ther it should be default - can Android cope with
IPv6-only networks today? If yes, then go for it :-) - if not, maybe not
this year...
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the NAT64 is working...)
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Hi,
On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 02:45:12PM +0100, Jen Linkova wrote:
> RIPE Atlas probe is a host. It should not care much if it's traffic is
> going via NAT64 box or not.
Actually detecting NAT64 and flagging as such, and being able to run
tests on a group of NAT64-hidden probes might add value...
(like, for an anycast service bound to a single
service IP), your routing gear must permit it.
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h prefix shortage if you have router cascades, due
to protocol inflexibility ("/56 router delegating /60 -> delegating /64
and then?"). With homenet, 250 subnets in the home would "just work"
given a /56, and I'm too narrow-minded to imagine deployments that need
more *sub
Hi,
On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 06:16:51PM +, Benedikt Stockebrand wrote:
> I want a drink. And something strong. Like drain cleaner, or at least
> battery acid.
This will help clean IPv4 out of the clouds?
cloud, cloud, cloud!
*So* much space in the cloud for long IPv6 addresses!
Hi,
On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 09:03:37PM +0200, Ivan Pepelnjak wrote:
> The problem is often internal networking. Every large cloud provider probably
> wrote their own overlay networking implementation, and would have to
> reimplement it for IPv6
And this comes as total surprise to them exactly
k is connecting using a PPPoE
> dialer,
... and your CPEs can cope with having no GUA on the WAN link (like,
for doing DNS lookups, or such). They *should*, but ...
> then yes, go ahead with unnumbered.
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t) that allows them to
> make properly sized (see the rest of this BCOP) assignments to their
> customers." or something like that.
+1
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he "double internal encapsulation" bit. Or if you can tell
it how to nicely IPSEC-encapsulate only the relevant tunnel packets.
*I* just use OpenVPN, which learned to transport IPv6 over IPv4
roughly 9 years ago... :-)
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Hi,
On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 08:18:31PM +0100, Gert Doering wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 11:39:54AM +0100, Michael Hock wrote:
> > I'm trying to set up an ipsec server on a linux machine. The connection
> > between clients and server should be IPv6 only but also needs to tra
"you need to do 'proto udp6'" is 2.3.x style (which can
use either IPv4 or IPv6 outside the tunnel, but not auto-detect what
is needed), while 2.4.x is fully dual-stacked and will use whatever
is in DNS and/or in the config.
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e same time?
I would guess that the IPv6 resolvers would work, but won't give
you DNS64 synthesis...
Since you have native v6 at home, it might just work :-) - I'll
definitely test!
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the
> NAT64 network, regardless of the port/protocol the query came over.
Nice!
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Hi,
On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 04:37:39AM +, Jetten Raymond wrote:
> However, I'm very willing to stand for re-election, and serve another term as
> IPv6 WG co-chair, which I hope you all find a good idea.
Sounds like a good idea indeed! *support* :-)
gert
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r 99% of the users, but rolling out anything *new* is near to impossible
unless you happen to be a browser vendor or major content network"
ossified...
(And the fact that it *does* work nicely and smoothly for most users
means it's fairly hard to convince anyone that this evo
how the existing network is operating.
If you have specific questions ("I have a PE router from vendor X, and
when I try to redistribute DHCPv6-relay into RIPng, the ethernet plugs
all fall out"), there are people here or on the more vendor-specific
lists (https://puck.nether.net/mailman/lis
Hi,
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 09:24:13PM +0200, Anton Rieger wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 08:10:19PM +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
> >Uh, no. The IETF decides what it is, and if they say it's private
> >(like they did with RFC1918), then it is.
> >
> >If they say i
for it, and anything
*new* can do IPv6 for new deployments - on islands, with gateways in
between, but incidentially that's the only way a 240/4 deployment could
succeeed as well. But hey, not my career to bet on 240/4 being useful :-) )
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t;gone is gone" - there just is
not enough v4, what else could we have done?
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;, and people could move their 2.4GHz-only-devices to this
SSID if they had problems in the dual-frequency SSID.
Not sure if this is still a thing.
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to your
dual-stacked firewall over IPv6, you will only be able to reach IPv6
hosts on the inside"?
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gt; should a small conference network with a huge number of network
> > engineers be any problem?
>
> There is quite a lot of NAT64 in mobile networks. As far as I know there
> is very little NAT64 on wifi. But I might be wrong. Any pointers to
> wide scale NAT64 on wifi?
Tro
hose who
> chose to use it as private address space.
> More FUD.
It's not "private address space" unless designated as such.
But yeah, if only used internally, you just need to upgrade all those
OS/2, Win95, WinXP systems, old internal routers, ... :-)
Gert Doering
Hi,
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 05:06:57PM +, Michel Py wrote:
> > Gert Doering wrote :
> > It's not "private address space" unless designated as such.
>
> Wrong again. It's not public unless given to RIRs to allocate it.
> FUD++
Uh, no. The IETF decides w
and we have neither config nor documentation,
so can you please figure out which networks it's trying to connect to and
make it work again, QUICKLY?")
*sigh*
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hat would be great for all those poor BGP-table-entry challenged routers!
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Hi,
On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 02:17:24PM +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
> You need to listen to the experts here
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v26BA
I could use an expert that explains to me this click-and-paste stuff
with modern browsers... anyway, the correct video is
ck if
all possible".
Which nowadays for "random visitor networks" can mean "NAT64+DNS64",
given that this already nicely works in mobile networks and more and
more "mobile internet usage" stuff is "iOS/Android clients or all-https"
anyway.
Gert Doering
Hi,
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 05:09:30PM +0200, Jens Link wrote:
>
> and DNS always breaks and is way to complicated and it's done by another
> team and we don't talk to them and creating tickets takes way to much
> time. ;-)
>
Programming is generally totally too hard. So we need better
Hi,
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 02:24:47PM +0200, Jens Link wrote:
> > Register at:
> > https://www.eventbrite.nl/e/ripe-ncceduca-ipv6-only-tickets-106761053184
>
> $ dig www.eventbrite.nl +short
> $
>
> "IPv6-only"
You spelled IPv4+ funny!
Gert Doer
t cleverly hidden in A records?
>
> In any case, for legacy IPv6 networks, just make sure that you have DNS64 and
> connecting to the internet will work just fine :-)
The point was that the NCC is marketing an "IPv6 only" event, using a
service provider who is not reachabl
the other tool wasn't chosen.
>
> Or not. You don't need to win all battles to win the war - just the
> important ones. This isn't one of them.
So which battles do *you* find important to push IPv6 deployment on the
content sidew?
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r, and many are still not
there.
The content and service and cloud and CDN and software development side
still seems to be very much in the "denial" part of the curve, alas.
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d like 15 years ago to provide dual-stack
for everything, and as far as I can see, they've done a good job with
that (thanks!).
Using external services with no IPv6 is something not that easily
addressed, but indeed, maybe some words might be spoken to these
suppliers...
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On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 03:00:27PM +0200, Sander Steffann wrote:
> I think you have been an excellent chair, and I'd love to see you
> continue for another term.
+1
lazy regards,
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- it does not discuss how it
> would be informed to the hosts on the first hop.
This has been addressed independent of Homenet, because it affects
ISP flash renumbering as well.
> Hence, no - solution 3 does not exist.
If phrased that way, neither do "solution 1" or "sol
.youtube.com/watch?v=v26BAlfWBm8) but
not really needed here.
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D-
e enough *for the infrastructure*
(4 billion /64 subnets), unless you start encoding stuff into network
prefixes that should not be there.
And no, people should not get /28s for (pure) "network numbers are hard"
reasons.
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rks.
All German mobile networks had IPv6 for many years now...
(For the record, the Incumbent is actually a leading network wrt "this is
how you do proper IPv6 deployment" over here, which hints at "we must
have been doing this for way too many years already"...)
Gert Doering
v6-only is similar to IPv4-only, but dual-stack, happy eyeballs,
logging, filtering for v4 and v6, and all that is just extra nuisance)
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bserver, mail server, VPN server!!), even if there is no
IPv6 on the "inside" network yet. Different zones, different purpose,
and "VPN endpoint with IPv6+IPv4" really helps clients sitting in an
"IPv6 is good, IPv4 is CGNAT" access network.
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So, what else can we do?
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t is not TCP or UDP won't survive, but since The Browser Oligopol
seems to be set to move everything into QUIC anyway, we should be fine...
It will nicely kill everything that is not Cloud or Rendezvous-Server-
based, but there's quite a few parties outside that would consider this
a feature.
So yes.
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 03, 2023 at 07:00:48PM +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> Gert Doering wrote on 03/06/2023 13:33:
> > So how do we get there?
>
> We got where we are now because there are compelling reasons to deploy
> ipv4, but not compelling reasons to deploy ipv6.
On &quo
people have become
used to" (and that's the worst bit of all).
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pany, there must be something we can't see for
it to make sense... (and no, "get lots of IP addresses because they might
turn out to be valuable assets" does not make sense either).
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Hi,
On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 04:00:49PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming via
ipv6-wg wrote:
> My colleague Dennis told he has an IPv6 certificate from Hurricane Electric.
> I have never heard of this certification before.
Google exists.
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because that reduces the number of confused users down...)
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o.
>
> I hope I can contribute to the IPv6 network networking (sic!) in the
> next years and look forward to seeing you in person at the next RIPE
> meeting.
Welcome on board, and happy to have you and your IPv6 energy on board :-)
Gert Doering
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