Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread K. Washington
I'm sorry but I cannot afford to have 2 laptops. I'm glad you have the finances to own multiple laptops affording you the ability of upgrading to Windows 10, but for someone like myself it just isn't feasible. I'm using Windows 7 Home (64 Bit) with latest build of JAWS 17 and a TripleTalk

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread Dialup
Well, there's never an iron-clad guarantee that something may not go wrong in any update process. In fact, the most common advise you see is to back up your important data before undertaking any major update. And most people regularly update their important data, don't they! Glen *** On

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread TheHangMan
Hi, Please STOP complaining about windows 10 Jerald, And the person who posted upgrading a really sick computer to windows 10, Are you kidding, you should hit that PC with a bat first. We are not talking about anything that has to do with jaws or learning jaws.

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread Gerald Levy
Excuse me, but exactly how was I complaining about Windows 10? I merely pointed out that there are driver issues to consider before upgrading. My post was most certainly on topic for this list, but if you believe otherwise, then take it up with the moderators. And if you are happy with

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread Gerald Levy
Not necessarily. When I first connected my Samsung laser printer to my current Windows 7 PC, the OS could not find compatible drivers for it. This printer worked fine with my XP PC. So I had to visit the Samsung downloads site to find Wimdows 7 drivers for my printer. You cannot assume

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread Annette Carr
I personally believe that upgrading to Windows10 needs to be an individual decision. No one should be criticized for choosing to upgrade or not to upgrade. I am annoyed that Microsoft has taken this approach to force it on us, but that is not my reason for not upgrading. My primary reason is

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread Gerald Levy
Your advice is right-on. If you visit the manufacturer's web site to search for drivers for your peripheral devices, the site will usually detect which OS you currently have installed and search for drivers for that particular OS. So if, for instance, you visit the Samsung web site to

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread Kevin
the windows 10 OS is capable of detecting the drivers needed as with windows 7 and 8 -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 3:33 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread David Ferrin
Enough of all this bickering, I'm sick of reading all of these messages going around about do it, don't do it, ETC. If a person wants to upgrade or not it is their choice. The list is for supporting them in whatever decision they decide to make not to criticize them for going one way or another.

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread Kurt Miller
I agree. 2 of the Win 10 computers in the house we had to go and find the drivers for the printer. I have upgraded 1 of my computers and the other 1 I am not for various reasons, it's my choose to do so or not. This thread is going on forever. It's simple Microsoft wants everyone on 10 and is

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread TheHangMan
Hi, My Dell twine 3 in 1 and my canoscan with Openbook has had no problem with drivers. There is nothing wrong in using 2 laptops one running Wind 10 and the other Wind 7, because jaws is jaws. And I know that someone is going to have a problem on their hardwear compatibility. But, are we suppose

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread Kurt Miller
Thank you David. That is just what I was writing about, ending this thread. Have a great day. After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread Gerald Levy
And suppose list members take your advice and rush to upgrade to Windows 10 only to discover that their printers and scanners no longer work because Windows 10 drivers are not available for them. What then? Gerald -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Sunday, December 06,

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread K. Washington
That's the point those who are imploring everyone to upgrade do not tell you. You will encounter driver issues with printers, scanners, DVD players, USB drives and the list goes on. If you don't mind loosing the ability to use hardware devices you now rely on, then go ahead and upgrade to

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread Jim Pursley
Here's a thought. We have until 2020 to use a fully supported Win7 which works with few problems. I prefer to use the computer as a productivity tool and will leave upgrade headaches to others. When I find that Win10 has enhancements which will materially help me in my work, then I'll

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-06 Thread K. Washington
You are so right with this point. Even things like CD/DVD burners and Blu-ray players stop working due to driver issues with Windows 10. In addition the incompatibility issues JAWS has with the new Microsoft Edge browser makes this a no-brainer for me at least. I'm still using Windows 7 and

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-05 Thread Singing Sparrow
So all my files, and programs will not be deleted or ereased? On 12/6/2015 12:26 AM, Dialup@56k wrote: Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto. No, the update is painless. In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 PC

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-05 Thread Dialup
Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto. No, the update is painless. In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 PC last week which had multiple software driver issues. It is not running smoothly on Win 10. 'Caveat

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-05 Thread David Moore
Hi, When I upgraded to win10, I did not lose one file, non of my settings were changed, and everything worked on my computer just like it did before I upgraded. All I got were many many benefits. Please do not listen to all of the negative stuff going around out there. Jim Flusche helped a lot

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-05 Thread Singing Sparrow
Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct? If so are your files deleted when this update/upgrade is complete or are all your files/programs still

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-04 Thread Jim Pursley
Updates are divided (in Win7 at least) between important and recommended. I never download recommended because I chinstruct Windows to check for updates and let me decide whether to download and install. If the Win 10 install is an important upgrade, then you'd have to go into the details of

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-04 Thread Mario
Anna, In the past, I've suggested to uninstall KB3035583, and then hide it upon checking for updates, but I think what Gerald is implying is that if you leave the settings on windows updates to be performed automatically, you won't have any control as to what gets updated. On 12/4/2015 12:17

[JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-04 Thread anna vimini
Gerald if I do that I am clue less of which windows updates I should or shouldm't download. this is why I was asking which windows update causes the dialogue to that was mentioned below to appear? Re: [JAWS-Users] if your not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update To prevent Windows 10

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-04 Thread Mario
Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response I was going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security patch to a vulnerability, it is merely an update that reminds and facilitates users of 7 or 8.1 to reserve the free offer of upgrading to 10. so, I think not having

Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-04 Thread Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist)
Hi. You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343. Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3 updates before restart. When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search for updates, but don't

[JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-04 Thread anna vimini
Yes Gerald I remember you saying that to uninstall KB3,335,583 and I did but I left the automatic updates on so my question is now , will windows update still be able to install with KB3,335,582 missing? Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update Anna, In the

[JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-04 Thread anna vimini
sorry Gerald I meant Mario, Yes I remember you saying to uninstall KB 3,35,583 and I did but I left automatic updates on. so my question is now with that update missing will windows 10 still be able to install without me knowing or my permission ? Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for

[JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

2015-12-04 Thread anna vimini
Thanks Donny I think I know which one it is but I am not quite sure. since I am using windows 8.1 I think it is 3,112,336 but I can not be quite sure because it has not put a message in my system tray like yours did. as of yet. but I have a feeling that it will not do anything because I got rid