Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-11 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Conley Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 5:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: ISPF startup processing

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-11 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
, 2021 5:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: ISPF startup processing *** EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening links or attachments *** On 6/10/2021 5:39 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: > I'm a little incredulous that no one mentioned it already, but yes, there is > an

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-11 Thread Tom Conley
On 6/10/2021 5:39 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: I'm a little incredulous that no one mentioned it already, but yes, there is an ISPF-L listserv; check out ispf-l-l...@nd.edu. But it's not nearly as active as IBM-MAIN is, and you got excellent answers here. I'm not complaining, just answering your

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-10 Thread Bob Bridges
I'm a little incredulous that no one mentioned it already, but yes, there is an ISPF-L listserv; check out ispf-l-l...@nd.edu. But it's not nearly as active as IBM-MAIN is, and you got excellent answers here. I'm not complaining, just answering your question. --- Bob Bridges,

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-10 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I agree, for the most part that's a great place to start if you do not have any user Rexx or CLIST in concatenation first; I worked for a large Aerospace company that provided users the ability to add their own ISPF environmental datasets to the ISPF concatenation first, so all bets were off

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-10 Thread Tom Brennan
And I missed it if someone mentioned this already, but whenever someone came to me with an ISPF issue that seemed to be "only them", the first thing I'd do is ask them to get to READY, rename their ISPPROF dataset to something else, and allocate a new empty one. 9 out of 10 times this fixed

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-10 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Great info and thanks for sharing Tom. I've always used the dialog test option and breakpoints to diagnose ISPF application issues, but this step I never knew about Enter TSO ISPVVLI (this will allow dialog test to honor breakpoints for ISPF native code) thanks On 6/10/2021 8:51 AM, Tom

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-10 Thread Tom Conley
On 6/9/2021 12:24 PM, Billy Ashton wrote: Well, Kolusu has hit on the edge of the bullseye! I searched the ISPPROF file, and found the split and swap command string in the ISPPROF member. It took a little magic from an old Rexx I had from who knows when (called ProfRead) that showed there is

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Itschak Mugzach
p between ISPSTART and the ZSTART profile > > variable, but it appears so. > > > > Billy > > -- Original Message ------ > > From: "Seymour J Metz" > > To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu > > Sent: 6/9/2021 4:18:18 PM > > Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing &g

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Joe Monk
riable, but it appears so. > > Billy > -- Original Message -- > From: "Seymour J Metz" > To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu > Sent: 6/9/2021 4:18:18 PM > Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing > > >PDF and ISPF won't give you the same defaults as ISPSTART, so

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Billy Ashton
, but it appears so. Billy -- Original Message -- From: "Seymour J Metz" To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Sent: 6/9/2021 4:18:18 PM Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing PDF and ISPF won't give you the same defaults as ISPSTART, so it definitely matters whether the OP types ISPSTART o

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread ITschak Mugzach
67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:11 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing > > Does this happen with all ispf aliases (PFG ISPF, etc.)? What happens if he > starts ispf with a different APPL name (aka NEWAPPL(xxx

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Itschak Mugzach [0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing Does this happen with all ispf aliases (PFG ISPF, etc.)? What happens if he starts ispf with a different APPL

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Itschak Mugzach
nt: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:13 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing > > The TSO logon script dumps the user to a READY prompt. Then the user > selects either a specific application command for special processing or > ISPSTART to get into ISPF. I do

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Seymour J Metz
[bill00ash...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing The TSO logon script dumps the user to a READY prompt. Then the user selects either a specific application command for special processing or ISPSTART to get into ISPF

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Carmen Vitullo
to all who had some great input  - I now know lots of ways to get this result if I need them! Billy -- Original Message -- From: "Sri h Kolusu" To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Sent: 6/9/2021 11:55:04 AM Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing did not see anything for ZSTART or an

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Billy Ashton
! Billy -- Original Message -- From: "Sri h Kolusu" To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Sent: 6/9/2021 11:55:04 AM Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing did not see anything for ZSTART or any variable with a Split or Swap command. Billy, I would then check if the user has any recor

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of DAL POS Raphael Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: ISPF startup processing If the logon procedure "dump" the user to the TSO READY prompt what happens if he enters ISPSTART only? Or

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread DAL POS Raphael
y, until proven innocent !!" RDP 2009 -Message d'origine- De : IBM Mainframe Discussion List De la part de Billy Ashton Envoyé : mercredi 9 juin 2021 17:13 À : IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Objet : Re: ISPF startup processing The TSO logon script dumps the user to a READY prompt. Then the

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>did not see anything for ZSTART or any variable with a Split or Swap command. Billy, I would then check if the user has any recorded macros that gets executed at logon. Does the same thing happen if that user logs on from a different PC ? I would also check USERID.ISPF.PROFILE dataset and

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Carmen Vitullo
listserv.ua.edu Sent: 6/9/2021 11:17:15 AM Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing r example, while everyone else starts  ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and  named, but he has no idea how. Billy, He probably has ZSTART coded. Check for the variable ZST

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Billy Ashton
listserv.ua.edu Sent: 6/9/2021 11:17:15 AM Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing r example, while everyone else starts ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and named, but he has no idea how. Billy, He probably has ZSTART coded. Check for the variable ZS

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Carmen Vitullo
: 6/9/2021 11:17:15 AM Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing r example, while everyone else starts  ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and  named, but he has no idea how. Billy, He probably has ZSTART coded. Check for the variable ZSTART from option 7.3 and

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
: "Sri h Kolusu" To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Sent: 6/9/2021 11:17:15 AM Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing >>>r example, while everyone else starts >> ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined >> and named, but he has no idea how. >

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Billy Ashton
Sri h Kolusu" To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Sent: 6/9/2021 11:17:15 AM Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing r example, while everyone else starts ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and named, but he has no idea how. Billy, He probably has ZSTART co

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Billy Ashton
Shalom Itschak, as I would have thought, the Command field is empty, which is why it sits at the READY prompt. -- Original Message -- From: "ITschak Mugzach" To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Sent: 6/9/2021 11:12:27 AM Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing In the logon sc

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread DAL POS Raphael
something happening with ISPSTART. Billy -- Original Message -- From: "Carmen Vitullo" To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Sent: 6/9/2021 11:06:01 AM Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing >Maybe the session manager - startup logon script? > >I recall when I started at my

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>r example, while everyone else starts > ISPF and has one window open, this user has 5 split screens defined and > named, but he has no idea how. Billy, He probably has ZSTART coded. Check for the variable ZSTART from option 7.3 and it should show you how the 5 split screens are set up Thanks,

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Billy Ashton
with ISPSTART. Billy -- Original Message -- From: "Carmen Vitullo" To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Sent: 6/9/2021 11:06:01 AM Subject: Re: ISPF startup processing Maybe the session manager - startup logon script? I recall when I started at my current job the systems folks that manage TP

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread ITschak Mugzach
In the logon screen, what is written in the command field? This is part of the racf Tao segment and loaded at logon time. Maybe it is isotope;split;split;split ITschak בתאריך יום ד׳, 9 ביוני 2021 ב-17:59 מאת Billy Ashton : > Hello all...I don't know if there is an ISPF list, but hope you can

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Maybe the session manager - startup logon script? I recall when I started at my current job the systems folks that manage TPX thought it was a great idea to start a script that puts your session in split screen, one screen SDSF, one ISPF edit Carmen On 6/9/2021 9:58 AM, Billy Ashton

Re: ISPF startup processing

2021-06-09 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
Look for a logon clist/rexx being executed just prior to getting to the IPSF primary menu. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Billy Ashton Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 10:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ISPF startup processing Hello