, they belong to the prairies.
and what about ?String (cynicism)
Have a good day.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 11:42 AM Rowan Collins
wrote:
> On 03/04/2019 18:13, M. W. Moe wrote:
> > The argument sits there.
> >
> > function handle(int $cmd, ...$arg) : int /* throw */
> >
Thanks!
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 1:24 PM G. P. B. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I don't really see the point of it as you self said this wouldn't add a
> runtime check, so in what is it different to a comment?
> More so reusing ! for this will, in my opinion, just lead to confusion as
> people will think
Hello people,
I have a quick question before any formal proposal; would it be complex to
add an exclamation mark indicatorin front a function identifier to indicate
that function throws; like the nullable question mark for types however
without any runtime check something like a pure syntax
documentation and a throw vs nothrow is an
important contextual information, it will forcibly
change the way you engage it.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 9:20 AM Sara Golemon wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 11:07 AM M. W. Moe wrote:
>
>> I have a quick question before any formal proposal; would i
The argument sits there.
function handle(int $cmd, ...$arg) : int /* throw */
function !handle(int $cmd, ...$arg) : int
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:10 AM M. W. Moe wrote:
> Hello,
>
> yes this is very true, but still foreign to the language construct; empty
> contextual indicators it
r. 2019 à 18:52, M. W. Moe a écrit :
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > not documenting at first is not really a question of laziness or so, as
> > things are still moving around
> > you absolutely need this agility; a good design layout between theory
> and
> > st
, should
be carried by the syntax even if informal, anyhow could evolve over time.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:24 AM Rowan Collins
wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 17:52, M. W. Moe wrote:
>
> > not documenting at first is not really a question of laziness or so, as
> > things are s
keyword; you can do without
especially with the new traits construct.
Best.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 9:42 AM Rowan Collins
wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 17:27, M. W. Moe wrote:
>
> > yes this is very true; but usually on complex design with a lot of folks
> > working on it you s
Hello @Stephen Reay,
yes I have that in my, I was thinking about reusing the `throw` keyword and
re-contextualizing it à la use
function handle(int $cmd, ...$args) : int throw(legit, error) /*
Throws only those else triggers runtime error */
{ return -1; }
function handle(int
Hello,
what about exposing a strict keyword option or a php ini option?
- NO - leave as it isdefault
- YES - allow trailing whitespace punks
- YES - disallow leading whitespace sane people
On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 1:57 AM Benjamin Morel
wrote:
> What about
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 17:05, M. W. Moe wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> what about exposing a strict keyword option or a php ini option?
>>
>> - NO - leave as it isdefault
>> - YES - allow trailing whitespace punks
>> - YES - d
Hello,
there is some trace of absolutism in every statements:
first;;; saying php is a highly dynamic is not not fact but a sorry ***
excuse; ain't part of engineering ; admitting php5 is a load of idiotic
mistakes yes; I like people going for reality not ideology; with facts you
can work with
deprecate short closing tag
wrote:
>
> Finally!!! everybody will be able to parse my xml files with embedded
> php1!1 if I ever wrote one!!!
>
> Sorry for the sarcasm, please don't consider this as a personal attack. The
> whole community (not just you) considers short open tags poison
Hello,
for now what I see is a bit of everything:
- adding a contextual keyword/alias to function
- enforce by reference
- a lack of coherence
too mockups (I like the arrow idea but won't ever replace `use`
functionalities)
"keeping the unnecessary arrow"
class bar
{
public fn foo(int $x,
void
{ return; }
}
On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 5:33 PM M. W. Moe wrote:
> Hello,
>
> for now what I see is a bit of everything:
> - adding a contextual keyword/alias to function
> - enforce by reference
> - a lack of coherence
>
> too mockups (I like the arrow idea but won't ever rep
Hello,
i) was intentional.
ii) Not our fault, we do not have this function in our code-base and won't
ever; we would not even dare 8).
Cheers!
On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:44 AM Dan Ackroyd wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 04:21, M. W. Moe wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
, 2019 at 9:23 PM Stephen Reay
wrote:
>
> > On 11 Apr 2019, at 00:32, M. W. Moe wrote:
> >
> > I have never seen ML programmers being improductive;
>
> Great. I’ve never seen a pig crash a plane, therefore all pilots should be
> pigs?
>
> Given your previo
@Fabien S
yes, I think you could remove decoration; but still lambda capture process
must
be clarified i.e iterating your ruleset; you don't want to capture every
scope variables.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 8:22 AM Fabien S wrote:
> Thanks a lot for all your efforts Nikita.
>
> I really like
t;> projecting your own limitations as a valuable intellectual argument; , not
>> myself; my remark was just an illustration.
>>
>> You have a good day!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 9:23 PM Stephen Reay
>> wr
@Robert Hickman
yes somehow that's a valid conclusion; however, I can walk and talk; it
does not
bother me at all; I like distractions.
You have a nice day.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:38 AM Robert Hickman
wrote:
> @M. W. Moe If you don't like the java-isms you can ignore them to a
>
introduce a
point of `ironism`; would help or not.
You have a good day; thank you.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 10:41 AM M. W. Moe wrote:
> @Robert Hickman
>
> yes somehow that's a valid conclusion; however, I can walk and talk; it
> does not
> bother me at all; I like distractions.
>
Hello,
if you are upset; it's not the place here; your argument is efficiently
based on problems of indentation and handling commas
properly.
Moreover, but not least, you have no idea what a lambda is; if we admit it
what you propose; that is not feasible in PHP; why? because it would
require a
Hello,
mostly, your argument in your rfc, is all about not finding a good syntax;
hence your have a terrible coding style
and you want to change the language for that.
```
$fn = function (
T1 $arg1_
, T1 $arg2_
, T1 $arg3_
, T1 $arg4_
, T1 $arg5_
, T1 $arg6_
) use ($var1, &$var2, &$var3,
Hello,
didn't get any; should ask over folks; I suspect it originates from a
frustrated individual
which didn't found anything else smarter than spams to achieve his pity
vendetta.
Did you kept the original ones?
tschüss.
On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 8:12 AM Sara Golemon wrote:
> On Sat, May 18,
Ok thanks for the heads-up
hence, if that 's exim you might write a script that keeps alike to
quarantine.
On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 11:16 AM Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
> Den lør. 18. maj 2019 kl. 20.19 skrev M. W. Moe :
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > didn't get any; shoul
Hello,
"Disabling function mocking is good", in my life I read many idioties; this
one gets the "Palme d'Or";
This majesty; crowned Emperor.
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 11:45 AM Marco Pivetta wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2019, 20:01 Gabriel O, wrote:
>
> >
> > On 20 May 2019 7:17:58 PM Theodore Brown
Hello,
a bit of fuzz; no need having a dramatic posture either; php RFC system
needs to be matured; the same way
than c++ fellowship (I don't say it was without dramas over the years); in
my opinion there are two many of them
opened at the same time; some targets strictly the userspace; some
Hello,
the _convert_to_string return signature should be changed i.e returning a
status;
hence, accordingly to this status, within a context caller, you may decide
to trigger
an exception or not ; that's not the role of a conversion function to
handle
those concerns; thus the realm is wider than
Hello,
"Since we can define array element by reference now, it doesn't make sense
to change the way of storing values just because it's unpacking. In other
words, the conversion of how values are stored isn't part of spread
operator."
yes it is; no matter what you "think"; banding reality/facts
Hello,
Sebastian yes; interface or abstract have been somehow created for that
purpose; even if I find people abusing of those constructs; now if your
container is generalized and represents dynamic data; for instance like a
Message class
it could hold dynamic data types;
let say:
// abstract
Hello,
just deprecate it; please stop this load of nonsense; it's not even a
rational discussion here; that's a lot of idiotic rumblings.
Have a good day.
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:23 AM Chase Peeler wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 2:20 PM Сергей Пантелеев
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > >Also
Hello,
the underlaying discussion here is more important; than just voting yes or
no on uncompleted hamiltonian graphs; the real question here does php8 will
be a break thru; meaning bugger off the mistakes of the past or a
continuation of them; until this RCF does not happen; I would say nothing
@Stephen Reay,
I have never seen ML programmers being improductive; that's because maybe
you witness people
unfit for it; math is less character and contextual i.e meanings change
according to environment;
it's fully readable to people fitted for it.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 10:18 AM M. W. Moe
Hello,
this is not much the syntax which is problematic here but the implicit
lambda capture ruleset proposed; for that,
it would require (fully justified in this case) a preprocessing step hence
a language contextual analysis step
or what people call `static`.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 2:35 AM
Hello,
if you would drop zend engine as is and the idea behind it (which is most
difficult thing to admit and accept),
then use llvm-core. Making:
-- lexer, parser grammar
-- reference counting
-- type hint policies
-- builtins container
-- JITTER for compatibility.
-- bytecode
-- LLVM bytecode
Hello,
this would be very possible constant with the actual without breaking BC
allow declare var = value : type; -> throws if assignment + type fails
the grammar context is exactly the same than a function return.
Best.
On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:18 AM Andreas Hennings
wrote:
> On Wed, 4
You try to mix static and dynamic linkage; there is something wrong
regarding the setup of target platform;
enumerate details about flavors.
On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 10:13 PM Stanislav Malyshev
wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Looks like commit eef85229d0fe9f69d325aa0231e592f35c468afb broke
> oss-fuzz builds:
>
ok got thru the link: I think it's written in plain sight `recompile with
-fPIE and relink with -pie`.
On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 10:42 AM M. W. Moe wrote:
> You try to mix static and dynamic linkage; there is something wrong
> regarding the setup of target platform;
> enumerate deta
Hello,
"A little side-node: random_int(0, 0) does not throw an exception which
makes random_bytes and random_int inconsistent by your logic ;-)"
not really; there are still different functions; hence they can differ in
their behavior; + that's not a matter of individual logic but an api
choice;
do you think because it's short you'll lose your virginity. I am sorry
about the vulgarity; but your stand is stand is ridiculous.
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 4:04 PM Olumide Samson wrote:
> I think something that deals with system commands should be highly obvious
> and should not be allowed
Hello,
would say intellectually speaking I could accept the argument of
time\investment\code however
in reality figuring out for someone having a minimum of shell experience in
that case, would figure
out in 5 minutes if he is very slow minded; none the less, learning new
features, new apis,
Hello,
I answered you privately about this kind of false assumptions and
projections. (I have an education)
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 1:38 PM Mike Schinkel wrote:
> > a middle ground about/with silliness? there is none, for people in their
> right mind; should people really find/force
> >
Hello,
what you write and advocate for can't be heard by a vast majority of people
here; because they are just not North-American; somehow
that's a very interesting trait; most of people despise `kind` moralism.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 2:14 PM Mike Schinkel wrote:
> > On Oct 8, 2019, at 4:29
@Mike Schinkel,
a middle ground about/with silliness? there is none, for people in their
right mind; should people really find/force
themselves into conciliation about non-sense? I don't think so and mostly;
I have no say about deprecating that;
but is that a priority? does it harm anyone?
Hello,
the point Stanislav is really not about whom; that's about thinking, work,
effort, personal walk thru a problem;
and I am sorry he is fully right; live example:
"I think that's been inconsistencies from the part of early contributors
which is the same reason we are having "haystack and
Hello,
I don't understand why people complain about PHP in term of comparison; if
they like more C# or python why don't just
go there?
historically php is a kind of C like dialect with some perlish running thru
an apache-mod giving the opportunity
to break free from the CGI cumbersome world;
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