Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home.

2013-09-11 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Olafur Gudmundsson o...@ogud.com Sent: Sep 11, 2013 7:19 AM To: Evan Hunt e...@isc.org Cc: dn...@ietf.org WG dn...@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org TF ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home. ... RRSIG on the SOA or NS or DNSKEY also is fine timestamp

Re: Charging remote participants

2013-08-26 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Dave Aronson ietf2d...@davearonson.com To: IETF Discussion Mailing List ietf@ietf.org; Janet P Gunn jgu...@csc.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: Charging remote participants ... I had to go Google that. To save others the trouble: it seems to refer to

re: Last Call: draft-bormann-cbor-04.txt (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-13 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Yaron Sheffer yaronf.i...@gmail.com Sent: Aug 13, 2013 2:11 PM To: IETF Discussion Mailing List ietf@ietf.org Subject: re: Last Call: draft-bormann-cbor-04.txt (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard ... - The diagnostic notation can be used very

Re: IETF Diversity

2013-06-19 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - It seems as though participants in this thread are operating with different understandings of what constitutes institutional bias. A critical difference is whether *intent* is necessary for bias to exist. As I understand it, institutional bias can exist in the absence of ill intent, and

Re: Content-free Last Call comments

2013-06-12 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com Sent: Jun 12, 2013 12:42 PM To: Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im Cc: ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com, Alexey Melnikov alexey.melni...@isode.com, Pete Resnick presn...@qti.qualcomm.com, ietf@ietf.org Discussion ietf@ietf.org

Re: [IETF] Re: Issues in wider geographic participation

2013-05-30 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Adrian Farrel adr...@olddog.co.uk ... But who pays the operators' bills, and do we need to encourage participation at that level as well? Participation as: RFC uptake: - using something based on an RFC? - deploying something based on an RFC? -

Re: More participation from under-represented regions

2013-05-26 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - Watching this discussion scroll by on my screen, I'm amazed how similar it is to discussions of evangelism in congregations. Two things this religious institution might learn from other religious institutions: (1) need-based evangelism. Outreach efforts are more effective if they

Re: Language editing

2013-05-07 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com To: Ned Freed ned.fr...@mrochek.com Cc: John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com; yaronf.i...@gmail.com; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 2:19 PM Subject: Re: Language editing ... You are correct if only considering the mail

Re: last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-28 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Michael Richardson mcr+i...@sandelman.ca To: ietf ietf@ietf.org; Andrew McGregor andrewm...@gmail.com Cc: Christian Huitema huit...@microsoft.com; SM s...@resistor.net Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 5:47 AM Subject: Re: last call comments for

Re: Diversity of IETF Leadership

2013-03-12 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Dan Harkins dhark...@lounge.org To: Margaret Wasserman m...@lilacglade.org Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:56 AM Subject: Re: Diversity of IETF Leadership ... If there's some bias involved in the Nomcom's selection process then point it out and let's address

Re: Vestigial Features (was Re: CRLF (was: Re: A modest proposal))

2013-01-23 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com To: Carsten Bormann c...@tzi.org Cc: John Levine jo...@taugh.com; ietf@ietf.org; dean.wil...@softarmor.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:20 PM Subject: Re: Vestigial Features (was Re: CRLF (was: Re: A modest proposal)) ... So, yes, some

Re: Common sense, process, and the nature of change

2012-11-09 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Scott Brim s...@internet2.edu To: Ted Hardie ted.i...@gmail.com Cc: IETF ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:32 AM Subject: Re: Common sense, process, and the nature of change Ted: Very nice but I would go further. You believe that everyone in the IETF has either

Re: [OPSAWG] Basic ietf process question ...

2012-08-03 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) droma...@avaya.com Cc: ops...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] Basic ietf process question ... ... NMS developers need to spend too many resources on translating naming

Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech industry ? The Register

2012-05-01 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Yoav Nir y...@checkpoint.com To: Mary Barnes mary.ietf.bar...@gmail.com Cc: IETF-Discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:12 AM Subject: Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech industry ? The Register ... IOW I don't see the difference between not wanting

Re: Proposed IESG Statement on the Conclusion of Experiments

2012-04-20 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com To: Adrian Farrel adr...@olddog.co.uk Cc: IETF Disgust ietf@ietf.org; IESG i...@ietf.org Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 2:04 AM Subject: Re: Proposed IESG Statement on the Conclusion of Experiments one aspect that may be missed is that there is a body of

Re: ITC copped out on UTC again

2012-01-20 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Michael Richardson m...@sandelman.ca To: Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.com Cc: IETF Discussion Mailing List ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:13 AM Subject: Re: ITC copped out on UTC again ... Can you tell me which protocols use future timestamps in an moving

merlot.tools.ietf.org getting bounced by Earthlink.net

2012-01-07 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - If you're using the IETF tools to distribute information, you should be aware of this... ... host mx4.mindspring.com [207.69.189.220]: 550 IP 194.146.105.14 is blocked by EarthLink. Go to earthlink.net/block for details. ... 194.146.105.14 is merlot.tools.ietf.org Their support

Re: reading on small devices, was discouraged by .docx

2011-11-28 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com To: Ole Jacobsen o...@cisco.com Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:28 AM Subject: RE: reading on small devices, was discouraged by .docx ... On the other hand, I tried the PDF file out on one of those small-screen devices and

Re: 2119bis

2011-09-03 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Hector sant9...@gmail.com Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 7:52 AM Subject: Re: 2119bis ... For protocol v2.0, X2 is a improved version of X1. SHOULD USE X2 IF POSSIBLE, IF NOT MUST USE X1 Its the same as saying MUST USE X2 first or X1 as

Re: 2119bis

2011-08-31 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Murray S. Kucherawy m...@cloudmark.com To: IETF discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:00 AM Subject: RE: 2119bis -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hector Sent: Wednesday, August

Re: 2119bis

2011-08-29 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Eric Burger eburge...@standardstrack.com To: Narten Thomas nar...@us.ibm.com; Saint-Andre Peter stpe...@stpeter.im Cc: IETF discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 3:08 PM Subject: Re: 2119bis I would assume in the text of the document. This paragraph is

Re: Drafts Submissions cut-off

2011-08-03 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Andrew Sullivan a...@anvilwalrusden.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 6:02 AM Subject: Re: Drafts Submissions cut-off ... I like the submission cut-off because it is a useful forcing function to get drafts in by a reasonable time before the meeting so that

Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic (yet again)

2011-07-25 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Noel Chiappa j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu To: ietf@ietf.org Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic (yet again) ... I think we should only mark things as HISTORIC as a recognition of _what has already happened_

Re: Historic status (was Another look at 6to4 (and other IPv6 transitionissues))

2011-07-22 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Mykyta Yevstifeyev evniki...@gmail.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 3:16 AM Subject: Historic status (was Another look at 6to4 (and other IPv6 transitionissues)) ... And what could/should be done? I think, IESG and the whole community, cooperating with IAB,

Re: [v6ops] Last Call: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic-04.txt

2011-06-09 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Rémi Després remi.desp...@free.fr To: Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [v6ops] Last Call: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic-04.txt ... I'm pretty sure Noel was being scarcastic. There's clear

Re: [v6ops] Last Call: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic-04.txt

2011-06-09 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: TJ trej...@gmail.com To: Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [v6ops] Last Call: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic-04.txt ... The point is that the historic declaration can be a statement about how

Re: [v6ops] Last Call: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic-04.txt

2011-06-09 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Keith Moore mo...@network-heretics.com To: Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [v6ops] Last Call: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic-04.txt ... Consider, then, RFC 1157. It was, quite rightly

Re: [v6ops] Last Call: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic-04.txt

2011-06-08 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: james woodyatt j...@apple.com To: ietf@ietf.org Cc: v6...@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [v6ops] Last Call: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic-04.txt On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: From: Martin Rex m...@sap.com Classification

Re: IETF and APIs

2011-04-04 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Tom Yu t...@mit.edu To: Sam Hartman hartmans-i...@mit.edu Cc: i...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:40 PM Subject: Re: IETF and APIs Personal observation: API is a subclass of interface. Network protocol is a subclass of interface. Interfaces (in the

Re: Request for review of draft-yevstifeyev-genarea-historic-03

2011-03-07 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Eliot Lear l...@cisco.com To: RJ Atkinson rja.li...@gmail.com Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:06 AM Subject: Re: Request for review of draft-yevstifeyev-genarea-historic-03 ... The IAB and IESG control STD1, and have every right and in fact a responsibility to

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-17 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Masataka Ohta mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:14 PM Subject: Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping ... But, when plain text is good enough, we use plain text. Assuming you have ASCII key board, 80-column assumption is

Re: Last Call On draft-yevstifeyev-tn3270-uri-12

2011-01-11 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com To: Mykyta Yevstifeyev evniki...@gmail.com; IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Cc: iesg i...@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:29 AM Subject: Last Call On draft-yevstifeyev-tn3270-uri-12 The provenance of the editor is unknown to me -

Re: SDO vs academic conference, was poster sessions

2011-01-11 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: DOLLY, MARTIN C (ATTSI) md3...@att.com To: Eric Burger ebur...@standardstrack.com; Alessandro Vesely ves...@tana.it Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:34 AM Subject: RE: SDO vs academic conference, was poster sessions At issue though is that these individuals

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2010-12-29 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Martin Rex m...@sap.com To: Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de Cc: ietf@ietf.org; barryle...@computer.org Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... I tried to use xml2rfc once and gave up after 3 hours of

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2010-12-22 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de To: Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org Cc: IETF Discussion Mailing List ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... Clarifying: the reason why I'm researching

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2010-12-21 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de To: Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com Cc: IETF Discussion Mailing List ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:43 AM Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... So, I do understand how generate the ToC

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2010-12-21 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de To: Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com Cc: IETF Discussion Mailing List ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... Here's one incarnation of what I used

Re: Alternate entry document model (was: Re: IETF processes (wasRe:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels))

2010-11-01 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com To: Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 3:24 AM Subject: Re: Alternate entry document model (was: Re: IETF processes (wasRe:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels)) ... So whether we have XStandard, YStandard

Re: No single problem... (was Re: what is the problem bis)

2010-10-29 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Ted Hardie ted.i...@gmail.com To: IETF ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 4:15 PM Subject: No single problem... (was Re: what is the problem bis) ... As is moderately obvious from the stream of commentary on this thread and there companions, there is no *one* problem at

Re: what is the problem bis

2010-10-26 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.com To: Scott O. Bradner s...@harvard.edu Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:24 PM Subject: Re: what is the problem bis ... Most of the documents to reach STANDARD status in recent years have been SNMP documents. But even

Re: Query on SNMP Error Fields

2010-05-15 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: shivendra.ku...@wipro.com To: randy_pres...@mindspring.com; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:02 AM Subject: RE: Query on SNMP Error Fields ... This is an strict expectation as per SNMP RFC specs , that the Set/GEt/GetNext requests set the error status and error-index

Re: Query on SNMP Error Fields

2010-05-14 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: deepak rajaram deepak.raja...@gmail.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 4:18 AM Subject: Query on SNMP Error Fields ... While the SNMP RFC(1157/2571/SNMPv3) mentions the behavior of Error Status and Error Index field as will be set in the response and the value of

Re: Make HTML and PDF more prominent, was: Re: Why the normative

2010-03-19 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im To: m...@sap.com Cc: t...@att.com; iljit...@muada.com; tb...@textuality.com; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:56 PM Subject: Re: Make HTML and PDF more prominent, was: Re: Why the normative ... naïveté, à ... façade ...

Re: XML2RFC and 2010?

2010-01-11 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de To: Glen Zorn g...@net-zen.net Cc: 'Christian Huitema' huit...@microsoft.com; 'The IETF' ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 3:16 AM Subject: Re: XML2RFC and 2010? ... Maybe you only have the XML source under version control, and

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-14 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Richard L. Barnes rbar...@bbn.com To: IETF Member Dave Aronson ietf2d...@davearonson.com Cc: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails Clearly, the best solution to this problem is to

Re: IUCG IDNA2010 SIG

2009-12-07 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: jean-michel bernier de portzamparc jma...@gmail.com To: internet users contributing group i...@ietf.org Cc: wor...@idna2010.org; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:48 PM Subject: IUCG IDNA2010 SIG ...

Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

2009-11-19 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Michael Montemurro montemurro.mich...@gmail.com To: IETF-Discussion list ietf@ietf.org; Cullen Jennings flu...@cisco.com Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 4:38 PM Subject: Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules) ... My company has asked for your patience while they

Re: Regarding RIM's recent IPR disclosures

2009-11-19 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Andrew Allen aal...@rim.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Regarding RIM's recent IPR disclosures ... This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the

Re: Fix the Friday attendance bug: make the technicalplenary the last IETF session, like it was before

2009-11-10 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com To: Stanislav Shalunov shalu...@bittorrent.com; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: Re: Fix the Friday attendance bug: make the technicalplenary the last IETF session, like it was before ... Also keep in mind that, as

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2009-07-15 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Stefan Santesson ste...@aaa-sec.com To: Donald Eastlake d3e...@gmail.com Cc: IETF Discussion Mailing List ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... All I have managed to get across are ways to generate a

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2009-07-15 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de To: Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com Cc: IETF Discussion Mailing List ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:13 AM Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... For editing a document, particularly

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2009-07-15 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de To: Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com Cc: IETF Discussion Mailing List ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:13 AM Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... Point is: nroff and xml2rfc share

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2009-07-15 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de To: Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com Cc: IETF Discussion Mailing List ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:13 AM Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... And of course you can do

Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-07-01 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Stefan Santesson ste...@aaa-sec.com To: Donald Eastlake d3e...@gmail.com; IETF Discussion Mailing List ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:42 PM Subject: Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required How do you translate the .nroff formatted document to a

Re: [OPSAWG] Last Call: draft-ietf-opsawg-operations-and-management (Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management of New Protocols and Protocol Extensions) to BCP

2009-06-04 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Eliot Lear l...@cisco.com To: Sam Hartman hartmans-i...@mit.edu Cc: ops...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] Last Call: draft-ietf-opsawg-operations-and-management (Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management of New

Re: 75th IETF - Hotels

2009-04-15 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Iljitsch van Beijnum iljit...@muada.com To: IETF Discussion Mailing List ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:49 AM Subject: Re: 75th IETF - Hotels ... Do we have an RFC for how to format phone numbers? ITU E.123 would be what you want.

Re: Repair of Public Mail List Archives Complete

2009-03-17 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Tom.Petch sisyp...@dial.pipex.com To: Alexa Morris amor...@amsl.com Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:34 AM Subject: Re: Repair of Public Mail List Archives Complete ... But when I really need an archive, to see what was agreed in 2006, I have to get there day by

Re: [Ltru] draft-ietf-ltru-4645bis-10.txt issue with preferred valuefor YU

2009-03-02 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Tex Texin texte...@xencraft.com To: l...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:05 AM Subject: [Ltru] draft-ietf-ltru-4645bis-10.txt issue with preferred valuefor YU With respect to the proposed update to the Language Subtag Registry

Re: draft-ietf-ltru-4645bis-10.txt issue with preferred value for YU

2009-03-02 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Phillips, Addison addi...@amazon.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:49 AM Subject: RE: draft-ietf-ltru-4645bis-10.txt issue with preferred value for YU Hi Tex, I don't think this is probably appropriate, at least for this list to consider. Tex's posting

Re: It's time for some new steps

2009-02-11 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Wes Hardaker wjh...@hardakers.net To: Scott Brim s...@employees.org Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: Re: It's time for some new steps ... FYI, I unsubscribed twice. The first method (logging in with my assigned password and hitting

Re: I Love this subject header! (was Re: Reject TLS!)

2009-02-09 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - It might be a bit more credible if they offered a plausible alternative technology. Have they said when they'll post their I-D (meeting all RFC 5378 requirements, of course)? Randy From: AJ Jaghori ciscowo...@gmail.com To: mshore msh...@cisco.com; Jeffrey Hankins jhank...@gmail.com;

Re: It's time for some new steps (was: [Welcome to the Ietf-honestmailing list])

2009-02-09 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Dave CROCKER d...@dcrocker.net To: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 4:38 PM Subject: It's time for some new steps (was: [Welcome to the Ietf-honestmailing list]) ... Normally, I advocate entirely ignoring silliness, but the current version of it

Re: Please Review Draft IESG Statement on Activities that are OBE

2009-02-03 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com To: Spencer Dawkins spen...@wonderhamster.org; Harald Alvestrand har...@alvestrand.no; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Please Review Draft IESG Statement on Activities that are OBE ... (1) Anything that

RFC 5378 contributions

2009-01-14 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - I originally asked this question on the WG chairs' list, and was asked to ask again here... The discussion about RFC 5378 (what little I've been able to understand of it, anyway) has focussed on I-Ds and RFCs. However, the definition of contribution in that document includes, among other

Re: RFC 5378 contributions

2009-01-14 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - Thanks for the clarification. Does this mean that if a WG really has no concern that the documents it's working on would be spun off to another organization, then it doesn't need to worry about tracking down contributors? Randy From: Contreras, Jorge jorge.contre...@wilmerhale.com To:

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your review andcomments on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem

2009-01-12 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com To: Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org Cc: trust...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:07 PM Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your review andcomments on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem Doug:

Re: [Trustees] ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your reviewandcomments on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem

2009-01-10 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Bill Manning bmann...@isi.edu To: Lawrence Rosen lro...@rosenlaw.com Cc: 'IETF Discussion' ietf@ietf.org Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [Trustees] ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your reviewandcomments on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378

Re: The internet architecture

2008-12-29 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: John Day jeanj...@comcast.net To: Rémi Després remi.desp...@free.fr; John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com Cc: Bryan Ford baf...@mpi-sws.org; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:24 AM Subject: Re: The internet architecture No it isn't Transport's job. Transport has one

Re: where to send RFC 5378 license forms

2008-12-18 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - (I trimmed the CC list, assuming that the WG chairs and Trustees that care about this stuff are already listening to the IETF discussion.) From: Ray Pelletier rpellet...@isoc.org To: Sam Hartman hartm...@mit.edu Cc: Martin Duerst due...@it.aoyama.ac.jp; Randy Presuhn randy_pres

Re: where to send RFC 5378 license forms

2008-12-18 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Contreras, Jorge jorge.contre...@wilmerhale.com To: Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com; IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 2:37 PM Subject: RE: where to send RFC 5378 license forms ... The boilerplate text is owned by the IETF Trust

Re: IPR Questions Raised by Sam Hartman at the IETF 73 Plenary

2008-12-17 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Dave CROCKER d...@dcrocker.net To: John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com Cc: IETF discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 1:05 PM Subject: Re: IPR Questions Raised by Sam Hartman at the IETF 73 Plenary ... That is: Working groups are part of the IETF and

Re: IPR Questions Raised by Sam Hartman at the IETF 73 Plenary

2008-12-17 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: John C Klensin j...@jck.com To: Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com; IETF discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 2:40 PM Subject: Re: IPR Questions Raised by Sam Hartman at the IETF 73 Plenary ... What gives your WG the ability to function is 5.4

Re: How I deal with (false positive) IP-address blacklists...

2008-12-10 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Dave CROCKER [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Theodore Tso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: Re: How I deal with (false positive) IP-address blacklists... ... Really: If there is a larger issue that the IETF can and should tackle, then

Re: Advice on publishing open standards

2008-11-28 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 10:50 AM Subject: Advice on publishing open standards ... For the past 5 years, I've been processing written sign language as data. I've worked directly with the inventor of the script, which is over 30 years

Re: [BEHAVE] Lack of need for 66nat : Long term impact to applicationdevelopers

2008-11-26 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: james woodyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Behave WG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] Lack of need for 66nat : Long term impact to applicationdevelopers ... The basic problem with NAT66 is that it introduces the

Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?

2008-11-18 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Melinda Shore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Scott W Brim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?

Re: several messages

2008-11-12 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: der Mouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ietf@ietf.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:49 PM Subject: Re: several messages ... Irrelevant. The existence of amateurishly-run DNSBLs does not imply the nonexistence of well-run ones. It _does_ mean that someone to whom

Re: several messages

2008-11-12 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: David Romerstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: Re: several messages On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Randy Presuhn wrote: Agreed, but if those analogies are correct, they also undermine the argument. Neither the email sender

Re: Comments on Draft IRTF ASRG DNSBL - 07

2008-11-11 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Jonathan Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:49 PM Subject: Comments on Draft IRTF ASRG DNSBL - 07 ... 2. The impact of DNSxL's when applied on Inbound Email Servers is significant with very little collateral damage. ... I guess this

Re: a modern-day SNMP use

2008-10-24 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: David W. Hankins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: a modern-day SNMP use ... The short answer to your question, is that there exists today at least one monitoring package, albeit not commercially nor even freely available to the

Re: [dhcwg] LastCall:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6Bulk Leasequery)toProposed Standard

2008-10-24 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: David W. Hankins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [dhcwg] LastCall:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6Bulk Leasequery)toProposed Standard ... Why does it matter if we've already agreed that SNMP's autodetection

Re: [dhcwg] Last Call:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6 Bulk Leasequery) toProposed Standard

2008-10-23 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: David W. Hankins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Last Call:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6 Bulk Leasequery) toProposed Standard ... If you don't know where a single table of a single variable at time

Re: [dhcwg] Last Call:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6Bulk Leasequery) toProposed Standard

2008-10-23 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: David W. Hankins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Last Call:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6Bulk Leasequery) toProposed Standard ... If a DHCP relay knew what leases were present in a DHCP server

Re: [dhcwg] Last Call: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6 Bulk Leasequery) to Proposed Standard

2008-10-22 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: David W. Hankins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DHC WG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Last Call: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6 Bulk Leasequery) to Proposed Standard ... SNMP likes to present a single

Re: About IETF communication skills

2008-07-31 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Keith Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lixia Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ietf@ietf.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:08 PM Subject: Re: About IETF communication skills ... My experience with that reporter is similar. I came to believe that she saw it as her job

Re: SHOULD vs MUST case sensitivity

2008-06-29 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Iljitsch van Beijnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: C. M. Heard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 1:57 PM Subject: Re: SHOULD vs MUST case sensitivity ... Are you saying that according to RFC 2119 SHOULD means something different than

Re: SHOULD vs MUST case sensitivity

2008-06-29 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Dave Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:31 PM Subject: Re: SHOULD vs MUST case sensitivity ... English is not case sensitive. Not so. Case has long been used for emphasis in environments lacking other typographical means,

Re: Operation permissions on Read-Only objects in a table

2008-06-24 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Aditya JAIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:56 AM Subject: Operation permissions on Read-Only objects in a table ... Suppose we have a table in which some objects are read-only, and at least one columnar object which has MAX- ACCESS =

Re: 64bit time_t

2008-06-21 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Chad Giffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IETF ietf@ietf.org Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: 64bit time_t ... What do you think? ... This has been addressed before. See ITU Rec. X.743 http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-X.743/en for one solution.

Re: Appeal against IESG blocking DISCUSS on draft-klensin-rfc2821bis

2008-06-20 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Debbie Garside [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'John C Klensin' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Dave Cridland' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Pete Resnick' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:54 AM Subject: RE: Appeal against IESG blocking DISCUSS on

Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration

2008-05-21 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Melinda Shore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:16 AM Subject: Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration ... The only possible disadvantage I can see is if they're then cataloged as a serial rather than having individual call

Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod)

2008-04-25 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Bernard Aboba [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod) I echo Tom Petch's concern. Given the level of deployment success of IETF management efforts for the last 5-10 years, I'd

Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod)

2008-04-22 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Eric Rescorla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ietf@ietf.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:10 AM Subject: Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod) ... Accordingly, if this WG is to be formed, the entire section (and corresponding milestones) which

Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod)

2008-04-22 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - Our ADs worked very hard to prevent us from talking about technology choices at the CANMOD BOF. Our original proposal for consensus hums included getting a of sense of preferences among the various proposals. We were told we could *not* ask these questions, for fear of upsetting Eric

Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod)

2008-04-22 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Dave Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Eric Rescorla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:03 PM Subject: Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod) ... Are they committed to doing the work? The bulk of the work has been

Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists

2008-04-14 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Ned Freed [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Henrik Levkowetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ned Freed [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:12 PM Subject: Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists ... And there's that word automatically. There is nothing in

Re: IETF Last Call for two IPR WG Dcouments

2008-03-30 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ted Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 6:03 PM Subject: Re: IETF Last Call for two IPR WG Dcouments ... And how do we provide suggestions to the Trustees in a formal manner? ... If it's only a

Re: Possible RFC 3683 PR-action.

2008-03-26 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LB [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ietf@ietf.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 6:29 AM Subject: Re: Possible RFC 3683 PR-action. ... c'mon neihter JFC nor LB has ever offered a draft, JFTR

Re: [Ltru] Possible RFC 3683 PR-action

2008-03-21 Thread Randy Presuhn
, Randy Presuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi - There have been expressions of support, and no objections on this list, to the proposed metric (and one off-list objection by JFC Morfin) for identifying possible sock-puppets of those whose posting privileges have been revoked pursuant to RFC 3683

Re: ISO 3166 mandatory?

2008-02-20 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: lconroy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IETF discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:23 AM Subject: ISO 3166 mandatory? ... why am I REQUIRED to enter the ISO-3166 code for my country of residence. ... Quite right. It should use UN M.49 codes instead. ;-)

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