Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
[top posting] Got it. Had to set emulation to Windows 95, not Windows XP. Thanks for the suggestions. -Steve On 10/28/2013 8:11 PM, Steve Comstock wrote: On 10/28/2013 7:28 PM, Lance D. Jackson wrote: Steve, It runs just fine on my Win 8.0 machine. What issues are you having? -Original Message- From: Steve Comstock [mailto:st...@trainersfriend.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 06:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1 Has anybody gotten SPFPRO to run on Windows 8.1 (oreven 8.0, for that matter)?Looks like I'll have to give up one of my favorite tools.Kind regards,-Steve Comstock--For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Well, first I simply copied over the directory containing the program files to my new system. I set up the program properties to run in compatibilty mode for Win XP SP 3. When I launch the progam I get two phenomema: 1) I get prompted if it's OK for this program to make changes to this computer - I reply Yes 2) then I get a system error that the program can't start because SPW32DM.DLL is missing from the computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix the problem [Note: all the DLLs are in the directory containing all the SPFPRO files] --- Now, I have not been successful running any install program from this directory; there are very few candidates: PATCH.EXE PDSUTIL.EXE PRFUPGDW.EXE SETUP.EXE SPFECHO.EXE Spfpro.exe SPW32THK.EXE UPG50.EXE UPGRADE.BAT VOL.EXE When I try any of these (except Spfpro.exe which is described above) I get This App can't run on your PC -- I notice the properties for the icon I use to launch Spfpro.exe says the program is located in C:\Users\SteveComstock\Desktop but I actually put everything in C:\SPFPRO, so that's a mystery. Any suggestions? Thanks. -Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
In vmime.52775d37.1c6.c642028117b26...@dms02.intranet.set-software.de, on 11/04/2013 at 09:39 AM, Michael Knigge michael.kni...@set-software.de said: THE might be a good tool for everyone who needs/likes an ?XEDIT-Clone, but it is a bad choice for everyone who looks for an ISPF-like editor. Sure, and a hammer is a poor choice for everyone who looks for a screwdriver. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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It's hardly fair to judge THE by how well it simulates ISPF/PDF EDIT. Do you have any issues with its XEDIT compatibility? THE might be a good tool for everyone who needs/likes an XEDIT-Clone, but it is a bad choice for everyone who looks for an ISPF-like editor. The behavior is a little bit strange here and there and (last time I tried it) some line and primary commands were missing. IMHO. Bye, Michael -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
In vmime.52711cc5.4ed2.933c6b6363ae3...@dms02.intranet.set-software.de, on 10/30/2013 at 03:50 PM, Michael Knigge michael.kni...@set-software.de said: Do not even think about trying THE (http://hessling-editor.sourceforge.net/). Okay, it supports Rexx, but it does not really feel like the editor under ISPF (ok, to be fair, it is a XEDIT-like editor that can be configured like the ISPF-editor - but not really well) It's hardly fair to judge THE by how well it simulates ISPF/PDF EDIT. Do you have any issues with its XEDIT compatibility? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
I'm running SPF/Pro 5.0 on Windows 8.1 without any problems. For several years now when I upgrade Windows or switch machines I simply copy the SPFPro directory over to the new version/machine. Then I create a shortcut for SPFPROW.EXE on my desktop. You do need to open the shortcuts properties and make sure the shortcut tab shows the proper directory in the 'Start in:' field so it can find its own DLL files. I'm not using any compatibility mode setting and it's running just fine. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
Ah. just one more note. As 64 Bit Versions of Windows are not able to run 16 Bit Executables any more, you may want to give DOSBox (http://www.dosbox.com/) a try if you really can't live without the ancient SPF/PRO or whatever (I assume these old applications are 16 Bit applications - don't know exactly) Bye, Michael -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
W dniu 2013-10-31 13:46, Michael Knigge pisze: Ah. just one more note. As 64 Bit Versions of Windows are not able to run 16 Bit Executables any more, you may want to give DOSBox (http://www.dosbox.com/) a try if you really can't live without the ancient SPF/PRO or whatever (I assume these old applications are 16 Bit applications - don't know exactly) Another solution: z/VM, , that means virtual machine. There are free choices: VirtualBox, VMWare Player and M$ Virtual PC. The last one is available for free, you can also get WinXP image (at least for Win7 *Professional* users). There are other choices, a t least some of them are not free. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, www.brebank.pl, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2013 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.555.904 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
Steve, I've been using SPF/PRO 5.04 for probably over a decade or more. My experience is the same as yours. When I tried it on WIN 8, it failed to start. I forget the symptom, but my PC guru, Frank, says, 64-bit WIN8 expressly prohibits 16-bit programs, and SPF/PRO starts up as a 16-bit program. He goes on to say that SPF/PC should work in 32-bit WIN8. In any case, personally I need SPF/PRO far more than I need WIN8, so for the foreseeable future, I'm keeping my business machines on WIN7. As for SPF/SE, when CTC first came out with it as a replacement for SPF/PRO, I was hugely disappointed. I don't remember all the details, but it was utterly incompatible with SPF/PC in its user interface, and IIRC, it no longer supported REXX as its macro language. Dave Cole ColeSoft Marketing 414 Third Street, NE Charlottesville, VA 22902 EADDRESS: dbc...@colesoft.com Home page: www.colesoft.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/colesoftware YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/colesoftware At 10/28/2013 06:04 PM, Steve Comstock wrote: Has anybody gotten SPFPRO to run on Windows 8.1 (or even 8.0, for that matter)? Looks like I'll have to give up one of my favorite tools. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
Being a Linux bigot (only use Windows at work), I am wondering if there is any documentation on SPFPRO or other ISPF-like environments. In particular, do these products emulate all of ISPF or only the ISPF editor? Can the editor run macros? If so, only REXX or can it use other scripting facilities such as Windows command scripts or maybe even some other scripting language? On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Dave Cole dbc...@gmail.com wrote: Steve, I've been using SPF/PRO 5.04 for probably over a decade or more. My experience is the same as yours. When I tried it on WIN 8, it failed to start. I forget the symptom, but my PC guru, Frank, says, 64-bit WIN8 expressly prohibits 16-bit programs, and SPF/PRO starts up as a 16-bit program. He goes on to say that SPF/PC should work in 32-bit WIN8. In any case, personally I need SPF/PRO far more than I need WIN8, so for the foreseeable future, I'm keeping my business machines on WIN7. As for SPF/SE, when CTC first came out with it as a replacement for SPF/PRO, I was hugely disappointed. I don't remember all the details, but it was utterly incompatible with SPF/PC in its user interface, and IIRC, it no longer supported REXX as its macro language. Dave Cole ColeSoft Marketing 414 Third Street, NE Charlottesville, VA 22902 EADDRESS: dbc...@colesoft.com Home page: www.colesoft.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/colesoftware YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/**colesoftwarehttp://www.youtube.com/user/colesoftware At 10/28/2013 06:04 PM, Steve Comstock wrote: Has anybody gotten SPFPRO to run on Windows 8.1 (or even 8.0, for that matter)? Looks like I'll have to give up one of my favorite tools. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock --**--** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --**--**-- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
At 10/30/2013 09:40 AM, John McKown wrote: Being a Linux bigot (only use Windows at work), I am wondering if there is any documentation on SPFPRO or other ISPF-like environments. In particular, do these products emulate all of ISPF or only the ISPF editor? Can the editor run macros? If so, only REXX or can it use other scripting facilities such as Windows command scripts or maybe even some other scripting language? John, Unfortunately, SPF/PRO was orphaned by CTC when they introduced SPF/SE. As indicated previously, I did not at all like SPF/SE, so I stuck with SPF/PRO. Since SPF/PRO is orphaned, you cannot get it from CTC, and if you, like me, have a legacy copy, you have to put up with a couple of annoying bugs that CTC refuses to fix. Since SPF/PRO has met (and continues to meet) my needs both as a file managed, as a blazingly fast searching tool and as a text editor, I have not extensively investigated alternatives. Dave Cole ColeSoft Marketing 414 Third Street, NE Charlottesville, VA 22902 EADDRESS: dbc...@colesoft.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
I have _no_ desire to obtain SPF/PRO or any other Windows software. I was just curious how much of ISPF it actually mirrors. Only the editor? Editor+macros (what macro languages?)? Complete Display Manager? On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Dave Cole dbc...@gmail.com wrote: At 10/30/2013 09:40 AM, John McKown wrote: Being a Linux bigot (only use Windows at work), I am wondering if there is any documentation on SPFPRO or other ISPF-like environments. In particular, do these products emulate all of ISPF or only the ISPF editor? Can the editor run macros? If so, only REXX or can it use other scripting facilities such as Windows command scripts or maybe even some other scripting language? John, Unfortunately, SPF/PRO was orphaned by CTC when they introduced SPF/SE. As indicated previously, I did not at all like SPF/SE, so I stuck with SPF/PRO. Since SPF/PRO is orphaned, you cannot get it from CTC, and if you, like me, have a legacy copy, you have to put up with a couple of annoying bugs that CTC refuses to fix. Since SPF/PRO has met (and continues to meet) my needs both as a file managed, as a blazingly fast searching tool and as a text editor, I have not extensively investigated alternatives. Dave Cole ColeSoft Marketing 414 Third Street, NE Charlottesville, VA 22902 EADDRESS: dbc...@colesoft.com --**--**-- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
I have _no_ desire to obtain SPF/PRO or any other Windows software. I was just curious how much of ISPF it actually mirrors. Only the editor? Editor+macros (what macro languages?)? Complete Display Manager? SPF/SE is just an editor. The macro language is a C-like language (not Rexx). Further more, you can load self written DLLs from the macro language and invoke funtions of that DLL. Uni-spf tries to emulate (more or less) ISPF under UNIX. It contains an ispf-like environment (so you can write your own panels etc), a Rexx Interpreter and an ISPF-Like Editor. SPFLite is just an Editor. It has no macro language (but you can write a filter - you can pass the editor content to a filter and the output of the filter becomes the new editor content). This is far less powerfull as a real macro language from which you can access every single char/byte of the file in the editor. A free ISPF-like editor is Hybrid Editor XE (http://www.geocities.jp/sakachin2/index.htm). I tried it - and disliked it. :-( But: Impressive is the number of platforms it works on: DOS, OS/2, Windows, AIX, Linux and (no joke!) Android Do not even think about trying THE (http://hessling-editor.sourceforge.net/). Okay, it supports Rexx, but it does not really feel like the editor under ISPF (ok, to be fair, it is a XEDIT-like editor that can be configured like the ISPF-editor - but not really well) My personal favorite is SPF/SE. I need no Rexx - and the C-Like maco language is ok! I use it a lot. There are some gotchas with the editor, the installation is far away from Windows standards and the author is sometimes a little bit picky about what is a bug and what is the expected behavior But mostly we find a solution for a problem that I've found... But hey, I'm waiting for customizable EBCDIC/ASCII Translation tables since Decembre 2008 ;- German Umlauts are lost with the built in original IBM 370 EBCDIC-Codepage Bye, Michael -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
On 30/10/2013 9:55 PM, Dave Cole wrote: At 10/30/2013 09:40 AM, John McKown wrote: Being a Linux bigot (only use Windows at work), I am wondering if there is any documentation on SPFPRO or other ISPF-like environments. In particular, do these products emulate all of ISPF or only the ISPF editor? Can the editor run macros? If so, only REXX or can it use other scripting facilities such as Windows command scripts or maybe even some other scripting language? John, Unfortunately, SPF/PRO was orphaned by CTC when they introduced SPF/SE. As indicated previously, I did not at all like SPF/SE, so I stuck with SPF/PRO. Since SPF/PRO is orphaned, you cannot get it from CTC, and if you, like me, have a legacy copy, you have to put up with a couple of annoying bugs that CTC refuses to fix. Since SPF/PRO has met (and continues to meet) my needs both as a file managed, as a blazingly fast searching tool and as a text editor, I have not extensively investigated alternatives. Slickedit has an ISPF emulation mode with line commands and a command line. It's my editor of choice and has a plethora of blistering fast search options, including incremental search. I set it up for a colleague who uses SPF/PRO for coding assembler. I created a customized project for the Tachyon assembler tool-chain. IIRC, there were some minor differences in some of the key bindings and that was a game changer for him. Because it wasn't exactly the same as SPF he wouldn't use it. I switched to the standard CUA emulation pretty much straight away because I found it more productive than issuing line commands but it's not so easy for guys that have been using ISPF for over 30 years. Dave Cole ColeSoft Marketing 414 Third Street, NE Charlottesville, VA 22902 EADDRESS: dbc...@colesoft.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
In d13168079720cd45a71005fdcc22426f415e3...@retdaymbxp007.legal.regn.net, on 10/29/2013 at 12:26 PM, Klan, Rob (RET-DAY) rob.k...@reedelsevier.com said: Which is the most ISPF like? ObColdDeadFingers Tritus SPF. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
Steve, I don't know what's wrong with SPFPRO on Win 8, but maybe it is time for a change. You may want to have a look at SPF/365 (well known as SPF/SE) that is now selled at a much more reduced price. The subscription for one year is at 25 $ US (you can use it after the year, but you get no more updates and no support)... See http://www.commandtechnology.com/ In my optinion it is much better than SPFLite (http://spflite.co.nr/) (because of the integrated Macro language - I use it a lot!) which is selled at 25 $ US, too. I personally use SPF/SE with the font of Tom Brennan's Vista TN3270 and it looks so fu* great ;-) Bye, Michael -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
digest entry From:Steve Comstock Has anybody gotten SPFPRO to run on Windows 8.1 (or even 8.0, for that matter)? Looks like I'll have to give up one of my favorite tools. SNIPPAGE Steve et al: Because of problems I get when updating Windows, I generally run Windows under VMware on a Linux Host (in my case, almost always a Suse release). Driver problems seem to be minimal, applications that I'm locked into work. And data can be shared so that I can use tools from either system... That said, I upgraded to Suse 12.3. I had been at 11.4 and as I recall, it worked under Wine. I haven't yet tried SPFPRO on 12.3 under Wine. I don't have W8 on any system at this point. Meanwhile, SPF/SE 3.0 works fine under Wine and on W7. You may find that Linux as your base OS works well... Regards, Steve Thompson The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
Hi Which is the most ISPF like? In reviewing Dave'ss page at: http://www.planetmvs.com/spfeditor/ I also learn of uni-SPF by http://www.wrkgrp.com/index.html ? Just curious -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Knigge Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 5:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1 Steve, I don't know what's wrong with SPFPRO on Win 8, but maybe it is time for a change. You may want to have a look at SPF/365 (well known as SPF/SE) that is now selled at a much more reduced price. The subscription for one year is at 25 $ US (you can use it after the year, but you get no more updates and no support)... See http://www.commandtechnology.com/ In my optinion it is much better than SPFLite (http://spflite.co.nr/) (because of the integrated Macro language - I use it a lot!) which is selled at 25 $ US, too. I personally use SPF/SE with the font of Tom Brennan's Vista TN3270 and it looks so fu* great ;-) Bye, Michael -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
Sorry - when I originally replied to Steve's question, I didn't realize that he was running such a dated version of SPFPC. I'm successfully running SPF/SE v6.0 Graphic Edition under Win 8.0 -Original Message- From: Klan, Rob (RET-DAY) [mailto:rob.k...@reedelsevier.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 08:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1 Hi Which is the most ISPF like?In reviewing Dave'ss page at: http://www.planetmvs.com/spfeditor/ I also learn of uni-SPF by http://www.wrkgrp.com/index.html ?Just curious -Original Message-From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael KniggeSent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 5:19 AMTo: ibm-m...@listserv.ua.EDUSubject: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1Steve,I don't know what's wrong with SPFPRO on Win 8, but maybe it is time for a change. You may want to have a look at SPF/365 (well known as SPF/SE) that is now selled at a much more reduced price. The subscription for one year is at 25 $ US (you can use it after the year, but you get no more updates and no support)...See http://www.commandtechnology.com/In my optinion it is much better than SPFLite (http://spflite.co.nr/) (because of the integrated Macro language - I use it a lot!) which is selled at 25 $ US, too. I personally use SPF/SE with the font of Tom Brennan's Vista TN3270 and it looks so fu* great ;-)Bye,Michael--For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN--For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Rob, uni-SPF is much more like ISPF than SPF/SE - due to the fact that SPF/SE is missing REXX Bye, Michael -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
Thanks for that insight Michael. -Original Message- From: Michael Knigge [mailto:michael.kni...@set-software.de] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 09:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1 Rob,uni-SPF is much more like ISPF than SPF/SE - due to the fact that SPF/SE is missing REXXBye,Michael--For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
Is the macro language still C? - Original Message - From: Michael Knigge michael.kni...@set-software.de Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 5:18 AM Subject: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1 Steve, I don't know what's wrong with SPFPRO on Win 8, but maybe it is time for a change. You may want to have a look at SPF/365 (well known as SPF/SE) that is now selled at a much more reduced price. The subscription for one year is at 25 $ US (you can use it after the year, but you get no more updates and no support)... See http://www.commandtechnology.com/ In my optinion it is much better than SPFLite (http://spflite.co.nr/) (because of the integrated Macro language - I use it a lot!) which is selled at 25 $ US, too. I personally use SPF/SE with the font of Tom Brennan's Vista TN3270 and it looks so fu* great ;-) Bye, Michael -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
On 29 Oct 2013 05:28:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Hi Which is the most ISPF like? In reviewing Dave'ss page at: http://www.planetmvs.com/spfeditor/ I also learn of uni-SPF by http://www.wrkgrp.com/index.html ? My recollection of UNI-SPF on HP-UX in 2001-2002 is that it was a mediocre replacement for ISPF/PDF. I would hope there is better. I also believe that for the purpose intended at that shop, supported MVS applications ported HP-UX and UNI-CICS with Micro-Focus COBOL, Easytrieve and SYNCSORT, they would have been better off looking at tools native to the environment as an upgrade to UNI-SPF. Clark Morris Just curious -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Knigge Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 5:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1 Steve, I don't know what's wrong with SPFPRO on Win 8, but maybe it is time for a change. You may want to have a look at SPF/365 (well known as SPF/SE) that is now selled at a much more reduced price. The subscription for one year is at 25 $ US (you can use it after the year, but you get no more updates and no support)... See http://www.commandtechnology.com/ In my optinion it is much better than SPFLite (http://spflite.co.nr/) (because of the integrated Macro language - I use it a lot!) which is selled at 25 $ US, too. I personally use SPF/SE with the font of Tom Brennan's Vista TN3270 and it looks so fu* great ;-) Bye, Michael -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
On 10/28/2013 4:15 PM, Dan Skomsky wrote: I have it running Win 98 mode on Windows 7 Pro 32 bit and tried it successfully on the Windows 8 pre-release 32 bit. Hmm. No luck on win 8.1 64-bit. -Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 5:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1 Has anybody gotten SPFPRO to run on Windows 8.1 (or even 8.0, for that matter)? Looks like I'll have to give up one of my favorite tools. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
On 10/28/2013 11:42 PM, Brian Westerman wrote: Steve, I realize that this isn't exactly the answer you wanted, but While I can get my copy to work on Windows 8.1 (I run it in compatibility mode by right clicking on the executable and choose the compatibility option), I have (as of a couple years ago), moved to SPFLITE (http://www.spflite.com). It supports all versions of Windows. And if you like it you can license a copy for (I think) $25. It's not a bad replacement for CTC's SPF and it's well maintained. If there are any options that you need that aren't there, the author is really good about adding things. I only keep the CTC stuff around now because I'm too careful to throw anything out. I don't get the same problem you are having with the CTC code though, maybe you damaged a module somewhere or maybe it's just the compatibility stuff that you need to do. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN I'll have a look at it. Thanks. -Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
On 10/29/2013 3:18 AM, Michael Knigge wrote: Steve, I don't know what's wrong with SPFPRO on Win 8, but maybe it is time for a change. You may want to have a look at SPF/365 (well known as SPF/SE) that is now selled at a much more reduced price. The subscription for one year is at 25 $ US (you can use it after the year, but you get no more updates and no support)... See http://www.commandtechnology.com/ In my optinion it is much better than SPFLite (http://spflite.co.nr/) (because of the integrated Macro language - I use it a lot!) which is selled at 25 $ US, too. I personally use SPF/SE with the font of Tom Brennan's Vista TN3270 and it looks so fu* great ;-) Bye, Michael -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Thanks, Michael, I'll have a look at it. Kind regards, -Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
[slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
Has anybody gotten SPFPRO to run on Windows 8.1 (or even 8.0, for that matter)? Looks like I'll have to give up one of my favorite tools. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
Steve, It runs just fine on my Win 8.0 machine. What issues are you having? -Original Message- From: Steve Comstock [mailto:st...@trainersfriend.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 06:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1 Has anybody gotten SPFPRO to run on Windows 8.1 (oreven 8.0, for that matter)?Looks like I'll have to give up one of my favorite tools.Kind regards,-Steve Comstock--For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
On 10/28/2013 7:28 PM, Lance D. Jackson wrote: Steve, It runs just fine on my Win 8.0 machine. What issues are you having? -Original Message- From: Steve Comstock [mailto:st...@trainersfriend.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 06:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1 Has anybody gotten SPFPRO to run on Windows 8.1 (oreven 8.0, for that matter)?Looks like I'll have to give up one of my favorite tools.Kind regards,-Steve Comstock--For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Well, first I simply copied over the directory containing the program files to my new system. I set up the program properties to run in compatibilty mode for Win XP SP 3. When I launch the progam I get two phenomema: 1) I get prompted if it's OK for this program to make changes to this computer - I reply Yes 2) then I get a system error that the program can't start because SPW32DM.DLL is missing from the computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix the problem [Note: all the DLLs are in the directory containing all the SPFPRO files] --- Now, I have not been successful running any install program from this directory; there are very few candidates: PATCH.EXE PDSUTIL.EXE PRFUPGDW.EXE SETUP.EXE SPFECHO.EXE Spfpro.exe SPW32THK.EXE UPG50.EXE UPGRADE.BAT VOL.EXE When I try any of these (except Spfpro.exe which is described above) I get This App can't run on your PC -- I notice the properties for the icon I use to launch Spfpro.exe says the program is located in C:\Users\SteveComstock\Desktop but I actually put everything in C:\SPFPRO, so that's a mystery. Any suggestions? Thanks. -Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
Steve, I realize that this isn't exactly the answer you wanted, but While I can get my copy to work on Windows 8.1 (I run it in compatibility mode by right clicking on the executable and choose the compatibility option), I have (as of a couple years ago), moved to SPFLITE (http://www.spflite.com). It supports all versions of Windows. And if you like it you can license a copy for (I think) $25. It's not a bad replacement for CTC's SPF and it's well maintained. If there are any options that you need that aren't there, the author is really good about adding things. I only keep the CTC stuff around now because I'm too careful to throw anything out. I don't get the same problem you are having with the CTC code though, maybe you damaged a module somewhere or maybe it's just the compatibility stuff that you need to do. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
