Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
Attributed to Winston Churchill, possibly apocryphal: “This is the type of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put.” -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf

ISZAM

2022-06-09 Thread Steve Beaver
Is anyone running ISZAM in a Full-Sysplex. When the reports come out we have a very high number DUPLICATE LIBRARY/VOLSER findings, in the order of 2 to 15. We have the 3 STC's up on each LPAR in the PLEX and all the VOLSERS are shared across the plex. We have worked with IBM but with

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Gibney, Dave
IN this case, "wants" is an improper plural. "They" is referring to "person" which in this context ir a single individual, even if reference in the collective... > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2022

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Bob Bridges
Wait a moment, Shmuel: English still has the neuter. In fact ~most~ of our nouns are neuter, barring only a few exceptions, unlike the Romance languages which have only masculine and feminine. In English, almost every non-human noun and a handful of human ones are "it". What did you mean to

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 15:55:45 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: >I don't mind alternating "he" and "she" in both speech and writing, but I >decline to use a plural noun with a singular word. Except when I forget, of >course. > Ok. Example: "Every person does what they wants to." Do you see anything

SMP/E SMPWRK6

2022-06-09 Thread rpinion865
Has anyone tried setting DSNTYPE=LIBRARY for SMPWRK6? I'm doing a z/OS 2.4 cumulative maintenance install. Our temporary dataset allocations are SMS, and the volumes are 3390-9. I had set SMPWRK6 to CYL(3500,250,5000). But, my job kept abending with an E37 on SMPWRK6. In desperation, I allocated

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Gibney, Dave
I want, I don't wants > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2022 2:45 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX") > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] DO NOT CLICK links or attachments unless

Re: Rexx generic compare

2022-06-09 Thread Charles Mills
> Yes, but matching BY WHAT RULE(S)? Exactly! This sounds like a case of needing a "do what I want" subroutine. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 5:39 AM To:

SNOW

2022-06-09 Thread Steve Beaver
Has anyone in this group ever programmed SNOW? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: SNOW

2022-06-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
It might get you better answers if we knew what SNOW stands for . . . just sayin'. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 12:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SNOW Has anyone in this group ever programmed

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Bob Bridges
I don't mind alternating "he" and "she" in both speech and writing, but I decline to use a plural noun with a singular word. Except when I forget, of course. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If you can persuade your customer to tattoo your name on their chest, they

tape management from BMC

2022-06-09 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi list, Does anybody have experience with BMC's "Control-M Mainframe Extension Pack" which purports to be a tape management system? I had never heard of it and would like to know how it stacks up against "the big 3", CA-1, TLMS, and Dfsms/rmm. TIA, Rex

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Bob Bridges
Sure: "They". Is that what you meant? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I scarce ever heard or saw the introductory words, "Without vanity I may say," , but some vain thing immediately followed. Most people dislike vanity in others, whatever share they have of it

Re: Encrypted dataset - any eye catcher?

2022-06-09 Thread Rob Schramm
I just love IBM-Main!! Rob On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 11:04 AM Eric D Rossman wrote: > Howdy. I'm the author of the core functions used for dataset encryption, > in ICSF (CSNBKRR2), BCF (BCFXCRYP/BCFCRYPT), and SAF (the ICSF segment). > > Confirming: > AES-256 XTS mode > It uses protected key

Re: SNOW

2022-06-09 Thread rpinion865
SNOBOL? Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Thursday, June 9th, 2022 at 12:21 PM, Steve Beaver wrote: > Has anyone in this group ever programmed SNOW? > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: tape management from BMC

2022-06-09 Thread Carmen Vitullo
At my last gig we were all BMC-Control products, I've been impressed but the ease of installation / implementation and management of tape and of the CONTROL-T product, however - I have no experience with the CONTROL-M Extension Pack the migration from CA-1 to BMC CONTROL-T was done prior to

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, I don't want to go too far off-track here (this forum has nothing to do with Hebrew), but, the plural form (in Biblical Hebrew) denotes more importance (i.e. חֲשִיבוּת) than the singular form and is ALWAYS set to the masculine gender (however sexist that may sound to modern

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
Neuter singular pronouns for living beings. "They" and "them" are nominally plural in contemporary English, while "it" only applies to inanimate objects. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: SDSF & TSS (RACF)

2022-06-09 Thread Rob Schramm
I had a couple of thoughts. 1) let them fail. Fix security rules as needed or plan it a bit better. I think the STIGs are more in line with this thinking. 2) TSSINSTX may be used to alter the behavior you are talking about. But I still think that #1 is the way to go. Rob On Tue, May 24, 2022

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, It's a good thing that טומטום and אנררוגינוס were not introduced into this discussion. That might really cloud the issues. Regards, David On 2022-06-09 16:49, Seymour J Metz wrote: Neuter singular pronouns for living beings. "They" and "them" are nominally plural in

Re: SNOW

2022-06-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
Google is not a GOOD friend, and gets hits for other things as well. Presumably the OP only wants Simple Network of Workstations, not, e.g., the Snow programming language.. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 16:44:59 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: >Sure: "They". Is that what you meant? > Pronouns agree in number with their antecedents, so not plural. >-Original Message- >From: Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 16:10 >> >Ok. Example: "Every person does what they

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
"Wants" is singular,. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Gibney, Dave [03b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 5:23 PM

Re: SMP/E SMPWRK6

2022-06-09 Thread Matthew Stitt
I've been using DSNTYPE of LIBRARY for quite a while. Look at the SMS option on the DDDEF definition panel. Matthew On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 20:34:42 +, rpinion865 wrote: >Has anyone tried setting DSNTYPE=LIBRARY for SMPWRK6? I'm doing a z/OS 2.4 >cumulative maintenance install. Our temporary

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Bob Bridges
That's mostly true. But that's the neuter gender, which in English we apply mostly to inanimate objects. Not exclusively, though. Pet owners usually say "he" or "she" of their mammals, but we usually say "it" of an animal whose sex we don't know or don't care about ("it bit me!"). Some

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
There is historical precedent for using they as a singular pronoun, so it predates the claim that masculine generic pronouns are sexist. But I'm more concerned about stopping sexist behavior than about finding creative ways to see sexism that isn't actually there. In case someone is concerned

Re: SNOW

2022-06-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 16:25:25 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >It might get you better answers if we knew what SNOW stands for . . . just >sayin'. > GIYF: . But, still, yes. -- gil

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Bob Bridges
I know you're being facetious, but it happens I ~like~ the subjunctive. At least, I do now that I understand it. I was barely exposed to it in English, and when they tried to teach it to me in French class it didn't take. It wasn't until I studied classical Greek in college that I finally

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread CM Poncelet
"every child has their " should be "every child has its " - as "child" is animate but is also gender neuter (regardless of political correctness and woke culture.) On 09/06/2022 23:26, Bob Bridges wrote: > That's mostly true. But that's the neuter gender, which in English we apply > mostly to

z/VM FTP query

2022-06-09 Thread Hank Oerlemans
1. Is there a better forum for this question ? 2. If not... I have worked out that FTP on z/VM needs a couple of extra commands to a FIXED LRECL=1024 up to z/OS with the same number of records for a binary transfer. XMIT back to z/VM works fine but ftp does not. Clearly I have a workaround

Re: z/VM FTP query

2022-06-09 Thread Hank Oerlemans
Yes well .. hardly a result of good research but a colleague had a go at this and fluked using MODE B to send the data (VM side) and MODE S(default) to retrieve. Weird ! Only consistent thing was the BIN F lrecl Hank -- For

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Bob Bridges
It's commonly done that way, nowadays. Heck, I've done it myself, in casual speech. But I'm enough to remember that it isn't "proper", grammatically speaking, though it certainly isn't improper socially speaking. And grammar is what we're talking about here, no? Or maybe not. --- Bob

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Bob Bridges
Pronouns, grammatically speaking, ~should~ agree with their referent, which is why "they" (which is plural) is grammatically incorrect when used with "every person" (which is singular). Calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it one. (Yeah, so I'm a die-hard - so sue me.) --- Bob Bridges,

Re: z/VM FTP query

2022-06-09 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 21:23:34 -0500 Hank Oerlemans <03c4d8bf55f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: :>1. Is there a better forum for this question ? :>2. If not... :>I have worked out that FTP on z/VM needs a couple of extra commands to a FIXED LRECL=1024 up to z/OS with the same

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Gibney, Dave
"They" is properly singular when the singular referent is of unknown or irrelevant gender? > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Bob Bridges > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2022 3:30 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Bob Bridges
I suppose every culture has its rules about this. As a completely off-topic side note, some years ago at a gig in New Jersey I was chatting after hours with a Hispanic cleaning lady, and I mentioned something I had done as a child. To indicate my approximate age as I said "child", I patted an

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Dean Kent
I'll likely regret becoming involved in this, but... I once was speaking to a woman about the practices of another family, and said "Well, that is the culture he grew up in".   She said "No, I wasn't raised that way".  Both families are Vietnamese.  I replied that I was using the term

Re: SLIP IF not working

2022-06-09 Thread Robin Atwood
As several people have suggested, adding MODE=HOME does the trick. I thought it was not necessary since I had specified JOBNAME, but apparently not. John Welke sent me this illuminating private message: "I saw your question on IBM-MAIN about SLIP IF not working and as I only subscribe to the

Re: Receive from Network failed

2022-06-09 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
> I submitted two jobs a few hours ago. One to Boulder and one to Rochester. > Neither server responded after 90 minutes, so I cancelled them. This was a > surprise > that I did not even get the connection. The order did not get staged to the download server after 90 minutes? That's a

Re: SYNCSORT question: How to treat variable length KSDS as variable length input to SORT JOINKEYS

2022-06-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I am happy to report that just providing TYPE=V on the JOINKEYS statement for the VSAM file worked and treated the VSAM file as variable-length. Thank you again! Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Tuesday, June 7,

Re: Rexx generic compare

2022-06-09 Thread Bob Bridges
Yes, but matching BY WHAT RULE(S)? Which mask is the best match depends on what set of rules you're using - and unless I've misunderstood you, you seem to be saying that you have no particular set of rules in mind. Therefore you cannot determine which mask is the better fit. I have to run

Re: Receive from Network failed

2022-06-09 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
Tried again and order did get staged, but same FTP error that I cannot explain, especially the comment about "Unable to build data connection: Not owner": DATE 06/09/22 TIME 08:47:12SMP/E FTP Output SMP/E 37.11

Re: Receive from Network failed

2022-06-09 Thread Doug Henry
We have a job summited daily to receive maintenance from Boulder via HTTPS . The next on is not send until the first one finishes . We wait it out by specifying WAIT(NOLIMIT), I see on Sunday we it was started at 5AM and finished Monday (sucessfully) at Monday at 7:30 . That made a total of

Re: Rexx generic compare

2022-06-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
Even if it's just RACF, SETROPTS affects the processing. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of ITschak Mugzach [imugz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 9,

Re: Encrypted dataset - any eye catcher?

2022-06-09 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
I was under the impression that there is no technical requirement for the key to be a secure key. So data encryption can be used with clear keys in the CKDS when a Crypto Express is not available. Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw https://rsclweb.com ‘Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone

Re: Rexx generic compare

2022-06-09 Thread ITschak Mugzach
I know Saymour, but originally this is not a racf question, but mask matching. ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM coming soon * On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 2:57 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > Even if it's just

Re: Encrypted dataset - any eye catcher?

2022-06-09 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Yes, it is AES-256, secure (encrypted using MK), but there is also another requirement for CSFKEYS profile. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 09.06.2022 o 02:48, Mark Jacobs pisze: I found this in a 2017 IBM Security presentation. So it looks like it's XTS-AES. Key label: 64-byte

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
The Devil is in the details. The cases that you mention are not analogous. Now, I could make a case that we would be better off had we retained the neuter gender. But most of what you mentioned doesn't represent an obvious loss of clarity, conciseness, expressive power or precision. -- Shmuel

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread John Abell
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Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 15:43:31 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The Devil is in the details. The cases that you mention are not analogous. > >Now, I could make a case that we would be better off had we retained the >neuter gender. But most of what you mentioned doesn't represent an obvious >loss of

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread John Abell
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Re: SLIP IF not working

2022-06-09 Thread Peter Relson
> SLIP SET,IF,J=SRV1,PVTMOD=(MOD1,001234),ID=SLP1,END > I did issue D SLIP=SLP1 and the SLIP was enabled/active. You could take a console dump at the time that the SLIP trap is enabled/active. It should include the address space of SRV1. Look at control regs 9,10,11. They will show PER-IF

Re: Encrypted dataset - any eye catcher?

2022-06-09 Thread Phil Smith III
Thanks! Now that I know it's AES-XTS it's easy to find more. (I suppose I could have searched for every AES mode, but that would have taken years and cost millions of lives.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Encrypted dataset - any eye catcher?

2022-06-09 Thread Eric D Rossman
Howdy. I'm the author of the core functions used for dataset encryption, in ICSF (CSNBKRR2), BCF (BCFXCRYP/BCFCRYPT), and SAF (the ICSF segment). Confirming: AES-256 XTS mode It uses protected key exclusively for dataset encryption. There is a SAF (CSFKEYS) part of the setup. Caveats: 1. I

] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread Bill Ogden
>This abuse of latin-derived plurals leads to such obsenities as "piece of >data" where "datum" would suffice and "medias". >"Why can't the English learn to speak?";was that in Pygmalian, or added for My >Fair Lady? Good point, but why restrict it to a few Latin words. Much of English was