You miss the point - I'm not looking for Rocket support, although I won't
discount it, rather I'm looking for wisdom from the collective mainframe
community.
Lionel B. Dyck <><
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Doh. I got wrapped around the axle thinking about the client, didn’t focus on
the fact that the tn3270 server is integrated into z/OS! Sorry about that.
In any case, I believe what I wrote is correct, just not relevant to the
question asked
From: Phil Smith III
Sent: Friday, May 7,
On 7/05/2021 6:51 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
That was my question and I was hoping for a broader audience than just the
Rocket forums.
I understand but IMO there is no broader audience on IBMMAIN. A few
people for sure but it's in your best interests to ask questions on a
targeted forum.
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>I can be wrong, but I read that data portions for telnet traffic are so
>small that there is no interest to call ICSF functions and just built-in
>TCPIP/TN3270 procedures are used. Note: I talk about symmetric key
>crypto, not handshaking. And that part of "software
On 7/05/2021 6:04 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
You miss the point - I'm not looking for Rocket support, although I won't
discount it, rather I'm looking for wisdom from the collective mainframe
community.
I'm sorry. Was your question about how to install UNIX software into a
file system on
On Fri, 7 May 2021 11:37:40 +0100, Steve Austin wrote:
>I ran the code below on a Z15 and a z/PDT and got the values shown. Both
>are running summertime accounting the 09. But the result is a minute awry
>of what I was hoping for. What STIMERM LT value would I need to specify for
>11 o’clock?
>
I ran the code below on a Z15 and a z/PDT and got the values shown. Both
are running summertime accounting the 09. But the result is a minute awry
of what I was hoping for. What STIMERM LT value would I need to specify for
11 o’clock?
Thanks
Z15 09590001 3157 05072021
z/PDT
That was my question and I was hoping for a broader audience than just the
Rocket forums.
Lionel B Dyck <
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I did ask in both locations
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are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden
>From IPCS cbformat cvt structure(cvt)
LSO..
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Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 2:13 PM
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Subject: Re: STIMERM LT value
On Fri, 7
This is huge.
IBM says it has made a significant breakthrough in computer processors by
creating a 2nm chip in its test lab.
IBM claims its test chip can improve performance by 45% over current 7nm
commercially available products.
It is also more energy efficient - using 75% less energy to
I raised some comments on MQ on z/OS in the IBM documentation at the
beginning of April. I've checked with the IBM ID team - and they haven't
got the comments yet.
I recall that someone said they had given comments on z/OS documentation on
IBM Documentation and had responses ... so I do not know
On 5/7/2021 9:55 AM, Colin Paice wrote:
I raised some comments on MQ on z/OS in the IBM documentation at the
beginning of April. I've checked with the IBM ID team - and they haven't
got the comments yet.
I recall that someone said they had given comments on z/OS documentation on
IBM
On 5/7/2021 6:19 AM, Phil Smith III wrote:
It's a reasonably safe bet that any machine today has CPACF; that was not
always true, of course.
When IBM or a business partner configures a new machine, there's a
checkmark for CPACF (zero charge), but it defaults to unchecked. So
when ordering
For me, also...eventually. Not always right away.
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Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 9:55 AM
To:
Or, for that matter, is it C - I - C - S or KIX? (I use the former, but I know
many use the latter)
Chris Hoelscher
Lead Sys DBA
IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc.
T 502.476.2538 or 502.407.7266
Side subject - so how do you pronounce CPACF? I always say each letter,
Hi Chris,
My observation: Brits say KIX, Americans C-I-C-S and Germans, Austrians and
Swiss say SIKS.
Best regards,
René
> On 7 May 2021, at 18:13, Chris Hoelscher wrote:
>
> Or, for that matter, is it C - I - C - S or KIX? (I use the former, but I
> know many use the latter)
>
> Chris
Recapping:
Tom Brennan asked:
>Side subject - so how do you pronounce CPACF? I always say each letter,
>but some IBM crypto folks say C-Pack-F
I spell it out. See-pack-eff makes my head hurt.
Chris Hoelscher added:
>Or, for that matter, is it C - I - C - S or KIX? (I use the
Hi Richard,
This reminds me of a story.
Approximately 26 years ago, myself and a colleague were invited to a
multi-vendor meeting at a customer site to help solve a problem.
My colleague had the misfortune of pronouncing "SAP" as "sap" (rather
than Ess-Ay-Pee). The SAP guys there went stark
On 5/7/2021 12:38 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
I always thought of mhvrcfs as where "core MVS" documentation comments go:
the MHV part is "mid-Hudson Valley." But I asked somewhere (here? Someone at
IBM?) where to send a comment relative to some non "core" product (COBOL?)
and was told that mhvrcfs
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On
> Behalf Of Tom Brennan
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2021 10:30 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: 3270 emulator / telnet with encryption
>
> Ha ha - now you reminded me of a phone call years ago with an ISV
>
I'm probably the odd one out, but I say "SEE-pack-eff" and "kicks" for
CPACF and CICS and I'm on the east coast of the US.
And, yes, we (ICSF) do exploit the new z15 CPACF functions available with
MSAE9 (Compute Digital Signature Authentication (KDSA)) for EC key pair
generation, digital
Poland:
kicks for CICS
C-P-A-C-F for CPACF (*) , (**)
* Polish pronunciacion of letters. To start a war: we have consistent
rules. Not like Cincinnati and car. ;-)
Actually it's very similar to Latin.
** While CICS is rather not used very much on the streets, the CPACF is
almost unknown
On 8/05/2021 3:15 am, Tony Harminc wrote:
We've tried to encourage our young guys to
join this forum and participate in questions about ported tools and
Zowe. Unfortunately they become frustrated with the topic drift and
nostalgia threads and unsubscribe.
Maybe as your young guys mature they
FYI, there's a Slack room dedicated to the Open Mainframe Project which
covers topics such as Zowe and the new generation of tooling such as the
VS Plugins for COBOL, PL/I and HLASM. It's quite busy and while it is
mainly used by millennial's
there are a few faces from IBMMAIN participating.
This Slack workspace is not just for Zowe there are many different
channels. They are a lot of young guys learning the ropes that would
benefit from the guidance of experienced folks like we have in this
forum. It's good fun :)
*Welcome to the Open Mainframe Slack Workspace!*This workspace is
On 7/05/2021 7:26 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
I did ask in both locations
I appreciate it. You had a perfectly legitimate technical question.
Other people may have the same question and they will almost certainly
reference the Rocket forums.
Lionel B. Dyck <><
Website:
Hi Phil,
This reminds me of a story ...
Approximately 20 years ago, my colleague and myself (same colleague as
the other story) were supporting a company in QC.
Every time the customer called, it took (what seemed like forever) for
the introductory hello.
Part of it was due to their announcing
Without the links
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On 5/5/21 4:47 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
What's wrongwith running a 3270 client in an encrypted VPN?
IMHO, nothing.
I think the problem comes from complications around VPNs, not the least
of which include:
1) Complex configurations. -- Does the mainframe support being a VPN
endpoint
On 5/5/2021 3:47 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
What's wrongwith running a 3270 client in an encrypted VPN?
A VPN does not encrypt your traffic other than between the VPN endpoints.
In most implementations, VPN is used to cross the public Internet only.
Once the traffic hits the edge of the
On 5/7/21 5:21 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
A VPN does not encrypt your traffic other than between the VPN endpoints.
Which is perfectly fine if the VPN endpoints are the client and mainframe.
In most implementations, VPN is used to cross the public Internet only.
With "most (implementations)"
Eric,
Thanks for that confirmation. I suspected as much but had seen no details up
to now.
Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
https://rsclweb.com
'Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.'
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Eric D Rossman
Sent: 07
I thought anything less than 7nm between a chip's 'layers' would
experience quantum effects, with unpredictable results.
Is this new 2nm chip for an IBM quantum processor?
On 07/05/2021 15:45, Bill Johnson wrote:
> This is huge.
> IBM says it has made a significant breakthrough in computer
Hi,
Is it possible to run the erbscan line command in a batch job?
I don't want to run ADRDSSU with OPTION(DUMP) to DUMMY as that doesn't give the
same amount of detail as does erbscan.
There's Watson Walker's SMFSCRUB but for sites with unnecessary restrictions
even to vendor sites, that's
Plenty of law breakers in the universe. We don't understand what we don't
understand.
On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:05 PM Mike Schwab wrote:
> What they are doing is adding an insulation layer around the circuits,
> to eliminate crosstalk with adjacent circuits.
>
> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 9:01 PM
What they are doing is adding an insulation layer around the circuits,
to eliminate crosstalk with adjacent circuits.
On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 9:01 PM CM Poncelet wrote:
>
> I thought anything less than 7nm between a chip's 'layers' would
> experience quantum effects, with unpredictable results.
>
I always thought of mhvrcfs as where "core MVS" documentation comments go:
the MHV part is "mid-Hudson Valley." But I asked somewhere (here? Someone at
IBM?) where to send a comment relative to some non "core" product (COBOL?)
and was told that mhvrcfs was appropriate.
Charles
-Original
Tom,
CPACF is considered part of weaponry by the US government and so it has to be
capable of being disabled for those countries where exportation of encryption
is restricted by US Govt arms rules. This is why it has to be explicitly
selected.
CPACF is actually a pre-requisite for enabling a
Ha ha - now you reminded me of a phone call years ago with an ISV
programmer in England (I'm in USA). The guy said something like, "What
does that Wah-Toe indicate?" And I'm like, Wah-Toe Oh... it's WTO :)
I say C-I-C-S too.
Oops... this is the stuff David Crayford said drives people
On 5/7/2021 9:57 AM, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote:
Tom,
CPACF is considered part of weaponry by the US government and so it has to be
capable of being disabled for those countries where exportation of encryption
is restricted by US Govt arms rules. This is why it has to be explicitly
On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 22:23, David Crayford wrote:
>
> On 7/05/2021 9:17 am, Andrew Rowley wrote:
[...]
> > IBM would no doubt argue the same thing with their software - you are
> > better off asking them than asking here. But here you are likely to
> > get a broader range of points of view.
Moores law
On Sat, May 8, 2021, 05:27 zMan wrote:
> That could be way cool. Only I hope it actually quadruples it, not that it
> pretends to, as the quotes suggest.
>
> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 10:45 AM Bill Johnson <
> 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > This is huge.
>
When I moved Eastern to Western US many moons ago it seemed to me as if in the
East I had always heard the acronyms spelled out: D-O-S, C-I-C-S; but that in
the West I heard "doss" and "kicks."
DASD is always pronounced, isn't it? Does anyone ever say D-A-S-D?
Db2 on the other hand is always
Umm-m-m -- I would hazard a guess: many people on this list?
I had SUCH a crush on Annette Funicello, along with every other boy watching
the show that I knew.
Peter
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PINION, RICHARD W.
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 4:19
He obviously didn't star on a 704.
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Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 4:52 PM
To:
That is ok. I once had a senior manager ask me what was the difference between
C.I.C.S. and kicks. With a smile, l told him they are one in the same. BTW, l
am originally from the Northeastern U.S.Bill J.Sent from my Galaxy
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5/7/21
M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E. Who remembers that song?
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Sent: Friday, May 7, 2021 4:16 PM
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That could be way cool. Only I hope it actually quadruples it, not that it
pretends to, as the quotes suggest.
On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 10:45 AM Bill Johnson <
0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> This is huge.
> IBM says it has made a significant breakthrough in computer
I was at a Share conference about 10 or so years ago where an IBM senior
fellow, at one of the keynote addresses, said Moore’s law was no longer valid
because you can’t shrink forever. Plus, as you get smaller, heat becomes a
major issue. Seems like the engineers at IBM figured it out. It gives
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