Old book

[W Mainframe]

HiDoes anyone has a IBM C/370 v1.0 Reference Guide for VM/CMS, book (.boo) or 
pdf? There is nothing at bitsavers... :(ThanksDan
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Re: Tape 6250

[W Mainframe]

Thanks a lot Jay!


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On Friday, April 5, 2024, 9:43 AM, Jay Maynard 
<05997213d6c2-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

I have a package called vtapeutils that will do the job. No binaries, but
the source is at https://github.com/jmaynard/vtapeutils .

On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 7:01 AM W Mainframe <
01304632a58d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Guys,Recently I got some old mainframe converted 6250 tapes.Something like
> .tap files, never saw that.The question is... Does anyone know some utility
> to extract or convert this files to .aws files?
> Thank youDan
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Tape 6250

[W Mainframe]

Guys,Recently I got some old mainframe converted 6250 tapes.Something like .tap 
files, never saw that.The question is... Does anyone know some utility to 
extract or convert this files to .aws files?
Thank youDan

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Re: in search of AIX/ESA

[W Mainframe]

I am sure someone hasBut... Forget about...
:(

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On Wednesday, April 3, 2024, 9:41 AM, Rick Troth 
<058ff5c2d0a7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

Is anyone running AIX/ESA or do you happen to have installation media 
for AIX/ESA?
I could ask the same about AIX/370 (which could run in either /370 and 
/XA mode).

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Re: GNU COBOL

[W Mainframe]

Hi,A port to USS OMVS sounds perfect... :)
Dan


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On Monday, March 18, 2024, 5:57 PM, Rick Troth 
<058ff5c2d0a7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

I try to maintain working copies of Gnu COBOL in the Chicory collection.
Presently we have Gnu COBOL 3.2 for FreeBSD (64 bit), AMD/Intel Linux 
(64-bit and 32-bit), and Z or S390 Linux (64-bit and 31-bit).

rsync://chic.casita.net/opt/gnucobol-3.2/

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> offers in all environments," boasted contributor Fabrice Le Fessant, in a 
> FOSDEM talk.
>
> https://thenewstack.io/20-years-in-the-making-gnucobol-is-ready-for-industry/
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Multiprise power outage

[W Mainframe]

Guys,
I have a Mulltirpise 3000 for hobbyst purposes. Recently I faced a strong power 
outage, after this I just see the leds on in power unit, but the nothing is 
working. :(My question is... Is there any secret button (like a fuse) to bring 
it running again?!
Thank youDan
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Re: GIMAPI returned buffer size limit

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Hi
I noticed the same, but the codition filter is related with zones and global 
and entries. The results are different for example if you are using just tzones 
or dzones or a mix of tzones, dzones and global.Of course, I do not know your 
scenary, but it almost like that.
RegardsDan

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On Thursday, March 14, 2024, 6:54 AM, ITschak Mugzach 
<05a7ced721d8-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

We are using the GIMAPU (SMP) to retrieve data from SMP. We noticed that
not all of the data conform with the conditions specified are returned. At
the end of the query command, we perform a FREE command to free the storage
occupied by the QUERY call.

The problem is easy to identify when querying for SYSMOD entry.

Does GIMAPI have a storage limitation, and if so, can it be controlled by
the program?

ITschak

ITschak Mugzach
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Re: PL/X

[W Mainframe]

You are correct Peter. I just asked PDF's, no compiler.. Or even an environment 
to run PL/X.In past I wrote lot of PL/X programs, But I am a bit far from that 
moment. I was planning to refresh my skill. Only this and no more than this. 
:)BtwThank youDan


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On Saturday, September 30, 2023, 9:18 AM, Peter Relson  
wrote:

>There is another solution

What are you thinking the "problem" is for which you mention a "solution"? The 
first post I saw was asking about PDF's, not about access to PL/X. Was there a 
post that did not show up in the daily digest? The "access-to-PL/X ship" sailed 
long ago.

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PL/X

[W Mainframe]

HiI am looking for old PL/X 3.2 PDFs...Does anyone has it?
Thank youDan

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Re: Any recommendations for a 3270 emulator for Android

[W Mainframe]

I have used Mocha TN3270 Lite..No issues about itDan


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On Sunday, September 24, 2023, 8:26 PM, Charles Mills  wrote:

Anyone have personal recommendations for a 3270 emulator for Android phones 
and/or tablets?

Android, NOT Windows -- you would have to pry Vista out of my cold, dead 
fingers.

I certainly don't intend to do heads-down coding on my phone. This is just so I 
could respond to a client emergency without having to lug my laptop around.

Thanks!
Charles

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Re: zOSMF

[W Mainframe]

Hi,Just some few words..:I hate zosmf and zowe... :)And yes... I have some good 
applications running on CUI... No plans to migrate... :)Dan


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On Sunday, May 28, 2023, 8:26 AM, Seymour J Metz  wrote:

The problem is not the D interface; the Devil is in the details. The real 
issue is the design, and what IBM has chosen to hide, rather than CLI vs panels 
vs GUI.

It is perfectly possible to write a program with a scriptable GUI; anybody 
remember SOM, DSOM and WPS. A GUI is a good servant but a poor master, and even 
with a GUI it is easy to provide visibility to things that you have automated.


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Jack Zukt [jzuk...@gmail.com]
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The real problem, as I see it, is that drag and drop interfaces move you
away from the need to know what you are doing. A long time ago, the first
MVS install that I did on my own, took me a few months to do it. I was
doing it under VM/XA and I did a few complete back to square one at the
time, as I was not pressed for time. At the time I had about two years of
MVS experience. I did read a lot of MVS and JES2 reading, you know,
installation guides,  references, customization and such. When I finnaly
was satisfied with the system I knew a lot more than when I started.
The point that I am trying to make is that you may be able to do a z/OS
install using zosmf knowing next to nothing of z/OS, but with that
knowledge you will not be able to debug any kind of problem that you will
get in your way.
So, I suppose that the next step will be some kind of IA doing the install
and problem solving.
That makes me glad that I am not so far away from retirement.
Jack

On Wed, May 24, 2023, 21:21 Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> I enjoy learning new things, but I'd rather not replace good tools with
> bad just because the bad tools are in fashion.
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
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>
> I had a choice 30 years ago to go into the pc, server, network side of IT
> or go the mainframe direction.
> I chose the mainframe because I liked it better.
> I'm not a GUI fan.
> It's not Windows.
> I do have grey hair.
> I do understand the need to atract younger people to the mainframe.
> What I don't understand is why IBM would take away a working method
> (SERVERPAC) and force
> those of us with grey to learn something new when we well know how to use
> what we already have in place.
> And, a lot of us looking at retirement not t far away.
>
> Randy Harris
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> C 662-401-8552
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>
> -Original Message-
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>
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> Beverly Caldwell wrote:
> >If zosmf is the answer what the hell was the question?
>
> I’m going to take that as a straight question. I assume the question was,
> “How do we make z/OS easier to install and maintain for folks who don’t
> have any grey hair yet?”
>
> This is essentially the same question that led to GUIs in general. The
> problem is that it’s not trivial to answer—putting some lipstick on the pig
> doesn’t always do it: sometimes you need to restructure the pig.
> 
>
>
> I’m reminded of the Windows version of the Relay/Gold terminal emulator,
> which was acquired by VM Systems Group when I was there. Under certain SDLC
> error conditions, it would drop out of the Windows UI into a DOS error
> dialog. Which was not really recoverable, since it needed someone to press
> a key. At one point a customer was considering buying a power strip that
> plugged into a phone line and could be called to cause it to power cycle,
> as they had an automated process that would be stopped when this error
> occurred. Talk about a Rube Goldberg solution! I’m sure the real fix was a
> single line of code somewhere, but finding that was non-trivial, of course.
> Especially since Relay/Gold was written in x86 assembler, a non-standard
> variant from a dead company. So there were no diagnostic tools to speak of.
> And as a tiny vendor, we didn’t have the hardware to even simulate the
> error…Good times. /s
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Old sites

[W Mainframe]

Hi
Looking for people who is running VM/ESA in production. If yes, can we share 
some ideas?
ThanksDan

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Re: Is z/OS Name/Token pair retrieval supported from REXX?

[W Mainframe]

Hi,
Some time ago I created a Rexx function in BAL code to perform IEANT service, 
nut there are a plus.The CBT784 has storage/release/linkedliat/ieant services.
RegardsDan Gaeta


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On Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 1:15 PM, Mike Shaw  wrote:

Listers,

The answer to my question is probably "no" since the doc on IEANTRT is
silent on this topic.

I need to be able to check for the existence of a specific name/token pair
from a REXX exec, WITHOUT using an external function. The z/OS Authorized
Assembler Services reference implies that only Assembler is supported, and
I have used that interface to create/retrieve/delete name/token pairs, but
I need to check for the existence of a specific name/token pair from a
REXX  exec.

...and I suppose it is a given that there is no (documented) anchored chain
of name/token pairs that I can run with the Rexx STORAGE function...

Mike Shaw
MVS/QuickRef Support Group
Chicago-Soft, Ltd.

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Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

[W Mainframe]

IBM is only IBM...There are lot of CICS clone running in our world... :)This is 
not a news... I have a CICS clone running in a 100% JVM... Gnucobol, BMS 
supporting, Java transactions and a simulated VSAM under Mysql... works fine... 
My toy!
lol
Dan


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On Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 10:50 PM, Tom Brennan 
 wrote:

My guess is it's more like how Compaq managed to create their PC 
compatible ROM in the 80's.

On 11/22/2022 4:46 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Reverse engineering to get the source code is illegal.
> 
> 
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> 
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:23 AM, Joe Monk  wrote:
> 
> Not sure that this is a winnable lawsuit though.
> 
> The architecture of a file (and the data therein) that is only needed to
> run a product is not copyright protected. So copying the WSBIND
> file doesnt necessarily amount to a copyright violation.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 10:10 AM Bob T Roller <
> 044ef325f6c3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Not surprised. They lost their preferred vendor status with IBM a year or
>> so ago. Because of their tie up with Amazon.
>>
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>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 9:25 AM, Mark Regan  wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/22/ibm_sues_micro_focus_for
>>>
>>> ​Regards,
>>>
>>> Mark Regan, K8MTR General, EN80tg
>>> CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991),
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Re: AW: SPF/SE is available for free

[W Mainframe]

The SPF/SE is an excellent editor, indeed...I use another eccellent editor, 
always free, The Hessling Editor, a Xedit clone with full macro support using 
Rexx.
Dan


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On Tuesday, November 15, 2022, 5:47 AM, Michael Knigge  
wrote:

Some words from Tim's wife bonnie:


I don't have any install files...nothing on the product. I only got involved 
with filling orders but I can no longer access any of Tim's files. I don't have 
his passwords and none of the companies, AOL, Google, Microsoft, etc. would 
give me access even though it was in his Will that I have access. Our attorney 
would have taken up the case but it was going to cost more than the family 
wanted to spend. Apparently with these companies you have to set up Beneficiary 
info in your profile. Wills mean nothing.


So... I don't think that we can get some many people for a crow-founding that 
we collect enough money to pay the attorney


Sadly

Bye,
Michael



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Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  Im Auftrag von 
Farley, Peter
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. November 2022 20:12
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Betreff: Re: SPF/SE is available for free

I agree with Jay that it still may be possible to recover the source IF the 
files still exist.

I know it probably is possible to set up PW protected or encrypted files to 
"self-destruct" or somehow lock permanently (I assume any agency or company who 
are serious about secrecy all have access to some capability like that), but is 
such a seriously advanced capability really available to "ordinary" folk like 
the SPF developer?

Even assuming the answer to that question is "yes", it would be worth asking if 
a certified "white hat" hacker or company had the capability to unlock such 
files anyway.  Obviously it depends entirely on what the "locking" mechanism 
really was and how permanent the "self-destruct" status is, but I tend to think 
that someone with the necessary credentials could possibly resolve this 
unfortunate situation.  Money would be the first issue of course since no one 
who does such work normally does it gratis, but among those who are real fans 
of the software I am sure some way could be found to fund such an effort, via 
crowd site or more private means.

Any such effort would require his widow's cooperation and official written 
approval of course, but it sounds to me like that would not be an issue.

Another question to ask is if any version of the source was escrowed with a law 
firm or other "rights protecting" organization in order to make a sale to a 
large company?  Many software developers and companies have had to do that to 
protect the rights of large user organizations.  Such a situation might provide 
(with cooperation from the beneficiary(ies) of the escrow) access to some 
version of the original code, though getting it released in the open might take 
lawyers and/or court actions.

Just a couple of thoughts for consideration.

Peter

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Jay,

I've got the following information.


Hello Michael. I contacted his wife and she told me that Tim’s SPF s/w is “gone 
forever”.  Apparently he PW protected it and when she tried to break the PW, it 
self destructed. In any case, according to her, there is no hope for any data 
recovery. Very disappointing.


Sorry

Michael


Mit freundlichen Grüßen 

Michael Knigge
Software Engineer 



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Jay Maynard
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Betreff: Re: SPF/SE is available for free

Hm. According to the README on the Github site, the source code was stored 
encrypted...are the encrypted files still in existence? Perhaps they can be 
obtained and decrypted. It's a long shot, to be sure, but definitely worth a 
try.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 9:22 AM Michael Knigge  wrote:

> FYI:
>
> I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command 
> Technology. The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately 
> died in 2022 as a result of a corona infection. With some research and 
> help from other SPF users (namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible 
> to contact Tim's wife Bonnie. She gave us permission to distribute the 
> editor for free (sadly the source code is “lost” forever).

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Re: rexx and IDCAMS functions

[W Mainframe]

You should use Rexx LINKMVS host command processor to call programs using a 
parameter list. 
For example to call a Cobol program :
Rexx :
rxv1='data1'rxv2='data2'Address linkmvs 'cobsamp rxv1 rxv1'(each rexx variable 
in linkmvs will be an address in plist)
Cobol :
linkage section01 rxv1 pic x(10).01 rxv2 pic x(20).procedure division using 
rxv1 rxv2.

Dan 



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On Wednesday, August 17, 2022, 12:58 AM, Seymour J Metz  wrote:

The TSO commands that front-end IDCAMS expect a CPPL; you need ADDRESS TSO.;


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
Lizette Koehler [stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:49 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: rexx and IDCAMS functions

I am actually using LINKMVS  and that is getting the error

I want my general user to be able to do things without knowing idcams

Lizette

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Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 2:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:18:54 -0700, Lizette Koehler  wrote:

>I am going to write a process in REXX using things like DCOLLECT  LISTC
>etc..
>
>I am running into S913-70
>
Have you looked at: 
?

>I am trying to figure out what I need to do to resolve it
>
>Something in RACF? Pads  IKJTSOxx??
>
More details?  What is your code so far?

Is this something that can't be done with ADDRESS LINKMVS IDCAMS?

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Re: Converting assembler to COBOL help

[W Mainframe]

Hi,A suggestion... I did similar thing some years ago using z390 Macro 
Language. In summary you can create macros and replace used macros by Cobol 
statements.The macros just punch Cobol statements to an output.I converted 
about 250 critical Cobol code.Main question... Is it 100%, of course not... But 
I would say 75%.
RegardsDan


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On Friday, July 8, 2022, 8:53 PM, Paul Gilmartin 
<042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 22:51:38 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
>
>    ...  The business logic was totally scrambled, sometimes by "old-timer" 
>tricks like non-reentrant branch gates and other such no-no's under current 
>maintainability and pipeline-flush avoidance rules, other times just by 
>flagrantly awful spaghetti code even a human would struggle to understand.
> 
Was that merely faithfully replicating deficiencies in the input?

What architecture level?

What might it do with such as RISBG?

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Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

[W Mainframe]

Hi,
I have a customer that replaces 355 desktops (Dell,HP,IBM) and 8 old terminals 
by Raspberry PI 3 running Raspian distro. Perfect! No issues.
Dan


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On Thursday, April 28, 2022, 1:58 PM, Tom Longfellow 
<03e29b607131-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

Chromebooks are not a bad idea.    But they would require an earth-shattering 
paradigm shift for the desktop/workstation support staff.  There was long since 
retired manager whose attitude was "If it does not contain a Windows component, 
you aren't done yet".    (Sometimes substituting Linux instead of Windows if 
backed against the wall)

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Re: HLL support for interfaces that use R0

[W Mainframe]

Seymor,
Actually I never saw any example based on my code. I just figured out this 
after a Cobol abend and I needed to checj the dump. I noticed some known data 
areas. So.. Trust me, it works! :)
Dan 


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What's the syntax for indicating that it comes from R0 rather than R1+offset?


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I have some Rexx functions written in Cobol. Basically we receive the register 
R0 as a first parameter in Linkage Section. So... Works like a function written 
in HLASM. It's fun and very interesting.
RegardsDan


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A recent thread on REXX raises the question of what compilers support 
interfaces that require passing an address in R0 in addition to the PLIST 
address in R1. A secondary issue is how to handle multiple callbacks from a 
non-LE program without the overhead of establishing the LE environment each 
time.The obvious use case is a driver program that initialises REXX, passes 
REXX a script and is then called every time the script either calls a routine 
that the driver has included in a function package or passes a command string 
to one of the environments that the driver registered. Think ISPF EDIT or XEDIT 
writen in PL/I, only less ambitious.
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Re: HLL support for interfaces that use R0

[W Mainframe]

Sorry... My previous email I have made a mistake.. 
Linkage Section.
01 args.  05 arg1    pointer.  05 arg1l   pic s(9) comp.
01 evalblock.  05 eval1      pic x(4).  05 eval2      pic x(4).  05 eval3      
pic s(9) comp.  05 eval4      pic x(4).  05 evals      pic x(80).
Procedure Division p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 p6.
set address of args to address p5.
set address of evalblock to p6.move low-values to eval1 eval4 eval2move length 
of evals to eval3move 'my evaluate content' to evals
Parameters :p5 .. argument listp6 .. evaluate block


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<01304632a58d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

I have some Rexx functions written in Cobol. Basically we receive the register 
R0 as a first parameter in Linkage Section. So... Works like a function written 
in HLASM. It's fun and very interesting.
RegardsDan


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A recent thread on REXX raises the question of what compilers support 
interfaces that require passing an address in R0 in addition to the PLIST 
address in R1. A secondary issue is how to handle multiple callbacks from a 
non-LE program without the overhead of establishing the LE environment each 
time.The obvious use case is a driver program that initialises REXX, passes 
REXX a script and is then called every time the script either calls a routine 
that the driver has included in a function package or passes a command string 
to one of the environments that the driver registered. Think ISPF EDIT or XEDIT 
writen in PL/I, only less ambitious.
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Re: HLL support for interfaces that use R0

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I have some Rexx functions written in Cobol. Basically we receive the register 
R0 as a first parameter in Linkage Section. So... Works like a function written 
in HLASM. It's fun and very interesting.
RegardsDan


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A recent thread on REXX raises the question of what compilers support 
interfaces that require passing an address in R0 in addition to the PLIST 
address in R1. A secondary issue is how to handle multiple callbacks from a 
non-LE program without the overhead of establishing the LE environment each 
time.The obvious use case is a driver program that initialises REXX, passes 
REXX a script and is then called every time the script either calls a routine 
that the driver has included in a function package or passes a command string 
to one of the environments that the driver registered. Think ISPF EDIT or XEDIT 
writen in PL/I, only less ambitious.
. 


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Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

[W Mainframe]

Hey,Provide me your email and I will send a routine to list  rexx variables. In 
my routine you will be able to search variables current rexx pool showing the 
result in sysout or you can start a panel showing a browse of these variables 
to checking or updating.Dan


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On Wednesday, February 16, 2022, 6:47 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 
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Thanks Lionel, I will check that out.

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The only thing that comes to mind is the STEMEDIT from CBT File 895.  It 
doesn't 'dump' the list but does allow viewing using ISPF.  

Perhaps you could take that and adjust to do the 'dump'..


Lionel B. Dyck 

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Is there any available routine / function package that a z/OS TSO Rexx program 
can use like the oorexx function SysDumpVariables for debugging purposes?

I have looked through the CBT File001 descriptions and looked at both Mark 
Zelden and Lionel Dyck's pages but found nothing like this available.  My 
google-fu has failed me as well, nothing but the oorexx function turns up in 
any of my searches.

TIA for any pointer or RTFM you can provide.

Peter
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Re: is there any document for using shopz

[W Mainframe]

Jason,
Shopz is extremely friendly. No additional efforts to get products or ptfs. 
Like Next... Next.. Next..The most important to do is about setup SMP/E to 
receive Shopz packages directly to your USS filesystems. It can avoid boring 
tasks.
Dan

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Hi all 

  I just am authorized to access IBM shopz. I had never accessed IBM shopz 
before.  

  Is there any document about how to order production or PTF by shopz.

  Any suggestion is greatly appreciated!

Thanks a lot!

Jason Cai

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Re: Ad programming features (Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

[W Mainframe]

If you are coding as professional, use the best language for that, if you are 
coding by passion, just use Rexx... :)
Dan


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Nobody is denying the value of that code. I wrote thousands of lines of REXX  
code for system automation back in the 90s

I just can’t find a use case for writing new REXX code today. Everything had 
changed. 

> On 8 Jan 2022, at 19:40, René Jansen  wrote:
> 
> Well I am explicitly not reacting on another round of namecalling. What is 
> worrying to me is the denial of the value of all existing interfaces in the 
> OS and infrastructure to the standard scripting language on the platform, 
> making the ‘modernization’ effort a reduction to uss, which will be hated by 
> everybody used to Linux. But if the reaction consists of ‘unprofessional’, 
> I’m done.
> 
> 
>> On 8 Jan 2022, at 05:43, David Crayford  wrote:
>> 
>> Why not compile lua to support utf8?
>> 
>> Your unrelenting love of REXX worries me. it’s  the perfect example of 
>> personal preference over a functional requirement which is unprofessional 
>> and a red flag. 
>> 
 On 8 Jan 2022, at 14:57, René Jansen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I looked at your list and I am happy to see that these include the things 
>>> you find important. JS is undeniably a big factor but “the good parts” is a 
>>> thin booklet. As is groovy - slow and nevery had any appeal to me, just 
>>> looks messy. I quite like Ruby as an idea but slow as molasses. 
>>> 
>>> Today I looked at Lua, and although quite elegant, small and snappy, I am 
>>> really disappointed that this is one of those languages that gives you 
>>> wrong answers for numeric problems and having unicode support in a utf8 
>>> library that is different from the string functions - that is just funny. I 
>>> am not implying that all Rexx implementations shine in this regard, but 
>>> that is just neglect. NetRexx does, however, as it does in unlimited 
>>> decimal precision arithmetic.
>>> 
>>> Of course NetRexx can use the Java stream API for functional programming. 
>>> That remark is just as odd as ‘it only has one type’. The fact that it is 
>>> from 1995 and can use features that only appeared in Java 8 - personally I 
>>> find that telling about the quality of the design. But I am not telling you 
>>> that you need to like it - like the way we are told that we now need to 
>>> like Python more than Rexx, while it cannot do what we need to do - for all 
>>> the wrong reasons.
>>> 
>>> Looking at your list of requirements I think Scheme had it quite covered. 
>>> Some of them are gimmicky and some seem useful. None of them address the 
>>> core qualities of the mainframe, which are Channels, packed decimal, DB2, 
>>> CICS and COBOL (as long as you forbid dynamic memory).
>>> 
>>> I think the discussion has strayed too much from what sparked it, which is 
>>> a hitpiece with 8 untruths about Python and Rexx. Yes we like all languages 
>>> to be available, and well maintained on z/OS. Please provide interfaces and 
>>> precompilers for the main infrastructure. It is remarkably odd that IBM 
>>> does not invest in the things that made the platform what it is, but it is 
>>> not my problem. If the message is that the mainframe now can run the same 
>>> software as the Raspberry Pi or your generic AWS instance, so be it.
>>> 
>>> I think you will find that other people are emotionally attached to their 
>>> tools and programming languages, it is a human thing. Also, I found that 
>>> not all people can easily switch between a large number of ever-changing 
>>> programming languages; which is meant as a compliment to you; but 
>>> nevertheless very true.
>>> 
>>> So I thank you all for a very interesting discussion.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> René. 
>>> 
> On 7 Jan 2022, at 20:53, David Crayford  wrote:
 
 I could go on. Even Java supports functional programming since Java 1.8 
 and which introduced the streams API. It's unusual to see and old school 
 loop in modern Java code. Even C++ has lambda's.
 
 I missed "closures" on my list which code hand in hand with "functions as 
 first class objects". Very powerful, for example in Kotlin you can easily 
 create type safe builders (DSLs) 
 https://kotlinlang.org/docs/type-safe-builders.html.
 That's why I have absolutely no interest in NetRexx. I have far better 
 options on the JVM. I don't get emotionally attached to programming 
 languages. If a better one becomes available I will quite happily switch 
 as I have done
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Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

[W Mainframe]

I liked Seymour comment about ISPF and Xedit... In a new Super Mainframe 
Modernization we will need to use Visual Studio Code? Ohhh gizzz


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I'm reminded of the great ISPF versus XEDIT war. Both have useful features that 
the other lacks.


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Me neither. We all had to program in lots of different languages and maybe not 
having the same assembler record as Seymour, I remember asm-f, asmh, hlasm, 
masm and ALP for sure. The difference is that C and C++ are just work, but for 
me, Prolog, Rexx and NetRexx are actually a joy to program in. It is not for no 
reason that Rexx has a Rexx Language Association.

Where I draw the line is when reading an article full of misconceptions and 
falsehoods, that is intentionally picking on another language, which I happen 
to like. It could have just been: “I like Python and at long bloody last it 
runs more or less on z/OS. Huzza!”.
No, it gives us falsehoods and irrational line of argument, and then professes 
not to knock Rexx, which is about the 9th lie (I do not count more than one per 
paragraph). Have your Python and be happy with it. Don’t knock Rexx and at the 
same time hobble the careers of young people and tell them now they have to 
learn less to be proficient on the platform. No, they now need to learn a lot 
more.

To be fair, I am enormously grateful to the person that ported Git to z/OS - 
thank you! I don’t mind there being some Python in it.

Best regards,

René.

> On 20 Dec 2021, at 14:41, Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>
> I see nothing wrong with being emotionally attached to a programming language 
> as long as you remain intellectually honest. IMHO, if you can't identify 
> flaws in your preferred language then you don't understand it. If you can't 
> recognize a task where, e.g., Perl, is a better tool than, e.g., OREXX, then 
> you have a problem.
>
> That cuts both ways. I hate, lathe and despise C, but I once defended it 
> against what I considered unjust criticism.
>
> REXX has gotten better in your lifetime; IBM has failed to pick up some new 
> features from ANSI and has abandoned new features from OREXX. The folks at 
> RexxLA have language that TSO and CMS don't.
>
> Six languages doesn't strike me as a lot; I know more assemblers than that. 
> My position is that the CS curriculum should stress learning multiple, 
> radically different, langages rather than the language du jour.
>
>
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> 
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> David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 9:23 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS
>
> On 20/12/21 8:42 pm, René Jansen wrote:
>> Yes, that is what NetRexx is for.
>
> TBH, I'm not interested in NetRexx. It suffers from the same weaknesses
> as classic REXX in that it only has one data type. The NetRexx manual
> has examples of dynamically calling a JavaScript engine to parse JSON
> which is totally lame. If I were to use a JVM language other than Java I
> would choose Kotlin which is strongly typed and has null safety baked in
> and cool features such as co-routines. REXX is impoverished and it's not
> going to get any better in my lifetime. Never get emotionally attached
> to a programming language. In my career I've programmed professionally
> in at least 6 languages and I would happily switch if a better one
> became available. Python has 47M downloads on the VS Code marketplace
> which is an indication of it's popularity and why IBM have invested in
> bringing it to z/OS.
>
>
>>> On 20 Dec 2021, at 04:37, David Crayford  wrote:
>>>
>>> There's a Python client library for Kafka but it would be a very heavy lift 
>>> to implement a client on z/OS using REXX.
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Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

[W Mainframe]

Excellent questions Paul... :)What I do with my extensive Rexx playground??

Dan


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On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 08:32:11 -0500, Mark Regan wrote:

>Some of you may have already seen this since it was also shared on
>LinkedIn, which is where I saw it.
>
>https://medium.com/theropod/top-8-reasons-for-using-python-instead-of-rexx-for-z-os-a6b67f8210a6
>
Does it support ADDRESS SYSCALL?

Does it support ADDRESS ISREDIT?

Does it support ADDRESS ISPF?

Does it provide alternatives for many constructs where Rexx uses compound
symbols?  Not merely associative arrays but also related OS interfaces such
as OUTTRAP?

Does it support regular expressions?

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Re: Mainframe Modernization

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I am involved in a project to bring some z/OS products to Zowe. IMHO it sounds 
like "put lipstick on pig" (a term from my country). I hate this idea.
Many tiers to access a simple TSO resource or program... Angular... Java... 
JSON... Python... Webserver... and my mainframe application is a good Rexx, 
PL/X and low level routines with ISPF showing popups, menus, colors and 
browsers... :)
Long life to TSO... CMS.. :)
My contractor's justification is to bring young people to mainframe world 
trough new technologies.
Of course... This is only my opinion.
Dan


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On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 7:49 AM, Rich Smrcina 
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That’s a very good point, Tony.

Rich Smrcina


> On Oct 20, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Tony Thigpen  wrote:
> 
> It's a magic salesman word.
> 
> A few years ago, it meant moving the mainframe workload to PC using a PC 
> based Cobol. Later it meant moving to the cloud.
> 
> Anytime you hear the word, it means "I have some snake oil to sell you where 
> I can get rich even if the project fails."
> 
> Be aware that while it sounds almost the same, the term "Application 
> Modernization" usually means good/legitimate things like adding a web 
> front-end or a better database back-end.
> 
> "Mainframe Modernization" is bad, "Application Modernization" is good. 
> (Normally.)
> 
> Tony Thigpen
> 
> David Elliot wrote on 10/20/21 6:50 PM:
>> Does anyone out there know what is meant by the expression "Mainframe
>> Modernization' '? It seems  to be catching on with the Bobs but when you
>> ask exactly how they propose to modernize their systems all you get is
>> silence. As in if you don"know we shouldn't even be talking about it.
>> Any ideas ? Or is it just more BS like 'cloud' or 'devops'?
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Re: Pronunciations (spun off of another thread)

[W Mainframe]

Phil,
About brazilians.. :)
We use to say : "siks"
Dan

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On Sunday, May 9, 2021, 3:57 AM, Meir Zohar  wrote:

CICS pronounced Chicks/Thicks in Italy/Spain ... 
Took a moment to figure out what the speaker was talking about ... 

MZ 

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Hi Bob,
This reminds me of a story.
Back in 2000, I was doing an ACF2 to RACF conversion and one of the customer's 
people kept saying Ra-Keff (instead of Rack-Eff.) This REALLY got on my nerves.

As an aside, a former colleague (with a British accent) always says ZOSS 
(instead of Zed-Oh-Ess or Zee-Oh-Ess).
(He's not really British.)

Have you ever heard ANYONE say IMZ (instead of Eye-Emm-Ess)?

Regards,
David

On 2021-05-08 17:02, Bob Bridges wrote:
> I grew up with "doss" and "see-eye-see-ess", but even here in the East I've 
> heard "kicks" often enough that I can adjust now if that's what the current 
> crowd uses.  Actually I think sysprogs say "kicks" more than application 
> programmers, for some reason.
>
> I've heard "sicks" just once, I believe, but I don't remember where the 
> speaker was from.
>
> "Rack-eff", of course, so I guess I could excuse either "pee-rack-eff" or 
> "prack-eff".  Dunno what it is, though.
>
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>
> (I'm also from Southern Ontario -- I say doss and cics.)
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Re: And the survey says...

[W Mainframe]

Radoslaw,
The Brazilian government adopted this "open" solution due to high costs of 
TN3270 emulators availables in our country.It is a good option and has Rexx 
support for macros.
Dan


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On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 12:22 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 
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The github for pw3270 is here:

https://github.com/PerryWerneck/pw3270

Safer than the government site Radoslaw posted, which my company's net nanny 
software prevented me from accessing because there are certificate problems.

Peter

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Advertisement:
Apart from x3270 family (wc3270, wx3270...) there is another *free* emulator.
It is pw3270
PW is Perry Werneck.
github.com/PerryWerneck/pw3270
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://softwarepublico.gov.br/social/pw3270/__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!dpaA7q1qdSGtk8gMhBSNqPc1t_tsI6nwNUdS5YsYYDp7PetWBlyJPreC-fHXsIX6iFJ9nQ$
 

BTW: The last page is interesting - government official page with free software.

Of course I get 10% of purchase price ;-)

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Re: RES: And the survey says...

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Vista is perfect, but x3270 is widely used mainly it runs in different OSes... 
Useful!But what I really love is my IBM 3476 as a 9401-150 terminal (OS/400) 
emulating a 3270 session... The keyboard noise sounds like Chopin!
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Vista TN3270 by Tom Brennan


Carlos Bodra
IBM zEnterprise Certified
São Paulo – SP – Brazil


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Assunto: And the survey says...

Classification: Confidential

What 3270 emulator are you using?

I (and my colleagues) have been using PCOMM as our 3270 emulator by corporate
edict.
Corporate has removed PCOMM from the available list of emulators, hence this
survey (survey ends Fri. Apr 30 @ COB).

Since we have to go through a procurement process, we want to obtain the optimal
product.
I am aware of the usual suspects and have them on my short list.

Responses can be posted on-list or directly to me.

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Re: RES: Old 3278 terminal

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Thank you Carlos ans Radoslaw!It is like an adventure to get an item like 
this.. :(I will keep in my journey!
Dan


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On Friday, April 23, 2021, 6:23 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka  
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I could find some, but it is definitely far from Brasil.
I would ask second hand equipment suppliers.


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W dniu 15.04.2021 o 16:26, Bodra - Pessoal pisze:
> Maybe Computer Museum have it.
>
>
> Carlos Bodra
> IBM zEnterprise Certified
> São Paulo – SP – Brazil
>
>
> -Mensagem original-
> De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  Em nome de W 
> Mainframe
> Enviada em: quinta-feira, 15 de abril de 2021 11:11
> Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Assunto: Old 3278 terminal
>
> Guys,Does anyone in Brazil have an old 3278 terminal (running) for donation 
> or selling?Thank youDan
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Guys,Does anyone in Brazil have an old 3278 terminal (running) for donation or 
selling?Thank youDan


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Re: [External] Multiprise 3000 models

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One more "secret model"... I have a P30 model...


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On Sunday, March 28, 2021, 12:47 AM, Pommier, Rex  
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IIRC, the H55 and H75 were the equivalent generation 9672 machines that got 
tagged as Multiprise 3000 to get them out at a lower price point.

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Subject: [External] Multiprise 3000 models

(It is historical, but still on-topic)

Some sources say there are three MP 3000 models:
7060-H30
7060-H50
7060-H70
H30 and H50 had 1 CP, H70 had two.

However HCD dialog showed also device type 3000. AFAIR it was 3000-A10 and 
3000-A20.
I also found them described as "Multiprise 3000 Starter Pack".

Question: are they just different names of 7060's or another machines?


BTW: I also found information about "secret models" 7060-H55 and 7060-H75. But 
no entry in any CPC list.

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Re: Multiprise 3000 Array problems

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Scott,
Sounds interesting, but also sounds like not working... :)


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  Just wondering, but has anyone tried attaching IDE disk Drives to the MP 
3000?  If so how well did it work?

Scott
    On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 1:44:22 PM EDT, Tom Conley 
 wrote:  
 
 On 3/17/2021 12:38 PM, W Mainframe wrote:
> Thanks Joe...I will check these steps...
> 
> 
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> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 12:59 PM, Joe Monk  wrote:
> 
> https://www.mail-archive.com/ibm-main@listserv.ua.edu/msg89735.html
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 8:53 AM W Mainframe <
> 01304632a58d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Guys,Recently I bought a Multiprise 3000. It is an old dream to fill my
>> hardware shelf... :) The OS/2 is ok... The Software Element is ok... I can
>> perform lot of SE tasks. I can IPL a z/os 1.1 in emulated disks. But I
>> can't use the array! :(I verified this fail in my array. My SD20 was
>> showing a problem, red status. It was showing 0GB, but its lights are
>> blinking and ok. I bought a new harddisk and replaced defective SD20.After
>> the replacement, I am still getting same status of old SD20. Is there any
>> procedure in hardware level to be done? Any utility to rebuild this array?I
>> would appreciate any help or suggestion!Thank youDaniel
>>

Daniel,

I have  performed this action on an Integrated Server, and my own P390. 
  I'm not sure how the Multiprise works, but you want to look for a 
message or flowerbox on the screen that the disk array manager is coming 
up.  There should be an option like Ctrl-A or something to being up the 
array manager setup software.  Since you've already replaced the 
defective drive, you've got to rebuild the array in the array manager 
software.

Good luck,
Tom Conley

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Thanks Joe...I will check these steps... 


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Joe

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 8:53 AM W Mainframe <
01304632a58d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Guys,Recently I bought a Multiprise 3000. It is an old dream to fill my
> hardware shelf... :) The OS/2 is ok... The Software Element is ok... I can
> perform lot of SE tasks. I can IPL a z/os 1.1 in emulated disks. But I
> can't use the array! :(I verified this fail in my array. My SD20 was
> showing a problem, red status. It was showing 0GB, but its lights are
> blinking and ok. I bought a new harddisk and replaced defective SD20.After
> the replacement, I am still getting same status of old SD20. Is there any
> procedure in hardware level to be done? Any utility to rebuild this array?I
> would appreciate any help or suggestion!Thank youDaniel
>
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Guys,Recently I bought a Multiprise 3000. It is an old dream to fill my 
hardware shelf... :) The OS/2 is ok... The Software Element is ok... I can 
perform lot of SE tasks. I can IPL a z/os 1.1 in emulated disks. But I can't 
use the array! :(I verified this fail in my array. My SD20 was showing a 
problem, red status. It was showing 0GB, but its lights are blinking and ok. I 
bought a new harddisk and replaced defective SD20.After the replacement, I am 
still getting same status of old SD20. Is there any procedure in hardware level 
to be done? Any utility to rebuild this array?I would appreciate any help or 
suggestion!Thank youDaniel

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Looking for an old OSVS Cobol II v1.3

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Guys,
I am planning to revival an old application written in OSVS Cobol II v1.3 (it's 
important the correct release) for VMSP rel5 in my P370... Unfortunately my 
cobol mdisk has some crc errors, I can't read it and there is no backup... 
:(Anyone has this compiler available? There is no comercial focus... 
ThanksDan

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Multiprise 3000

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Guys,Any suggestion about a small storage unit for a Multiprise 3000 
(7060-P30)? I am just looking for internal ssa disks... But seems they are 
hidden... :)
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Multiprise 3000

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Guys,Any small ESCON storage suggestion for a 7060-P30 model (Multiprise 3000). 
Something really small.. a physical issue.. not logical..Thank youDan


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Multiprise 3000 or maybe...

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You guys in Brazil... Anyone has a Multiprise series for selling?ThanksDan


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Re: VSE related questions - VSAMIO on VSE

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Lovely VSE...I am still working on different VSE projects and I am sirry about 
no Java available. Would be a great improvement...Talking about VSAM, you know 
just think about Clusters.. Indexes.. Record keys Lol
RegardsDan


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On Saturday, February 29, 2020, 1:01 AM, Bernd Oppolzer 
 wrote:

Very interesting, all that.

I am living just about 10 km from Boeblingen.
I was a MVS guy until some weeks ago (well, I worked with VSE in the 
early 1990s,
but never since). I almost never had the need to deal with VSAM files, 
because
all my customers used DB2. Now, all is different. I feel suddenly pushed 
back in the 1990s :-)
30 years younger :-)

Couldn't imagine that my questions would start such a discussion :-)

Have a nice day,
thank you

Bernd


Am 28.02.2020 um 23:58 schrieb Tony Thigpen:
> Just for the record, the REXX developer for IBM in 2001 was Ursula 
> Braun-Krahl. I believe she retired.
>
> Tony Thigpen
>
>
>
> Tony Thigpen wrote on 2/28/20 5:51 PM:
>> There have been a lot of cases where z/OS was behind z/VSE.
>>
>> First, a CA level backup/restore program for VSAM that was offered to 
>> z/OS but they turned it down. Much faster than EXPORT/IMPORT and even 
>> faster than CA-Faver. We have had it since the early 80's.
>>
>> Second, we support FBA and SCSI disk.
>>
>> Third, the JES2 support for virtual printers/punches is missing a lot 
>> of things that POWER on VSE supports. This causes me a lot of work 
>> when I do a z/VSE to z/OS conversion.
>>
>> Historically, we have had NJE over TCP/IP for many years before it 
>> was added to JES2.
>>
>> We actually had TCP/IP available on VSE before there was any offering 
>> for z/OS.
>>
>> We have had real data-at-rest, field level, automated encryption 
>> since 2006. (This is actually one of my products.)
>>
>> Yes, there is a lot of stuff z/OS has that VSE does not, but that 
>> does not mean VSE does not have some stuff z/OS does not have.
>>
>> BTW, it is my understanding that REXX/VSAMIO on VSE was written by 
>> Boeblingen as a white-room project that did not use any of the Armonk 
>> stuff. Boeblingen had a real sharp REXX developer back in 2001 (yes! 
>> 2001, 19 years ago). The z/VSE VSAMIO routine will even read/write 
>> CICS files via cross-partition communications using CICS as a 
>> FOR/DOR. And, it's all IBM code that could be ported to z/OS is the 
>> z/OS developers would get off their high-horses and ask for the code.
>>
>> Tony Thigpen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Farley, Peter x23353 wrote on 2/28/20 5:11 PM:
>>> Dang it, how is it that the fine VSE developers in Boeblingen can 
>>> get permission from Armonk to provide VSAMIO for REXX/VSE but users 
>>> of z/OS REXX have to install the open-source RXVSAM package to 
>>> enable dealing directly with VSAM files from REXX programs?
>>>
>>> <*Grumble*>
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
>>> Behalf Of Bernd Oppolzer
>>> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 4:50 PM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>> Subject: Re: VSE related questions
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your valuable advice.
>>>
>>> I already found many of the answers to my questions, and some books:
>>>
>>> REXX for VSE:
>>> https://www-05.ibm.com/e-business/linkweb/publications/servlet/pbi.wss?CTY=US=SRX=SC33-6642-09
>>>  
>>>
>>> User's Guide for Barnard FTP:
>>> ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/s390/zos/vse/pdf3/ipv6vse/iesipu41.pdf
>>>
>>> REXX VSAMIO and some examples in the FTP user's guide answered all 
>>> my questions a) to d) I will try all this next week at my customer's 
>>> site.
>>>
>>> (both REXX EXECIO and FTP can work with VSE libraries directly, 
>>> which is still more interesting for my use case)
>>>
>>> Thank you again,
>>> kind regards
>>>
>>> Bernd
>>> 
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P370/390

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Guys,Is there any active discussion list about P370 and P390? I found some but 
seems there is no any acitivity.
Thank youDan

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Re: $HASP568 - Connect to a Unkown APPL

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Gilson,
Did you set up this major node in vtam tables?
Dan


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Dear list:

  We have configured an NJE connection using the following statements in JES2 
PARM:

APPL(APPL01)  NODE=31 

CONNECT  NODEA=1,MEMBA=1,NODEB=31,MEMBB=1

N(31)  NAME=NODE01,PATHMGR=YES,CONNECT=(YES,30)

 In VTAMLST we have the following definitions:

        VBUILD  TYPE=CDRSC  
          NETWORK NETID=NETB
APPL01    CDRSC  ==> Remote Node

My NETID is NETA
              VBUILD  TYPE=APPL                    
LCLNJE11  APPL    VPACING=5,AUTH=ACQ,          
              DLOGMOD=JESMODE,MODETAB=JES2MODE



I'm receiving the message $HASP568 with the following content:

$HASP568 NODE=NODE01 - AUTOMATIC CONNECT (APPL=NODE01)

and VTAM messages with sense code 087D0001 with the following contents:

IST663I  INIT OTHER REQUEST              FAILED  , SENSE=087D0001  
IST664I  REAL  OLU=NETA.LCLNJE11    ALIAS DLU=NETA.NODE01    

I'd like to know why the connection retry is using node name instead of APPL 
name as defined in JES2 parm ??

We are at z/OS V2R2.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Regards,

Gilson Cesar

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M3000 parts

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Guys,
Does anyone in Brazil is still running (or not) a Multiprise 3000 7060-Hxx?
Thank youDan

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COBOL VS

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Guys,
Anyone is running an old Cobol OSVS (famous AM/RM 24). :)
Thank youDan


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Re: Mini recovery system build

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Tony,
I believe Mark Zelden website has lot of scripts for building mini systems.
Dan


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On Wednesday, April 4, 2018, 9:20 AM, Tony Thigpen  wrote:

I have been tasked with bringing our mini recovery system to a more 
current level. It's 'way back there', it's actually pre-z/OS.

Our current production system is z/OS 1.13.

Can anybody point me to a power-point or other document that I can use 
as a guide for this process?

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Re: Is this possible to expand only one row in table display?

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Hello,
I am not sure if it is possible using TBDISPL service. I am able to do that 
using dynamic area in panels. Of course, more work, more controls...
Dan


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On Monday, February 12, 2018, 3:39 PM, ITschak Mugzach  
wrote:

Tried that. it does show as two lines including cases where the second line
is empty.  I wonder how can I suppress empty lines displayed using TBDISPL
service

ITschak

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Carmen Vitullo  wrote:

> ITschak, logically I think that works, but I wonder if initially the
> row's, even if the data is not presented without the "+" would not the row
> still display as 2 rows
> if I am understaing correctly using the )MODEL CLEAR(xx) panel option
> may be what you're looking for ?
>
>
> I've done similar but using one row - I've never tried expanding beyond
> that
>
>
>
> +---
>
>
> )MODEL CLEAR(SELECT) ROWS(ALL)
>
>
> @Z+ #DDNAME #DSN #DISP1 #DISP2+
>
>
> )INIT
>
>
> .ZVARS='(SELECT)'
>
>
> )END
>
> Carmen Vitullo
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "ITschak Mugzach" 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 9:43:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Is this possible to expand only one row in table display?
>
> Carmen,
>
> I may not explained my issue the problem is "HOW". I can think of one
> option that i'll try later today that goes like this:
>
> - remember crp
> - add name to table row with a value coppied from a real NAMES variable
> - The panel )model section should always be defined with two rows, The
> first that I want to display and the second is has the addded name to row.
> This way only one row will have this variable.
> - at end, update the variable defined at NAMES and delete the name from
> varlist.
>
> I hope there is a better, more elegant way that will allow doing that.
>
> ITschak
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Carmen Vitullo 
> wrote:
>
> > If the ISPF application is your own you can do what you want. you have to
> > code the dialog to take an action when the user puts a plus sign in the
> > line operator '_' much like the ISPF ISMF dialog.
> > I'm not sure if the table row display (PANEL) can be altered once
> > displayed without a new table panel being displayed based on the + line
> > operator, I've not designed any ISPF applications for a while, maybe you
> > can.
> > I would think you'd need to perform a TBDISPL with a panel LIKE the panel
> > you are presenting, with the additional fields, keeping the current row
> > position, then once the - minus sign or END command is entered, you'd go
> > back to the original display.
> > this would be a good exercise and I'm sure some folks that still develop
> > ISPF applications would know for sure.
> >
> > Carmen Vitullo
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >
> > From: "ITschak Mugzach" 
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 8:57:02 AM
> > Subject: Is this possible to expand only one row in table display?
> >
> > Assume I am listing datasets ip OPT3.4. It is an ISPF table (DSLx).
> > also assume I have access to code. I would like to enter a plus sign in
> > front of a tbe entry and get the rest of the rows listed bebind the row,
> > without affecting the other rows display (of course they mill move down.
> > When I click '-' is will close the display. Is this possible with Table
> > display? I know how to do that with dynamic areas but it is a more
> > complex.
> >
> > ​Thanks for your ideas.​
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SFTP

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Come on.For years FTP works Now... Every OS needs to upgrade for 
SFTP?Only now, this protocol is unsure One more stupid option... bla. bla 
bla



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Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

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What really matter the difference between Db2 and DB2? I see the same result in 
my SQL SELET... Come on!


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On Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 9:50 AM, Mohammad Khan  
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 21:04:45 +0800, David Crayford  wrote:

>On 31/10/2017 8:34 PM, John McKown wrote:
>
>What genius at IBM decided it was a good idea to re-brand DB2 to Db2?
>We've got loads of documentation that references DB2. Should we spend
>time and money changing our doco or leave it as it is? How is Db2
>better? It's beyond me why IBM do things like this! DB2 was fine, why
>change it? If this is an attempt to modernize DB2 then it so far off the
>mark it's crazy!
>

Well ... marketing guys need to justify their jobs too :) Why management buys 
into that is another discussion.

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Re: Transfer a large number of sequential file from mainframe to redhat linux V6.5

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A suggestion...Could be better or not... You could try... Convert your volume 
to a cckd image using Hercules utilies. Once they are converted, you will be 
take advantage of compression and time to this transfer. I did same thing some 
thing, with success. Btw there is one a problem, you need to move your datasets 
to a same volume.. Make sense?

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On Thursday, October 12, 2017, 12:21 AM, Paul Gilmartin 
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 10:42:25 +0800, ibmmain wrote:
>
>  We will transfer a large number of sequential file from mainframe to redhat 
>linux V6.5.
>
>Normally we use FTP or XCOM to transfer file.
>
> Could you tell us wherther there is the best way to transfer file  from 
> mainframe to redhat linux V6.5 for 
> 
Are the files Classic data sets or z/OS UNIX files?

Are the files binary or text?

If binary, does it matter if record boundaries are lost?

If text, are you sure the have no embedded control characters which
may introduce spurious line breaks?

Do they have embedded packed decimal data which need special treatment?

There's little to be done with program objects/load modules.

Might the files be NFS mounted on Linux?

>saving the trsnsfer's time ? for example :compress file on mainframe +transfer 
>the file +uncompress file on Linux.
> 
Which compression technique(s)  are  you considering?

For UNIX files only, pax will perform EBCDIC-->ASCII conversion (large
variety of code pages) and has a compression option compatible with Linux.

.zip is fairly portable.  You may find a port of zip to z/OS that meets your 
needs
and can be extracted on Redhat.

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Re: Wanted: IBM 7060...

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Ian,
That's my dream... :)


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On Monday, September 18, 2017, 9:03 PM, Ian Finder  wrote:

Apologies if this is the wrong venue for this ask-

I saw some posts from a few years back where people were clearing these
out, and I thought I might try my luck to see if anyone has one they're
willing to part with.

There is one on eBay at the moment, but it's a little too rich for me.

Thanks,

- Ian

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OT I5 Server

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Guys,Is there any AS400 Hardware Support available for a question?Thank youDan


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Info and Orlando

[W Mainframe]

Guys,I am on vacation in Orlando. Does anyone know some place to buy IBM parts 
of ISeries and PSeries?
Thank youDan


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Old Oses

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 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
!important; } Guys,
Does anyone is running an old VMSP Release 6?
RegardsDan


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Re: ES/9000 microcode

[W Mainframe]

 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
!important; } Hey Will,
I am curious...What is your OS running in your big iron?Dan


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On Wednesday, May 31, 2017, 7:19 PM, William Donzelli  
wrote:

So this idiot just purchased an 9221 system from Tennessee (apparently
it was still in service two years ago, and is in wonderful condition),
and I made damn sure that the console with the IMPL tape was included.
I even tracked down the machine's former admin just to be sure. I am
going to tell him to guard that tape with his life.

The processor is either a model 191 or 421. How similar is the
microcode between other 9221 types? There are at least a few 9221s of
various models out in collections that currently have the processing
power of potted plants, simply because no one bothered to save the
microcode.

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Legacy product

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Guys,
Anyone is still running old CSP 3.3 workload in CICS/VSE?
Thank youDan

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Multiprise 3000

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 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
!important; } Anyone has a Multiprise and is planning to sell it?I need one to 
backup parts.
Thank youDan


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Re: Old MVS/SP

[W Mainframe]

 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
!important; } Dave,
My idea is running a MVS/SP as a VM guest. Reasonable?
Dan
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On Friday, December 23, 2016, 09:19, Dave Wade <dave.g4...@gmail.com> wrote:

>You might want to look here:
>
>http://hercules-390.github.io/html/

Notwithstanding the I don't believe that Hercules implements the necessary 
assists to IPL MVS/SP natively, which is what you were told when you asked on 
the Hercules-390 list some time ago...

Dave Wade


>Am 22.12.2016 um 17:14 schrieb W Mainframe:
>  blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
>#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
>!important; } Guys,
> Anyone is running a MVS/SP in some kind of emulator?
> Dan
>
>
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Best regards
Mike

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Re: ASMA032E Relocatable value or unresolved symbol found when absolute value required

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 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
!important; } Charles,
Maybe because your CSECT has not a USING for relocatable symbols.. If you use 
an absolute value for an instruction you don't need any relocatable value..
Could be a reason...
Dan

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On Tuesday, December 27, 2016, 23:01, Charles Mills  wrote:

Why won't this assemble?

SOME  CSECT
      LLILF 2,FOO
OTHER CSECT
FOO  EQU  *

Why do I get ASMA032E Relocatable value or unresolved symbol found when
absolute value required - FOO?

Can't the assembler generate a relocatable address constant for the
immediate operand of LLILF? Or am I doing something stupid that I am not
seeing?

DC A(FOO) at the same spot assembles with no problem. I could presumably
code DC X'C02F',AL4(FOO) and it would execute correctly.

Charles 

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Old MVS/SP

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#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
!important; } Guys,
Anyone is running a MVS/SP in some kind of emulator? 
Dan


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Re: P370-L [was: p370 & p390]

[W Mainframe]

I do..Can we talk off forum?Regards

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  On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 20:06, Norman Hollander on 
Desertwiz<norman.hollan...@desertwiz.biz> wrote:   Do you have the IBM Redbook 
for P370/P390?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Neil Duffee
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 1:47 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: P370-L [was: p370 & p390]

I have the following snippet from the listserv that you could use...

To: L-Soft list server at Princeton University (1.8e) 
<lists...@lists01.princeton.edu>
Subject: Re: SUBSCRIBE p370-l  

SUBSCRIBE p370-l  

-Original Message-
From: W Mainframe [mailto:mainfra...@yahoo.com]
Sent: December 14, 2016 12:47
Subject: p370 & p390

Guys,I am looking for people who is running a P390 or P370 for IBM parts and 
features.Thank youDAN


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p370 & p390

[W Mainframe]

Guys,I am looking for people who is running a P390 or P370 for IBM parts and 
features.Thank youDAN

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P500

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Guys,Anyone has a old VMSP rel 5/6 Express running with a complete set of 
compilers?My original P500 medias doesn't read anymore.Thank youDan

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Old software

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#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
!important; } Guys,Does anyone has an old copy of vmsp rel5 ou 6 running an old 
VS COBOL II (PN 5668-958)? Thank youDan


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Re: Going from CICS TS 3.2 to 5.2 may I use the 3.2 SVC's

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#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
!important; } The SVC is an erly code and shoud be installed to keep 
compatibility between different versions, always highest level installed.
Dan


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On Wednesday, September 7, 2016, 19:52, John Mattson  
wrote:

Not making clear sense of the IBM Documentation here,
I am going from CICS TS 3.2 to 5.2 on a single CICS region, no MRO, no
CICSPLEX, just one simple LPAR and REGION.
Can I just use the SVC's from 3.2 or should I re-install the DFHCSVC and
DFHHPSVC ?

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VSCOB2 (5668-958)

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Guys,
My P370 is running a VMSP rel5. I have many licensed compilers but 
unfortunately my VS COBOL II mdisk is failing. I've tried to restore this mdisk 
from original CDs but this media is failing too, same problem.. :(Anyone has 
this compiler and could share with me? I have more than 4000 VSCOB2 sources. I 
just need a vmarc, or an AWS tape.

Thank youDan


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