Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Bill Godfrey
If "S" was assigned the 0 and 2 rows because 0 and 1 were too close together, then why was "/" given rows 0 and 1? Does that punch a hole in this theory? GD Bill On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 14:30:52 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >"Laced" (every hold punched) cards were an amusing bulletin board item. >

Re: Extending the /tmp file system

2020-06-02 Thread David Geib
Hello Gadi - Only a TFS running as a colony address space can be extended - see the chapter "Managing the temporary file system (TFS)" in the z/OS UNIX Planning manual. https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zOSV2R3ga320884/$file/bpxb200_v2r3.pdf Regards, Dave Geib

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Bob Bridges
Peter, you may want to go to eBay and/or Amazon and price punch cards. You may be able to make a buck or two on those in your attic. I looked at this a while ago - thought I might want to use some old ones for notepads and bookmarks, and found they're now considered antique arcana. I'm looking

Re: XCF/GRS question

2020-06-02 Thread Peter Bishop
Hi Jerry, questions, and a suggestion. These are more at the hardware layer than the GRS one, which I saw Paul Feller addressing quite well. It may be that you cannot change the LPAR setup, but if you can, here are some ideas. 1. Must the CFs share the GPs with the z/OS systems, or are

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Mark Jacobs
Up until a couple of weeks ago I had a full box of 2000 that I absconded with in the early 90's. Now I'm down to about 1900. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
They were valid column binary. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Steve Smith [sasd...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 5:06 PM To:

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 15:14:33 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > >Some card readers supported Column Binary or Card Image mode, and in >this case a card record was 160 bytes with each column mapped to the >low-order 6 bits of two adjacent bytes. I think there were some other >variations for this mapping.

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I haven't seen this mentioned. The punch card codes for letters went like this: A - I rows 1 - 9 J - R rows 1 - 9 S - Z rows 2 - 9 So why was S assigned to row 2 instead of row 1? The answer I was taught was that row 1 was too close to an adjacent location. The punching/reading

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Two of the EBCDIC design constraints were 1. Preserve the punch combinations for common characters 2. Map numeric punches into the corresponding 4-bit numbers -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
My favorite OT theme. Related in my mind. The diameter of the original space shuttle booster rocket was an odd value determined as follows: -- The booster was built in rural Utah -- To reach the eventual launch pad, it had to travel through a train tunnel -- The booster had to fit through the

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 21:38:56 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >My favorite OT theme. Related in my mind. The diameter of the original space >shuttle booster rocket was an odd value determined as follows: > >-- The booster was built in rural Utah >-- To reach the eventual launch pad, it had to

Re: Cl/Supersession

2020-06-02 Thread Steve Beaver
I decided to blow up my current "Handy Work" and go thru the install process to See what I missed since this is NOT a MIGRATION from V147 The saving grace is that I have RACF SPECIAL and I will have to recheck all of that -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Charles Mills
"Laced" (every hold punched) cards were an amusing bulletin board item. And yes, I believe I heard at the time @Jesse's premise as to why 'S' did not use row 1. Actually, the alpha codes are as follow: A - I, row 12 plus rows 1 - 9 J - R, row 11 plus rows 1 - 9 S - Z, row 0 plus rows 2 - 9 So

Re: XCF/GRS question [EXTERNAL]

2020-06-02 Thread Feller, Paul
Jerry, I don't have the type of setup you have but I'll list a few things I might look at. Move the CONTENTION NOTIFYING SYSTEM from your TEST lpar to your MVSZ lpar, assuming MVSZ is your production lpar. This process can add overhead to GRS and on a small lpar it can be noticeable. The

Re: Cl/Supersession

2020-06-02 Thread lenru...@gmail.com
You should be able to put images on paste.pic, then put the link in a listserv post. On Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 10:14:05 AM CDT, Statler, David <02519de3291f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: We also use CL/SuperSession. Users connect to the system using a TN3270 client.

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Steve Smith
That's plausible, I think. While there are plenty of adjacent punches in the full 256-characters, I'm sure most cards were mostly alphanumeric only, and it might pay to make them as strong as possible. I remember seeing some cards that were punched in every position; those were very delicate,

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Charles Mills
I don't think so. Alphas were an afterthought to numerics, and specials were an afterthought to alphas. In 1960's accounting data S's were much more common than slashes. There are lots of characters with adjacent punches, but I think it plausible that IBM avoided them for what it thought to be

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 16:42:18 -0500, Bill Godfrey wrote: >If "S" was assigned the 0 and 2 rows because 0 and 1 were too close together, >then >why was "/" given rows 0 and 1? Does that punch a hole in this theory? GD > And there'sa whole row of 7-8 (sparsely populated). I don't understand the

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Mike Schwab
Yep. Same width as Roman Chariots, drawn by two horses, side by side.. On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:39 PM Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > > My favorite OT theme. Related in my mind. The diameter of the original space > shuttle booster rocket was an odd value determined as follows: > > -- The booster was

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Charles Mills
Yeah, we used them for notecards and shopping lists until I used up my entire stock sometime in the nineties. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 6:24 PM To:

Debug tool and estae/x

2020-06-02 Thread Joseph Reichman
Does anybody know if debug tool has issues with Estate/x I am getting a S0C1 right after the invocation either the PC OR svc 60 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

FW: Your comment on ISPF publication

2020-06-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Does anybody know of other characters that are problematical in the TSO command? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: Yi Chen Zhang [zhang...@cn.ibm.com] on behalf of COMSVRCF EMAIL [comsv...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 2,

Re: FW: Your comment on ISPF publication

2020-06-02 Thread Steve Smith
I'm not sure this is relevant, but today I ran into this: EX 'yadda.zadda.exec(blah)' ',,foo' /* works */ but %blah ,,foo /* does not work */ "blah" starts with parse arg a ',' b ',' c The leading commas disappear with the so-called indirect invocation, and so 'foo' is assigned to a, not c.

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Brian Westerman
That is probably true, but you can't run a Star without CF's, which are out of the question due to cost. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Brian Westerman
This is the second time someone mentioned sharing FCTC with regular stuff one Ficon cards. Maybe I'm doing something wrong when I try to do this with HCD. Possibly I delete the current FICON TAPE or DASD CHPID entry and start from scratch as some other "kind" of definition. Has anyone tried

Re: What is GRXBIMG

2020-06-02 Thread Steve Smith
It is a WTF. Google: Did you mean: *GRABBING* sas On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 12:31 AM Seymour J Metz wrote: > In the REXX Reference

Re: What is GRXBIMG

2020-06-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
I said what I meant, and I meant what I said, A sysprog is faithful, 100% "Hortion hears an IPL", Dr. Seuss It was a direct cut and past from the manual, and none of the hits for GRABBING mentioned ddname. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: XCF/GRS question

2020-06-02 Thread Edgington, Jerry
See below and thank you very much for all the information and suggestions. Jerry From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Peter Bishop Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 8:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: XCF/GRS question This message was

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Brian Westerman
no switches exist at the site. I can't see how to share the CTC and NON CTC Control units on a Ficon card, it (HCD) keeps generating a message that you can't "share" CTC and NON CTC on the same CHPID, but maybe I'm doing something wrong.

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Brian Westerman
We don't have a switch. And GRS can't possibly be worse than MIM using DASD to send the information between the LPARs, which is what is happening now. Brian On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 11:43:30 +0200, R.S. wrote: >Good question. However better question is why LPARs withing single CPC >cannot

What is GRXBIMG

2020-06-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
In the REXX Reference I saw this: "You can invoke a REXX exec in the TSO/E address space in several ways. To invoke an exec in TSO/E foreground, use the TSO/E EXEC command processor to either implicitly or explicitly invoke the exec and you must have ddname GRXBIMG allocated." What is GRXBIMG?

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Brian Westerman
For our type of load it's supposed to be negligible. The machine is a 13MSU box and the load that runs is about 8 to 11 at the peaks, so it's pretty low use. Most of what runs isn't batch or TSO, so there isn't a lot of allocation/deallocation going on. Brian On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 04:41:54

Re: FW: Your comment on ISPF publication

2020-06-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Neither the documentation of EXEC nor the documentation of IKJSCAN says anything about that. I suspect that it's something specific to implicit EXEC. Is anybody in a position to make a formal query to IBM? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Extending the /tmp file system

2020-06-02 Thread Jousma, David
Gadi, If you are running low on space, you might also look at running the skulker shell script that IBM supplies. I have a minimally configured CRON schedule that runs a few housekeeping scripts. We also converted /tmp from a TFS to a real filesystem a couple years ago. First is to touch

Re: Extending the /tmp file system

2020-06-02 Thread Jousma, David
Oh...I forgot the mention that skulker is in /samples, and not marked as executable so I wrote a SMPE usermod that copies it from there to /usr/sbin. Here is the source to build that usermod to then be applied if you are interested (or anyone else) //XXXE JOB

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 16:19:45 +0200, R.S. wrote: > >Q1: how it was in the past? I mean, were the DD * limited to "punched >card" character set? Or it was always full EBCDIC if the job was read >from DASD? > I believe EBCDIC cards supported the full 256-character set. It was possible to have

Re: Cl/Supersession

2020-06-02 Thread Statler, David
We also use CL/SuperSession. Users connect to the system using a TN3270 client. Depending on their subnet, some users get the SuperSession logon screen when they connect, others get the VTAM MSG10 screen. That is all controlled inside the telnet server of course. From the MSG10 screen, they

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Mazer Ken G
Here's a site that may have more info for your reading pleasure, http://www.punchcardreader.com/ I have used this service to decode several hundred punched cards several years ago. The historical society that I'm a member of has thousands of punched cards with no real way to read them anymore.

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
That's what the multipunch icon is for. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Tuesday,

IBM Z OSA-Express OSE CHPID Type Usage Survey

2020-06-02 Thread Yi Chen Zhang
Hello list, I am Erin from IBM z/OS Communications Server team. The Systems Network Architecture (SNA) protocol, which provides communication between IBM mainframes and peripheral nodes, is often deployed in the retail and finance industries. Developed by IBM for the business community, SNA

Re: Cl/Supersession

2020-06-02 Thread Edgington, Jerry
The listserv, will not allow the sending of screen shot, and I tried HTML, but it was rejected. I am working on switching the definitions to dynamic definitions, instead of defining each individual terminal. How are you having the users logging on to CLSS from the 10 Screen? - The

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Bruce Lightsey
Hollerith code - used to have a template to read the punched cards that didn't have the characters printed along the top ( above each punched column ) Bruce Lightsey Database Manager MS Department of Information Technology Services 601-432-8144 | www.its.ms.gov DISCLAIMER: This email and any

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread R.S.
1. As documentations says, CTC over FICON require two ports connected with a cable (similar to ESCON), or single port, but it has to be connected to a switch. Absolutely no loopback is ever used. 2. Don't confuse loopback and dust-cover. The first is really a piece of fiber optic with

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 07:49:30 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >https://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/cards/codes.html Charles  Or, perhaps: https://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/cards/codes.html Blame the iPhone? > Original message From: "Farley, Peter x23353" > Date: 6/2/20

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Well, if you had a 3525 and wanted to print on the output card then the encoding mattered, but only when it was up. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yes, but he wants UTF-8, so he needs to do some additional hand coding before looking up the hole encoding, *then* use multi-punch. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 15:48:23 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >That's what the multipunch icon is for. > Doesn't seem to work. Rats! It won't let me paste from my Mac clipboard. > >From: Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 11:45 AM > >>In this day and

FW: Cl/Supersession

2020-06-02 Thread Steve Beaver
I've come up to a couple silly questions Would you send me a screen shot or your VTAMLST member for CLSS? How are you having the users logging on to CLSS from the 10 Screen? Have you had to add every user to CL/SuperSession? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread R.S.
I have never used punched cards, so forgive me my questions. As far as I know, a character set on punched cards was somehow limited, so it is not EBCDIC or similar set of 256 characters. Of course that means some limitations for DD * datasets - if coded on real punched cards. Nowadays I'm

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Radoslaw, In the IBM world, all possible EBCDIC characters (all 256) were possible to punch into physical cards, but punching any characters not on the keypunch machine's keyboard (like lower-case letters) required using the "multi-punch" key (or on older keypunch machines, physically holding

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
First, my experience is limited to Holerith (80 column) cards; no 90 column or 96 column cards. Before S/360 there were several different encodings, both as to what hole combinations corresponded to what characters and as to what characters corresponded to what numbers. The decimal machines

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
The IBM world did not begin with the S/360. Except for the late lamented 7030, IBM computers used either a two digit character code or a six bit character code. There was no way to encode more than 100 values on a 650 or 64 values on a 704. UNIVAC initially used 90 column cards; they never

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Charles Mills
> thousands of punched cards with no real way to read them anymore In this day and age it should be pretty trivial to write software that would encode a scanned image of a punched card. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Ron Wells
Ahhh--good old days...when I started in 65--TAB operator out of school -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joe Monk Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Punched cards and character set ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE

Re: Cl/Supersession

2020-06-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Does departmental poicy allow you to bring up a public facing FTP or WWW server? If so, pur your screen shots there and post links. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Re: Cl/Supersession

2020-06-02 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Steve, That sounds like a LOGMODE table issue.I would check the LOGMODEs and Terminal types. However, my knowledge is limited, when it comes to VTAM and its components. Jerry -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Tuesday, June

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Charles Mills
https://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/cards/codes.html Charles  Original message From: "Farley, Peter x23353" Date: 6/2/20 7:43 AM (GMT-08:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Punched cards and character set Radoslaw,In the IBM world, all possible EBCDIC

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup [EXTERNAL]

2020-06-02 Thread Feller, Paul
Dana, when we had the CTCs defined going through a set of switches we did not have the Serial-# field coded in HCD. When we defined new CTCs without the switches we at first did not code the Serial-# And things didn't seem to want to "connect" up properly. We then coded the Serial-# in HCD

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Charles Mills
The System/3 used 96-column cards that were physically smaller than Hollerith cards. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 7:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 08:39:47 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >> thousands of punched cards with no real way to read them anymore > >In this day and age it should be pretty trivial to write software that would >encode a scanned image of a punched card. > https://www.masswerk.at/cardreader/ ... and you

Re: TIME a data set was created?

2020-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 29 May 2020 22:58:55 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 5/29/2020 7:00 PM, Peter Vels wrote: >> How does one get the TIME a z/OS data set was created? The date is easy, >> but I'm after the time. > >Data set creation time has been supported by z/OS for many years. To get >it, you must allocate

Re: Cl/Supersession

2020-06-02 Thread Steve Beaver
Jerry, I have the stupid thing talking to me using NON-TLS Ports. The only thing now is that its seems that I have NO Control at the READY prompt. I type in SDSF and the session shifts the SDSF command up on the SCREEN but does not execute the command. Other than that I am building my

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Joe Monk
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/referenceCard/GX20-1850-7_System_370_Reference_Summary_Feb89.pdf Pages 34-37 show the punch sequences for every EBCDIC character. Joe On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 10:48 AM Seymour J Metz wrote: > That's what the multipunch icon is for. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Allan Staller
I can speak from experience. GRS Ring performance sucks with even 2 LPARs compared to GRS STAR. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 11:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Base SYSPLEX setup [CAUTION:

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Alan, Just curious, but does using FCTCs use less MSUs than XCF structures?? Also, I believe you can use the FICON terminators, and loop the FICON back to itself. However, I haven't done it myself, because normally, during installation IBM removes all the FICON terminators. Thanks, Jerry

Re: Extending the /tmp file system

2020-06-02 Thread PIETIN Jean-Loup
Hi Normally with this .. you can : https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.bpxb200/tfsext.htm Best Regards Jean-Loup PIETIN -Message d'origine- De : IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] De la part de Gadi Ben-Avi Envoyé 

Catalog solution - dead or live?

2020-06-02 Thread ITschak Mugzach
I am trying to figure if this product still alive. afaik it is now at Rocket, but they only list mainstar catalog recovery plus. ITschak ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM comming son *

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Allan Staller
A total of 4 ficon ports are required with 2 cables. The FICON CTC's can be shared by all connected LPARs via PATHIIN/PATHOUT in SYS1.PARMLIB(COUPLExx). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 12:07 AM To:

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread R.S.
Good question. However better question is why LPARs withing single CPC cannot communicate via some emulated channel like ICP or IQD. The only reasonable answer is because IBM decided. Was the decision reasonable? That's another question. Fortunately for FICON CTC it is enough to use *one*

Extending the /tmp file system

2020-06-02 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi, Is it possible to extend the /tmp file system without an IPL? It's currently defined as: MOUNT FILESYSTEM('/tmp') MOUNTPOINT('/tmp') TYPE(TFS) MODE(RDWR) PARM('-s 100') We are running z/OS v2.2 Thanks Gadi -- For

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup [EXTERNAL]

2020-06-02 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Sun, 31 May 2020 12:19:16 +, Feller, Paul wrote: > We found out the hard way when we converted off of FICON switches you need to > code a serial number in the control unit definition to make > the connection work properly. > Does lack of a serial number really prevent these from

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Mike Wawiorko
KB, The question is about sysplex signalling by XCF. It is not about TCPIP networking. XCF does not use TCPIP protocols. SMC-D/R are for TCP networking HiperSockets is for IP networking Mike Wawiorko -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of kekronbekron

Re: Base SYSPLEX setup

2020-06-02 Thread Allan Staller
Speaking from experience, I did not notice any significant CPU associated w/GRS Ring. I did notice approximately 3x elongation in elapsed time in some GRS intensive tasks. (e.g. dfHSM dataset expiration) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I stand corrected. 90 columns for Univac not 96. Memory is the second thing to go and I forget what the first one is . . .  I only saw them once, when working as a temp keypunch operator. The service sent me to a Univac location and I had no idea how to operate their variety of keypunch

Re: What is 2034 from BPXBATCH sleep?

2020-06-02 Thread Charles Mills
Never mind. Found it. Out of memory. Putting a U4093-001C on the console but not with the job output! How would I be supposed to solve this if (for security reasons) I did not have console read access? G. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: What is 2034 from BPXBATCH sleep?

2020-06-02 Thread Charles Mills
You are correct. They show with an STC jobid whereas my job was a batch job. That's an explanation of why but hardly an answer -- and not your job @ITschak to answer this of course -- to HOW would a mortal be supposed to debug this? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: What is 2034 from BPXBATCH sleep?

2020-06-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 11:42:55 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >You are correct. They show with an STC jobid whereas my job was a batch job. > >That's an explanation of why but hardly an answer -- and not your job @ITschak >to answer this of course -- to HOW would a mortal be supposed to debug this? >

What is 2034 from BPXBATCH sleep?

2020-06-02 Thread Charles Mills
I am running the following and getting a return code 2034. I guess the doc is saying that is a Signal 9. Can someone explain what is going on? I'm sure this is elementary but I don't have much of a clue. No error messages! sleep is documented as only returning 0 and 2. //BPXBAT EXEC

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Tony Harminc
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 10:20, R.S. wrote: > As far as I know, a character set on punched cards was somehow limited, > so it is not EBCDIC or similar set of 256 characters. No, not at all. In fact in a way the opposite is true - a punched card column can contain way more than 256 values. There

XCF/GRS question

2020-06-02 Thread Edgington, Jerry
We are running on single SYSPlex with two LPARs (Prod and Test) with 2 ICFs, all running on the GPs. We are experiencing slowdowns, due to PROC-GRS on Test, PROC-XCFAS on Prod. Weights are 20/20/20/80 for ICF1/ICF2/Test/Prod. We have setup XCF Structures and FCTC for GRS Star Higher

Re: What is 2034 from BPXBATCH sleep?

2020-06-02 Thread Steve Beaver
Try PARM='SH /bin/sleep 5' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 12:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: What is 2034 from BPXBATCH sleep? I am running the following and

Re: Punched cards and character set

2020-06-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
The difference between commercial BCD and scientific BCD was a codfe page issue, although it predated that nomenclature. There were also code page issues among the various UCS images supplied by IBM for the 1403. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: What is 2034 from BPXBATCH sleep?

2020-06-02 Thread Gibney, Dave
I am reminded that my default REGION is still appropriate for the 80's (if not the 70's). I've never gotten around to changing it, because REGION= in JCL is so easy. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020

Re: What is 2034 from BPXBATCH sleep?

2020-06-02 Thread ITschak Mugzach
The abend occurred in a different asid. you may see the job number ib the log is different. ITschak ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM comming son * On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 8:56 PM Charles Mills wrote: