Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-01-08 o 08:54, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: [...] I also want that cables to be self-documented or rather self-labelled at BOTH ends ... There are such cables. Most of UTP cables we use are factory-labelled . BTW: I don not allow any unlabelled cable to be connected to mainframe. And

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread Martin Packer
.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: "R.S." <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 08/01/2016 08:08 Subject: Re: Change CPC name in HMC Sent by:

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread Jousma, David
Subject: Re: Change CPC name in HMC Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >BTW2: I wish I would put cable number into IODF, Brocade webtools, etc. Good luck on that. If one could get a standard in place to place all those numbers everywhere (cables, paper or software), life would be simpler. It would a

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-01-08 o 13:30, Martin Packer pisze: Well, I think links COULD be self documenting and largely are (at some level of abstraction). SMF 74-4 has a new Path Data Section. Everyone should check it out. I've blogged about this data several times in the past couple of years. SMF! Now I

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: >I meant both inside and outside. So cable 1234567890 will report where it is >plugged, which can be seen in HCD, SMF etc. And you can check that you have >cable 1234567890 and not 1234576890 in your hands to plug it. Agreed. First we draw up a table on a

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread Martin Packer
IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 08/01/2016 14:34 Subject: Re: Change CPC name in HMC Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 14:14:09 +, Martin Packer wrote: >And that's a wholly manual laborious process. :-( Until some

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Subject: Re: Change CPC name in HMC W dniu 2016-01-08 o 13:30, Martin Packer pisze: > Well, I think links COULD be self documenting and largely are (at some > level of abstraction). > > SMF 74-4 has a new Path Data Section. Everyone should check it out. I've > blogged about this dat

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-01-08 o 15:34, Tom Marchant pisze: On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 14:14:09 +, Martin Packer wrote: And that's a wholly manual laborious process. :-( Until someone invents a cable with displays at both ends that are synchronized Display is not a problem, you can have factory-labelled

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-01-08 o 11:49, Martin Packer pisze: What is the source of your connection documentation? Human? Or - as with the new 74-4 Path Data Section - machine-generated? Since only human entities plug and unplug the cables, also they are responsible for the documentation. BTW: What is 74-4

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread Martin Packer
gt; To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 08/01/2016 12:27 Subject: Re: Change CPC name in HMC Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> W dniu 2016-01-08 o 11:49, Martin Packer pisze: > What is the source of your connection documentation? Human? Or - as

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >BTW2: I wish I would put cable number into IODF, Brocade webtools, etc. Good luck on that. If one could get a standard in place to place all those numbers everywhere (cables, paper or software), life would be simpler. It would also be easier if there is a standard way

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: 08 January, 2016 14:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Change CPC name in HMC W dniu 2016-01-08 o 13:46, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM pisze: > Cables should identify themselves to the infrastructure they connect to. > Lots of other ha

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Martin Packer wrote: >SMF 74-4 has a new Path Data Section. Everyone should check it out. I've >blogged about this data several times in the past couple of years. Thanks for reminding us about SMF 74, subtype 4 (and OA37826 too). I remember your post in this:

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-01-08 o 13:46, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM pisze: Cables should identify themselves to the infrastructure they connect to. Lots of other hardware does this too. I don't understand. I have yellow FICON cable plugged to some port in my DASD box. Since there are no "chpid numbers" I

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread Martin Packer
orks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Elardus Engelbrecht <elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 08/01/2016 14:01 Subject: Re: Change CPC name in HMC Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Vern

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-08 Thread Skip Robinson
jo.skip.robin...@att.net jo.skip.robin...@gmail.com > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of R.S. > Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 11:33 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [Bulk] Re: Change CPC

Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-07 Thread R.S.
Typically a CPC object in HMC is named P0012345 (serial number). It is unique, but not very convenient for multi-CPC display. Q: can I rename it? I would like to use names like FRANK or JENNY. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-07 Thread Lucas Rosalen
; Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker > Blog: > https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker > > > > From: "R.S." <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: 07/01/2016 10:33 > S

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-07 Thread Tony Thigpen
I have done such a change on two z10s with good results. The third time did not go so well. For some reason, the secondary cpc did not change. Everything looked ok until we did a POR, then it would not come up. We had to restore the CPC. I don't know what went wrong, but after that, we no

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-07 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-01-07 o 13:19, Tony Thigpen pisze: I have done such a change on two z10s with good results. The third time did not go so well. For some reason, the secondary cpc did not change. Everything looked ok until we did a POR, then it would not come up. We had to restore the CPC. I don't

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-07 Thread Barry Merrill
mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Change CPC name in HMC What SMF records contain the CPC name? Thanks, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-07 Thread R.S.
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [Bulk] Re: Change CPC name in HMC We 'had' to do this, once. IBM originally recommended that LPAR names be independent of the 'name' of the image name running within it. Then, with GDPS, they recommended the reverse. The implementation went without a hitch. All our

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-07 Thread Martin Packer
inPacker From: "R.S." <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 08/01/2016 07:33 Subject:Re: Change CPC name in HMC Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> I think, grouping doesn't help me. Why

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Martin Packer wrote: >General rant: "Machines should be self-documenting". In what Galaxy? ;-D I also want that cables to be self-documented or rather self-labelled at BOTH ends ... >Reality: "Largely they are". Yep. Very true in *this* Galaxy... Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Skip Robinson wrote: >2. Create a new group for the CEC. This it is! That step alone should ensure there are no ill consequences. This what I (and others) did during creating+preparing of LPARs during Y2K testing... I have been advised by IBM to create brand new things so no live LPARs are

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-07 Thread Martin Packer
orks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Skip Robinson <jo.skip.robin...@att.net> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 07/01/2016 15:49 Subject: Re: Change CPC name in HMC Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> First off, you can name a

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
  From: Skip Robinson Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:59 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Change CPC name in HMC First off, you can name a CPC anything you want within the syntax rules. Ideally you should pick a good name at initial install

Re: Change CPC name in HMC

2016-01-07 Thread Skip Robinson
IL > Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:47 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [Bulk] Re: Change CPC name in HMC > > We 'had' to do this, once. > IBM originally recommended that LPAR names be independent of the 'name' > of the image name running within it. > &g