[efloraofindia:42605] Re: ID request-270710-PKA2

2010-07-28 Thread Pardeshi S.
the fruits are not of S. foetida and S. villosa (in this case it is smaller in size)for sure. Fruit looks like that of Sterculia guttata. Regards Satish Pardeshi On Jul 28, 9:06 pm, Rashida Atthar wrote: > Could this possibly be Sterculia  balanghas L. ? > > regards, > Rashida. > > > > On Wed, J

[efloraofindia:42604] Re: ID request-280710-PKA1

2010-07-28 Thread Pardeshi S.
it is Alysicarpus longifolia. erect plant Regards Satish Pardeshi On Jul 28, 11:59 pm, tanay bose wrote: > Is it Alysicarpus vaginalis? > Tanay > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Prashant awale wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Came across this erect herb at Warora (near Nagpur). Looks like some >

Re: [efloraofindia:42603] Stereospermum personatum (Hassk.) Chatterjee

2010-07-28 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir sorry again for the delayed response. In Dr Almeida's 'Generic names of the plants of Maharahtra' the following explanation is given for the species under discussion: "Stereospermum-cham. In Linnaea 7: 720, 1832;Benth, & HK.f., Gen.Pl.2:1047, 1876.(Bignonaceae, 1832). Stereos=hard, Spermum=se

Re: [efloraofindia:42602] Re: Request for ID Areca sp - 040710RA1

2010-07-28 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir spoke with Dr. Almeida today. Dr. Almeida informed that the naming is as per ' World Monograph of palms', and the earliest published name is valid. However, he also said that if Kew and Grin has accepted current name as Adonidia merrilli than it may be correct. He is in the process of carryi

Re: [efloraofindia:42601] Cerastium tomentosum from Kashmir

2010-07-28 Thread tanay bose
Thanks for the Cerastium collection it really helps to differentiate the species tanay On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Cerastium tomentosum from Kashmir, the garden ornamental with white > tomentose leaves. Photographed from newly developed Hazuribagh Garden in > Srinag

Re: [efloraofindia:42600] Cerastium glomeratum from Kashmir

2010-07-28 Thread tanay bose
Good close up to note the differences. Tanay On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Cerastium glomeratum from Kashmir, photographed from Gulmarg on June 19, > 2010. > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-11

Re: [efloraofindia:42599] Cersatium fontanum var. triviale from Kashmir

2010-07-28 Thread tanay bose
Lovely catch catch nice to see the difference between two species. Kindly read it as *Cerastium fontanum* Baumg. var *triviale* (Link) Jalas (nullify the typo error in the passage) Tanay On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Cersatium fontanum var. triviale from Kashmir, dif

Re: [efloraofindia:42598] Cerastium cerastoides from Kashmir

2010-07-28 Thread tanay bose
*Cerastium cerastoides* is an unusual member of the genus because it normally has only three styles and a straight, six-toothed capsule, rather than a curved capsule as in most of the other species. Adopted from Flora of North America. http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=2420

Re: [efloraofindia:42597] Cedrus deodara from Kashmir

2010-07-28 Thread tanay bose
Lovely catch of the plant, you also got hold of the cones!! Tanay On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Cedrus deodara from Kashmir, growing around Srinagar and lower altitudes in > the valley, source of important timber wood Deodar. Photographed from > Shankeracharya hill on

Re: [efloraofindia:42596] Castanea sativa from Kashmir

2010-07-28 Thread tanay bose
A new plant to me thanks for sharing Tanay On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Castanea sativa from Kashmir, planted in gardens, orchards and roadsides. > The kernels are eaten after roasting and locally known as singhara. Rarely > reaches outside valley, because of poor ke

[efloraofindia:42594] Re: please id this medicinal plant

2010-07-28 Thread arjunan
A big thank you to everyone for the assistance On Jul 28, 11:31 am, Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote: > Pics are too small, but I thought this could be Kalanchoe pinnata, > commonly used name earlier was Bryophyllum calycinum. Thanks for the > update  Mr. Mani, I wasnt aware that it had been transfered to a

Re: [efloraofindia:42593] Re: Tamarindus indica L.

2010-07-28 Thread Sid
Dear Friends, This is an interesting discussion about Tamarind. The RAPD paper doesn't exactly answer about the origin of Tamarind. As a whole the sampling within India (Asia) and Madagascar is sparse. Even the title ends with a question mark. Moreover the authors say they could not find referenc

[efloraofindia:42592] link for indian tree pix group on google

2010-07-28 Thread satyendra tiwari
here is a link indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, -- Satyendra K.Tiwari. Wildlife Photographer, Naturalist, Tour Leader H.NO 139, P.O.Tala, Distt Umariya. M.P. India 484-661 To know more about Bandhavgarh visit following links. http://www.flickr.com/photos/satyendraphotography http://tigerdiaries.b

Re: [efloraofindia:42585] Campsis from Delhi grandiflora or radicans

2010-07-28 Thread Gurcharan Singh
C. grandiflora for sure, after having seen and posted C. radicans from Kashmir. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.i

Re: [efloraofindia:42584] Re: Tamarindus indica L.

2010-07-28 Thread Gurcharan Singh
I does'nt, whether you like it or not. I hope you know why and what people write in abstract. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://

Re: [efloraofindia:42583] Fungi for ID

2010-07-28 Thread tanay bose
You are most welcome Dr.Kumar Tanay On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Pankaj Kumar wrote: > Then it shouldnt be called repulsive..:))) just kidding > Thanks for information Tanay and Oudhia sir. > Pankaj > -- Tanay Bose +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) 9830439691(Mobile)

Re: [efloraofindia:42582] Fungi for ID

2010-07-28 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Then it shouldnt be called repulsive..:))) just kidding Thanks for information Tanay and Oudhia sir. Pankaj

Re: [efloraofindia:42581] Fungi for ID

2010-07-28 Thread tanay bose
Thanks Pankaj Ji for further information in the list of links provided by me the first one give you the same information which you adopted from Wikipedia!! Tanay On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Pankaj Oudhia wrote: > "cloying stink extremely repulsive" > > Thanks Tanay for the interesting infor

Re: [efloraofindia:42580] Grewia microcos from CBD hills

2010-07-28 Thread Dinesh Valke
*Microcos paniculata* (syn. *Fallopia nervosa, Grewia microcos, Grewia nervosa, Microcos nervosa*) ... commonly known as: microcos, panicled Indian linden • Assamese: pisoli, thengprenkeorong • Bengali: আসার asar • Garo: borsubret, bolchibins • Hindi: शिरल shiral • Kannada: ಅಭ್ರಂಗ abhranga • Khasi:

Re: [efloraofindia:42579] Fungi for ID

2010-07-28 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
"cloying stink extremely repulsive" Thanks Tanay for the interesting information. Wikipedia mentions another interesting information about this smell. "the smell of this fungus when fresh can trigger spontaneous orgasmsin human females" This is new informatio

Re: [efloraofindia:42578] ID request-280710-PKA1

2010-07-28 Thread tanay bose
Is it Alysicarpus vaginalis? Tanay On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Prashant awale wrote: > Dear Friends, > Came across this erect herb at Warora (near Nagpur). Looks like some > Alysicarpus sp.?? > > Date/Time: 26-10-2008 / 12:15PM > Location: Warora near Nagpur. > Habitat: Wild > Plant habit:

[efloraofindia:42577] Re: Barbarea orthoceras from Kashmir

2010-07-28 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar
I am sorry, just while rechecking my posts I found that Dr. Gurcharan had welcomed me back to the group but I somehow missed to respond. Accept my apologies for the mistake. Thanks a lot for the greetings. Regards Pankaj

Re: [efloraofindia:42576] Fungi for ID

2010-07-28 Thread tanay bose
It’s really a pleasure to see Dinesh Ji and other members taking keen interest in mushrooms, not only by providing the group with lovely photographs but also updating their knowledge to giving out proper identifications. *Phallus indusiatus* is commonly known as the “Bridal Veil Stinkhorn”. The

Re: [efloraofindia:42573] Re: Tamarindus indica L.

2010-07-28 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Thanks a lot for reading the aritcle. Page no. 854, paragraph 3, line no. 18: Tamarindus is said to have some resemblance to Heterostemon Desf. from the upper Amazon region of South America. Page no. 857, paragrah 2, line no. 1: The high intra population variability from the populations of th

Re: [efloraofindia:42572] Re: Request for ID Areca sp - 040710RA1

2010-07-28 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes GRIN also accepts that: Adonidia merrillii (Becc.) Becc to be the accepted name. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.

[efloraofindia:42571] Re: Request for ID Areca sp - 040710RA1

2010-07-28 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar
I just found out from Kew that the accepted name is Adonidia merrillii (Becc.) Becc., Philipp. J. Sci. 14: 329 (1919). syn: Veitchia merrillii (Becc.) H.E.Moore, Gentes Herb. 8: 501 (1957)..Note the double ' i ' . Regards Dr. Pankaj Kumar, WII.

Re: [efloraofindia:42570] Re: Tamarindus indica L.

2010-07-28 Thread Gurcharan Singh
I have gone through the paper but find nothing against what has been quoted by us: African Origin, early introduction into India and name Tamarindus derived from "Tamar Hindi". The authors mention about two opposite views: African Origin (Grollier, 1998) and Indian Origin (Poupon & Chouvin, 1983;

[efloraofindia:42569] Re: Semecarpus anacardium L. [Anacardiaceae]

2010-07-28 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar
Thanks for the info Mr/Ms. Josnasorry I dont know your gender. I never knew that there were synonyms of drug names too :)). I wanted to know where you found that information from, just in case its from your own expertise, then I would request you to please get me some information on the ayu

Re: [efloraofindia:42567] Semecarpus anacardium L. [Anacardiaceae]

2010-07-28 Thread josna john
Dear sir, Semecarpus anacardium is one of the main drugs in the ayurvedic medicinal system! The sanskrit name for the drug is BHALLATHAKA, and also carries the synonymn ARUSHKARA. It is an anticancerous drug and can also work against good in the case of leukoderma. It also pocess both vachikarana

Re: [efloraofindia:42566] Fungi for ID

2010-07-28 Thread Dinesh Valke
... commonly known as long net stinkhorn, crinoline stinkhorn, veiled lady, veiled mushroom ... *Phallus indusiatus* (for a brief period was: *Dictyophora indusiata* ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus_indusiatus Earlier ID help by Tanay Regards. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:12 PM, satyendra

Re: [efloraofindia:42565] Re: Request for ID Areca sp - 040710RA1

2010-07-28 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Thanks Rashida ji With your new set of books, we will surely get correct identity as well nomenclature of Plants from the region. Keep the good work on. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New

[efloraofindia:42564] Re: Request for ID Areca sp - 040710RA1

2010-07-28 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar
Thanks a lot Satish sir for the id and the information and my apologies to all for the mistaken identity. Regards Pankaj

Re: [efloraofindia:42562] ID request-270710-PKA2

2010-07-28 Thread Rashida Atthar
Could this possibly be Sterculia balanghas L. ? regards, Rashida. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:25 AM, tanay bose wrote: > I think this plant is *Sterculia foetida* in *S villosa* the fruit is much > narrower with much more acute apex. > > Tanay > > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:54 AM, ajinkya gad

Re: [efloraofindia:42561] Request for ID Areca sp - 040710RA1

2010-07-28 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks Yazdy ji. It was already correctly identified by Pardeshi ji, but it was the synonym. What I have mentioned is the current name as mentioned in the flora. regards, Rashida. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Yazdy Palia wrote: > Dear Rashida Ji, > Many thanks for the effort and for identif

Re: [efloraofindia:42560] Plants for ID

2010-07-28 Thread Smita Raskar
Thanks for id On 7/26/10, Pankaj Kumar wrote: > > Dear Ms. Smita Raskar, > Thanks for sharing the pictures, and yes Dr. Satish's id is reliable as > always. > Nervilia crociformis like other Nervilia's flower before the emergence > of leaves, hence leaves cant be seen in the picture with flowers

Re: [efloraofindia:42559] Request for ID Areca sp - 040710RA1

2010-07-28 Thread Yazdy Palia
Dear Rashida Ji, Many thanks for the effort and for identifying it correctly. Regards Yazdy. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Rashida Atthar wrote: > I have only yesterday got the set of the 5th volume of Dr. Almeida's flora > of Maharashtra which has covered palms. Would like to share that this

Re: [efloraofindia:42558] Re: Dioscorea belophylla?? 250710-PKA1

2010-07-28 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Just for info. the air bulbil is often called the AIR POTATO!! may be because it looks like or tastes like potato. And it can be in more than one species...Dioscorea are often characterised by their leaves. Pankaj

Re: [efloraofindia:42557] Request for ID Areca sp - 040710RA1

2010-07-28 Thread Rashida Atthar
I have only yesterday got the set of the 5th volume of Dr. Almeida's flora of Maharashtra which has covered palms. Would like to share that this palm is now known as Veitchia merrilli (Becc.)H. E. Moore. Origin of Philippine islands, it is cultivated in Hiranandani gardens,Powai, Mumbai also. r

Re: [efloraofindia:42556] Re: Dioscorea belophylla?? 250710-PKA1

2010-07-28 Thread tanay bose
Welcome Dinesh ji, I am happy that I could provide you with information that served your purpose. Tanay On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Dinesh Valke wrote: > Dear Tanay, many thanks for quick answers. > The intent of getting answers to these two queries may not resolve to the > true ID, but am l

Re: [efloraofindia:42555] Re: Tamarindus indica L.

2010-07-28 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thank you Dr. Stephen for having asked this question which led to correct information and very useful feedbacks from Dr. Gurcharan ji, Dr. Vijayasankar ji and Dr. Oudhia ji. The monograph is excellent and what an important tree this is !! regards, Rashida. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Pankaj

[efloraofindia:42554] Re: Fwd: Jasmine for ID : AK-1

2010-07-28 Thread Aarti S. Khale
Tabish ji, I am familiar with 'Kunda' as have that variety growing in our home garden at Nasik. No this was not Kunda for sure...something else. Aarti On Jul 28, 11:08 am, Tabish wrote: > This is definitely not Jasminum multiflorum. J. multiflorum has a > characteristic closed-packed flower > cl

Re: [itpmods:1168] Re: [efloraofindia:42553] Re: DV - 28SEP09 - 0330 :: Solanum species at Saphale Ghat

2010-07-28 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Dear Mr. Tanay, If you are so much involved then I would request you to correct your mistakes in the post rather than making excuses. I would really be happy to see you correcting your own mistakes in the particular mail on Solanum. Everything is available on the net except one article which I hav

Re: [efloraofindia:42552] Re: Dioscorea belophylla?? 250710-PKA1

2010-07-28 Thread Dinesh Valke
Dear Tanay, many thanks for quick answers. The intent of getting answers to these two queries may not resolve to the true ID, but am looking out for any better markers which will differentiate the two species in an easier manner (in any circumstances). An interesting article at http://www2.biover

Re: [efloraofindia:42551] Berberis lycium from Kashmir

2010-07-28 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Nalini ji Here are some: Simla: Kasmal Jaunsar: Chatroi Garhwal: Kirmora -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~sing

Re: [efloraofindia:42550] Re: Campsis radicans 'Flava' at FOI

2010-07-28 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Thanks Tabish ji You are right. Happy that identity of Aarti's plant is resolved. Let us now devote some attention to Delhi Campsis now posted today by me, posted by Balkar ji (as C. grandiflora and identified by us as C. radicans) and also on FOI as C. radicans: http://groups.google.co.in/gro

Re: [efloraofindia:42549] Re: Dioscorea belophylla?? 250710-PKA1

2010-07-28 Thread tanay bose
Dear Dinesh Ji, I am just trying to answer your queries with my limited knowledge. *1. **Are the aerial bulbils only to be seen in D. bulbifera?* *Ans.* No, as far as know *Dioscorea *bulbifera is not the only plant to have bulbils couple of other do have too. One common example coming to

Re: [efloraofindia:42548] Berberis lycium from Kashmir

2010-07-28 Thread nabha meghani
Remainds me of Berberis vulgaris (Gewöhnliche Berberitze) which is grown along the fences. The thorns keep the pedestrians away from the garden. But the children pluck the berries which taste sweetsour when ripe. The berries are rich on Vitamin C and berreis or jam is sold at x'mas basars. Thank

Re: [efloraofindia:42547] Re: Dioscorea belophylla?? 250710-PKA1

2010-07-28 Thread Dinesh Valke
Dear Prashant, ... certainly Milind ji's ID must be correct. In your photos, aerial bulbil is seen, though not in focus ... pointing to *D. bulbifera*. My query: 1) ... are the aerial bulbils only to be seen in *D. bulbifera* ? 2) ... the staminate flower, appears solitary ... would that happen in

[efloraofindia:42546] Re: Campsis radicans 'Flava' at FOI

2010-07-28 Thread Tabish
Dear Gurcharan ji, Thanks for the links. As of now, Tecomaria is considered a synonym of Tecoma, as per GRIN: http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/genus.pl?16721 So, it appears to me that Arti's plant here: http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Yellow%20Trumpet%20Creeper.html

[efloraofindia:42545] Re: Campsis radicans 'Flava' at FOI

2010-07-28 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar
Sorry, but my intention was to say that the two links provided by Tabish sir from FOI belong to the same plant. Yes your plant is a different one for sure. Regards Pankaj

Re: [efloraofindia:42544] Re: Dioscorea belophylla?? 250710-PKA1

2010-07-28 Thread Prashant awale
Dear Friends, Response from Dr. Milind Sardesai ji... "It is Dioscorea bulbifera only. There is great variation range one can observe in Dioscorea". Thanks Dr Milind ji & Dinesh ji. regards Prashant On 7/27/10, Dinesh Valke wrote: > > Dear Prashant ... my mistake earlier. > This indeed is, *Dio

Re: [efloraofindia:42543] Re: Campsis radicans 'Flava' at FOI

2010-07-28 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Tecomella has simple entire leaves. This one from FOI has compound leaves with serrate leaflets. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http:

Re: [efloraofindia:42542] Re: Campsis radicans 'Flava' at FOI

2010-07-28 Thread Pankaj Kumar
To tabish sir, You know I thought both of ur link belongs to the same plant :). Pankaj

Re: [efloraofindia:42541] Re: Campsis radicans 'Flava' at FOI

2010-07-28 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Oh I missed, there is one more, Tecomariaas all these name suggests, (tecomaria, Tecomella, and Tecomopsis), it basically means, they look like Tecoma. To me Infundibuliformis and campanulate, doesnt make much difference, former means funnel shaped and latter means bell shaped, and both charact

Re: [efloraofindia:42540] Re: Campsis radicans 'Flava' at FOI

2010-07-28 Thread Gurcharan Singh
This is what (from eFlora of Pakistan) should help: 11 (10)Corolla infundibuliform, ± curved, 4-lobed Tecomaria +Corolla broad campanulate-ventricose, 5

Re: [efloraofindia:42539] Androsace rotundifolia from Kashmir

2010-07-28 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Thanks Vijayasankar ji, Tabish ji and Pankaj for nice comments -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On

Re: [efloraofindia:42538] Re: Campsis radicans 'Flava' at FOI

2010-07-28 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Yes Tabish sir, At one point I also thought that his current plant too is either Tecoma or Tecomopsis or may be Tecomella. This group seems to be very tricky. So I am not sure about the id. Regards Pankaj On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Tabish wrote: > Hmm... food for thought. If what Gurchar

[efloraofindia:42537] Re: Fwd: Jasmine for ID : AK-1

2010-07-28 Thread Tabish
This is definitely not Jasminum multiflorum. J. multiflorum has a characteristic closed-packed flower cluster. http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Kunda.html Also the leaves are covered with velvety hairs (J. pubescens is a synonym). The leaves in the pictures here appear to be smooth and

[efloraofindia:42536] Re: Campsis radicans 'Flava' at FOI

2010-07-28 Thread Tabish
Hmm... food for thought. If what Gurcharan ji is suggesting is correct, then Arti's plant here http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Yellow%20Trumpet%20Creeper.html could actually be Tecoma fulva: http://www.meemelink.com/prints%20pages/12834.Bignoniaceae%20-%20Tecoma%20fulva.htm http