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The Education, Mentoring and Outreach Directorate (emodir) Directorate will hold
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The Education, Mentoring and Outreach Directorate (emodir) Directorate will hold
a virtual interim meeting on 2022-01-27 from 09:00 to 10:00 America/Los_Angeles
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Agenda:
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• Newcomer’s Program update
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The Education, Mentoring and Outreach Directorate (emodir) Directorate will hold
a virtual interim meeting (WG Chairs Forum) on 2021-11-30 from 23:00 to 00:00
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Agenda:
-- Administrative and Agenda bash
-- Report on recent WG Chairs training
-- Update on WG Chairs site (chairs.ietf.org
The Education, Mentoring and Outreach Directorate (emodir) Directorate will hold
a virtual interim meeting (WG Chairs Forum) on 2021-11-30 from 16:00 to 17:00
UTC.
Agenda:
-- Administrative and Agenda bash
-- Report on recent WG Chairs training
-- Update on WG Chairs site (chairs.ietf.org
The IETF Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate (emodir) [0]
strives to enhance the productivity of IETF work, expand the
diversity and inclusiveness of the IETF, and enable the IETF to
facilitate technical development and innovation in the Internet. The
directorate is made up of inv
Reminder that this call for volunteers closes this Friday, October 23.
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The IETF community has enjoyed the support of the IETF Education (EDU) team for
decades. Several years ago, the Education, Mentoring, and Outreach Directorate
(EMODIR) was created to coordinate a larger array of activities aimed at
expanding the IETF community and the productivity of its work
We wanted to provide an update to the community about some changes in the
leadership of IETF education and mentoring activities.
Wes Hardaker and Niels ten Oever are now co-leading the IETF Mentoring program.
The program will be run roughly the same as previously for IETF 101. After
The goals of the IETF Education and Mentoring Directorate are to enhance
the productivity of IETF work, expand diversity and inclusiveness of the
IETF, and enable the IETF to facilitate technical development and
innovation in the Internet.
In support of this goal, this directorate will structure
Hi all,
In Toronto we will once again be running the IETF Mentoring Program. We
will be pairing IETF participants who are new or otherwise in need of
guidance with existing IETF participants. Unlike at previous meetings,
anyone will be able to sign up for a mentor regardless of how many
meetings
All,
At IETF 89 we will once again offer the IETF Mentoring Program. The goal
of the IETF Mentoring Program is to match IETF participants who may be new
or otherwise in need of guidance with experienced IETF mentors. As a
mentoring participant, your mentor will personally introduce you
Hi all,
In London we will once again be running the IETF Mentoring Program. We
will be pairing IETF participants who are new or otherwise in need of
guidance with existing IETF participants. Unlike at previous meetings,
anyone will be able to sign up for a mentor regardless of how many
meetings
Hector,
You raise an important point - and one that isn't just about mentoring, but the
overall approach in our ability to involve more remote participation. We have
and will continue to improve the facilities to improve the remote participation
experience. Looking back, one big change
On 7/20/13 10:47 AM, Hector Santos wrote:
I was somewhat hoping to see more done in the mentor area of assisting
electronic participants. Of coarse, this sort of electronic mentoring
it could include an end goal to get folks more involved with the IETF
directly, i.e. go to meetings, become
On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Hector Santos hsan...@isdg.net wrote:
What generally happens when an individual I-D is submitted? Is there an
overseer of the submissions and decides there is something that interest the
IETF?
Hmm. Define IETF. It is in some sense an organization (I call it a
Overall, I think the IETF has a marketing problem addressing its #1
customer base - electronic participants.
I was somewhat hoping to see more done in the mentor area of assisting
electronic participants. Of coarse, this sort of electronic mentoring it
could include an end goal to get folks
On 20/03/2013 01:23, Spencer Dawkins wrote:
On 3/19/2013 8:01 PM, Ben Campbell wrote:
I think this means we should closely consider the goals of a mentoring
effort. Is it to help them navigate the IETF structure, personalities,
and immune system to get something done? Is it to help them
On Mar 20, 2013, at 3:09 AM, Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com
wrote:
However, I think an important part of that is ensuring that people
do *not* focus exclusively on a specific target, even if they are
busy people as Ben said.
Change the sense of ensuring to encouraging, and I
On 20/03/2013 13:42, Ben Campbell wrote:
On Mar 20, 2013, at 3:09 AM, Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com
wrote:
However, I think an important part of that is ensuring that people
do *not* focus exclusively on a specific target, even if they are
busy people as Ben said.
Change
On Mar 19, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Carsten Bormann c...@tzi.org wrote:
On Mar 19, 2013, at 13:22, Michael Richardson m...@sandelman.ca wrote:
Instead of getting a new badge every meeting, maybe we should just get
an IETF86 dot on a badge we keep from meeting to meeting.
I want my badge on a
Jeffrey == Jeffrey Haas jh...@pfrc.org writes:
Jeffrey Such an exercise would probably generate a lot less
Jeffrey controversy than my unsanctioned badge experiment.
Jeffrey http://pfrc.org/~jhaas/pictures/badge.jpg
nice.
Instead of getting a new badge every meeting, maybe we
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 08:22:46AM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
Jeffrey == Jeffrey Haas jh...@pfrc.org writes:
Jeffrey Such an exercise would probably generate a lot less
Jeffrey controversy than my unsanctioned badge experiment.
Jeffrey
On Mar 19, 2013, at 13:22, Michael Richardson m...@sandelman.ca wrote:
Instead of getting a new badge every meeting, maybe we should just get
an IETF86 dot on a badge we keep from meeting to meeting.
I want my badge on a shiny embossed metal plate with the words protocol
police on it.
Where
At 10:08 AM 3/19/2013, Jeffrey Haas wrote:
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 08:22:46AM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
Jeffrey == Jeffrey Haas jh...@pfrc.org writes:
Jeffrey Such an exercise would probably generate a lot less
Jeffrey controversy than my unsanctioned badge experiment.
On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Mary Barnes mary.ietf.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
That's a really good idea!
Mary.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com wrote:
I think it might also be worth encouraging working group chairs to have
working group breakfast or lunch
Group Chair Office Hours, which
we said was targeting authors or design teams that wanted to talk with us. We
could update that to also include newcomers.
I also find myself mentoring ISOC Fellows, which are a special case of
newbies. For them, I routinely offer to meet on Sunday morning
On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Ben Campbell b...@nostrum.com wrote:
On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Mary Barnes mary.ietf.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
That's a really good idea!
Mary.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com wrote:
I think it might also be worth
on about the IETF in general.
A few of these people will stay around and become leaders in their area of
interest, and maybe the IETF in general. Most won't. And that's probably
okay--or at least the best we can expect.
I think this means we should closely consider the goals of a mentoring effort
On 3/19/2013 8:01 PM, Ben Campbell wrote:
I think this means we should closely consider the goals of a mentoring effort.
Is it to help them navigate the IETF structure, personalities, and immune
system to get something done? Is it to help them become the next generation of
IETF leaders? I
John,
Fine plan if we can put a stop to having breakfast and lunch be
the prime target for assorted management and coordination
meetings.
Yes.
I would, however, favor conducting a lottery among, say,
first-year attendees (but not first time unless they qualified
by useful mailing list
.
- However tempting, I don't think ADs / WG chairs are ideal mentoring
choices. During the IETF week they are drenched in work with their area
directoring/ working group chairing duties and most of them won't
have a lot of time for meeting newcomers and attending to their needs.
- Mentors SHOULD
Meet-and-Greet thread).
- However tempting, I don't think ADs / WG chairs are ideal mentoring
choices. During the IETF week they are drenched in work with their area
directoring/ working group chairing duties and most of them won't
have a lot of time for meeting newcomers and attending
Yes and no.
I would get rid of all the dots, possible yes.
The new attendee tag, not sure. May change it for a dot.
The tags is useful to identify new people and help. A mentor tag or dot
would be useful to people for not thinking that you are a weirdo trying
to
On 3/18/2013 2:34 PM, Arturo Servin wrote:
Yes and no.
I would get rid of all the dots, possible yes.
In general, I like the scope of what's being questioned in the past week
or so, even if the answer comes back we talked about this, and the
other stuff we could think of
Hi Spencer,
At 13:49 18-03-2013, Spencer Dawkins wrote:
There are dots, and then there are dots. The one I'd like to see
continued the most is the orange dot, for Nomcom members. We choose
the voting members at random out of a volunteer pool, with some
qualifications but not a lot, for a
I wouldn't mind replacing my blue dot with an indication *what* WG I chair, and
in which area that is.
Might be a bit more logistics when chairs change, but nothing that can't be
solved with a DYMO labelmaker.
Grüße, Carsten
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:10:14PM +0100, Carsten Bormann wrote:
I wouldn't mind replacing my blue dot with an indication *what* WG I chair,
and in which area that is.
Might be a bit more logistics when chairs change, but nothing that can't be
solved with a DYMO labelmaker.
Since I live
Hi Seiichi,
At 07:55 AM 3/14/2013, Seiichi Kawamura wrote:
I cannot belive that I'm seeing this thread on an IETF list.
I run a NOG, and we've been through this many times and we're alread
over it. Don't call them 'newbies'. Don't think that having the
Yes.
It's all about PEER involvement.
On 3/14/2013 10:51 AM, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
One thing that I suspect newcomers would also like a pointer to is
http://www.ietf.org/wg/chair-photos.html, and clarity on the use of the data
tracker to identify internet drafts in a working group. This might come down to
a newcomer's page (as
Along the thread there have been great ideas on how to do mentoring to
newcomers; I just want to point out something.
Mentoring is not only about WG chairs, IAB and IESG, it seems to me
that we want to pass the problem to them. My opinion is that anyone that
has come to the IETF
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On 3/15/13 9:35 AM, Arturo Servin wrote:
Along the thread there have been great ideas on how to do mentoring
to newcomers; I just want to point out something.
Mentoring is not only about WG chairs, IAB and IESG, it seems to
me that we want
I agree that this is not just for the formal leaders. But mentoring is also not
for everyone. I would guess that WG chairs, IAB and IESG members are more
likely to know who would be good mentors for a particular group or area. Eugene
Terrell would not be a good mentor, despite having authored
for the formal leaders. But mentoring is also
not for everyone. I would guess that WG chairs, IAB and IESG members are more
likely to know who would be good mentors for a particular group or area.
Eugene Terrell would not be a good mentor, despite having authored 16 drafts.
Even ignoring such extreme
sessions are more useful for giving
newcomers an opportunity to meet relevant WG Chairs (for
example) than for setting up any sort of mentoring relationship.
It may be worth thinking a bit about some other ways of
establishing relevant contacts, perhaps (as is done with ISOC
IETF Fellows) even
those sessions are more useful for giving
newcomers an opportunity to meet relevant WG Chairs (for
example) than for setting up any sort of mentoring relationship.
It may be worth thinking a bit about some other ways of
establishing relevant contacts, perhaps (as is done with ISOC
IETF Fellows
Mary,
I need to check but...
[MB] What I find interesting is that there was 200+ newcomers, but I
certainly didn't find that many at the meet and greet. I have to
wonder whether this doesn't have to do with the overlap between Sunday
tutorials and this event. I think that needs to be
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Adrian Farrel adr...@olddog.co.uk wrote:
Mary,
I need to check but...
[MB] What I find interesting is that there was 200+ newcomers, but I
certainly didn't find that many at the meet and greet. I have to
wonder whether this doesn't have to do with the
All,
This is the agenda for Sunday:
1000-1200 EDTIEPG Meeting - Caribbean 4
1100-1900 EDTIETF Registration - Caribbean Registration
1300-1450 EDTIEEE 802.1Q - Caribbean 5
1300-1450 EDTNewcomers' Orientation - Caribbean 4
1500-1650 EDTIAOC Overview Session - Caribbean 6
On 3/14/2013 7:30 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote:
Mary,
I need to check but...
[MB] What I find interesting is that there was 200+ newcomers, but I
certainly didn't find that many at the meet and greet. I have to
wonder whether this doesn't have to do with the overlap between Sunday
tutorials and
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Loa Andersson l...@pi.nu wrote:
All,
This is the agenda for Sunday:
1000-1200 EDTIEPG Meeting - Caribbean 4
1100-1900 EDTIETF Registration - Caribbean Registration
1300-1450 EDTIEEE 802.1Q - Caribbean 5
1300-1450 EDTNewcomers' Orientation -
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Spencer Dawkins
spen...@wonderhamster.org wrote:
On 3/14/2013 7:30 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote:
Mary,
I need to check but...
[MB] What I find interesting is that there was 200+ newcomers, but I
certainly didn't find that many at the meet and greet. I have to
Thanks for that Mary.
Looks like you have found an issue that has crept in. Certainly now on my
list for the schedule
planning for Berlin.
I was *sure* that when the IAOC session was being planned we set bounds that
this must stop before
the newbies welcome because both the newcomers *and*
On 03/14/13 08:23, Mary Barnes allegedly wrote:
One question I have is whether there isn't a list for newcomers to ask
questions that some of us can be on to help them before they get to
the meeting?
like
questions would be helpful.
I think doing some mentor-newcomer matching before the meeting
(as ISOC does) would be very useful and newcomer introductions
and people approaching them would facilitate that, maybe without
needing a process.
Also, it might help to setup a mentoring group and related
On 3/14/2013 7:53 AM, John C Klensin wrote:
(2) Our newcomers model doesn't distinguish likely long-term
participants from tourists. I think we should be welcoming to
the tourists but, in terms of, e.g., scarce mentoring resources,
spending time on them is a bad optimization. In addition
On 3/14/2013 8:49 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
On 03/14/13 08:23, Mary Barnes allegedly wrote:
One question I have is whether there isn't a list for newcomers to ask
questions that some of us can be on to help them before they get to
the meeting?
like
+1
And well advertised on one or more IETF
FWIW, the IETF home page has a link (top left) for Chat Live with the IETF
Community
In the 6 months that I used to turn up there regularly, I saw very few other
people, but did handle
a couple of relatively newbie questions.
I offer this only as a data point to inform subsequent work.
Adrian
I think such a list is a great idea. Perhaps it would be good to have
this available as a 'safe place' for any (newbie, twobie or whatever)
to ask questions, and just call it a 'mentors' list...
Lou
On March 14, 2013 9:13:15 AM Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote:
On 3/14/2013 8:49 AM,
--On Thursday, 14 March, 2013 07:41 -0500 Mary Barnes
mary.ietf.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
[MB] It would be interesting to know then how many newcomers
check in on Sunday versus Monday morning. Maybe we could move
the Meet 'n Greet til later in the week (maybe Wed. pm in
place of WG chairs
Hi,
I sent the following proposal to Alissa yesterday after she spoke on the mike:
What if we created an ietf-mentors list that all newcomers were
auto-subscribed to. Those of us who want to mentor send a brief description
of who they are and what they work on to the list, and the newcomers
Message-
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Spencer
Dawkins
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:37 AM
To: adr...@olddog.co.uk
Cc: John C Klensin; IETF-Discussion list; The IESG
Subject: Re: Mentoring
On 3/14/2013 7:30 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote:
Mary,
I need
I think it might also be worth encouraging working group chairs to have working
group breakfast or lunch meetings (RSVP required) where newcomers are invited
to come meet the chairs and chairs can strategically invite a few return
attendees (but fewer than newcomers so they don't get crowded
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On 3/14/13 10:03 AM, Ted Lemon wrote:
I think it might also be worth encouraging working group chairs to
have working group breakfast or lunch meetings (RSVP required)
where newcomers are invited to come meet the chairs and chairs can
On 14/03/2013 13:41, John C Klensin wrote:
--On Thursday, 14 March, 2013 07:41 -0500 Mary Barnes
mary.ietf.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
[MB] It would be interesting to know then how many newcomers
check in on Sunday versus Monday morning. Maybe we could move
the Meet 'n Greet til later in the week
-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Ted Lemon
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:04 PM
To: Mary Barnes
Cc: John C Klensin; adr...@olddog.co.uk; IETF-Discussion list; The
IESG
Subject: Re: Mentoring
I think it might also be worth encouraging working group chairs to have
working group breakfast
That's a really good idea!
Mary.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com wrote:
I think it might also be worth encouraging working group chairs to have
working group breakfast or lunch meetings (RSVP required) where newcomers are
invited to come meet the chairs and
On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote:
And well advertised on one or more IETF web pages.
We can also give newbies information when they register, and have the
registration folks call their attention to it. It's a five-second thing when
handing them their
On 14/03/2013 12:30, Adrian Farrel wrote:
Mary,
I need to check but...
[MB] What I find interesting is that there was 200+ newcomers, but I
certainly didn't find that many at the meet and greet. I have to
wonder whether this doesn't have to do with the overlap between Sunday
tutorials
On Mar 14, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com wrote:
I think it might also be worth encouraging working group chairs to have
working group breakfast or lunch meetings (RSVP required) where newcomers are
invited to come meet the chairs and chairs can strategically invite a
--On Thursday, 14 March, 2013 14:03 + Ted Lemon
ted.le...@nominum.com wrote:
I think it might also be worth encouraging working group
chairs to have working group breakfast or lunch meetings (RSVP
required) where newcomers are invited to come meet the chairs
and chairs can strategically
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On 3/14/13 10:30 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
On Mar 14, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com
wrote:
I think it might also be worth encouraging working group chairs
to have working group breakfast or lunch meetings (RSVP
required) where
: John C Klensin; IETF-Discussion list; The IESG
Subject: Re: Mentoring
On 3/14/2013 7:30 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote:
Mary,
I need to check but...
[MB] What I find interesting is that there was 200+ newcomers, but I
certainly didn't find that many at the meet and greet. I have to
wonder whether
Ted == Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com writes:
Ted I think it might also be worth encouraging working group chairs
Ted to have working group breakfast or lunch meetings (RSVP
Ted required) where newcomers are invited to come meet the chairs
Ted and chairs can strategically invite
--On Thursday, 14 March, 2013 14:07 + Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
droma...@avaya.com wrote:
I like it a lot!
Starting with IETF-87 I will reserve a breakfast slot for the
WG I am co-chairing and invite (in advance, the week before
the meeting) the new attendees interested in this WG to
On Mar 14, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Yoav Nir y...@checkpoint.com
wrote:
There's over 100 working groups, and about 5 slots, because lunch is often
busy for WG chairs (*DIR this, and tutorial that, and design team the other).
So where would you hold 25 parallel breakfast meetings? How would we ever
On Mar 14, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Scott Brim s...@internet2.edu wrote:
On 03/14/13 08:23, Mary Barnes allegedly wrote:
One question I have is whether there isn't a list for newcomers to ask
questions that some of us can be on to help them before they get to
the meeting?
like
Yes, like
One
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Yoav Nir
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:30 PM
To: Ted Lemon
Cc: John C Klensin; adr...@olddog.co.uk; IETF-Discussion list; The
IESG
Subject: Re: Mentoring
On Mar 14, 2013, at 10:03
I cannot belive that I'm seeing this thread on an IETF list.
I run a NOG, and we've been through this many times and we're alread
over it. Don't call them 'newbies'. Don't think that having the
chairs or whatevers talk to new comers on sunday mornings will make them
happy and increase their
On 14-03-2013 06:46, Eggert, Lars wrote:
Hi,
I sent the following proposal to Alissa yesterday after she spoke on
the mike:
What if we created an ietf-mentors list that all newcomers were
auto-subscribed to. Those of us who want to mentor send a brief
description of who they are and what
On Mar 14, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Seiichi Kawamura kawamu...@mesh.ad.jp wrote:
Don't call them 'newbies'.
The term is not meant to be offensive—I'm sorry that it came off that way.
All of us are newbies from time to time as we wander through the various
working groups in the IETF. I became a
Good idea, but do not constrict it to WG only. Also include people
from the IAB, IESG, draft authors and some random people.
Also pick a topic of interest, let the mentors to lead and encourage
the discussion.
Regards,
as
On 14-03-2013 07:05, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
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Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:43 PM
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Cc: adr...@olddog.co.uk; IETF-Discussion list; The IESG; Shida
Schubert
Subject: RE: Mentoring
--On Thursday, 14 March, 2013 14:07 + Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
droma
Anything along the lines of mentoring the virtual world of IETF
participants? :)
Mr. Klensin, if it wasn't for you, I would of probably lost interest in
the IETF long ago. You have reached out and assisted in more ways you
should be made aware it was very much needed and welcomed. Thank you
On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) droma...@avaya.com wrote:
I personally believe that while strongly recommending to the WG chairs to
adopt the concept we should leave the implementation up to each of them
without much formalization and process building. Let us not forget
These are some cool ideas, and I think we need to try some or all of them.
I'm happy to support a newcomers list if we do that, as well as the
development of the informational packet for newcomers. I also like the
billeting notion; if I were to be paired up with a newcomer, something
like meeting
Ted == Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com writes:
I personally believe that while strongly recommending to the WG
chairs to adopt the concept we should leave the implementation up
to each of them without much formalization and process
building. Let us not forget that we will
I haven't observed that many newcomers at the newcomer meet-and-greet.
They seem to be overwhelmed (numerically) by the ADs+chairs that go, which
is reinforced by ADs+chairs using it as a taking-care-of-business
opportunity as John observed.
So, also along the much as I like free beer, maybe it
Hi,
On Mar 14, 2013, at 16:26, Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't observed that many newcomers at the newcomer meet-and-greet.
They seem to be overwhelmed (numerically) by the ADs+chairs that go, which
is reinforced by ADs+chairs using it as a taking-care-of-business
On 3/14/13 4:31 PM, Eggert, Lars wrote:
Hi,
On Mar 14, 2013, at 16:26, Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't observed that many newcomers at the newcomer meet-and-greet.
They seem to be overwhelmed (numerically) by the ADs+chairs that go, which
is reinforced by ADs+chairs
On 3/14/2013 3:07 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
As to the newcomer meet and greet... I actually think we got it a bit
backwards. I think that WG chairs should be uninvited. (as much as I
like free beer). Rather, I think that the newcomer meet and greet
(and free beer) should follow the
Spencer == Spencer Dawkins spen...@wonderhamster.org writes:
As to the newcomer meet and greet... I actually think we got it a
bit backwards. I think that WG chairs should be uninvited. (as
much as I like free beer). Rather, I think that the newcomer
meet and greet (and
WG Chairs (for
example) than for setting up any sort of mentoring relationship.
It may be worth thinking a bit about some other ways of
establishing relevant contacts, perhaps (as is done with ISOC
IETF Fellows) even getting those relationships in place before
the newcomer shows up.
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