Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home.

2013-09-11 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - >From: Olafur Gudmundsson >Sent: Sep 11, 2013 7:19 AM >To: Evan Hunt >Cc: "dn...@ietf.org WG" , "ietf@ietf.org TF" >Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home. ... >RRSIG on the SOA or NS or DNSKEY also is fine timestamp except when it is a >replay attack or a fo

Re: Charging remote participants

2013-08-26 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Dave Aronson" > To: "IETF Discussion Mailing List" ; "Janet P Gunn" > > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:54 AM > Subject: Re: Charging remote participants ... > I had to go Google that. To save others the trouble: it seems to > refer to rides at a carnival, and mean "whatever los

re: Last Call: (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-13 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - >From: Yaron Sheffer >Sent: Aug 13, 2013 2:11 PM >To: IETF Discussion Mailing List >Subject: re: Last Call: (Concise Binary Object >Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard ... >- The "diagnostic notation" can be used very effectively for things like >configuration files, e.g. if

Re: IETF Diversity

2013-06-19 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - It seems as though participants in this thread are operating with different understandings of what constitutes "institutional bias." A critical difference is whether *intent* is necessary for bias to exist. As I understand it, institutional bias can exist in the absence of ill intent, and c

Re: Content-free Last Call comments

2013-06-12 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - >From: Ted Lemon >Sent: Jun 12, 2013 12:42 PM >To: Peter Saint-Andre >Cc: "" , Alexey >Melnikov , Pete Resnick >, "ietf@ietf.org Discussion" >Subject: Re: Content-free Last Call comments > >On Jun 12, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> I think these messages are useless, not

Re: [IETF] Re: Issues in wider geographic participation

2013-05-30 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Adrian Farrel" ... > But who pays the operators' bills, and do we need to encourage participation > at > that level as well? Participation as: RFC uptake: - using something based on an RFC? - deploying something based on an RFC? - implementing something

Re: More participation from under-represented regions

2013-05-26 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - Watching this discussion scroll by on my screen, I'm amazed how similar it is to discussions of evangelism in congregations. Two things this religious institution might learn from other religious institutions: (1) "need-based" evangelism. Outreach efforts are more effective if they

Re: Language editing

2013-05-07 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Brian E Carpenter" > To: "Ned Freed" > Cc: "John C Klensin" ; ; > > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: Language editing ... > You are correct if only considering the mail standards. I suspect > that a serious attempt at formal verification would have thrown > up a

Re: last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-28 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Michael Richardson" > To: "ietf" ; "Andrew McGregor" > Cc: "Christian Huitema" ; "SM" > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 5:47 AM > Subject: Re: last call comments for > draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06 ... > I think that non-contiguous ifindexes are a pain in the ass (base

Re: Diversity of IETF Leadership

2013-03-12 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Dan Harkins" > To: "Margaret Wasserman" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:56 AM > Subject: Re: Diversity of IETF Leadership ... > If there's some bias involved in the Nomcom's selection process then > point it out and let's address it. The mere fact that there are is > pre

Re: Vestigial Features (was Re: CRLF (was: Re: A modest proposal))

2013-01-23 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "John C Klensin" > To: "Carsten Bormann" > Cc: "John Levine" ; ; > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:20 PM > Subject: Re: Vestigial Features (was Re: CRLF (was: Re: A modest proposal)) ... > So, yes, some TTY units needed padding > characters or other delays and sometimes it v

Re: Common sense, process, and the nature of change

2012-11-09 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Scott Brim" > To: "Ted Hardie" > Cc: "IETF" > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:32 AM > Subject: Re: Common sense, process, and the nature of change > > Ted: Very nice but I would go further. You believe that everyone in the > IETF has either internalized the mission or will in t

Re: [OPSAWG] Basic ietf process question ...

2012-08-03 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Andy Bierman" > To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" > Cc: ; > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:13 AM > Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] Basic ietf process question ... ... > NMS developers need to spend too many resources on translating > naming and other data-modeling specific details so they can

Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech industry ? The Register

2012-05-01 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Yoav Nir" > To: "Mary Barnes" > Cc: "IETF-Discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:12 AM > Subject: Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech industry ? The Register ... > IOW I don't see the difference between not wanting to spend too > much time at work and wanting to

Re: Proposed IESG Statement on the Conclusion of Experiments

2012-04-21 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Ronald Bonica" > To: "Randy Presuhn" ; ; > ; "Brian E Carpenter" > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:44 AM > Subject: RE: Proposed IESG Statement on the Conclusion of Experiments ... > The proposed IESG statement encourages commun

Re: Proposed IESG Statement on the Conclusion of Experiments

2012-04-20 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Ronald Bonica" > To: ; ; > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 1:56 PM > Subject: RE: Proposed IESG Statement on the Conclusion of Experiments > If this IESG statement is published, none of that changes. It might be helpful to say what *would* change upon publication of this stateme

Re: Proposed IESG Statement on the Conclusion of Experiments

2012-04-20 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Randy Bush" > To: "Adrian Farrel" > Cc: "IETF Disgust" ; "IESG" > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 2:04 AM > Subject: Re: Proposed IESG Statement on the Conclusion of Experiments > > one aspect that may be missed is that there is a body of experimantal > documents which were not reall

Re: ITC copped out on UTC again

2012-01-20 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Michael Richardson" > To: "Phillip Hallam-Baker" > Cc: "IETF Discussion Mailing List" > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:13 AM > Subject: Re: ITC copped out on UTC again ... > Can you tell me which protocols use future timestamps in an moving form > (not stored at rest in a cert

merlot.tools.ietf.org getting bounced by Earthlink.net

2012-01-07 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - If you're using the IETF tools to distribute information, you should be aware of this... ... > host mx4.mindspring.com [207.69.189.220]: 550 IP 194.146.105.14 is > blocked by EarthLink. Go to earthlink.net/block for details. ... 194.146.105.14 is merlot.tools.ietf.org Their support pag

Re: reading on small devices, was discouraged by .docx

2011-11-28 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "John C Klensin" > To: "Ole Jacobsen" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:28 AM > Subject: RE: reading on small devices, was discouraged by .docx ... > On the other hand, I tried the PDF file out on one of those > small-screen devices and discovered that it preserved the page

Re: 2119bis

2011-09-03 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Hector" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 7:52 AM > Subject: Re: 2119bis ... > For protocol v2.0, X2 is a improved version of X1. > > SHOULD USE X2 IF POSSIBLE, IF NOT > MUST USE X1 > > Its the same as saying > > MUST USE X2 first or X1 as a fallback ... No

Re: 2119bis

2011-08-31 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" > To: "IETF discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:00 AM > Subject: RE: 2119bis > > > -Original Message- > > From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > > Hector > > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:57 A

Re: 2119bis

2011-08-29 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Eric Burger" > To: "Narten Thomas" ; "Saint-Andre Peter" > > Cc: "IETF discussion list" > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 3:08 PM > Subject: Re: 2119bis > > I would assume in the text of the document. This paragraph is simply an > enumeration of Burger's Axiom: > For every SHOULD

Re: Drafts Submissions cut-off

2011-08-03 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Andrew Sullivan" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 6:02 AM > Subject: Re: Drafts Submissions cut-off ... > I like the submission cut-off because it is a useful forcing function > to get drafts in by a reasonable time before the meeting so that > people can read them. But I

Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic (yet again)

2011-07-25 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Noel Chiappa" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 3:05 PM > Subject: Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic (yet again) ... > I think we should only mark things as HISTORIC as a recognition of _what has > already happened_ out in the world, not as an attempt to _make somethin

Re: Historic status (was Another look at 6to4 (and other IPv6 transitionissues))

2011-07-22 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Mykyta Yevstifeyev" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 3:16 AM > Subject: Historic status (was Another look at 6to4 (and other IPv6 > transitionissues)) ... > And what could/should be done? I think, IESG and the whole community, > cooperating with IAB, IRSG and ISE, should dete

Re: [v6ops] Last Call:

2011-06-09 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Keith Moore" > To: "Randy Presuhn" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 5:49 PM > Subject: Re: [v6ops] Last Call: ... > > Consider, then, RFC 1157. > > > > It was, quite rightly, declared historic years ago, even though it

Re: [v6ops] Last Call:

2011-06-09 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "TJ" > To: "Randy Presuhn" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 10:36 AM > Subject: Re: [v6ops] Last Call: ... > > The point is that the "historic" declaration can be a statement > > about how the IETF wants things to be,

Re: [v6ops] Last Call:

2011-06-09 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Rémi Després" > To: "Randy Presuhn" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 1:11 AM > Subject: Re: [v6ops] Last Call: ... > > I'm pretty sure Noel was being scarcastic. There's clear precedent in the > > analogou

Re: [v6ops] Last Call:

2011-06-08 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "james woodyatt" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 9:17 AM > Subject: Re: [v6ops] Last Call: > > On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Martin Rex > >> > >> Classification of 6to4 as historic is [in]appropriate use of the IETF > >> process, because

Re: IETF and APIs

2011-04-04 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Tom Yu" > To: "Sam Hartman" > Cc: ; > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:40 PM > Subject: Re: IETF and APIs > > Personal observation: "API" is a subclass of "interface". "Network > protocol" is a subclass of "interface". Interfaces (in the general > case) are valuable things to s

Re: Request for review of draft-yevstifeyev-genarea-historic-03

2011-03-07 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Eliot Lear" > To: "RJ Atkinson" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:06 AM > Subject: Re: Request for review of draft-yevstifeyev-genarea-historic-03 ... > The IAB and IESG control STD1, and have every right and in fact a > responsibility to say what status they think any docume

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-17 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Masataka Ohta" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:14 PM > Subject: Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping ... > But, when plain text is good enough, we use plain text. > > Assuming you have ASCII key board, 80-column assumption is > reasonable. For reasonable devices, I

Re: SDO vs academic conference, was poster sessions

2011-01-11 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "DOLLY, MARTIN C (ATTSI)" > To: "Eric Burger" ; "Alessandro Vesely" > > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:34 AM > Subject: RE: SDO vs academic conference, was poster sessions > > At issue though is that these individuals get paid (sponsored) by > someone, either directly or

Re: Last Call On draft-yevstifeyev-tn3270-uri-12

2011-01-11 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "t.petch" > To: "Mykyta Yevstifeyev" ; "IETF Discussion" > > Cc: "iesg" > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:29 AM > Subject: Last Call On draft-yevstifeyev-tn3270-uri-12 > The provenance of the editor is unknown to > me - and of course, once an RFC has been through the IETF p

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2010-12-29 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Martin Rex" > To: "Julian Reschke" > Cc: ; > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 6:25 PM > Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... > I tried to use xml2rfc once and gave up after 3 hours of getting NOWHERE, > not even _running_ xml2rfc. FWIW, I've never

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2010-12-22 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Julian Reschke" > To: "Barry Leiba" > Cc: "IETF Discussion Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 11:26 AM > Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... > Clarifying: the reason why I'm researching is that apparently some > people think it woul

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2010-12-21 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Julian Reschke" > To: "Randy Presuhn" > Cc: "IETF Discussion Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:17 PM > Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... > > Here's one incarnation of what I

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2010-12-21 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Julian Reschke" > To: "Randy Presuhn" > Cc: "IETF Discussion Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:43 AM > Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... > So, I do understand how generate the T

Re: Alternate entry document model (was: Re: IETF processes (wasRe:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels))

2010-11-01 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "t.petch" > To: "Andrew Sullivan" ; > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 3:24 AM > Subject: Re: Alternate entry document model (was: Re: IETF processes > (wasRe:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels)) ... > So whether we have XStandard, YStandard or ZStandard and how we move > between the

Re: No single problem... (was Re: what is the problem bis)

2010-10-29 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Ted Hardie" > To: "IETF" > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 4:15 PM > Subject: No single problem... (was Re: what is the problem bis) ... > As is moderately obvious from the stream of commentary on this > thread and there companions, there is no *one* problem at > the root of all thi

Re: what is the problem bis

2010-10-26 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Phillip Hallam-Baker" > To: "Scott O. Bradner" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: what is the problem bis ... > Most of the documents to reach STANDARD status in recent years have been > SNMP documents. But even though SNMP has its uses, deployment and

Re: Query on SNMP Error Fields

2010-05-15 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: > To: ; > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:02 AM > Subject: RE: Query on SNMP Error Fields ... > This is an strict expectation as per SNMP RFC specs , > that the Set/GEt/GetNext requests set the error status > and error-index field to 0. Citation, please? While it is very reasonable

Re: Query on SNMP Error Fields

2010-05-14 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "deepak rajaram" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 4:18 AM > Subject: Query on SNMP Error Fields ... > While the SNMP RFC(1157/2571/SNMPv3) mentions the behavior of "Error Status" > and "Error Index" field as "will be set in the response" and the value of > these fields in all set/

Re: Make HTML and PDF more prominent, was: Re: Why the normative

2010-03-19 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Peter Saint-Andre" > To: > Cc: ; ; ; > > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:56 PM > Subject: Re: Make HTML and PDF more prominent, was: Re: Why the normative ... > naïveté, à ... > façade ... > übermensch ... > résumé ... > soirée ... > Café ... Modern English spellings, ple

Re: XML2RFC and 2010?

2010-01-11 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Julian Reschke" > To: "Glen Zorn" > Cc: "'Christian Huitema'" ; "'The IETF'" > > Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 3:16 AM > Subject: Re: XML2RFC and 2010? ... > Maybe you only have the XML source under version control, and you want > to check the actual text you submitted? (withou

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-14 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Richard L. Barnes" > To: "IETF Member Dave Aronson" > Cc: "IETF Discussion" > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:46 AM > Subject: Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails > > Clearly, the best solution to this problem is to enforce Latin as the > official language o

Re: IUCG IDNA2010 SIG

2009-12-07 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "jean-michel bernier de portzamparc" > To: "internet users contributing group" > Cc: ; > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:48 PM > Subject: IUCG IDNA2010 SIG ... > le:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5Cjfcm%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip= ... It's interesting what leaks out of s

Re: Regarding RIM's recent IPR disclosures

2009-11-19 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Andrew Allen" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:11 PM > Subject: Regarding RIM's recent IPR disclosures ... > This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential > information, privileged material (including material protected by the > solicitor-client

Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

2009-11-19 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Michael Montemurro" > To: "IETF-Discussion list" ; "Cullen Jennings" > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 4:38 PM > Subject: Re: RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules) ... > My company > has asked for your patience while they take the time to evaluate the > concerns and d

Re: Fix the Friday attendance bug: make the technicalplenary the last IETF session, like it was before

2009-11-10 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "John C Klensin" > To: "Stanislav Shalunov" ; > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:43 AM > Subject: Re: Fix the Friday attendance bug: make the technicalplenary the > last IETF session, like it was before ... > Also keep in mind that, as the IETF becomes more international, > Frida

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2009-07-15 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Julian Reschke" > To: "Randy Presuhn" > Cc: "IETF Discussion Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:13 AM > Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... > And of course you can do that with

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2009-07-15 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Julian Reschke" > To: "Randy Presuhn" > Cc: "IETF Discussion Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:13 AM > Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... > Point is: nroff and xml2rfc share the adva

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2009-07-15 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Julian Reschke" > To: "Randy Presuhn" > Cc: "IETF Discussion Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:13 AM > Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... > > For editing a document, particularly a

Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff

2009-07-15 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Stefan Santesson" > To: "Donald Eastlake" > Cc: "IETF Discussion Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:03 PM > Subject: Re: Automatically updated Table of Contents with Nroff ... > All I have managed to get across are ways to generate a TOC in the end of > the document, t

Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-07-01 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Stefan Santesson" > To: "Donald Eastlake" ; "IETF Discussion Mailing List" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:42 PM > Subject: Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required > > How do you translate the .nroff formatted document to a readable text > document? One of the a

Re: [OPSAWG] Last Call: draft-ietf-opsawg-operations-and-management (Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management of New Protocols and Protocol Extensions) to BCP

2009-06-04 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Eliot Lear" > To: "Sam Hartman" > Cc: ; > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:15 PM > Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] Last Call: draft-ietf-opsawg-operations-and-management > (Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management of New Protocols and Protocol Extensions) to BCP ... > Also, I

Re: 75th IETF - Hotels

2009-04-15 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Iljitsch van Beijnum" > To: "IETF Discussion Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:49 AM > Subject: Re: 75th IETF - Hotels ... > Do we have an RFC for how to format phone numbers? ITU E.123 would be what you want. http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-E.123-200102-I/e Clause 2

Re: Repair of Public Mail List Archives Complete

2009-03-17 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Tom.Petch" > To: "Alexa Morris" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:34 AM > Subject: Re: Repair of Public Mail List Archives Complete ... > But when I really need an archive, to see what was > agreed in 2006, I have to get there day by day by painstaking day by tedious > day

Re: draft-ietf-ltru-4645bis-10.txt issue with preferred value for YU

2009-03-02 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Phillips, Addison" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:49 AM > Subject: RE: draft-ietf-ltru-4645bis-10.txt issue with preferred value for YU > > Hi Tex, > > I don't think this is probably appropriate, at least for this list to > consider. Tex's posting came after the document

Re: [Ltru] draft-ietf-ltru-4645bis-10.txt issue with preferred valuefor YU

2009-03-02 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Tex Texin" > To: ; > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:05 AM > Subject: [Ltru] draft-ietf-ltru-4645bis-10.txt issue with preferred valuefor > YU > > With respect to the proposed update to the Language Subtag Registry > draft-ietf-ltru-4645bis-10: > > I would like to lodge an objecti

Re: It's time for some new steps

2009-02-11 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Wes Hardaker" > To: "Scott Brim" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:22 PM > Subject: Re: It's time for some new steps ... > FYI, I unsubscribed twice. The first method (logging in with my > assigned password and hitting unsubscribe) failed even though it told me > it succ

Re: It's time for some new steps (was: [Welcome to the "Ietf-honest"mailing list])

2009-02-09 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Dave CROCKER" > To: "IETF Discussion" > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 4:38 PM > Subject: It's time for some new steps (was: [Welcome to the > "Ietf-honest"mailing list]) ... > Normally, I advocate entirely ignoring silliness, but the current version of > it > is more than sill

Re: I Love this subject header! (was Re: Reject TLS!)

2009-02-09 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - It might be a bit more credible if they offered a plausible alternative technology. Have they said when they'll post their I-D (meeting all RFC 5378 requirements, of course)? Randy > From: "AJ Jaghori" > To: "mshore" ; "Jeffrey Hankins" ; > ; > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:41 PM >

Re: Please Review Draft IESG Statement on Activities that are OBE

2009-02-03 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "John C Klensin" > To: "Spencer Dawkins" ; "Harald Alvestrand" > ; > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:50 AM > Subject: Re: Please Review Draft IESG Statement on Activities that are OBE ... > (1) Anything that clearly shifts this document toward "guidance > to the community about

Re: RFC 5378 "contributions"

2009-01-14 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - Thanks for the clarification. Does this mean that if a WG really has no concern that the documents it's working on would be spun off to another organization, then it doesn't need to worry about tracking down "contributors"? Randy > From: "Contreras, Jorge" > To: ; > Sent: Wednesday, Janu

RFC 5378 "contributions"

2009-01-14 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - I originally asked this question on the WG chairs' list, and was asked to ask again here... The discussion about RFC 5378 (what little I've been able to understand of it, anyway) has focussed on I-Ds and RFCs. However, the definition of "contribution" in that document includes, among other t

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your review andcomments on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem

2009-01-12 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Russ Housley" > To: "Doug Ewell" > Cc: ; > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:07 PM > Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your review andcomments > on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem > > Doug: > > I hope this response answers your pragmatic questions

Re: [Trustees] ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your reviewandcomments on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem

2009-01-10 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Bill Manning" > To: "Lawrence Rosen" > Cc: "'IETF Discussion'" > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:42 PM > Subject: Re: [Trustees] ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your > reviewandcomments on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem ... > er... thats -NOT- what I was

Re: The internet architecture

2008-12-29 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "John Day" > To: "Rémi Després" ; "John C Klensin" > > Cc: "Bryan Ford" ; > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:24 AM > Subject: Re: The internet architecture > > No it isn't Transport's job. Transport has one > and only one purpose: end-to-end reliability and > flow control. > > "

Re: where to send RFC 5378 license forms

2008-12-18 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Contreras, Jorge" > To: "Randy Presuhn" ; "IETF Discussion" > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 2:37 PM > Subject: RE: where to send RFC 5378 license forms ... > The boilerplate text is owned by the IETF Trust. No author permiss

Re: where to send RFC 5378 license forms

2008-12-18 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - (I trimmed the CC list, assuming that the WG chairs and Trustees that care about this stuff are already listening to the IETF discussion.) > From: "Ray Pelletier" > To: "Sam Hartman" > Cc: "Martin Duerst" ; "Randy Presuhn" > ; &q

Re: IPR Questions Raised by Sam Hartman at the IETF 73 Plenary

2008-12-17 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "John C Klensin" > To: "Randy Presuhn" ; "IETF discussion list" > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 2:40 PM > Subject: Re: IPR Questions Raised by Sam Hartman at the IETF 73 Plenary ... > What gives your WG the ability to func

Re: IPR Questions Raised by Sam Hartman at the IETF 73 Plenary

2008-12-17 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Dave CROCKER" > To: "John C Klensin" > Cc: "IETF discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 1:05 PM > Subject: Re: IPR Questions Raised by Sam Hartman at the IETF 73 Plenary ... > That is: Working groups are part of the IETF and 'authors' of working group > documents

Re: How I deal with (false positive) IP-address blacklists...

2008-12-10 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Dave CROCKER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Theodore Tso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: How I deal with (false positive) IP-address blacklists... ... > Really: If there is a larger issue that the IETF can and should tackle, then

Re: Advice on publishing open standards

2008-11-28 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 10:50 AM > Subject: Advice on publishing open standards ... > For the past 5 years, I've been processing written sign language as data. > I've worked directly with the inventor of the script, which is over 30 > years old. >

Re: [BEHAVE] Lack of need for 66nat : Long term impact to applicationdevelopers

2008-11-26 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "james woodyatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Behave WG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] Lack of need for 66nat : Long term impact to > applicationdevelopers ... > The basic problem with NAT66 is that it introduces the possi

Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?

2008-11-18 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Melinda Shore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Randy Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Scott W Brim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:22 AM > Subject: Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified > for2.3ofdraft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-crit

Re: several messages

2008-11-12 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "David Romerstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:18 AM > Subject: Re: several messages > > On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Randy Presuhn wrote: > > > Agreed, but if those analogies are correct, they also undermi

Re: several messages

2008-11-12 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "der Mouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:49 PM > Subject: Re: several messages ... > Irrelevant. The existence of amateurishly-run DNSBLs does not imply > the nonexistence of well-run ones. It _does_ mean that someone to whom >

Re: Comments on Draft IRTF ASRG DNSBL - 07

2008-11-11 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Jonathan Curtis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:49 PM > Subject: Comments on Draft IRTF ASRG DNSBL - 07 ... > 2. The impact of DNSxL's when applied on Inbound Email Servers > is significant with very little collateral damage. ... I guess this depend

Re: [dhcwg] LastCall:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6Bulk Leasequery)toProposed Standard

2008-10-24 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "David W. Hankins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:46 AM > Subject: Re: [dhcwg] > LastCall:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6Bulk > Leasequery)toProposed Standard ... > Why does it matter if we've already agreed that SNMP's autodetection ...

Re: a modern-day SNMP use

2008-10-24 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "David W. Hankins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:26 AM > Subject: a modern-day SNMP use ... > The short answer to your question, is that there exists today at > least one monitoring package, albeit not commercially nor even freely > available to the pub

Re: [dhcwg] Last Call:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6Bulk Leasequery) toProposed Standard

2008-10-23 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "David W. Hankins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:36 PM > Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Last > Call:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6Bulk Leasequery) toProposed > Standard ... > If a DHCP relay knew what leases were present in a DHCP server befor

Re: [dhcwg] Last Call:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6 Bulk Leasequery) toProposed Standard

2008-10-23 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "David W. Hankins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:47 AM > Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Last Call:draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6 > Bulk Leasequery) toProposed Standard ... > If you don't know where "a single table of a single variable at time" >

Re: [dhcwg] Last Call: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6 Bulk Leasequery) to Proposed Standard

2008-10-22 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "David W. Hankins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "DHC WG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:17 AM > Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Last Call: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery(DHCPv6 > Bulk Leasequery) to Proposed Standard ... > SNMP likes to present a single t

Re: About IETF communication skills

2008-07-31 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Keith Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Lixia Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:08 PM > Subject: Re: About IETF communication skills ... > My experience with that reporter is similar. I came to believe that she > saw it as her

Re: SHOULD vs MUST case sensitivity

2008-06-29 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Dave Crocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "IETF Discussion" > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: SHOULD vs MUST case sensitivity ... > English is not case sensitive. Not so. Case has long been used for emphasis in environments lacking other typographical means, such

Re: SHOULD vs MUST case sensitivity

2008-06-29 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Iljitsch van Beijnum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "C. M. Heard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "IETF Discussion" > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 1:57 PM > Subject: Re: SHOULD vs MUST case sensitivity ... > Are you saying that according to RFC 2119 "SHOULD" means something > different tha

Re: Operation permissions on Read-Only objects in a table

2008-06-24 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Aditya JAIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:56 AM > Subject: Operation permissions on Read-Only objects in a table ... > Suppose we have a table in which some objects are read-only, and at least > one columnar object which has MAX- ACCESS = read-create. D

Re: 64bit time_t

2008-06-21 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Chad Giffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "IETF" > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:38 AM > Subject: 64bit time_t ... > What do you think? ... This has been addressed before. See ITU Rec. X.743 http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-X.743/en for one solution. Randy

Re: Appeal against IESG blocking DISCUSS on draft-klensin-rfc2821bis

2008-06-20 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Debbie Garside" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'John C Klensin'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Dave Cridland'" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > Cc: "'Pete Resnick'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:54 AM > Subject: RE: Appeal against IESG blocking DISCUSS on

Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration

2008-05-21 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Melinda Shore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "IETF Discussion" > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:16 AM > Subject: Re: ISSN for RFC Series under Consideration ... > The only possible disadvantage I can see is if they're then > cataloged as a serial rather than having individual call num

Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod)

2008-04-25 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Bernard Aboba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 6:40 PM > Subject: Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod) > > I echo Tom Petch's concern. > > Given the level of deployment success of IETF management efforts > for the last 5-10 years, I'd sug

Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod)

2008-04-22 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Dave Crocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Eric Rescorla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:03 PM > Subject: Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod) ... > Are they committed to doing the work? The bulk of the work has bee

Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod)

2008-04-22 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - Our ADs worked very hard to prevent us from talking about technology choices at the CANMOD BOF. Our original proposal for consensus hums included getting a of sense of preferences among the various proposals. We were told we could *not* ask these questions, for fear of upsetting Eric Rescor

Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod)

2008-04-22 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Eric Rescorla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: WG Review: NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod) ... > Accordingly, if this WG is to be formed, the entire section (and > corresponding milestones) which specifies

Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists

2008-04-14 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Ned Freed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Henrik Levkowetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Ned Freed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists ... > And there's that word "automatically". There is nothing

Re: IETF Last Call for two IPR WG Dcouments

2008-03-30 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Peter Saint-Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Ted Hardie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 6:03 PM > Subject: Re: IETF Last Call for two IPR WG Dcouments ... > And how do we provide suggestions to the Trustees in a formal manner? ... If it's only a suggestio

Re: Possible RFC 3683 PR-action.

2008-03-26 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Harald Tveit Alvestrand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "LB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 6:29 AM > Subject: Re: Possible RFC 3683 PR-action. ... > c'mon neihter JFC nor LB has ever offered a draft, JFTR https://datatracker.ietf.or

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