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> Does anyone know for sure how long V2R3 will remain orderable? My guess
> would be end of September 2019 when 2.4 goes GA?
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> Sorry, my question was sort of buried under
sterman
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I don't know what you are basing the historical accuracy of this on. I perform
these conversions literally all the time and I have not (even once) come across
a fallback issue
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I don't know what you are basing the historical accuracy of this on. I perform
these conversions literally all the t
I don't know what you are basing the historical accuracy of this on. I perform
these conversions literally all the time and I have not (even once) come across
a fallback issue or a scenario that wasn't supported especially with respect to
the OP's question.
As I have stated many times,
Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4 [EXTERNAL]
Not between 2.1 and 2.4. The incompatibilities are between JES level sets.
Those kinds of problems (when things are actively shared through the sysplex)
are where being a sysplex can make a difference, the solution in those cases is
that you end up
Not between 2.1 and 2.4. The incompatibilities are between JES level sets.
Those kinds of problems (when things are actively shared through the sysplex)
are where being a sysplex can make a difference, the solution in those cases is
that you end up with two sysplexes for the duration of your
You are mixing a problem that can happen from adding a single APAR at any time.
It's not really applicable to the length of the (long or short) JUMP. A stand
alone LPAR (which this OP has) is not going to be incompatible in a way that
makes installing an intermediate level make any sense.
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Well, you know what they say about assumptions. That definitely applies to
your assumptions here. How did
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> Does anyone know for sure how long V2R3 will remain ord
Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4 [EXTERNAL]
I believe this link is still valid
https://www.ibm.com/support/home/pages/lifecycle/?from=index_a
Carmen Vitullo
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I believe this link is still valid
https://www.ibm.com/support/home/pages/lifecycle/?from=index_a
Carmen Vitullo
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Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4
I have not checked, but that is consistent with prior IBM practices.
If you want z/OS 2.3 order immediately!
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Does anyone know for sure how long V2R3 will remain orderable? My guess would
be end of September 2019 when 2.4 goes GA?
Sorry, my question was sort of buried underneath a previous reply.
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Well, you know what they say about assumptions. That definitely applies to
your assumptions here. How did you get into ACM, did
Two DASD incompatibilities I know of from OS/390. Dropping ISAM and
adding EAVs DSCBs to the VTOC. PDSE V2 I'm not sure of. Possibly the
various extended attributes. Drop the ISAM first and don't use the
new facilities until you are certain you don't need to go back.
On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at
Well, you know what they say about assumptions. That definitely applies to
your assumptions here. How did you get into ACM, did you buy a membership or
something?:)
I really don't mean to sound flippant or like I'm trying to degrade your
abilities or anything, but you don't seriously believe
Since no one else has said it, aren't you are forgetting your entire
DASD farm with all its system control block structures embedded within
VTOCs, VVDSs, Catalogs, JES datasets, and some other individual data
sets? DASD "Sharing" doesn't just have to be within a sysplex, because
sharing
SMPE with current HOLDDATA received:
REPORT MISSINGFIX ZONES()
FIXCAT(
IBM.Coexistence.z/OS.V2R2,
IBM.Coexistence.z/OS.V2R3).
Does anyone know for sure how long V2R3 is orderable? My guess would be end
of September 2019 when 2.4 is GA?
Dana
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 17:19:57 +, David
why? He said that there is no sysplex involved, just what is it that he would
not be compatible with in a fall back scenario between 2.1 and 2.4? You would
be pretty hard pressed to find something that would cause them an issue, so
long as the hardware is compatible with 2.4 they are good to
to Local BPs.
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Subject: [EXT] Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4 [EXTERNAL]
ASM is Adabas Parallel Services, I'm not sure why they didn't call it APS
To the OP.
I will concur with the earlier recommendation to (at least) order z/OS 2.3.
Just in case.
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ASM is Adabas Parallel Services, I'm not sure why they didn't call it APS,
but possibly they already had one by that name.
ASM provides Compression, decompression, fo
ASM is Adabas Parallel Services, I'm not sure why they didn't call it APS, but
possibly they already had one by that name.
ASM provides Compression, decompression, format buffer translation, sorting,
retrieving, searching and updating operations all occur in parallel. So it
gives better
30, 2019 10:44 PM
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> Yes, you need to have current maintenance on your old 2.1 system, but your
> ability to fall back based on what you have stated in your response makes it
> so that your fallback (if n
Yes, you need to have current maintenance on your old 2.1 system, but your
ability to fall back based on what you have stated in your response makes it so
that your fallback (if necessary) will not be an issue for you. Depending on
your product mix, I think that SAG might have a simple work
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> Tom,
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> The idea is to apply 2.1 maintenance that would make 2.1 compatible with
> 2.3. Since IBM
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> Tom,
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> The idea is to
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Rex
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On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 10:48:03 +, Feller, Paul wrote:
Would it be a good thing
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On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 10:48:03 +, Feller, Paul wrote:
Would it be a good thing to at least try to get any z/OS
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 10:48:03 +, Feller, Paul wrote:
Would it be a good thing to at least try to get any z/OS 2.3 compatibility
maintenance applied?
What does that mean to someone who is running z/OS 2.1?
You can't apply a z/OS 2.3 PTF to a z/OS 2.1 system.
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I would ask they cover your cost for this as part of their product, since
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