[efloraofindia:49511] Re: Eria conrardii Almeida

2010-10-05 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
Thank you Rashida ji, the key brings in more food for thought. I am yet to see E. pubescens and E. mysorensis. Can you pls provide locations where they can be searched? 'Orchids of Bombay' gives E. pubescens Wight as syn of E. mysorensis Lindl. Regards, Shrikant. On Oct 4, 5:38 am, shrikant

Re: [efloraofindia:49513] Re: KAAS..Ata BAA...SS !

2010-10-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
No, I am talking about may be the german version of the phrase where they specifically say INDIAN CRABS!! Pankaj On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com wrote: It is not Indian Crabs but habit of all crabs in general. This phrase is popularly used  for Cancerian

Re: [efloraofindia:49514] Re: KAAS..Ata BAA...SS !

2010-10-05 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Having hundreds of German fans but never heard it. If they say Indian Crabs then one can correct it by giving this simple scientific explanation. :) Leg pulling is Global Phenomenon even common in Plant Kingdom. Many terms it as Allelopathy. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:08

Re: [efloraofindia:49515] Re: KAAS..Ata BAA...SS !

2010-10-05 Thread nabha meghani
Hallo, Pankaj ji and Pankaj ji, I too have never heard this phrase. But never mind. After having lived in england and germany (apart from india) and knowing many more countries in europe and south america, I would say, it is not only indians have this bad habbit and Pankaj Kumar ji says (We

Re: [efloraofindia:49516] ID041010phk1

2010-10-05 Thread rajdeo singh
Hello, Check for Desmodium congestum or D. heterocarpon. Rajdeo Singh Project fellow DIMPR Project, St. Xavier's College, Mumbai

Re: [efloraofindia:49517] Request for ID – 040910S C1

2010-10-05 Thread Satish Phadke
Sorry to say but I think We should close this thread. It is difficult to attempt an ID even when many features are visible; here I think only leaves are visible. Anybody attempting an ID is mere guessing with one visible character,considering the two responses we got. I think it will be worthwhile

[efloraofindia:49518] Re: Request for ID – 040910S C1

2010-10-05 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
I agree with Neilji on Pavetta crassicaulis. Nothapodytes should have been in flowers. I also agree with Satishji on 'wanting' information..Regards, Shrikant On Sep 4, 4:13 pm, shobha chavda koa...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone help me in identifying this plant? Date / Time – 21st Aug. 2010 /

Re: [efloraofindia:49521] Plant for ID SMP 2 Oct 2010

2010-10-05 Thread Gurcharan Singh
I think Oldenlandia corymbosa -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:36 AM,

Re: [efloraofindia:49523] Re: is it Sphenostylis bracteatus?

2010-10-05 Thread manasikaran
Thanks Aparna ji for your elaborate description of the plant because I could not find it on internet and yes it was not a climber I forgot to mention that. It was a small herb. I feel Shrikant ji’s id is matching with the plant I saw there. Thank you Shrikant ji. Thank you all. :) Regards,

[efloraofindia:49525] Re: Plant for ID SMP 2 Oct 2010

2010-10-05 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
Yes, I agree with Singh ji. Note top of the capsule is flat and not rounded, protruding (as in O. herbacea). Regards, Shrikant On Oct 5, 7:41 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: I think Oldenlandia corymbosa -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired  Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College,

[efloraofindia:49526] Re: Pimpinella species

2010-10-05 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
P. tomentosa from the locality. Could have been confirmed from leaves. Regards, Shrikant On Oct 5, 7:43 pm, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Many of these were seen blooming in Mariai ghat section few KM from Pune on 3rd Oct2010. Some *Pimpinella *species. All the herbs were full of

[efloraofindia:49527] Re: Plant for ID SMP 2 Oct 2010

2010-10-05 Thread Satish Phadke
Thanks Gurcharan ji and Shrikant ji I was searching the key for Hedyotis for differentiating between *H.herbacea * and *H.corymbosa* The features seen here.. Flowers pedicelled, usually in pairs or threes. Capsule globose crown flat (as against protruding in H. herbacea) clearly

Re: [efloraofindia:49529] Re: Eria conrardii Almeida

2010-10-05 Thread Rashida Atthar
Shrikant ji , here's the info. - E. mysorensis Lindl.- Flowers-July- October, Distribution: Mahabaleshwar, koina valley, Konkan, Satara. E.pubescens (Hook) Lindl. Flowers- April-May. Distribution : Pune! That's good news for you! but one info. on pg 44 I quote Eria pubescens Wt.Icon. 1634,

Re: [efloraofindia:49530] Re: Plant for ID SMP 2 Oct 2010

2010-10-05 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Satish ji I think we have decided to follow in order of preference: 1. Kew World checklist, for genera which are covered 2. Sorting Plant Names of M. M. P. N. D, for genera covered 3. GRIN for the taxa which are covered therein 4. Latest Flora or Monograph Kew World Checklist recognises

Re: [efloraofindia:49531] Madras pea pumpkin - Cucumis maderaspatanus

2010-10-05 Thread Rashida Atthar
Yes sir, the difference was clear yesterday itself by Dinesh ji's pictures. Thanks Raghu ji for the nice pictures of this plant. One observation the ripe fruit does not have the white marks that I have seen on the fruits in Mumbai forest, or maybe the marks go away after they are totally ripe.

Re: [efloraofindia:49532] Pumpkin flowers

2010-10-05 Thread Yazdy Palia
Friends it could be ash gourd also. Please check the link given below. http://www.padvalagriculture.com/2009/02/pollination-fruiting-in-ash-gourd.html Regards Yazdy. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: I think this is a climber of Pumpkin what we eat as

Re: [efloraofindia:49533] Re: Plant for ID SMP 2 Oct 2010

2010-10-05 Thread tanay bose
Oldenlandia corymbosa for me this plant is a weed in West Bengal. Tanay On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Satish ji I think we have decided to follow in order of preference: 1. Kew World checklist, for genera which are covered 2. Sorting Plant Names

Re: [efloraofindia:49534] Fwd: [indiantreepix:22799] Is my id correct? - Leucas longifolia _OCT09_SSN2

2010-10-05 Thread Yazdy Palia
Friends, I think it is correctly identified as Leucas Longifolia. Please check the link given below. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucas_longifolia Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:07 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Resurfacing again for ID confirmation. -- Dr. Gurcharan

Re: [efloraofindia:49535] Re: Plant for ID SMP 2 Oct 2010

2010-10-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Thanks a lot for this M. M. P. N. D. thing. I wasnt aware of it. I dont know when this was decided, but I am happy it was. Yeah, ID is correct for sure Pankaj On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:28 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: Oldenlandia corymbosa for me this plant is a weed in

Re: [efloraofindia:49536] Pumpkin flowers

2010-10-05 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Satish ji Yazdy ji may be right: Broad serrated calyx lobes, non-drooping petals and importantly free anthers all point to Benincasa hispida. My only fear is flowers look smaller, or was it a distant shot?. Satish ji could you recollect the diameter of opened flowers. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Re: [efloraofindia:49537] Re: is it Sphenostylis bracteatus?

2010-10-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Thanks a lot Aparna for the details. You come from no where all of a sudden drop a bomb and then vanish.. This group needs regular participation from people like you!! Pankaj On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:18 PM, manasikaran manasika...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Aparna ji for your elaborate

Re: [efloraofindia:49538] Madras pea pumpkin - Cucumis maderaspatanus

2010-10-05 Thread Dinesh Valke
... true, Rashida ji, ... have seen most often, the variegated design on the raw fruit (of *M. maderaspatana*) disappears as it ripens. Regards. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote: Yes sir, the difference was clear yesterday itself by Dinesh ji's

Re: [efloraofindia:49539] Pumpkin flowers

2010-10-05 Thread Yazdy Palia
Dear Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji, The flowers of Pumpkin and that of Ash gourd are almost same size if I recollect correct. Moreover during drought or less rainfall, the flowers could be smaller. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Satish ji

[efloraofindia:49541] Re: Walnut tree, fruit

2010-10-05 Thread Sangeetha
Hi Sushmita ji, Tamarind also exhibits allelopathic effect. Regards, Sangeeth mallika On Oct 4, 11:08 pm, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Mani ji. I did not know that walnut is an allelopathic tree. What are the other common trees that are allelopathic? Are neem and

Re: [efloraofindia:49542] Pumpkin flowers

2010-10-05 Thread Rashida Atthar
Very interesting and informative link Yazdy ji. Thanks. regards, Rashida. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Friends it could be ash gourd also. Please check the link given below.

Re: [efloraofindia:49543] Re: Walnut tree, fruit

2010-10-05 Thread Satish Phadke
I suppose some conifers like pinus roxburghii also have this property. Due to the acidic nature of dried leaves which fall on the ground no other vegetation can grow. Am I right? On 5 October 2010 22:02, Sangeetha sangeeth.mall...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sushmita ji, Tamarind also exhibits

[efloraofindia:49544] Re: KAAS..Ata BAA...SS !

2010-10-05 Thread Dr. Arvind Kadus
Dear All I do not agree with few statements of Shrikant Ji like 'Kas flora diversity and distribution has not changed a bit in the last 35 years. This is in spite of trampling, burning, grazing and other local interventions over infinite years. Plants regenerating from seeds are abundent and

Re: [efloraofindia:49545] Re: Walnut tree, fruit

2010-10-05 Thread Rashida Atthar
Good to see Walnut tees from India and California! Thanks Sushmita ji and Dr. Gurcharan ji. regards, Rashida. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose some conifers like pinus roxburghii also have this property. Due to the acidic nature of dried

Re: [efloraofindia:49546] Madras pea pumpkin - Cucumis maderaspatanus

2010-10-05 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks Dinesh ji. regards, Rashida. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: ... true, Rashida ji, ... have seen most often, the variegated design on the raw fruit (of *M. maderaspatana*) disappears as it ripens. Regards. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:07 PM,

Re: [efloraofindia:49547] Pumpkin flowers

2010-10-05 Thread Yazdy Palia
You are welcome Rashida Ji Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote: Very interesting and informative link Yazdy ji. Thanks. regards, Rashida. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Friends it could be

Re: [efloraofindia:49548] Pumpkin flowers

2010-10-05 Thread Yazdy Palia
Satish ji, It is very common that the seeds thrown in the garbage sprout and most often the vines/ plants are very healthy because of the microorganism that multiply in the heap and form very nice compost. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [efloraofindia:49549] Re: Eria conrardii Almeida

2010-10-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
:)) On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote: Shrikant ji , here's the info. - E. mysorensis Lindl.- Flowers-July- October, Distribution: Mahabaleshwar, koina valley, Konkan, Satara. E.pubescens (Hook) Lindl. Flowers- April-May.  Distribution : Pune!  

Re: [efloraofindia:49550] Walnut tree, fruit

2010-10-05 Thread Yazdy Palia
Dr. Gurcharan Singh Ji, I do not know about walnut tree and allelopathy. I have seen that nothing grows under a tree where the shade is so thick that no sunlight penetrates. I have seen someone claim that tamarind tree has also the allelopathy effect. I can not agree to that as I have a couple of

Re: [efloraofindia:49552] Species Id DKV 04102010- 2

2010-10-05 Thread Dinesh Valke
Dev ji ... if you have any more photos of this plant, please post them ... the pods seem cylindrical to me ... that is intriguing. Regards. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Dev Kumar dev.kumar.vasude...@gmail.comwrote: Location The forests near Kajligarh fort Mhow Tehsil Indore district

[efloraofindia:49553] Re: Carallia integerrima

2010-10-05 Thread Sangeetha
Hi Rashida ji, There is a small patch of landlocked mangroves (just 0.7 ha with about 36 trees) in Shravan kavadia, 40 kms from Bhuj, Gujarat. This is an evidence of an ancient shoreline in the region. Geomorphologic changes in the region is obvious due to the transgression of the sea. This is

[efloraofindia:49555] Re: Walnut tree, fruit

2010-10-05 Thread Sangeetha
Palia ji, Tamrind root exudates have allelopathic competence and are evaluated for sustainable weed management programs. The bark and the seeds have differential (inhibitory and excitatory) allelopathic effects. They have some growth regulators which additively or synergestically involve in plant

[efloraofindia:49556] Re: Walnut tree, fruit

2010-10-05 Thread Shantanu
Hi Sangeeth ji nice info about the allelopathic effects of tamarind exudates. regards Shantanu : ) On Oct 5, 11:13 pm, Sangeetha sangeeth.mall...@gmail.com wrote: Palia ji, Tamrind root exudates have allelopathic competence and are evaluated for sustainable weed management programs. The

Re: [efloraofindia:49560] Scarlet blossoms- Kolkata

2010-10-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Salvia splendens Pankaj On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Shantanu Bhattacharya shnt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi took the snap of these lovely Scarlet blossoms in my school's garden regards Shantanu :) Shantanu Bhattacharya. B.Sc, M.Sc (Zoology) University of Calcutta. Teaching Faculty.

Re: [efloraofindia:49561] Wild flower- Shyamkhola Kolkata

2010-10-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
This is a Curcuma, but cant be sure of the species. When was it flowering? Pankaj On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Shantanu Bhattacharya shnt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi got this wild flower near a bamboo glade of Shyamkhola few kms away from Kolkata. what flower this can be regards

Re: [efloraofindia:49563] Re: Carallia integerrima

2010-10-05 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Rashida ji Thanks for showing us so many interesting plants after a gap of several days. You have very well compensated your temporary absence from the group. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas

Re: [efloraofindia:49564] Wild flower- Shyamkhola Kolkata

2010-10-05 Thread Shantanu Bhattacharya
Pankaj ji do u think its some kind of wild turmeric? welli took this snap in May 2010. regards Shantanu : ) On 10/6/10, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: This is a Curcuma, but cant be sure of the species. When was it flowering? Pankaj On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:07 AM,

Re: [efloraofindia:49565] Red Nongmangkha- Bhutan

2010-10-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Wow!! I added a pic of these from near Corbet!! Pankaj On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Shantanu Bhattacharya shnt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi The Red Nongmangkha (Phlogacanthus pubinervius) is an evergreen shrub which is particularly showy in spring with its dense upright spikes of of brick-red,

Re: [efloraofindia:49566] Wild flower- Shyamkhola Kolkata

2010-10-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Yeah is is some wild turmeric but not Curcuma longa for sure. Cant be sure of species. But. during summer one of the plants which comes out like this is Curcuma angustifolia. Floral stalk emerges before the foliar stalk. But cant confirm. Pankaj On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Shantanu

Re: [efloraofindia:49567] Request for ID – 040910S C1

2010-10-05 Thread tanay bose
Dear Arvind Ji, I think your plant is Nothapodytes nimmoniana but having holes in the leaves is not diagonistic to this plant. Theseholes may be dure to insect or fungal invasion! Kindly check couple of more photos from the link provided below, an intact plant doesn't have these holes.

Re: [efloraofindia:49569] Red Nongmangkha- Bhutan

2010-10-05 Thread tanay bose
Dear Santanu da, This plant was posted by you previously and I identified it. http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/1e6ba52114686b21/1d6e22788e24e915?hl=enq=Phlogacanthus+pubinervius+tanay Reagrds Tanay On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Pankaj Kumar

Re: [efloraofindia:49570] Wild flower- Shyamkhola Kolkata

2010-10-05 Thread tanay bose
This is *Curcuma amada *commony known as Mango Ginger found as wild plant in Bengal. Tanay On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah is is some wild turmeric but not Curcuma longa for sure. Cant be sure of species. But. during summer one of the plants

Re: [efloraofindia:49571] Wild flower- Shyamkhola Kolkata

2010-10-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
I am very much doubtful for amada. But anyways, cant confirm! Pankaj On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:36 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: This is Curcuma amada commony known as Mango Ginger found as wild plant in Bengal. Tanay On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Pankaj Kumar

Re: [efloraofindia:49573] Re: Walnut tree, fruit

2010-10-05 Thread Yazdy Palia
Sangeetha Ji, Thank you for the enlightenment. You will observe that I have mentioned that these are the observation of a lay person. For your reference, I will send you the picture of the growth under my tamarind tree a few hours later. Thank you once again. I would love to receive the study that

Re: [efloraofindia:49574] Re: Walnut tree, fruit

2010-10-05 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yazdy ji I don't know much about Tamarindus but Juglans allelopathic effects I know even before I was a student of botany. Hardly any plant grows beneath or in the vicinity of Walnut tree. Juglans (both species J. nigra the black walnut of America and J. regia, the English walnut) leaves, bark,

Re: [efloraofindia:49577] Torenia or Lindernia? 270810-PKA2

2010-10-05 Thread Gurcharan Singh
I think Torenia fournieri http://holidaze.blog.eonet.jp/memo/annuals/index.html -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089

[efloraofindia:49578] Re: KAAS..Ata BAA...SS !

2010-10-05 Thread gsuhas
Dear Shrikant Accepted, over last 35 years there is no much change in flora of Kas. I know you are visiting the place for years. Even once we were together and I had come to Kas with you in your car. That is about 5/6 years back. But if you remember, that time we were only 4 on total Kas

[efloraofindia:49582] Re: Walnut tree, fruit

2010-10-05 Thread Sangeetha
Palia ji, Please find the study in the links given below. Hope its useful to you. http://www.springerlink.com/content/xx2j657m24twu832/ http://www.springerlink.com/content/p21qhl0431018786/ Regards, Sangeetha On Oct 6, 5:57 am, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Sangeetha Ji, Thank you

Re: [efloraofindia:49583] What is the name of this shrub? Its leaves cause a lot of irritation.

2010-10-05 Thread Yazdy Palia
Tanay ji may be right. This herb has been identified in the past, I had submitted the pictures and there was quite a long thread. Regards Yazdy. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Resurfacing again for ID confirmation Earlier feedback Nayan