH/SFTP. It sits "on top" of IBM's ported OpenSSH. So you need IBM's OpenSSH installed. To get/put z/OS files you do need to use some special command such as to put a text file with LRECL=80 and fixed block to z/OS ls /+mode=text,lrecl=80,recmf=fb,blksize=0,space=trk.1.1 put //!ZOS.FILE.NAME To get a z/OS file that is text: ls /+mode=text get //ZOS.FILE.NAME To do binary it would be ls /+mode=binary. For OMVS files the get/put are just like any other *nix host. If the files are in EBCDIC you need the ls /+mode=text. If they are binary or in ASCII you use /+mode=binary/ Co:Z does have a config file where you can set defaults for mode, lrecl, blksize and everything else so you don't have to specify the parameters every time if you know what you going to be using most of the time. You can also use Co:Z as a client on z/OS to send/get files from other SFTP servers. On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 10:25:34 -0400, Rick Troth wrote: >This is great to hear, John. Thanks. > >For people like me, who need excruciating clarity, you're saying that >the SERVER in the Co:Z product groks traditional datasets as well as >USS files. Correct? Fantastic! >That means one can use a variety of clients, specifically several which >go via SSH. Is that also correct? > >You mention SFTP which is FTP-like behavior using SSH under the covers. >Contrast with FTPS which is traditional FTP but with SSL/TLS added. >I'm keen on the former because it uses a single channel. Though I much >prefer a one-shot command in any case, and 'scp' does that (and runs >via SSH like 'sftp'). > >Does the Co:Z server speak both SSH (for SFTP) and traditional FTP? > >-- R; <>< > > >On 7/28/23 07:34, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: >> I use sftp with Co:Z SFTP installed on the z/OS side. It allows access to >> z/OS files as well as OMVS files. Where as OpenSSH on z/OS only allows >> access to OMVS files. >> >> Under Windows you can use WSL, Putty, Cygwin, or any other CLI sftp product. >> I use Cygwin most of the time. >> >> >> On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 16:06:52 -0500, Steve Estle wrote: >> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> I work in a secure government environment and moving files up and down from >>> the mainframe (especially traditional ZOS datasets) is a '' pita with >>> Winscp and everything I read (including IBMMAIN archives) is that tool is >>> just plain dumb when it comes to datasets with standard ZOS HLQ's. I'm >>> trying to do a non-scientific poll - what is the preferred FTP client to >>> run on Windows platform out there everyone is using that you are happy with >>> and can easily navigate to either traditional ZOS HLQ dataset or Unix >>> System Services files. Of course freeware is preferred if user friendly. >>> >>> I know there is Filezilla but not sure it is much better than Winscp? >>> >>> Thanks for everyone's thoughts and input. >>> >>> Steve Estle >>> steven.es...@peraton.com >>> >>> >>> -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >>> IBM-MAIN >> - >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >> IBM-MAIN > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
SHARE Bit Bucket Session
I seem to recall, and I could be having a senior moment, that there is, or was, a webpage with a list of all the Bit Bucket sessions going back to the first one. But I can't find that webpage. Can anyone help? At least confirm that one used to exist and I'm not having a memory check failure? Thanks Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXT] Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives
For history see https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos-basic-skills?topic=now-history-ims-beginnings-nasa and https://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=377307=2 >From the 2nd link: IMS is still a viable, even unmatched, platform to implement very large online transaction processing (OLTP) systems and, in combination with Web Application Server technology, it is the foundation for a new generation of Web-based, high-workload applications. Here are some interesting facts about how IMS is used. IMS manages a large percentage of the world's corporate data. Over 95% of Fortune 1000 companies use IMS. IMS manages over 15 million gigabytes of production data. $2.5 trillion (in US dollars) per day is transferred through IMS by one customer. IMS processes over 50 billion transactions per day. IMS serves over 200 million users every day. IMS processes over 100 million transactions per day for one customer. IMS processes over 120 million transactions per day (7 million per hour) for another customer. IMS can process 21,000 transactions per second (over 1 billion per day) using IMS data sharing and shared queues. A single IMS has processed over 6000 transactions per second over a single TCP/IP connection. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Schmitt, Michael Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXT] Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives No, I don’t know of an IMS/TM + DB2 system. But then the CICS systems I work with are also not using DB2. They use VSAM! And even for IMS/DB, my gut feel is there are a lot more CICS + IMS/DB installations than IMS/TM + IMS/DB. Also, CICS is from ~1966, IMS/DC (later renamed to IMS/TM in IMS Version 4) must have been much later than that, but I can't find the date. Reason I think I it is much later (late 70's? early 80's?) is because, as I understand it, the reason CICS was designed the way it is was because at the time, the OS it ran on wasn't so great at multitasking. Or maybe didn't do multitasking at all. But IMS/DC was designed at a time when the OS was good at preemptive multitasking between tasks and jobs. Was this MVS? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 12:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXT] Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives Hi Michael, I have yet to see a site running IMS/DC and not run IMS/DB. Have you actually seen this? BTW, the article had more than one technical error. For example, a JCL Step name with 9 characters. Regards, David On 2023-07-25 13:16, Schmitt, Michael wrote: > The Ars Technica article was discussing CICS as an application server. I was > comparing CICS as an application server to IMS/TM as an application server. > The DBMS is a different issue; there's no reason why IMS/TM must be used with > IMS/DB. You can use IMS/TM with DB2. > > The point I was trying to make was that CICS was designed as a cooperative > multitasking system that reproduces all of the OS functions in itself. IMS/TM > (originally IMS/DC) was designed to use the OS to do OS things and does none > of that in itself, so it is *much* simpler. > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of David Spiegel > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 11:48 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [EXT] Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and > why it survives > > Hi Michael, > You said: "...CICS is to IMS as Windows 3.1 is to Windows 10. ..." > You're comparing apples and oranges. > (CICS has no native Database portion.) BTW, a lot of the banks, > insurance companies etc. are running CICS+DB2. > The majority of IMS users need it to support 40+ year old application > systems. > Which one is the real dinosaur? (Hint: It's not CICS) > > Regards, > David > > On 2023-07-25 10:37, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >> So CICS is no longer doing cooperative multitasking within each AOR, and >> thus requiring CICS versions of OS commands to prevent wait states from >> freezing the entire AOR? A CICS program can do direct GETMAINs, LOADS, >> abends, rather than use CICS commands? CICS no longer requires special >> versions of tools (e.g. debugger, abend dump management) and instead can use >> the same tools as batch programs? A CICS programmer no longer needs to learn >> a long list of CICS commands and EXEC CICS syntax? A CICS region no longer >> contains the storage fro
Re: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives
Wow - talk about scary - requires hundreds to thousands of support staff - something the author harps on several times. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Schmitt, Michael Sent: Monday, July 24, 2023 11:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives Ars Technica published a deep-dive explainer of modern IBM mainframes: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/07/the-ibm-mainframe-how-it-runs-and-why-it-survives/ I’d quibble with the application server topic that talks about CICS with no mention of IMS/TM. CICS is to IMS as Windows 3.1 is to Windows 10. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch
I'm assuming (and I know the danger of doing that) that you are using TSO in batch since you mention TSOLIB. Check out the STEPLIB command on www.cbttape.org in file 452. If nothing else you can look at the source code to see how it does it. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 10:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Equivalent of TSOLIB for batch I am trying to do the equivalent of TSOLIB for BATCH, i.e., dynamically adding loadlibs. I do not have spare parent tasks that I can hang a JLB DCB. It appears that the system is very protective of STEPLIB and will not allow me to dynamically concat datasets to it (even after closing it in the initiator task). I tried allocating the libraries and opened a DCB and placed it in JLB of the initiator task, but no luck. Does reaching TCBJSTCB stop the search of the JLBs? Is there some tricky parameter that will allow the dynamic concatenation of datasets to STEPLIB? -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
