In zOS v2R1, we hope to have a pointer to their product documentation but will
no longer
try to keep a copy of it.
Kevin Minerley
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But, I really don't like the idea of building my own shelves and I certainly
am not interested in significantly increasing my time to download individual
products.
You shouldn't have to build your own shelves, at least not for products, as
the XKS shelf acts exactly like a BKS for each
If you're referring to my comment on indexes, this isn't what I meant.
I simply meant the .des files that contain pointers to the actual
books, whether in .boo or .pdf format, and the metadata necessary to
decide if a book is current or has been superceded. It looks as though
IBM is not
In
cae1xxdgwnqornv4awudrjw4w38cur7yrv-m1zc6mjgxg8qw...@mail.gmail.com,
on 09/16/2013
at 04:13 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
For anything critical one must anyway be sure that one is consulting
the most current version of a manual [or its repackaged replacement
in some other
On 17 September 2013 07:13, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote:
If you're referring to my comment on indexes, this isn't what I meant.
I simply meant the .des files that contain pointers to the actual
books, whether in .boo or .pdf format, and the metadata necessary to
decide if a book is
I don't know what that means ( main platform schedule vs platform schedule).
My bad, typo. The individual product schedules do not all regularly fall on
the zOS platform schedule.
Base elements usually are on the zOS platform but products like OSA, SMP/E,
NFS, ICKDSF, etc don't necessarily
On 17 September 2013 12:03, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Well I could if the .des files were kept up to date, but evidently
that's not happening. Which is exactly where we came in 29 posts ago.
If the .des files were up to date - in this particular case so that
the z/OS V1.13 file
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The only other source is the complete download of a collection kit from
Publications center and using Softcopy
The only other source is the complete download of a collection kit from
Publications center and using Softcopy Librarian against the descriptor file
(.des) file therein.
It, however, will only be as current as what each individual product decides to
put in and many have moved away
from any
: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
On 17 September 2013 12:03, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com
wrote:
Well I could if the .des files were kept up to date, but evidently
that's not happening. Which is exactly where we came in 29 posts ago.
If the .des files were up to date
Right -- more or less my original question in fact.
Charles
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Since Cobol 5.1 and z/OS 2.1 haven't been released yet, I would wait until
the GA date and see if the bookshelves are updated.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote:
On 17 September 2013 07:13, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote:
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Before with
In 5236fff6.3050...@trainersfriend.com, on 09/16/2013
at 06:56 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/v2r1pdf/
Where are the MVS data areas?
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:41:33 -0400, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
I guess I must be the only person in the world using these two programs.
Strange. I originally got them off of the old z/OS CD and then DVD manual
sets, I think.
Perhaps when z/OS 2.1 goes GA the end of the month they will
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:41:33 -0400, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
I
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Of Charles Mills
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Thanks.
IBM only updates the online collection when they issue new CDs/DVDs for a new
release of an operating system
The zOS, zVSE, and zVM softcopy collections still exist but ONLY in electronic
form. Download them from the IBM Publications Center
http://www-05.ibm.com/e-business/linkweb/publications/servlet/pbi.wss.
Kevin Minerley
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On 16 September 2013 11:36, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
Kevin is right. All of the COBOL 5.1 publications are available for
downloading at the IBM Publications website.
Thus, for example, the new Language Reference, SC4-7381-00, and the
new Programming Guide, SC4-7382-00, are
Kevin is right. All of the COBOL 5.1 publications are available for
downloading at the IBM Publications website.
Thus, for example, the new Language Reference, SC4-7381-00, and the
new Programming Guide, SC4-7382-00, are both available.
Unfortunately, however, they are available there ONLY as
Exactly.
Charles
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On 16 September 2013 11
1) As pointed out, Softcopy Library (SCL) can handle PDFS
2) As for indexing all the base zOS elements, many of the zVSE, and zVM
will have indexed PDFs
and an associated extended (XKS) shelf. We have instituted a request to
other non-base products to consider
PDF indexing; but that is a
, September 16, 2013 9:45 AM
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Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
1) As pointed out, Softcopy Library (SCL) can handle PDFS
2) As for indexing all the base zOS elements, many of the zVSE, and zVM
will have indexed PDFs and an associated
On 16 September 2013 12:45, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote:
) As pointed out, Softcopy Library (SCL) can handle PDFS
2) As for indexing all the base zOS elements, many of the zVSE, and zVM
will have indexed PDFs
and an associated extended (XKS) shelf. We have instituted a
Unlike many of you, I keep copies, as PDFs, of only the manuals I
access very frequently. They are now so readily available and so easy
to download that I do not keep, for example IMS manuals, which I look
at only infrequently.
Others will of course have different usage/reference patterns.
I
Thanks, John. Don't know if I want it that badly. g
Charles
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Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
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That is correct. And I also understand that IBM wants us to use INFOCENTER.
I
Of Charles Mills
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Thanks all.
Yeah, little problem finding the docs on the Web -- that was not the issue.
I just like the organization provided by the Softcopy
: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
I still use and really like Softcopy Librarian. I have stated my opinion of
the phase-out of Bookmanager format here before. My opinion of Infocenter is
not fit for a public forum
.
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Okay! Dave, can you find any Enterprise COBOL 5.1
On 13 September 2013 15:14, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
Okay! Dave, can you find any Enterprise COBOL 5.1 shelf for Softcopy
Librarian?
I did a little poking around, since it wasn't obvious where Softcopy
Librarian was getting its info. You set up an Internet source such as
Of Charles Mills
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Okay! Dave, can you find any Enterprise COBOL 5.1 shelf for Softcopy
Librarian?
Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
I use IBM BookManager on Windows, and IBM Softcopy Librarian. I am looking
for Enterprise COBOL V5R1 docs in either the IBM Publib Boulder or
Internet source and not finding anything. The z/OS bookshelves have not
been updated this year (but VSE and VM were updated as recently as this past
July).
Lizette Koehler wrote:
No more BOO books I think. Only PDF
Older versions like 4.2 and earlier have 2 types: BOO and PDF.
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27036733
That is one mother of a COBOL link with links to 7 versions of Enterprise COBOL
and other nice resources!
Ok,
:50 PM
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No more BOO books I think. Only PDF
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27036733
Lizette
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Subject: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
I use IBM BookManager on Windows, and IBM Softcopy Librarian. I am looking
for Enterprise COBOL V5R1 docs in either the IBM Publib Boulder or
Internet source and not finding anything. The z/OS bookshelves have not
been updated this year
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No more BOO books I think. Only PDF
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27036733
Lizette
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Behalf Of Charles
The COBOL manuals can be found here:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27036733
As far as updates to the z/OS library, zVSE and zVM have had new releases more
recently than z/OS. That may explain why there are no z/OS updates. Lizette
is correct that z/OS 2.1 is PDF-only so
: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:55 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
The COBOL manuals can be found here:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27036733
As far as updates to the z/OS library, zVSE and zVM have had new releases
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