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> Keeping the same aspect ratio would mean also making that delta longer
> which would mean it is even bigger, thereby further widening the beam per
> work previously done here. 73 KAZ
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increasing the apex?
Cheers!
Mark Durenberger
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Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 1:33 PM
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OK Mark, let me understand what you're asking. You want
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
The Double Loop genre of antennas models to have better back end nulling
performance at relevant higher angles (ie rather short skip) than do the single
loops. This is because a double loop is nearly electrically
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> Kaz,
> I was surprised at the difference as well. The bottom wire of the KAZ is 2
> ft. off of
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Kaz,
I was surprised at the difference as well. The bottom wire of the KAZ is 2 ft.
off of the ground, the apex is 18 ft. above the bottom wire.
Craig
On Thursday, October 25, 2018, 12:03:04 PM MDT, Mark Pettifor
wrote:
My thinking on antennas is the same as
My thinking on antennas is the same as below: Getting rid of or reducing
interference and noise is the best way to hear what's left - the signal.
Because usually when you try to increase the signal, you also increase
the noise (at least, the noise that's in the same path as the signal),
yes?
Andare the Asian signals (their carriers) actually stronger on
the Kaz than on the Superloop, or is the "carrier to noise" ratio
better on the Kaz?You should be able to tell that by looking at
small portion of the Elad's display
If the interference level (noise / domestic splatter) is
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FWIW,
I have a 45ft long by 20 ft. high Superloop about 10 ft. off of the ground
currently aimed at ~300 degrees and a 72 ft single KAZ aimed at ~260 degrees,
making for a 40 degree orientation difference. I recently did a few impromptu A
vs B comparisons between the two
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> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
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> Apologies, Chuck, and to the rest here. In looking back at my post, I
> realize I could have said things a lot less arroga
Steve, I think your termination resistor is considerably too high and that
it would be worthwhile for you to try lower values. Other than that, I'd
not make any other changes to it as I don't think it would be worth all
that work.
73 KAZ
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 2:57 PM STEVE wrote:
> Here's my
Here's my (trivial) contribution. I'm mostly an LF NDB DXer and love to
hear any Pacific beacons. I had room for a DKAZ and hadn't heard about
the superiorities of longer horizontal length so put up the standard
140' DKAZ. Due to critters around, primarily javelina who will tear down
anything
back to the issue of DKAZ low band performance...…
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
Apologies, Chuck, and to the rest here. In looking back at my post, I
realize I could have said things a lot less arrogantly and put-offish.
That's how I sounded to myself anyway after re
] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
Apologies, Chuck, and to the rest here. In looking back at my post, I
realize I could have said things a lot less arrogantly and put-offish.
That's how I sounded to myself anyway after re-reading what I posted.
73,
Mark
On 2018-10-24 1:57 am, Chuck Hutton wrote:
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Apologies, Chuck, and to the rest here. In looking back at my post, I
realize I could have said things a lot less arrogantly and put-offish.
That's how I sounded to myself anyway after re-reading what I posted.
73,
Mark
On 2018-10-24 1:57 am, Chuck Hutton wrote:
Mark -
I suppose we all
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> **Anecdotal evidence alert**
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> I guess I'll risk getti
23, 2018 8:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
**Anecdotal evidence alert**
I guess I'll risk getting attacked with fruit as well. I got into the AM
DX part of the hobby only two years ago, so I didn't get the memo about
Ah yes, ladder work. I've been keeping in trim with outside house
painting in case it ever needs to be done again
best wishes,
Nick
At 04:09 2018-10-24, Volodya S wrote:
... Another array that we
experimented with was the Double loop Wellbrook, which also was no slouch
of a
Guy kindly built the Lankford Quad array for me back around the same time.
I took it up to my DX place in Masset. It was a bugger to erect, mostly
because I have very heavy and rapid growth of salal and alder trees .
After a 1/2 day of clearing bush, I was able to erect the array facing due
north
oman VE6JY
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:02 PM
To: International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
http://www.durenberger.com/documents/DKAZ070314.pdf is updated and
still
shows the 140 foot version. I don't see anything more recent I
wish I
had. Is th
Nick:
That's what EZNEC says via AutoEZ.
Chuck
From: IRCA on behalf of Nick Hall-Patch
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 7:48 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
Thanks for doing
up when pasting data from Excel.
Chuck
From: IRCA on behalf of Don Moman
VE6JY
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:02 PM
To: International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
http://www.durenberger.com/documents/DKAZ070314.pdf
To: International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
http://www.durenberger.com/documents/DKAZ070314.pdf is updated and still
shows the 140 foot version. I don't see anything more recent I wish I
had. Is there a link? I just built 4 of them last year, one for each
: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
http://www.durenberger.com/documents/DKAZ070314.pdf is updated and still
SOME FIELD INFORMATION ON THE DOUBLE DELTA (D KAZ)
ANTENNA<http://www.durenberger.com/documents/DKAZ070314.pdf>
www.durenberger.com
The D‐Kaz antenna for MW (and well above) is a Double
on behalf of Nick Hall-Patch
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
The DKaz does indeed deliver less signal to the receiver at the low
end of the band.But does that mean that the DX signals
I'm trying to but I'm blasted with a lot of work right now and other
issues. Sigh, someday.
Todd Skaine
ICOM 7300 wth a Superloop
2 Modified 2010s barefoot
Toyota car radio
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 6:14 PM R. Colin Newell
wrote:
> Begging pardon if I’m speaking out of turn - my FLAGS (45 x 27’)
for the International Radio Club of America'
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Bill uses a "big" D-Kaz (160 ft)
Cheers!
Mark Durenberger
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:38 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club
http://www.durenberger.com/documents/DKAZ070314.pdf is updated and still
shows the 140 foot version. I don't see anything more recent I wish I
had. Is there a link? I just built 4 of them last year, one for each major
direction. I finally have them all hooked up for this season. With the
of America'
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
Bill uses a "big" D-Kaz (160 ft)
Cheers!
Mark Durenberger
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:38 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Cc: C B
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Bill uses a "big" D-Kaz (160 ft)
Cheers!
Mark Durenberger
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From: IRCA On Behalf Of C B via IRCA
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:38 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Cc: C B
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pe
Kazaross
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 8:37 AM
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
A major advantage of the DKAZ is the significantly wider back null so that
more back end QRM is taken out or greatly reduced. Of course, the more
narrow beamwidth is very useful on
: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
A major advantage of the DKAZ is the significantly wider back null so that
more back end QRM is taken out or greatly reduced. Of course, the more
narrow beamwidth is very useful on crowded freqs and one reason I am able
to catch 2nd tier stations from west coast
That might be worth pursuing...
Cheers!
Mark Durenberger
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From: IRCA On Behalf Of Mark Pettifor
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:51 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
I agree - good
I agree - good discussion! Especially for antenna newbies like myself. I
hope you veterans never get tired of going over well-traveled territory
in open discussion groups like the IRCA list.
What's great about hobbies like this is that you can go in as deep as
you want, and no matter what
My Flags are generally 27' H By 45-55' Rectangles with the remotely
variable termination attached to the centre of the vertical span facing the
direction I wish to reject -
and the FLG100 head amp is located in the Centre of the vertical span
facing the DX.
I am assuming that this is the
-core-dx.com
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
Thx Mark, can't wait to see what you found. I hope you were still able to crush
KSTP 1500 in back null while still having good nulls elsewhere with a fixed
Vactrol setting using 170 ft.
73 KAZ
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 11:26 AM Mark Durenberger
iling list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
Hi Nick,
The best F/B of any phased antenna I've experienced at the coast was Dallas
Lankford's Quad Delta Flag Array (QDFA). I know you're quite familiar with
this, but some others on the IRCA list may no
Hi Nick,
The best F/B of any phased antenna I've experienced at the coast was Dallas
Lankford's Quad Delta Flag Array (QDFA). I know you're quite familiar with
this, but some others on the IRCA list may not be. Here is an archived link
to Dallas' article on this antenna:
son between a 140-foot and a
> 170-foot DKAZ, data taken this summer.
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> Cheers!
>
> Mark Durenberger
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> -Original Message-
> From: IRCA On Behalf Of Neil Kazaross
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:38 AM
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> Subj
CA on behalf of Nick
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> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 8:19 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
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> Try this, Chuck (or anyone else who is having problems):
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
For the coastal DXer, I think that the takeaway
from the presentation was that the really
important thing is not so much the response from
the two quadrants facing out over the ocean, but
rather, the two quadrants facing
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
Try this, Chuck (or anyone else who is having problems):
http://www3.telus.net/public/shallpat/4all/Antenna%20alternatives_stub-re-FlagDKaz.pdf
As the file name says, it's just the relevant
slides of the presentation. Pages
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> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
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> Try this, Chuck (or anyone else who is having problems):
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>
> http://www3.telus.net/public/shal
of Nick Hall-Patch
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 8:19 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
Try this, Chuck (or anyone else who is having problems):
http://www3.telus.net/public/shallpat/4all/Antenna%20alternatives_stub-re
From: IRCA on
behalf of Nick Hall-Patch
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 5:39 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America; C B
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
Not wishing to blow the personal horn, but please check out:
http
? (Sorry to sound like management)
Chuck
From: IRCA on behalf of Nick Hall-Patch
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 5:39 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America; C B
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
Not wishing to blow
, 2018 5:39 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America; C B
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
Not wishing to blow the personal horn, but please check out:
http://durenberger.com/documents/NHP2016.pptx
The DXFishbarrel -
durenberger.com<http://durenberger.
Not wishing to blow the personal horn, but please check out:
http://durenberger.com/documents/NHP2016.pptx
starting at slide 34, for a comparison of the
DKaz with a Flag at Grayland. (presentation from the 2016 IRCA convention)
Unless you have Quicktime on the computer you're
using, you
One area where a flag can't compete with a DKAZ is that the main beam of a DKAZ
is quite a bit narrower than for a corner fed loop. 3 dB bandwidth is about 150
degrees for a "flag" and 100 degrees for a DKAZ.
What factors are you lumping into "performance" F/B? F/S? Beanwidth? Gain?
Is it
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