Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-08 Thread Tony Thigpen
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.] I have customer 3490 tapes from the 90's in my storage vault. (I also have good 3490 drives.) We told the customer that we do not know

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-08 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
: Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.] I have customer 3490 tapes from the 90's in my storage vault. (I also have good 3490 drives.) We told the customer that we do not know if the tapes were even

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-08 Thread Tony Thigpen
MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 05:54:17 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: Presumably he's saying that nobody in his right mind would simply copy the data on the tape to a byte stream, and that the most obvious way to archive th

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-08 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 06.06.2021 o 16:20, Joe Monk pisze: "There is another requirement here: to read REAL tape using PC tools. How to read? a) dataset by dataset b) whole tape => AWS tape image" Radoslaw, Hercules has a really cool utility called TAPECOPY! It reads a real tape and copies it to an AWSTAPE

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-08 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 05:54:17 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: Presumably he's saying that nobody in his right mind would simply copy the data on the tape to a byte stream, and that the most obvious way to archiv

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-08 Thread Carl Swanson
rl Swanson Mobile:215.688.1459 Email: carl.swans...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Sunday, June 6, 2021 12:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive On Sun, 6 Jun

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 05:54:17 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Presumably he's saying that nobody in his right mind would simply copy the >data on the tape to a byte stream, and that the most obvious way to archive >the tape is to convert it to AWSTAPE format. Once it's in AWSTAPE format, then

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-06 Thread Joe Monk
"There is another requirement here: to read REAL tape using PC tools. How to read? a) dataset by dataset b) whole tape => AWS tape image" Radoslaw, Hercules has a really cool utility called TAPECOPY! It reads a real tape and copies it to an AWSTAPE format disk file. Of course, being written by

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Farley, Peter x23353 [031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 2:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive Variable and U format will always be issues. Converting them on the PC

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive W dniu 04.06.2021 o 19:48, Paul Gilmartin pisze: > On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 17:30:38 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: > >> Assuming the PC-attached SCSI tape drive comes with software to copy data >

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 5:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 18:03:04 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >Variable an

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 18:03:04 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >Variable and U format will always be issues. > No. Why? > ... Converting them on the PC to unlabeled AWSTAPE has similar issues. > No. Why? Labels is just bytes. The format is documented and irrelevant. We once had an

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 at 14:12, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > W dniu 04.06.2021 o 19:48, Paul Gilmartin pisze: > > Block boundaries? Sometimes they matter, and RDWs and BDWs. Especially > > for RCFM=vBS > > such as IEBCOPY PDSU. And LRECL=X. > > > > AWSTAPE? > > Your brevity is excellent, but it

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-04 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 04.06.2021 o 19:48, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 17:30:38 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: Assuming the PC-attached SCSI tape drive comes with software to copy data from the tape to a disk file without any translation you just have to copy the files off the actual tape

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
EBCDIC files with ease so you know what you are dealing with after you capture the data. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 1:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: access to 9

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 17:30:38 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >Assuming the PC-attached SCSI tape drive comes with software to copy data from >the tape to a disk file without any translation you just have to copy the >files off the actual tape in binary and then FTP in binary up to your

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Schwab Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 10:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive EXTERNAL EMAIL On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 9:06 AM Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 15:37:18 +02

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-04 Thread Mike Schwab
On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 9:06 AM Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 15:37:18 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > > >OK, it can be connected to PC. > >SCSI? Still available, but not very up to date. Nevermind, you can have > >older PC. >

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-04 Thread Pommier, Rex
to the mainframe. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 8:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive OK, it can be connected to PC. SCSI? Still available

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 15:37:18 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >OK, it can be connected to PC. >SCSI? Still available, but not very up to date. Nevermind, you can have >older PC. >However... what next? > AWSTAPE? >... What software to use? How to read mainframe datasets? >I'm sure there are

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-04 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 1:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive Obviously it is possible to get (buy) 3420 compatible tape drive. However it is not so cheap. Tape d

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-04 Thread Charles Mills
you send it off wherever you want it. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 1:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape d

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-04 Thread Pommier, Rex
Skorupka > Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 10:05 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive > > There are such services available, GIYF. > Note: usually the service is to copy dataset from tape to some contemporary > medium like USB

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-04 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
rnal] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive There are such services available, GIYF. Note: usually the service is to copy dataset from tape to some contemporary medium like USB stick. No conversion, etc. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 03.06.2021 o 04:56, Mark S Waterbury pisze:

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-03 Thread David Purdy
Many law firms specializing in software infringement cases either have, or have access to, all kinds of tape drives. David -Original Message- From: Pommier, Rex To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thu, Jun 3, 2021 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

Re: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive

2021-06-03 Thread Pommier, Rex
Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 10:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: access to 9-track reel tape drive There are such services available, GIYF. Note: usually the service is to copy dataset from tape to some contemporary medium like