Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
In zOS v2R1, we hope to have a pointer to their product documentation but will no longer try to keep a copy of it. Kevin Minerley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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(MVS) data areas are not yet ready for v2r1. Kevin Minerley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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But, I really don't like the idea of building my own shelves and I certainly am not interested in significantly increasing my time to download individual products. You shouldn't have to build your own shelves, at least not for products, as the XKS shelf acts exactly like a BKS for each product on the electronic collection kits. Each product has an XKS shelf. zOS, at least, also has some other general interest shelves, for example: messages and codes, commands, diagnosis. This is also the same way it worked on the physical media. Softcopy Librarian (SCL) works with either BKS or XKS. Kevin Minerley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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If you're referring to my comment on indexes, this isn't what I meant. I simply meant the .des files that contain pointers to the actual books, whether in .boo or .pdf format, and the metadata necessary to decide if a book is current or has been superceded. It looks as though IBM is not maintaining those files, perhaps because Softcopy Librarian has gone away along with Softcopy Reader, even though SL supports the IBM-preferred PDF format quite nicely. All the electronic-only deliverables SHOULD have the .des file (it is usually in the root). It still works with Softcopy Librarian (SCL). I usually test by installing the electronic-only then starting SCL to see if updates occur (and usually they do as more products are NOT on the main platform schedule then are on the platform schedule). Easier than what? It was much the easier to let SL do the work... Before with physical-only media, it was all or nothing. Now you can skip getting the entire collection, go to the Publications Center and only download the products of interest (use the XKS shelf name to get the related docs). Of course, you can still use SCL to update either the entire electronic collection or individual shelves. Kevin Minerley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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In cae1xxdgwnqornv4awudrjw4w38cur7yrv-m1zc6mjgxg8qw...@mail.gmail.com, on 09/16/2013 at 04:13 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said: For anything critical one must anyway be sure that one is consulting the most current version of a manual [or its repackaged replacement in some other manual], ObAlanSherman No; for anything critical one must ensure that one uses the correct manual for the level of code that one is using. A manual that is too new can be as bad as a manual that is too old. Some of the posters here are running OS/390; do you really suggest that they use manuals for z/OS V2? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 17 September 2013 07:13, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote: If you're referring to my comment on indexes, this isn't what I meant. I simply meant the .des files that contain pointers to the actual books, whether in .boo or .pdf format, and the metadata necessary to decide if a book is current or has been superceded. It looks as though IBM is not maintaining those files, perhaps because Softcopy Librarian has gone away along with Softcopy Reader, even though SL supports the IBM-preferred PDF format quite nicely. All the electronic-only deliverables SHOULD have the .des file (it is usually in the root). It still works with Softcopy Librarian (SCL). I usually test by installing the electronic-only then starting SCL to see if updates occur (and usually they do as more products are NOT on the main platform schedule then are on the platform schedule). I don't know what that means ( main platform schedule vs platform schedule). Easier than what? It was much the easier to let SL do the work... Before with physical-only media, it was all or nothing. Now you can skip getting the entire collection, go to the Publications Center and only download the products of interest (use the XKS shelf name to get the related docs). But we are surely not contrasting with physical media. I haven't loaded anything from a CD for years. For a long time I've opened Softcopy Librarian, gone to the only Internet source I know of, SL presents me with a list of Product categories: like z/OS V1.13 and Software Products Collection, I choose one, and SL tells me what's neen updated compared to what I have already loaded. Works great. Of course, you can still use SCL to update either the entire electronic collection or individual shelves. Well I could if the .des files were kept up to date, but evidently that's not happening. Which is exactly where we came in 29 posts ago. If the .des files were up to date - in this particular case so that the z/OS V1.13 file contained COBOL V5R1 as well as older COBOLs - Charles would have had no cause to complain. There is surely no reason to tie the .des file content to some now obsolete CD collections. This would be trivial for IBM to fix, but somehow I have the feeling it's not going to happen because it doesn't match someone's idea of how customers should use publications. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I don't know what that means ( main platform schedule vs platform schedule). My bad, typo. The individual product schedules do not all regularly fall on the zOS platform schedule. Base elements usually are on the zOS platform but products like OSA, SMP/E, NFS, ICKDSF, etc don't necessarily have to be. Certainly the languages (PL/I, COBOL) may not completely match the platform schedule. Well I could if the .des files were kept up to date, but evidently that's not happening. Which is exactly where we came in 29 posts ago. If the .des files were up to date - in this particular case so that the z/OS V1.13 file contained COBOL V5R1 as well as older COBOLs - Charles would have had no cause to complain. There is surely no reason to tie the .des file content to some now obsolete CD collections. The collection level .des file gets updated every time the deliverable gets produced and put in (usually) the root directory of the collection. At least at this level, IBM is keeping the collection-level .des file current. If you never intend, to download another collection kit, I am not certain that you will get a new suite of .des files. You might consider downloading at least new versions as they usually involve a complete change of order-number/material ID. That should work even against individual products. I have seen it successfully update r13 docs that did not make the initial electronic-deliverable drop. Have you tried using one of the newer .des files? Kevin Minerley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 17 September 2013 12:03, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote: Well I could if the .des files were kept up to date, but evidently that's not happening. Which is exactly where we came in 29 posts ago. If the .des files were up to date - in this particular case so that the z/OS V1.13 file contained COBOL V5R1 as well as older COBOLs - Charles would have had no cause to complain. There is surely no reason to tie the .des file content to some now obsolete CD collections. The collection level .des file gets updated every time the deliverable gets produced and put in (usually) the root directory of the collection. At least at this level, IBM is keeping the collection-level .des file current. If you never intend, to download another collection kit, I am not certain that you will get a new suite of .des files. You might consider downloading at least new versions as they usually involve a complete change of order-number/material ID. That should work even against individual products. I have seen it successfully update r13 docs that did not make the initial electronic-deliverable drop. Have you tried using one of the newer .des files? I would if I knew where to get one. Softcopy Librarian offers only choices based on the /epubs/df/ebrscrt.des file, and that has the problems I mentioned above: The comments for the files it points to don't seem to be up to date (e.g. the z/OS 1.13 collection is dated Sep 2012, even though the update date on the directory is Sept 2013), so it's hard to know what's a new file and what isn't. And then the actual collection .des files don't seem to have the new material in them, e.g. COBOL V5R1. Or rather, there exists no file *that is pointed to by a top-level .des file* that contains a list of the COBOL V5R1 pubs. Since IBM has disabled the ability to look at the directory, there is no way I know of to find these things other than by discovering an external reference of some kind, which can't be automated. Can you point me at one of these newer files so I'm sure we're talking about the same thing? Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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What I need is perhaps just a kick in the head. Where would I find a .des for, for example COBOL v5? How to I tell my Softcopy Librarian 4.6 to use it? Will it tell SCL where to go get the PDF manuals for this COBOL? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kevin Minerley Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs The only other source is the complete download of a collection kit from Publications center and using Softcopy Librarian against the descriptor file (.des) file therein. It, however, will only be as current as what each individual product decides to put in and many have moved away from any species of BookManager. Kevin Minerley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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The only other source is the complete download of a collection kit from Publications center and using Softcopy Librarian against the descriptor file (.des) file therein. It, however, will only be as current as what each individual product decides to put in and many have moved away from any species of BookManager. Kevin Minerley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Yes, can you give us additional Sources besides http://publib.boulder.ibm.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs On 17 September 2013 12:03, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote: Well I could if the .des files were kept up to date, but evidently that's not happening. Which is exactly where we came in 29 posts ago. If the .des files were up to date - in this particular case so that the z/OS V1.13 file contained COBOL V5R1 as well as older COBOLs - Charles would have had no cause to complain. There is surely no reason to tie the .des file content to some now obsolete CD collections. The collection level .des file gets updated every time the deliverable gets produced and put in (usually) the root directory of the collection. At least at this level, IBM is keeping the collection-level .des file current. If you never intend, to download another collection kit, I am not certain that you will get a new suite of .des files. You might consider downloading at least new versions as they usually involve a complete change of order-number/material ID. That should work even against individual products. I have seen it successfully update r13 docs that did not make the initial electronic- deliverable drop. Have you tried using one of the newer .des files? I would if I knew where to get one. Softcopy Librarian offers only choices based on the /epubs/df/ebrscrt.des file, and that has the problems I mentioned above: The comments for the files it points to don't seem to be up to date (e.g. the z/OS 1.13 collection is dated Sep 2012, even though the update date on the directory is Sept 2013), so it's hard to know what's a new file and what isn't. And then the actual collection .des files don't seem to have the new material in them, e.g. COBOL V5R1. Or rather, there exists no file *that is pointed to by a top-level .des file* that contains a list of the COBOL V5R1 pubs. Since IBM has disabled the ability to look at the directory, there is no way I know of to find these things other than by discovering an external reference of some kind, which can't be automated. Can you point me at one of these newer files so I'm sure we're talking about the same thing? Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Right -- more or less my original question in fact. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs What I need is perhaps just a kick in the head. Where would I find a .des for, for example COBOL v5? How to I tell my Softcopy Librarian 4.6 to use it? Will it tell SCL where to go get the PDF manuals for this COBOL? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Since Cobol 5.1 and z/OS 2.1 haven't been released yet, I would wait until the GA date and see if the bookshelves are updated. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: On 17 September 2013 07:13, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote: deleted Before with physical-only media, it was all or nothing. Now you can skip getting the entire collection, go to the Publications Center and only download the products of interest (use the XKS shelf name to get the related docs). But we are surely not contrasting with physical media. I haven't loaded anything from a CD for years. For a long time I've opened Softcopy Librarian, gone to the only Internet source I know of, SL presents me with a list of Product categories: like z/OS V1.13 and Software Products Collection, I choose one, and SL tells me what's neen updated compared to what I have already loaded. Works great. Of course, you can still use SCL to update either the entire electronic collection or individual shelves. Well I could if the .des files were kept up to date, but evidently that's not happening. Which is exactly where we came in 29 posts ago. If the .des files were up to date - in this particular case so that the z/OS V1.13 file contained COBOL V5R1 as well as older COBOLs - Charles would have had no cause to complain. There is surely no reason to tie the .des file content to some now obsolete CD collections. This would be trivial for IBM to fix, but somehow I have the feeling it's not going to happen because it doesn't match someone's idea of how customers should use publications. Tony H. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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In 5236fff6.3050...@trainersfriend.com, on 09/16/2013 at 06:56 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/v2r1pdf/ Where are the MVS data areas? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:41:33 -0400, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: I guess I must be the only person in the world using these two programs. Strange. I originally got them off of the old z/OS CD and then DVD manual sets, I think. Perhaps when z/OS 2.1 goes GA the end of the month they will provide a documentation bundle that will include COBOL 5.1. Charles You are not the only one! :-) I use them because I also like the shelf format and for the ease of downloading and updating the shelves. For some strange reason, IBM only updates the online collection when they issue new CDs/DVDs for a new release of an operating system. That's why z/VSE and z/VM have newer shelves than z/OS. Apparently IBM still hasn't learned how to use that new fangled Internet thingie yet! :-) (Just look at the complaints about SR, InfoCenter, web pages that have to be accessed in compatibility mode, etc.) -- Dale R. Smith -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Thanks. IBM only updates the online collection when they issue new CDs/DVDs for a new release of an operating system. That was kind of the theory I was developing in my mind. Better than IBM has abandoned the thing entirely. Only two more weeks. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dale R. Smith Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 7:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:41:33 -0400, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: I guess I must be the only person in the world using these two programs. Strange. I originally got them off of the old z/OS CD and then DVD manual sets, I think. Perhaps when z/OS 2.1 goes GA the end of the month they will provide a documentation bundle that will include COBOL 5.1. Charles You are not the only one! :-) I use them because I also like the shelf format and for the ease of downloading and updating the shelves. For some strange reason, IBM only updates the online collection when they issue new CDs/DVDs for a new release of an operating system. That's why z/VSE and z/VM have newer shelves than z/OS. Apparently IBM still hasn't learned how to use that new fangled Internet thingie yet! :-) (Just look at the complaints about SR, InfoCenter, web pages that have to be accessed in compatibility mode, etc.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 9/16/2013 6:08 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Thanks. IBM only updates the online collection when they issue new CDs/DVDs for a new release of an operating system. That was kind of the theory I was developing in my mind. Better than IBM has abandoned the thing entirely. Only two more weeks. Charles Well, not quite what you're after, but I stumbled on this yesterday: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/v2r1pdf/ The COBOL docs can be found here (and other places, I'm sure): http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27036733 -Steve Comstock -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dale R. Smith Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 7:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:41:33 -0400, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: I guess I must be the only person in the world using these two programs. Strange. I originally got them off of the old z/OS CD and then DVD manual sets, I think. Perhaps when z/OS 2.1 goes GA the end of the month they will provide a documentation bundle that will include COBOL 5.1. Charles You are not the only one! :-) I use them because I also like the shelf format and for the ease of downloading and updating the shelves. For some strange reason, IBM only updates the online collection when they issue new CDs/DVDs for a new release of an operating system. That's why z/VSE and z/VM have newer shelves than z/OS. Apparently IBM still hasn't learned how to use that new fangled Internet thingie yet! :-) (Just look at the complaints about SR, InfoCenter, web pages that have to be accessed in compatibility mode, etc.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Though I thought I had heard a year ago, no more CDs/DVDs. At Share in 2012 I thought they said the z/OS V1.13 DVDs were the last ones to be produced. Though I could have not heard that correctly. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 5:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs Thanks. IBM only updates the online collection when they issue new CDs/DVDs for a new release of an operating system. That was kind of the theory I was developing in my mind. Better than IBM has abandoned the thing entirely. Only two more weeks. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dale R. Smith Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 7:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:41:33 -0400, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: I guess I must be the only person in the world using these two programs. Strange. I originally got them off of the old z/OS CD and then DVD manual sets, I think. Perhaps when z/OS 2.1 goes GA the end of the month they will provide a documentation bundle that will include COBOL 5.1. Charles You are not the only one! :-) I use them because I also like the shelf format and for the ease of downloading and updating the shelves. For some strange reason, IBM only updates the online collection when they issue new CDs/DVDs for a new release of an operating system. That's why z/VSE and z/VM have newer shelves than z/OS. Apparently IBM still hasn't learned how to use that new fangled Internet thingie yet! :-) (Just look at the complaints about SR, InfoCenter, web pages that have to be accessed in compatibility mode, etc.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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The zOS, zVSE, and zVM softcopy collections still exist but ONLY in electronic form. Download them from the IBM Publications Center http://www-05.ibm.com/e-business/linkweb/publications/servlet/pbi.wss. Kevin Minerley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 16 September 2013 11:36, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin is right. All of the COBOL 5.1 publications are available for downloading at the IBM Publications website. Thus, for example, the new Language Reference, SC4-7381-00, and the new Programming Guide, SC4-7382-00, are both available. Unfortunately, however, they are available there ONLY as PDFs; and the OP wanted them as Softcopy Librarian documents. He clarified in a later post that he wanted to be able to download using Softcopy Librarian, but had no objection to PDFs. And indeed SL is quite handy for not just downloading, but for its ability to compare what you have downloaded (installed) with what's available, and making it easy to update. Looked at another way, PDFs *are* Softcopy Librarian documents. Over the years I have noted that IBM-MAIN people use this site less than they should. Its facilities for searching on partial titles, single words, and the like are unexcelled. Searching on just 'COBOL 5.1', for example, yielded the titles and a download box for all of the new publications For those many of us wanting to maintain a complete and current set of books for some subject area, Softcopy Librarian provides a nice approach. But SL itself does not contain the hard part. Rather, it depends on the continued maintenance of IBM's indexes; something IBM is showing little sign of doing. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Kevin is right. All of the COBOL 5.1 publications are available for downloading at the IBM Publications website. Thus, for example, the new Language Reference, SC4-7381-00, and the new Programming Guide, SC4-7382-00, are both available. Unfortunately, however, they are available there ONLY as PDFs; and the OP wanted them as Softcopy Librarian documents. Over the years I have noted that IBM-MAIN people use this site less than they should. Its facilities for searching on partial titles, single words, and the like are unexcelled. Searching on just 'COBOL 5.1', for example, yielded the titles and a download box for all of the new publications John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Exactly. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs On 16 September 2013 11:36, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin is right. All of the COBOL 5.1 publications are available for downloading at the IBM Publications website. Thus, for example, the new Language Reference, SC4-7381-00, and the new Programming Guide, SC4-7382-00, are both available. Unfortunately, however, they are available there ONLY as PDFs; and the OP wanted them as Softcopy Librarian documents. He clarified in a later post that he wanted to be able to download using Softcopy Librarian, but had no objection to PDFs. And indeed SL is quite handy for not just downloading, but for its ability to compare what you have downloaded (installed) with what's available, and making it easy to update. Looked at another way, PDFs *are* Softcopy Librarian documents. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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1) As pointed out, Softcopy Library (SCL) can handle PDFS 2) As for indexing all the base zOS elements, many of the zVSE, and zVM will have indexed PDFs and an associated extended (XKS) shelf. We have instituted a request to other non-base products to consider PDF indexing; but that is a product-by-product (rather then platform) decision. Actually, it's now easier to dowload just a product at a time as the XKS shelves are parts of pkits that all have order numbers. Kevin Minerley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Softcopy Librarian is pretty damn easy. While I prefer Bookmanager to PDF for navigation and search, I can live with PDF. But, I really don't like the idea of building my own shelves and I certainly am not interested in significantly increasing my time to download individual products. A nice thing about Softcopy Librarian is that I can get it started on a new collection when I leave for the day and it runs overnight downloading everything. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kevin Minerley Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs 1) As pointed out, Softcopy Library (SCL) can handle PDFS 2) As for indexing all the base zOS elements, many of the zVSE, and zVM will have indexed PDFs and an associated extended (XKS) shelf. We have instituted a request to other non-base products to consider PDF indexing; but that is a product-by-product (rather then platform) decision. Actually, it's now easier to dowload just a product at a time as the XKS shelves are parts of pkits that all have order numbers. Kevin Minerley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
On 16 September 2013 12:45, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote: ) As pointed out, Softcopy Library (SCL) can handle PDFS 2) As for indexing all the base zOS elements, many of the zVSE, and zVM will have indexed PDFs and an associated extended (XKS) shelf. We have instituted a request to other non-base products to consider PDF indexing; but that is a product-by-product (rather then platform) decision. If you're referring to my comment on indexes, this isn't what I meant. I simply meant the .des files that contain pointers to the actual books, whether in .boo or .pdf format, and the metadata necessary to decide if a book is current or has been superceded. It looks as though IBM is not maintaining those files, perhaps because Softcopy Librarian has gone away along with Softcopy Reader, even though SL supports the IBM-preferred PDF format quite nicely. Actually, it's now easier to dowload just a product at a time as the XKS shelves are parts of pkits that all have order numbers. Easier than what? It was much the easier to let SL do the work... Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
Unlike many of you, I keep copies, as PDFs, of only the manuals I access very frequently. They are now so readily available and so easy to download that I do not keep, for example IMS manuals, which I look at only infrequently. Others will of course have different usage/reference patterns. I also understand that bookshelves are convenient, but one sometimes pays a high price for this convenience. Their component manuals are often updated on different schedules, and these changes in atomic-manual availabilities are not always reflected at all promptly in the bookshelves that contain them. For anything critical one must anyway be sure that one is consulting the most current version of a manual [or its repackaged replacement in some other manual], and it is really quite convenient to just download it after ascertaining its publication number. Á chacun son goût. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
Thanks, John. Don't know if I want it that badly. g Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John P. Baker Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs Charles, I have taken a look at several XKS files and have determined that they are nothing more than XML, encoded in UTF-16 Big-Endian format. If you have an appropriate editor, you should be able to create your own. Here is the structure -- ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-1.6 standalone=no? !DOCTYPE XKS PUBLIC -//IBM//BookManager XKS 0.1//EN http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/df/dtd; XKS SHELFHEADER NAME=filename TITLE/TITLE AUTHOR/AUTHOR UPDATE DATETIME=ccyy-mm-ddThh:mm:ss/UPDATE /SHELFHEADER DOCUMENT DOCID=publication number INSTANCE DOCOBJTYPE=application/pdf NAME=filename VALIDATE=NO TITLE/TITLE UPDATE DATETIME=ccyy-mm-ddThh:mm:ss/UPDATE /INSTANCE /DOCUMENT /XKS The specification for NAME in the SHELFHEADER section should be replaced by the 8-character filename of the XKS file, omitting the filename extension and retaining the double quotes, while the settings of the TITLE, AUTHOR, and UPDATE sections are self-explanatory. I do NOT have any information in respect to length limitations for the TITLE and AUTHOR settings. The DOCUMENT section should be repeated for each document to be included in the bookshelf. The specification for DOCID in the DOCUMENT section should be replaced by the IBM publication number, in the format --nn, retaining the double quotes, NAME should be replaced by the 8-character filename of the PDF file, omitting the filename extension and retaining the double quotes, while the settings of the TITLE and UPDATE sections are self-explanatory. Again, I do NOT have any information in respect to length limitations for the TITLE settings. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
Thanks all. Yeah, little problem finding the docs on the Web -- that was not the issue. I just like the organization provided by the Softcopy Reader/Softcopy Librarian combo. Shelves and so forth. Meaningful titles for the mysteriously-named manual files. Ability to download all of the manuals for a given product with a single click. Keeping track of what's newer than what you already have. Etc. Yes, it supports PDF -- although less wonderfully than it supports BookManager. (Of course -- it calls PDFs Extended Shelves. Extended as in less functionality!) I guess I must be the only person in the world using these two programs. Strange. I originally got them off of the old z/OS CD and then DVD manual sets, I think. Perhaps when z/OS 2.1 goes GA the end of the month they will provide a documentation bundle that will include COBOL 5.1. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs That is correct. And I also understand that IBM wants us to use INFOCENTER. I have not determine (cause I have not researched it) how to install that on my PC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
I still use and really like Softcopy Librarian. I have stated my opinion of the phase-out of Bookmanager format here before. My opinion of Infocenter is not fit for a public forum:) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs Thanks all. Yeah, little problem finding the docs on the Web -- that was not the issue. I just like the organization provided by the Softcopy Reader/Softcopy Librarian combo. Shelves and so forth. Meaningful titles for the mysteriously-named manual files. Ability to download all of the manuals for a given product with a single click. Keeping track of what's newer than what you already have. Etc. Yes, it supports PDF -- although less wonderfully than it supports BookManager. (Of course -- it calls PDFs Extended Shelves. Extended as in less functionality!) I guess I must be the only person in the world using these two programs. Strange. I originally got them off of the old z/OS CD and then DVD manual sets, I think. Perhaps when z/OS 2.1 goes GA the end of the month they will provide a documentation bundle that will include COBOL 5.1. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs That is correct. And I also understand that IBM wants us to use INFOCENTER. I have not determine (cause I have not researched it) how to install that on my PC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
Okay! Dave, can you find any Enterprise COBOL 5.1 shelf for Softcopy Librarian? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs I still use and really like Softcopy Librarian. I have stated my opinion of the phase-out of Bookmanager format here before. My opinion of Infocenter is not fit for a public forum:) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
No :), but I won't be looking anytime soon. Given the recent revelations about that version of COBOL and that actually, we are still on IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS and OS/390 3.1.0, with a moribund mainframe :( COBOL 5.1 is not even on my list of would be nice to do some day. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs Okay! Dave, can you find any Enterprise COBOL 5.1 shelf for Softcopy Librarian? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs I still use and really like Softcopy Librarian. I have stated my opinion of the phase-out of Bookmanager format here before. My opinion of Infocenter is not fit for a public forum:) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
On 13 September 2013 15:14, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Okay! Dave, can you find any Enterprise COBOL 5.1 shelf for Softcopy Librarian? I did a little poking around, since it wasn't obvious where Softcopy Librarian was getting its info. You set up an Internet source such as http://publib.boulder.ibm.com (I can't remember if SR comes with this built in, or if I got it from somewhere else, but I think the former.) So when you click on it, SL does an HTML GET for /epubs/df/ebrscrt.des on that site. This file contains a barely structured list of filenames and comments, and *that* is where that Sep 2012 string on the z/OS V1R13 and Software Products Collection PDF/BookMgr comes from. Evidently no one changed the comment, even though the file dates are 13 Sept 2013. So the file for this Collection is /epubs/df/zosv1r13.des, and that, despite the same .des filetype, contains a much more structured - though not XML - list of .bks, .xks, .boo and .pdf files, and some other metadata. You can see these in a browser, but unfortunately the directories containing the files (/epubs/book, /epubs/pdf, and /epubs/bkshelf) are not listable. Now looking at the page http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27036733 that was mentioned for COBOL, the PDF files are on the very same publib.boulder.ibm.com server as the SL files. So all it would take would be for someone at IBM pubs (if there's anyone left), to edit the file zosv1r13.des and insert six PDF filenames for COBOL. Or they could do it right and actually create a .xks bookshelf file as well; even Softcopy Reader can do that. As for whether there's any way to fake this by putting your own descriptor files somewhere, well perhaps, if you have a local web server that can serve the /epubs/df directory locally, and redirect all others to the IBM site. Or perhaps you could use the proxy support in SL to redirect selectively. But then you'd still need to know the filenames, and by the time you've done that you might as well do it all (heh) manually. Friday Fun. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
Charles, I have taken a look at several XKS files and have determined that they are nothing more than XML, encoded in UTF-16 Big-Endian format. If you have an appropriate editor, you should be able to create your own. Here is the structure -- ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-1.6 standalone=no? !DOCTYPE XKS PUBLIC -//IBM//BookManager XKS 0.1//EN http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/df/dtd; XKS SHELFHEADER NAME=filename TITLE/TITLE AUTHOR/AUTHOR UPDATE DATETIME=ccyy-mm-ddThh:mm:ss/UPDATE /SHELFHEADER DOCUMENT DOCID=publication number INSTANCE DOCOBJTYPE=application/pdf NAME=filename VALIDATE=NO TITLE/TITLE UPDATE DATETIME=ccyy-mm-ddThh:mm:ss/UPDATE /INSTANCE /DOCUMENT /XKS The specification for NAME in the SHELFHEADER section should be replaced by the 8-character filename of the XKS file, omitting the filename extension and retaining the double quotes, while the settings of the TITLE, AUTHOR, and UPDATE sections are self-explanatory. I do NOT have any information in respect to length limitations for the TITLE and AUTHOR settings. The DOCUMENT section should be repeated for each document to be included in the bookshelf. The specification for DOCID in the DOCUMENT section should be replaced by the IBM publication number, in the format --nn, retaining the double quotes, NAME should be replaced by the 8-character filename of the PDF file, omitting the filename extension and retaining the double quotes, while the settings of the TITLE and UPDATE sections are self-explanatory. Again, I do NOT have any information in respect to length limitations for the TITLE settings. John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 3:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs Okay! Dave, can you find any Enterprise COBOL 5.1 shelf for Softcopy Librarian? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs I still use and really like Softcopy Librarian. I have stated my opinion of the phase-out of Bookmanager format here before. My opinion of Infocenter is not fit for a public forum:) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
Lizette Koehler wrote: No more BOO books I think. Only PDF Older versions like 4.2 and earlier have 2 types: BOO and PDF. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27036733 That is one mother of a COBOL link with links to 7 versions of Enterprise COBOL and other nice resources! Ok, however there are no nice search facilities across bookshelves, but never mind. Thanks Lizette! ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
Only thing I can find is this Windows 4.0. These are both from 2012 http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24001220 IBM Softcopy Reader for Windows V4.0 http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24000640 IBM Softcopy Librarian V4.6 Since I use Mozilla with DOWNTHEMALL - I have no problem bringing down the PDF files enmass Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs Sorry. I was not clear. (My excuse is I am sitting in an airport on weather hold.) I don't mean the IBM proprietary book *format.* Yeah, I like the search on those but that's a different topic. PDF is fine. The program I use to read the docs is IBM Softcopy Reader 3.8. I like the way it organizes the books in shelves (including the PDFs). The program I use to download docs is called (IBM) SoftCopy Librarian 4. It retrieves books from the Internet (?) or IBM Publib Boulder. I like that it works with the Bookshelf organization. THAT is the program in which the IBM repositories show as a year back-dated. THAT is the problem I am trying to solve. Okay, am I clearer now? Thanks, and apologies. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs No more BOO books I think. Only PDF http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27036733 Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs I use IBM BookManager on Windows, and IBM Softcopy Librarian. I am looking for Enterprise COBOL V5R1 docs in either the IBM Publib Boulder or Internet source and not finding anything. The z/OS bookshelves have not been updated this year (but VSE and VM were updated as recently as this past July). What am I missing? Am I the last person in the world using BookManager on Windows? Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
No more BOO books I think. Only PDF http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27036733 Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs I use IBM BookManager on Windows, and IBM Softcopy Librarian. I am looking for Enterprise COBOL V5R1 docs in either the IBM Publib Boulder or Internet source and not finding anything. The z/OS bookshelves have not been updated this year (but VSE and VM were updated as recently as this past July). What am I missing? Am I the last person in the world using BookManager on Windows? Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
Sorry. I was not clear. (My excuse is I am sitting in an airport on weather hold.) I don't mean the IBM proprietary book *format.* Yeah, I like the search on those but that's a different topic. PDF is fine. The program I use to read the docs is IBM Softcopy Reader 3.8. I like the way it organizes the books in shelves (including the PDFs). The program I use to download docs is called (IBM) SoftCopy Librarian 4. It retrieves books from the Internet (?) or IBM Publib Boulder. I like that it works with the Bookshelf organization. THAT is the program in which the IBM repositories show as a year back-dated. THAT is the problem I am trying to solve. Okay, am I clearer now? Thanks, and apologies. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs No more BOO books I think. Only PDF http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27036733 Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs I use IBM BookManager on Windows, and IBM Softcopy Librarian. I am looking for Enterprise COBOL V5R1 docs in either the IBM Publib Boulder or Internet source and not finding anything. The z/OS bookshelves have not been updated this year (but VSE and VM were updated as recently as this past July). What am I missing? Am I the last person in the world using BookManager on Windows? Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
The COBOL manuals can be found here: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27036733 As far as updates to the z/OS library, zVSE and zVM have had new releases more recently than z/OS. That may explain why there are no z/OS updates. Lizette is correct that z/OS 2.1 is PDF-only so say goodbye to Softcopy Reader. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
That is correct. And I also understand that IBM wants us to use INFOCENTER. I have not determine (cause I have not researched it) how to install that on my PC Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs The COBOL manuals can be found here: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27036733 As far as updates to the z/OS library, zVSE and zVM have had new releases more recently than z/OS. That may explain why there are no z/OS updates. Lizette is correct that z/OS 2.1 is PDF-only so say goodbye to Softcopy Reader. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
