Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?;

2021-11-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 11:08:51 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote:

>And just to close the loop:
> 
I would have used a relatively moron-proof subroutine:
Show Field:
say left( arg( 1 ), 9 )'=' value( arg( 1 ) )
return

>QVSVER = 2
>CECMODEL = 785
>CECMSUS = 10012
>CECSTAT = 1
>CECTYPE = 3906
>CECVALID = 1
>IMGVALID = 1
>LPARID = 1
>LPARMSUS = 5183
>LPARNAME = ZM01
>QVSFLAGS = E0
>VER2 = 

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Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?;

2021-11-22 Thread Phil Smith III
And just to close the loop:

QVSVER = 2
CECMODEL = 785
CECMSUS = 10012
CECSTAT = 1
CECTYPE = 3906
CECVALID = 1
IMGVALID = 1
LPARID = 1
LPARMSUS = 5183
LPARNAME = ZM01
QVSFLAGS = E0
VER2 = 

Looks a lot more plausible! Thanks again.


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Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?;

2021-11-21 Thread Phil Smith III
Steve Horein suggested:

>To me, it appears your variable names and values are not lining up, like
>your CECMODEL variable reflects your CECMSUS value, etc.
>Hopefully that helps?

 

Doh. All I did was take the code you posted and add a bunch of SAY
statements at the end, but in doing so I somehow got off by one *after the
first statement* and didn't notice-I verified the first one, then failed to
do so for the rest! That's what I get for doing things while on another
call. Now my test system is down but I'm 100% sure this will make it work
right.

 

Just in case anyone else wants to play with it, to save them the trouble of
doing what I did (twice):

/* Rexx -*/
/* Call the Query Virtual Server service provided by WLM to get  */
/* CEC and Image capacity, as well as other hardware identification. */
/* "IRAQVS" maps the returned data.  */
/*---*/
QVSLEN  = 97   /* Set output area length */
QVSLENX = RIGHT(X2C(D2X(QVSLEN)),, /* Set area length as char*/
4,,/* Pad to fullword*/
D2C(0))/* Pad with '00'x */
   /**/
QVSOUT  = QVSLENX ,/* Output area with length*/
||COPIES('00'X,QVSLEN-4)   /* Pad remainder with '00'x   */
   /**/
ADDRESS LINKPGM 'IWMQVS QVSOUT'/* Call Query Virtual Server  */
   /**/
IF RC > 0 ,/* Something didn't work  */
THEN DO/* Perform the following  */
  SAY "IWMQVS ERROR. RC =" RC  /* Provide some diagnostics   */
  EXIT /* Nothing more to do */
END/* End program error  */
   /**/
QVSVER   = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,5,1)) /* QVS version*/
QVSFLAGS = C2X(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,6,1)) /* Isolate returned flags */
CECVALID = SUBSTR(X2B(QVSFLAGS),1,1)   /* CEC information found? */
IMGVALID = SUBSTR(X2B(QVSFLAGS),2,1)   /* Image information found?   */
   /**/
IF QVSVER = 2 ,/* QVS extended information   */
THEN   /* Perform the following  */
  VER2 = X2B(C2X(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,97,1))) /* Get the bits I guess (TBD) */
   /**/
IF CECVALID ,  /* CEC information found  */
THEN DO/* Perform the following  */
  CECSTAT  = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,8,1))   /* Nominal/reduced capacity?  */
  CECTYPE  = SUBSTR(QVSOUT,9,4)/* Machine type   */
  CECMODEL = SUBSTR(QVSOUT,13,3)   /* Machine model  */
  CECMSUS  = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,65,4))  /* Machine MSU capacity   */
END/* End CEC information found  */
   /**/
IF IMGVALID ,  /* MVS running in a partition */
THEN DO/* Perform the following  */
  LPARNAME = SUBSTR(QVSOUT,69,8)   /* Get LPAR name  */
  LPARID   = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,77,2))  /* Get LPAR numeric identifier*/
  LPARMSUS = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,81,4))  /* Get LPAR MSU capacity  */
END/* End running in a partition */

say 'QVSVER =' QVSVER
say 'CECMODEL =' CECMODEL
say 'CECMSUS =' CECMSUS
say 'CECSTAT =' CECSTAT
say 'CECTYPE =' CECTYPE
say 'CECVALID =' CECVALID
say 'IMGVALID =' IMGVALID
say 'LPARID =' LPARID
say 'LPARMSUS =' LPARMSUS
say 'LPARNAME =' LPARNAME
say 'QVSFLAGS =' QVSFLAGS
say 'VER2 =' VER2


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Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?

2021-11-20 Thread Roger Lowe
On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 10:46:39 -0800, Charles Mills  wrote:

>I am thinking about coding an STC that would "do something" if LPAR
>soft-capping kicked in. Is there a field somewhere in z/OS that gives the
>MSU capacity of the LPAR *and that would change to reflect the effect of
>soft-capping*?
>
>This is for internal use, so I would be willing to bear the risks of a
>non-GUPI field.
>
Charles,
 If you are running RMF, you could use the RMF Monitor III Batch 
Reporter 
(https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=iii-how-use-rmf-monitor-batch-reporter)

We have set it up as a STC and one of the reports it produces is the R4HA every 
15 minutes and writes this information to the OPERLOG and then automation could 
be involved to take certain actions - 

+RMF300I 3B: Processing CPC Report... 21/11/21  
+MVS? - RMF301I: 4H Average:16  
+MVS? - RMF302I: 4H Max:37  
+MVS? - RMF303I: WLM Capping %:  0.0
+MVS? - RMF304I: Group Name: ABCXYZ   
+MVS? - RMF305I: Group Limit:31 
+MVS? - RMF306I: Time until Capping: 240 minutes

Roger

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Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?;

2021-11-20 Thread Steve Horein
I do see IRAQVS was expanded between z/OS 2.3 and 2.4:
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.3.0?topic=information-iraqvs-mapping
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=information-iraqvs-mapping

However, I still get expected results when run on a 2.4 system. I get to do
some fun things in NetView like create "command synonyms", so the Rexx is
expected to return the information based on how it's called:

CMD_NAME   DATE TIME   OPER_ID   USAGE_CNT MOD_NAME MOD_SZ D TY R E P
SE ILS F (CMD_SYNS)...(PARMS(SYNS))
JDIWMQVS 11/18/21 20:56:30 NET97PPT  8 DSICCP   002240 N R  Y Y Y
DE   . N (CECTYPE CECMODEL CECMSUS LPARNAME LPARID LPARMSUS) ()

CECMSUS
305
LPARMSUS
111
CECMODEL
411
CECTYPE
8561
LPARID
3

To me, it appears your variable names and values are not lining up, like
your CECMODEL variable reflects your CECMSUS value, etc.
Hopefully that helps?

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:58 AM Phil Smith III  wrote:

> Steve Horein provided some nice Rexx that talks to WLM about this, but I
> don't quite grok the output. When I run it and just display the various
> variables, I get:
>
> QVSVER = 2
>
> QVSFLAGS = 1
>
> IMGVALID = 
>
> CECSTAT = 3906
>
> CECMODEL = 10012
>
> LPARNAME = 1
>
> LPARMSUS = E0
>
> CECVALID = 1
>
> VER2 = 1
>
> CECTYPE = 785
>
> CECMSUS = ZM01
>
> LPARID = 5183
>
> FLCFACL=FBEBFFFBFE7807FCE000
>
>
>
> OTOH if I run:
>
> /* REXX -- Looks at memory and displays MSU counts */
>
>rct = c2d(storage(d2x(c2d(storage(d2x(c2d(storage(10, 4))+604), ,
>
>  4))+228), 4))
>
>say 'CEC MSUs='c2d(storage(d2x(rct+32), 4))';',
>
>  'LPAR MSUs='c2d(storage(d2x(rct+28), 4))';'
>
>
> I get:
>
> CEC MSUs=10012; LPAR MSUs=5183;
>
> which seems more reasonable and matches IPLINFO output.
>
>
>
> I assume I'm just not understanding the output of Steve's program?
>
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Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?;

2021-11-20 Thread Charles Mills
The IRAQVS block is documented in Storage Areas, if that helps.

I have not tried the IWMQVS approach as I am 95% content with the two
RCT fields.

The 5% of discontent is that it would be nice to have
- Granularity less than a 4 hour average. What is the MSU/hour consumption
over the last 5 or 15 or even 60 minutes?
- Granularity less than a million service units. Why not just service units?

Suggestions for the resolving the discontent happily accepted. IWMQVS does
not seem to be the answer.

Charles


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Subject: Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?;

Steve Horein provided some nice Rexx that talks to WLM about this, but I
don't quite grok the output. When I run it and just display the various
variables, I get:

QVSVER = 2

QVSFLAGS = 1

IMGVALID = 

CECSTAT = 3906

CECMODEL = 10012

LPARNAME = 1

LPARMSUS = E0

CECVALID = 1

VER2 = 1

CECTYPE = 785

CECMSUS = ZM01

LPARID = 5183

FLCFACL=FBEBFFFBFE7807FCE000

 

OTOH if I run:

/* REXX -- Looks at memory and displays MSU counts */

   rct = c2d(storage(d2x(c2d(storage(d2x(c2d(storage(10, 4))+604), ,

 4))+228), 4))

   say 'CEC MSUs='c2d(storage(d2x(rct+32), 4))';',

 'LPAR MSUs='c2d(storage(d2x(rct+28), 4))';'


I get:

CEC MSUs=10012; LPAR MSUs=5183;

which seems more reasonable and matches IPLINFO output.

 

I assume I'm just not understanding the output of Steve's program?


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Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?;

2021-11-20 Thread Phil Smith III
Steve Horein provided some nice Rexx that talks to WLM about this, but I
don't quite grok the output. When I run it and just display the various
variables, I get:

QVSVER = 2

QVSFLAGS = 1

IMGVALID = 

CECSTAT = 3906

CECMODEL = 10012

LPARNAME = 1

LPARMSUS = E0

CECVALID = 1

VER2 = 1

CECTYPE = 785

CECMSUS = ZM01

LPARID = 5183

FLCFACL=FBEBFFFBFE7807FCE000

 

OTOH if I run:

/* REXX -- Looks at memory and displays MSU counts */

   rct = c2d(storage(d2x(c2d(storage(d2x(c2d(storage(10, 4))+604), ,

 4))+228), 4))

   say 'CEC MSUs='c2d(storage(d2x(rct+32), 4))';',

 'LPAR MSUs='c2d(storage(d2x(rct+28), 4))';'


I get:

CEC MSUs=10012; LPAR MSUs=5183;

which seems more reasonable and matches IPLINFO output.

 

I assume I'm just not understanding the output of Steve's program?


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Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?

2021-11-20 Thread Charles Mills
It references IPLINFO, which uses the same fields I now use.

Interestingly, the "answer" does not seem to answer the OP's question. He asked 
about "current" usage. RCTLACS is the average for the last 4 hours. It would be 
interesting to get the current usage, but I do not know that it is available.

Charles


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On 19/11/2021 21:45, Charles Mills wrote:
> I will build a quick and dirty Rexx to display those two fields on demand and 
> see what I learn.


You may find one in the archives if this list, 13 years ago.

https://bit.listserv.ibm-main.narkive.com/KljbHTxQ/how-to-check-current-msus-usage

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Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?

2021-11-20 Thread Peter Sylvester

On 19/11/2021 21:45, Charles Mills wrote:

I will build a quick and dirty Rexx to display those two fields on demand and 
see what I learn.



You may find one in the archives if this list, 13 years ago.

https://bit.listserv.ibm-main.narkive.com/KljbHTxQ/how-to-check-current-msus-usage

Best

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Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?

2021-11-19 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. IRAQVS seems to have a bunch of useful stuff in it.

Charles


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See if this will help in your efforts:
/* Rexx -*/
/* Call the Query Virtual Server service provided by WLM to get  */
/* CEC and Image capacity, as well as other hardware identification. */
/* "IRAQVS" maps the returned data.  */
/*---*/
QVSLEN  = 97   /* Set output area length */
QVSLENX = RIGHT(X2C(D2X(QVSLEN)),, /* Set area length as char*/
4,,/* Pad to fullword*/
D2C(0))/* Pad with '00'x */
   /**/
QVSOUT  = QVSLENX ,/* Output area with length*/
||COPIES('00'X,QVSLEN-4)   /* Pad remainder with '00'x   */
   /**/
ADDRESS LINKPGM 'IWMQVS QVSOUT'/* Call Query Virtual Server  */
   /**/
IF RC > 0 ,/* Something didn't work  */
THEN DO/* Perform the following  */
  SAY "IWMQVS ERROR. RC =" RC  /* Provide some diagnostics   */
  EXIT /* Nothing more to do */
END/* End program error  */
   /**/
QVSVER   = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,5,1)) /* QVS version*/
QVSFLAGS = C2X(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,6,1)) /* Isolate returned flags */
CECVALID = SUBSTR(X2B(QVSFLAGS),1,1)   /* CEC information found? */
IMGVALID = SUBSTR(X2B(QVSFLAGS),2,1)   /* Image information found?   */
   /**/
IF QVSVER = 2 ,/* QVS extended information   */
THEN   /* Perform the following  */
  VER2 = X2B(C2X(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,97,1))) /* Get the bits I guess (TBD) */
   /**/
IF CECVALID ,  /* CEC information found  */
THEN DO/* Perform the following  */
  CECSTAT  = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,8,1))   /* Nominal/reduced capacity?  */
  CECTYPE  = SUBSTR(QVSOUT,9,4)/* Machine type   */
  CECMODEL = SUBSTR(QVSOUT,13,3)   /* Machine model  */
  CECMSUS  = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,65,4))  /* Machine MSU capacity   */
END/* End CEC information found  */
   /**/
IF IMGVALID ,  /* MVS running in a partition */
THEN DO/* Perform the following  */
  LPARNAME = SUBSTR(QVSOUT,69,8)   /* Get LPAR name  */
  LPARID   = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,77,2))  /* Get LPAR numeric identifier*/
  LPARMSUS = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,81,4))  /* Get LPAR MSU capacity  */
END/* End running in a partition */


The rest is NetView stuff to return the requested information back to the
caller, so I'll leave that to you!


On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 3:44 PM Charles Mills  wrote:

> I am seeing the same value in both fields. IMGWU definitely appears to be
> the MSU cap. I am guessing that LACS being equal means we are capped at
> that value (despite what the doc says).
>
> Charles
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Charles Mills
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 12:45 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?
>
> I will build a quick and dirty Rexx to display those two fields on demand
> and see what I learn.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Charles
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 11:56 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?
>
> Charles I think the RCTIMGWU field is what you are looking for, in short
> it's defined as
>
> Image defined MSU's -  as the softcap is changed that value is updated,
> I'm not 100% sure that's what your asking, if not sorry.
>
&g

Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?

2021-11-19 Thread Steve Horein
See if this will help in your efforts:
/* Rexx -*/
/* Call the Query Virtual Server service provided by WLM to get  */
/* CEC and Image capacity, as well as other hardware identification. */
/* "IRAQVS" maps the returned data.  */
/*---*/
QVSLEN  = 97   /* Set output area length */
QVSLENX = RIGHT(X2C(D2X(QVSLEN)),, /* Set area length as char*/
4,,/* Pad to fullword*/
D2C(0))/* Pad with '00'x */
   /**/
QVSOUT  = QVSLENX ,/* Output area with length*/
||COPIES('00'X,QVSLEN-4)   /* Pad remainder with '00'x   */
   /**/
ADDRESS LINKPGM 'IWMQVS QVSOUT'/* Call Query Virtual Server  */
   /**/
IF RC > 0 ,/* Something didn't work  */
THEN DO/* Perform the following  */
  SAY "IWMQVS ERROR. RC =" RC  /* Provide some diagnostics   */
  EXIT /* Nothing more to do */
END/* End program error  */
   /**/
QVSVER   = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,5,1)) /* QVS version*/
QVSFLAGS = C2X(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,6,1)) /* Isolate returned flags */
CECVALID = SUBSTR(X2B(QVSFLAGS),1,1)   /* CEC information found? */
IMGVALID = SUBSTR(X2B(QVSFLAGS),2,1)   /* Image information found?   */
   /**/
IF QVSVER = 2 ,/* QVS extended information   */
THEN   /* Perform the following  */
  VER2 = X2B(C2X(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,97,1))) /* Get the bits I guess (TBD) */
   /**/
IF CECVALID ,  /* CEC information found  */
THEN DO/* Perform the following  */
  CECSTAT  = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,8,1))   /* Nominal/reduced capacity?  */
  CECTYPE  = SUBSTR(QVSOUT,9,4)/* Machine type   */
  CECMODEL = SUBSTR(QVSOUT,13,3)   /* Machine model  */
  CECMSUS  = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,65,4))  /* Machine MSU capacity   */
END/* End CEC information found  */
   /**/
IF IMGVALID ,  /* MVS running in a partition */
THEN DO/* Perform the following  */
  LPARNAME = SUBSTR(QVSOUT,69,8)   /* Get LPAR name  */
  LPARID   = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,77,2))  /* Get LPAR numeric identifier*/
  LPARMSUS = C2D(SUBSTR(QVSOUT,81,4))  /* Get LPAR MSU capacity  */
END/* End running in a partition */


The rest is NetView stuff to return the requested information back to the
caller, so I'll leave that to you!


On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 3:44 PM Charles Mills  wrote:

> I am seeing the same value in both fields. IMGWU definitely appears to be
> the MSU cap. I am guessing that LACS being equal means we are capped at
> that value (despite what the doc says).
>
> Charles
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Charles Mills
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 12:45 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?
>
> I will build a quick and dirty Rexx to display those two fields on demand
> and see what I learn.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Charles
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 11:56 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?
>
> Charles I think the RCTIMGWU field is what you are looking for, in short
> it's defined as
>
> Image defined MSU's -  as the softcap is changed that value is updated,
> I'm not 100% sure that's what your asking, if not sorry.
>
> Mark's Rexx performs some calculations to report on used MSU's on a
> rolling 4hr average and the unused MSU for the 4hr average
>
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Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?

2021-11-19 Thread Charles Mills
I am seeing the same value in both fields. IMGWU definitely appears to be the 
MSU cap. I am guessing that LACS being equal means we are capped at that value 
(despite what the doc says).

Charles


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Subject: Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?

I will build a quick and dirty Rexx to display those two fields on demand and 
see what I learn.

Thanks again!

Charles


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Of Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 11:56 AM
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Subject: Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?

Charles I think the RCTIMGWU field is what you are looking for, in short 
it's defined as

Image defined MSU's -  as the softcap is changed that value is updated, 
I'm not 100% sure that's what your asking, if not sorry.

Mark's Rexx performs some calculations to report on used MSU's on a 
rolling 4hr average and the unused MSU for the 4hr average

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Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?

2021-11-19 Thread Charles Mills
I will build a quick and dirty Rexx to display those two fields on demand and 
see what I learn.

Thanks again!

Charles


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Of Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 11:56 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?

Charles I think the RCTIMGWU field is what you are looking for, in short 
it's defined as

Image defined MSU's -  as the softcap is changed that value is updated, 
I'm not 100% sure that's what your asking, if not sorry.

Mark's Rexx performs some calculations to report on used MSU's on a 
rolling 4hr average and the unused MSU for the 4hr average

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Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?

2021-11-19 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Charles I think the RCTIMGWU field is what you are looking for, in short 
it's defined as


Image defined MSU's -  as the softcap is changed that value is updated, 
I'm not 100% sure that's what your asking, if not sorry.


Mark's Rexx performs some calculations to report on used MSU's on a 
rolling 4hr average and the unused MSU for the 4hr average


Carmen

On 11/19/2021 1:44 PM, Charles Mills wrote:

@Carmen, thanks, that is a huge help. RCTLACS is documented as

Long-term average CPU service used by this logical partition, in millions of 
service units per hour. If this value is above the partition’s defined 
capacity, the partition will be capped. It is calculated using the physical CPU 
adjustment factor (RCTPCPUA) so it may not match other measures of service 
which are based on the logical CPU adjustment factor. It is available if the 
hardware supports LPAR cluster

I am assuming I can get to the RCT (possibly by IPLINFO) and as an added bonus, 
the field is GUPI!

So yeah, there is half the answer. So the next question is, where do I find "the 
partition's defined capacity" (in MSUs/hour)?

Charles


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we used part of Mark Zelden's IPLINFO Rexx  on MSU usage, the field we
use is

RCTLACS

I'd think you would need the defined MSU's (RCTIMGWU)  also and compare
the fields?

Check Marks IPLINFO, I think that would have everything you'd need.

of course there are other tools from other vendors but I think if you
want to build your own I'd be using the some fields Mark uses.

just my 2 cents

Carmen


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I am thinking about coding an STC that would "do something" if LPAR
soft-capping kicked in. Is there a field somewhere in z/OS that gives the
MSU capacity of the LPAR *and that would change to reflect the effect of
soft-capping*?

This is for internal use, so I would be willing to bear the risks of a
non-GUPI field.

Thanks,

Charles

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Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?

2021-11-19 Thread Charles Mills
@Carmen, thanks, that is a huge help. RCTLACS is documented as

Long-term average CPU service used by this logical partition, in millions of 
service units per hour. If this value is above the partition’s defined 
capacity, the partition will be capped. It is calculated using the physical CPU 
adjustment factor (RCTPCPUA) so it may not match other measures of service 
which are based on the logical CPU adjustment factor. It is available if the 
hardware supports LPAR cluster

I am assuming I can get to the RCT (possibly by IPLINFO) and as an added bonus, 
the field is GUPI!

So yeah, there is half the answer. So the next question is, where do I find 
"the partition's defined capacity" (in MSUs/hour)?

Charles


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we used part of Mark Zelden's IPLINFO Rexx  on MSU usage, the field we 
use is

   RCTLACS

I'd think you would need the defined MSU's (RCTIMGWU)  also and compare 
the fields?

Check Marks IPLINFO, I think that would have everything you'd need.

of course there are other tools from other vendors but I think if you 
want to build your own I'd be using the some fields Mark uses.

just my 2 cents

Carmen


On 11/19/2021 12:46 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
> I am thinking about coding an STC that would "do something" if LPAR
> soft-capping kicked in. Is there a field somewhere in z/OS that gives the
> MSU capacity of the LPAR *and that would change to reflect the effect of
> soft-capping*?
>
> This is for internal use, so I would be willing to bear the risks of a
> non-GUPI field.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charles
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Re: Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?

2021-11-19 Thread Carmen Vitullo
we used part of Mark Zelden's IPLINFO Rexx  on MSU usage, the field we 
use is


  RCTLACS

I'd think you would need the defined MSU's (RCTIMGWU)  also and compare 
the fields?


Check Marks IPLINFO, I think that would have everything you'd need.

of course there are other tools from other vendors but I think if you 
want to build your own I'd be using the some fields Mark uses.


just my 2 cents

Carmen


On 11/19/2021 12:46 PM, Charles Mills wrote:

I am thinking about coding an STC that would "do something" if LPAR
soft-capping kicked in. Is there a field somewhere in z/OS that gives the
MSU capacity of the LPAR *and that would change to reflect the effect of
soft-capping*?

This is for internal use, so I would be willing to bear the risks of a
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Thanks,

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Is there a field that would reflect LPAR soft-capping?

2021-11-19 Thread Charles Mills
I am thinking about coding an STC that would "do something" if LPAR
soft-capping kicked in. Is there a field somewhere in z/OS that gives the
MSU capacity of the LPAR *and that would change to reflect the effect of
soft-capping*?

This is for internal use, so I would be willing to bear the risks of a
non-GUPI field.

Thanks,

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Re: Soft Capping

2016-06-30 Thread Steve Austin
Thanks for this,  SYSEVENT REQLPDAT look like the answer. 

Steve

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CVT + x'25C' = address of RMCT (SRM control table) RMCT + x'E4' = address of 
RCT (SRM resource control table) RCT + x'C4' = RCTLACS (4 bytes, unsigned, 
long-term no. Of MSU's consumed by LPAR) RCT + x'1C' = RCTIMGW (4 bytes, 
unsigned, no. of MSU's available to LPAR)

If RCTLACS > RCTIMGWU, the LPAR is soft-capped (if they're equal, may be 
hard-capped, may be soft-capped, might just be busy).

SYSEVENT REQLPDAT returns the same information in fields LPDATAVGIMGSERVICE and 
LPDATIMGCAPACITY, as I think you've figured out. 

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Re: Soft Capping

2016-06-29 Thread Anthony Thompson
CVT + x'25C' = address of RMCT (SRM control table)
RMCT + x'E4' = address of RCT (SRM resource control table)
RCT + x'C4' = RCTLACS (4 bytes, unsigned, long-term no. Of MSU's consumed by 
LPAR) 
RCT + x'1C' = RCTIMGW (4 bytes, unsigned, no. of MSU's available to LPAR)

If RCTLACS > RCTIMGWU, the LPAR is soft-capped (if they're equal, may be 
hard-capped, may be soft-capped, might just be busy).

SYSEVENT REQLPDAT returns the same information in fields LPDATAVGIMGSERVICE and 
LPDATIMGCAPACITY, as I think you've figured out. 

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Re: Soft Capping

2016-06-29 Thread Steve Austin
Thanks "SYSEVENT REQLPDAT" looks promising.

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Look at your rolling 4-hour average vs your MSUs used.  If Softcap is in place, 
you can see spikes that go above the 4-hour average for the true MSUs used if 
you are hitting capacity.  If you have a hardcap, then you will never go over 
your configured capacity.  Of course, this is post processing and only after 
you have hit the capacity limit.  I'm not aware of a way to tell up front.

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really like to determine is whether the image capacity figure is from a soft 
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I think Mark Zelden's IPLINFO has that capability, but my system doesn't use 
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Re: Soft Capping

2016-06-29 Thread Craig Pace
Look at your rolling 4-hour average vs your MSUs used.  If Softcap is in place, 
you can see spikes that go above the 4-hour average for the true MSUs used if 
you are hitting capacity.  If you have a hardcap, then you will never go over 
your configured capacity.  Of course, this is post processing and only after 
you have hit the capacity limit.  I'm not aware of a way to tell up front.

Craig

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Thanks, I've taken a look and IPLINFO appears to be able to infer when a soft 
cap is in effect. However I did not phrase my question very well. What I'd 
really like to determine is whether the image capacity figure is from a soft 
cap or a hard cap, regardless of whether a cap is in effect.

Steve


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I think Mark Zelden's IPLINFO has that capability, but my system doesn't use 
capping so I cannot see it.

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Re: Soft Capping

2016-06-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
For Group Capacity, RMF III will show you the name of the group and the limit 
being enforced.

Select 1-OVERVIEW, then 3-CPC. Look for the following (ignore values, they are 
made up):

Partition:   LPTEST  Model 999
CPC Capacity: 999   Weight % of Max:    4h Avg:   90   Group: GROUPT
Image Capacity:   800   WLM Capping %:0.0   4h Max:   99   Limit:   777
MT Mode IIP:  N/A   Prod % IIP:   N/A

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Re: Soft Capping

2016-06-29 Thread Steve Austin
Thanks, I've taken a look and IPLINFO appears to be able to infer when a soft 
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really like to determine is whether the image capacity figure is from a soft 
cap or a hard cap, regardless of whether a cap is in effect. 

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soft capping query

2013-11-05 Thread Tommy Tsui
hi all,
I   want to clarify, if the relative weight is 531msu for only one lpar,
the defined capacity = 350 msu, this lpar may enjoy the 4 hour rolling
average exceed the defined capacity if first 2 hours utilized ony 100msu,
is it right, if this lpar keep continue busy greater than defined capacity
350 msu, what happen to the actual utilization, is it still enjoy the soft
capping 350 msu or lower than 350msu?

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Re: soft capping query

2013-11-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
No, not exactly this way.
After IPL the LPAR starts off with a blank history, wich means zero
MSU's for the last 4 hours.
So it can use 700 MSU for the first 2 hours before being capped, because
than the 4 hour average is 350 MSU.
Or it can use 466 MSU for the first 3 hours etc. etc.
The 4 hour rolling average is recalculated every 5 minutes over the
previous 48 5-minute periods.

Kees.


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hi all,
I   want to clarify, if the relative weight is 531msu for only one lpar,
the defined capacity = 350 msu, this lpar may enjoy the 4 hour rolling
average exceed the defined capacity if first 2 hours utilized ony
100msu, is it right, if this lpar keep continue busy greater than
defined capacity
350 msu, what happen to the actual utilization, is it still enjoy the
soft capping 350 msu or lower than 350msu?

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Re: soft capping query

2013-11-05 Thread mario@tiscali
A LPAR exceeding its defined capacity will be soft-capped i.e. not 
allowed to exceed it (in your example 350msu) until the 4HRA drops below 
the defined capacity. So in your terms it will still enjoy the soft 
capping value.


This also means that 4HRA will potentially keep growing above the 
defined capacity for some time.


Hope this helps,
mario

On 11/05/2013 11:47 AM, Tommy Tsui wrote:

hi all,
I   want to clarify, if the relative weight is 531msu for only one lpar,
the defined capacity = 350 msu, this lpar may enjoy the 4 hour rolling
average exceed the defined capacity if first 2 hours utilized ony 100msu,
is it right, if this lpar keep continue busy greater than defined capacity
350 msu, what happen to the actual utilization, is it still enjoy the soft
capping 350 msu or lower than 350msu?

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Quick question about soft capping

2013-06-05 Thread Tom Sims
Is it possible to enable LPAR soft capping in a basic sysplex, or does WLM 
require a CF for this?  Thanks!
Tom

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Re: Quick question about soft capping

2013-06-05 Thread Bob Rutledge

Tom Sims wrote:
Is it possible to enable LPAR soft capping in a basic sysplex, or does WLM 
require a CF for this?  Thanks!


It has been working quite happily in our basic sysplex.

Bob

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Re: Quick question about soft capping

2013-06-05 Thread Tom Sims
Thanks.
/T





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Tom Sims wrote:
 Is it possible to enable LPAR soft capping in a basic sysplex, or does WLM 
require a CF for this?  Thanks!

It has been working quite happily in our basic sysplex.

Bob

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