[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-668789 ] Autodeployment does not work

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #668789, was opened at 2003-01-15 15:15 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=668789group_id=22866 Category: JBossServer Group: v3.2 Status: Closed Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Stefan Arentz (sateh) Assigned to: Scott M

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-666662 ] Still problems redeploying with JDK 1.4 and jboss-3.0.5RC1

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #62, was opened at 2003-01-12 15:08 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=62group_id=22866 Category: JBossServer Group: v3.0 Rabbit Hole Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Loz (lozzer) Assigned to:

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-668805 ] 32RC1 - Every JMS message creates and destroys my MDB

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #668805, was opened at 2003-01-15 15:47 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=668805group_id=22866 Category: JBossServer Group: v3.2 Status: Closed Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Elias Ross (genman) Assigned to: Scott M

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-666662 ] Still problems redeploying with JDK 1.4 and jboss-3.0.5RC1

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #62, was opened at 2003-01-12 15:08 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=62group_id=22866 Category: JBossServer Group: v3.0 Rabbit Hole Status: Closed Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Loz (lozzer) Assigned to: Adrian

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-664459 ] JMS Message lost due to synchronization in MessageReference

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #664459, was opened at 2003-01-08 16:21 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=664459group_id=22866 Category: JBossMQ Group: v3.0 Rabbit Hole Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Ryan Harris (rpharris) Assigned to:

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-598904 ] jdk1.4 hot deploy not working on win2000

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #598904, was opened at 2002-08-22 17:45 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=598904group_id=22866 Category: JBossServer Group: None Status: Closed Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Eric J Kaplan (ericjkaplan) Assigned to:

[JBoss-dev] Main is not building

2003-01-16 Thread Scott M Stark
The server module in jboss-head is not currently building: [javac] C:\usr\Main\jboss-head\server\output\gen\classes\org\jboss\invocation\trunk\client\ConnectionManagerMBean.java:9: cannot resolve symbol [javac] symbol : class ServiceMBean [javac] location: interface

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-621973 ] Missing dtd for jboss-app.xml

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #621973, was opened at 2002-10-11 17:27 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=621973group_id=22866 Category: None Group: None Status: Closed Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Submitted By: L.G. (lgurevich1) Assigned to: Scott M Stark

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-668979 ] HTTP Sessions dont work in JBOSS 3.0.4-Tomcat 4.1.12 and XP

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #668979, was opened at 2003-01-16 10:17 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=668979group_id=22866 Category: CatalinaBundle Group: v3.0 Rabbit Hole Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Gofio Code (jgofio) Assigned to:

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-668786 ] LinkageError: loader constraints violated

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #668786, was opened at 2003-01-15 15:07 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=668786group_id=22866 Category: JBossMX Group: v3.0 Rabbit Hole Status: Closed Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Steve Hayward (shayward) Assigned

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-668988 ] MSSQL Delete - driver issue?

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #668988, was opened at 2003-01-16 10:49 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=668988group_id=22866 Category: JBossCMP Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Bruce Barrow (bruce_b) Assigned to:

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-648344 ] open-cursors limit reached

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #648344, was opened at 2002-12-04 11:52 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=648344group_id=22866 Category: None Group: None Status: Closed Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Bruce Barrow (bruce_b) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous

Re: [JBoss-dev] Main is not building

2003-01-16 Thread Chris Kimpton
Hi, I can't even get the code - I get connection refused: cvs [update aborted]: connect to cvs.sourceforge.net(66.35.250.207):2401 failed: Connection refused Is anyone else seeing this? Chris --- Scott M Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The server module in jboss-head is not currently

Re: [JBoss-dev] Main is not building

2003-01-16 Thread Adrian Brock
Head should compile now. Looks like xdoclet changed? Regards, Adrian From: Scott M Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JBoss-dev] Main is not building Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 01:47:09 -0800 The server module in jboss-head is not currently

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-669043 ] JBoss 3.0.5 throws exceptions on startup with IBM JDK 1.4.0

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #669043, was opened at 2003-01-16 14:28 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=669043group_id=22866 Category: JBossServer Group: v3.0 Rabbit Hole Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Stefan Kuehnel (skuehnel) Assigned

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-569305 ] Server IP detection causes problems

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #569305, was opened at 2002-06-15 07:35 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=569305group_id=22866 Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Samuel Terrell (j3110) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-669043 ] JBoss 3.0.5 throws exceptions on startup with IBM JDK 1.4.0

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #669043, was opened at 2003-01-16 14:28 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=669043group_id=22866 Category: JBossServer Group: v3.0 Rabbit Hole Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Stefan Kuehnel (skuehnel) Assigned

RE: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Bill Burke
I don't think there's any way to clear the thread locals. All those variables are package protected and there seems to be no way to clear all threadlocals -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott M Stark Sent: Thursday, January 16,

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread Hiram Chirino
The original point was that JMS allows you transact the message put. If the message put is part of the global unit of work and it has not committed, then no receiver can pick up the message (the put does not actually occur till we commit). This really has VERY little to do with the fact the jms

Re: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread David Jencks
I think you are confusing two things, marc. 1. multiple threads in one tx. This is doable technically and may produce determinate results if all threads access only different resource managers. If any access the same resource manager, you will easily get indeterminate results (e.g. one

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread Sacha Labourey
1. multiple threads in one tx. This is doable technically and may produce determinate results if all threads access only different resource managers. If any access the same resource manager, you will easily get indeterminate results (e.g. one thread adds 2, the other thread mulitplies by

Re: [JBoss-dev] JSR-77 refactoring has begun

2003-01-16 Thread Scott McLaughlin
Scott, When the original code was written we did not use JMX notifications because we were concerned that the number of notifications would be very high and might cause the server to bottle neck because of the notification volume. Is your idea to also populate the statistics using

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread marc fleury
I think you're talking about giving people something more like asynchronous method invocations (one-way) than traditional MOM style messages, right? I am talking about propagation of TX with async calls, yes. An asynch. invocation on the other hand, ought to take the transaction with

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread marc fleury
The original point was that JMS allows you transact the message put. If the message put is part of the global unit of work and it has not committed, then no receiver can pick up the message (the put does not actually occur till we commit). This really has VERY little to do with the

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread marc fleury
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sacha Labourey Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change 1. multiple threads in one tx. This is doable

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread marc fleury
1. multiple threads in one tx. This is doable technically and may produce determinate results if all threads access only different resource managers. If any access the same resource manager, you will easily get indeterminate results (e.g. one thread adds 2, the other thread mulitplies

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread Sacha Labourey
But to do this you need a way to create a thread in a transaction-friendly way i.e. if you simply create a new thread (t = new Thread), then new correct transactional context is associated with this newly started thread. Correct? inheritableThreadLocal (or something like that) Yes, but

Re: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread David Jencks
I think you are confusing two things, marc. 1. multiple threads in one tx. This is doable technically and may produce determinate results if all threads access only different resource managers. If any access the same resource manager, you will easily get indeterminate results (e.g. one

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread marc fleury
Dustin, I am sorry I went on a tangent, it is just a pet peeve of mine for the longest time (and I still have to hear about OLE, who likes these discussions ;). In the 3.x series of JBoss, there isn't a way to have one SSB with a transaction attribute of Required call another SSB with a

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-669112 ] Server.log not created when using xerces

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #669112, was opened at 2003-01-16 15:49 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=669112group_id=22866 Category: JBossServer Group: v3.2 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Andrew Everitt (andieveritt) Assigned to:

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread marc fleury
guess it simply comes down to the fact that since the beginning we hear in specs: threads are bad, bouh! , thus it has never been standardized and instead we have to use 3000 lines of JMS + MDB to simulate async behaviour in containers. well what you want is a language level construct a la

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-669139 ] BLOB: Unknown Types value

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #669139, was opened at 2003-01-16 17:16 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=669139group_id=22866 Category: JBossCMP Group: v3.0 Rabbit Hole Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Florian Steinsiepe (floechen) Assigned

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-669140 ] jbossmq-service.xml takes long time to deploy

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #669140, was opened at 2003-01-16 11:18 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=669140group_id=22866 Category: JBossMQ Group: CVS HEAD Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Michael Newcomb (mnewcomb) Assigned to:

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-669139 ] BLOB: Unknown Types value

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #669139, was opened at 2003-01-16 17:16 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=669139group_id=22866 Category: JBossCMP Group: v3.0 Rabbit Hole Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Florian Steinsiepe (floechen) Assigned

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-669112 ] Server.log not created when using xerces

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #669112, was opened at 2003-01-16 15:49 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=669112group_id=22866 Category: JBossServer Group: v3.2 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Andrew Everitt (andieveritt) Assigned to:

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-669145 ] Error autocreating EJB-Tables

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #669145, was opened at 2003-01-16 17:27 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=669145group_id=22866 Category: JBossCMP Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Thomas Nagel (ktnagel) Assigned to:

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread Bill Burke
In fact we could TOTALLY do that on the new AOP framework. If you define with an xdoclet tag that a given method is @jboss:one-way then we put an interceptor that takes fresh thread and returns immediately. Me likes. Please check out the metadata stuff I've been doing for the AOP

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-668988 ] MSSQL Delete - driver issue?

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #668988, was opened at 2003-01-16 02:49 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=668988group_id=22866 Category: JBossCMP Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Bruce Barrow (bruce_b) Assigned to:

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-666752 ] EOFException on server-startup

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #666752, was opened at 2003-01-12 14:00 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=666752group_id=22866 Category: JBossServer Group: CVS HEAD Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Frank Langelage (lafr) Assigned to:

Re: [JBoss-dev] Main is not building

2003-01-16 Thread Matt Cleveland
Now I really need a jboss-3.2.0RC1-src bundle that compiles. Matt Cleveland - Original Message - From: Hunter Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JBoss Dev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Main is not building Sourceforge has killed anon

RE: [JBoss-dev] Main is not building

2003-01-16 Thread marc fleury
how do you know they have KILLED it wtf!! marcf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hunter Hillegas Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:19 AM To: JBoss Dev Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Main is not building Sourceforge has

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-669161 ] Jetty for 3.0.5 release giving null Session IDs

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #669161, was opened at 2003-01-16 11:56 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=669161group_id=22866 Category: JBossWeb Group: v3.0 Rabbit Hole Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: J. Rhett Aultman (cuplan) Assigned to:

Re: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread danch
Sacha Labourey wrote: + I guess this is the whole point: current JMS transactional behaviour is fine as long as what you want is *really* to decouple the producer from the consumer, but when what you want is just transactional multithreaded, then it is no more (and by far) a good solution because

Re: [JBoss-dev] FW: Open Source Excellence Awards

2003-01-16 Thread Tom Coleman
I think we can and should win the open source project as we have a more mature code base and more downloads than any of the other projects. I agree, but possibly for a different reason. No one else has anything close to a 'Marc' driving their project. ;-)

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread Barlow, Dustin
My answers/comments are inline: I am sorry I went on a tangent, it is just a pet peeve of mine for the longest time (and I still have to hear about OLE, who likes these discussions ;). No need to apologize at all. I think it's an interesting topic as well. Plus you're the boss so :) In

Re: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread danch
If I understand you right, you're asking to propagate transactions via JMS messages because they're not propagated via non-local EJB calls. I think that begs the question, doesn't it? Meanwhile the conversation has gone on to (basically) asynchronous EJB (really AOP) calls. Barlow, Dustin

Re: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread danch
marc fleury wrote: The original point was that JMS allows you transact the message put. If the message put is part of the global unit of work and it has not committed, then no receiver can pick up the message (the put does not actually occur till we commit). This really has VERY little to

[JBoss-dev] Branch_3_0 doesn't build on OSX

2003-01-16 Thread Dain Sundstrom
Maybe I have something messed up, but Branch_3_0 doesn't build anymore on my apple. I have an old version of Branch_3_0 that builds fine. Does anyone have an apple, and can build? What did you setup? Here is what I get. bash-2.05a$ which java /usr/bin/java bash-2.05a$ ls -l /usr/bin/java

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-669161 ] Jetty for 3.0.5 release giving null Session IDs

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #669161, was opened at 2003-01-16 16:56 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=669161group_id=22866 Category: JBossWeb Group: v3.0 Rabbit Hole Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: J. Rhett Aultman (cuplan) Assigned to:

Re: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread danch
Barlow, Dustin wrote: That is what I contest. Why ? So what if it is persistent/async? theoretically speaking what is the limitation here? because if you care about the transaction, JMS is the wrong tool. There's no theoretical limitation, but if what you want to to execute an asynchrounous

Re: [JBoss-dev] Main is not building

2003-01-16 Thread Scott M Stark
The status message says: (2003-01-14 14:04:19) As of 2003-01-14, pserver-based CVS repository access and ViewCVS (web-based) CVS repository access have been taken offline as to stabilize CVS server performance for developers. These services will be re-enabled as soon as the underlying

RE: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Bill Burke
Sure there should. For people that want to do thread pooling! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott M Stark Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

Re: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread danch
Dustin, Please don't take offense here, but you seem to be heading in a couple of directions where, based on my experience, I think you'll hit some problems. Apologies in advance if I've misunderstood. Barlow, Dustin wrote: My answers/comments are inline: I am sorry I went on a tangent, it

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread marc fleury
I guess this is the whole point: current JMS transactional behaviour is fine as long as what you want is *really* to decouple the producer from the consumer, but when what you want is just transactional multithreaded, then it is no more (and by far) a good solution because you

Re: [JBoss-dev] JSR-77 refactoring has begun

2003-01-16 Thread Scott M Stark
For these service creation events I'm addressing now to decouple JSR-77 from the core I don't see the event volume as an issue. If it is, then we need to use asynchronous events. For all of the stats I have read about so far, the corresponding component should be an mbean with this information

RE: [JBoss-dev] FW: Open Source Excellence Awards

2003-01-16 Thread marc fleury
No one else has anything close to a 'Marc' driving their project. ;-) I am susceptible to compliments : thanks a bunch, makes me feel good as usually people bitch more than give accolades. I appreciate it :) marcf --- This SF.NET

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-669161 ] Jetty for 3.0.5 release giving null Session IDs

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #669161, was opened at 2003-01-16 11:56 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=669161group_id=22866 Category: JBossWeb Group: v3.0 Rabbit Hole Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: J. Rhett Aultman (cuplan) Assigned to:

RE: [JBoss-dev] JSR-77 refactoring has begun

2003-01-16 Thread Sacha Labourey
I agree that if you take the spec and literally create a MBean for every management object there will be an absurd number of MBeans. So what does this super MBean look like? Is that really a problem? What if the overhead of an MBean? If that is really a problem because the routing logic of

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-669161 ] Jetty for 3.0.5 release giving null Session IDs

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #669161, was opened at 2003-01-16 11:56 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=669161group_id=22866 Category: JBossWeb Group: v3.0 Rabbit Hole Status: Closed Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: J. Rhett Aultman (cuplan) Assigned

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread marc fleury
transaction attribute of NEVER on both ejbs). I think this is exactly what Scott was addressing in his original post, that at a bare minium, we should have the ability to say, we don't want and can't have the transaction context pushed to the node, so don't even try. Of course this does

Re: [JBoss-dev] Branch_3_0 doesn't build on OSX

2003-01-16 Thread Peter Fagerlund
torsdagen den 16 januari 2003 kl 18.28 skrev Dain Sundstrom: bash-2.05a$ ./build.sh Error: JAVA_HOME is not defined correctly. We cannot execute java setenv JAVA_HOME /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.3.1/Home setenv = export

RE: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Jeff Haynie
Why don't we just create on enter and then clear thread locals in the finally of the run in the threadpool? If there's any thread local variables in the executing thread, they could then be set in the executing thread pool thread, and then the thread pool thread could remove them upon exiting?

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread marc fleury
No the crux of the problem is that JMS was designed to address the needs of providers of application integration infrastructure that's used for loosely coupled interfaces between systems. If you're loosely coupled enough to use JMS, you don't want the transaction propagated. it is a

Re: [JBoss-dev] JSR-77 refactoring has begun

2003-01-16 Thread Scott M Stark
It is a problem to me as it just compounds startup and shutdown times. If I read the spec correctly, every jndi ref, url ref, resource ref, etc has a mangement object. There is no need to create an explicit MBean for every logic object. I think there should MBeans for the coarse level objects

RE: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Bill Burke
try it. You can't do it. the threadlocal stuff within a thread is package protected. You'd have to create your own kind of ThreadLocal class. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Haynie Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 1:06 PM To:

Re: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Scott M Stark
Bull, the threads which have access to a thread local may have nothing to do with the thread pool. You don't know why a thread local was introduced just because you manage threads. This is a bit like saying you should be able to clear all variables declared in the sceop of package names

RE: [JBoss-dev] JSR-77 refactoring has begun

2003-01-16 Thread Sacha Labourey
Are you sure? I don't read the spec like that... As I understand it, you don't need an MBean for every jndi ref, url ref, etc. but for every JNDI service, etc. If you take a look at the EJBModule or EntitBean, I don't see such a thing. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Jeff Haynie
What happens in the case the executing thread doesn't know he's executing on a thread pool thread - such as that another caller is calling a method on an object via a thread pool? In this case, you thread local variables wouldn't work -- in which case, thread locals are pointless, no?

RE: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread marc fleury
Bull, lol marcf --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Thawte.com Understand how to protect your customers personal information by implementing SSL on your Apache Web Server. Click here to get our FREE Thawte Apache Guide:

Re: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread David Jencks
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 09:27 AM, Sacha Labourey wrote: 1. multiple threads in one tx. This is doable technically and may produce determinate results if all threads access only different resource managers. If any access the same resource manager, you will easily get indeterminate

Re: [JBoss-dev] JSR-77 refactoring has begun

2003-01-16 Thread Scott M Stark
No, I'm not sure. Scott Stark Chief Technology Officer JBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From: Sacha Labourey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] JSR-77

RE: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Bill Burke
This is exactly my point. The point of ThreadLocals is that the data only lives for the life of the thread. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Haynie Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:

Re: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Scott M Stark
I have no idea what you are talking about here. Thread locals always work. The value of the variable is scoped by the thread. What Bill is wanting is the ability to flush the variables associated with a thread in the scope of a thread pool. This is a different semantic that can be implemented as a

Re: [JBoss-dev] 3.2RC1 src - doesn't build

2003-01-16 Thread Scott M Stark
The src bundle is all screwed up. I'll create a new one. Scott Stark Chief Technology Officer JBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From: Matt Cleveland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 6:47 AM

Re: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread David Jencks
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 09:10 AM, Barlow, Dustin wrote: Let me simplify the example to demonstrate my real point. (and hopefully this is a better example) In the 3.x series of JBoss, there isn't a way to have one SSB with a transaction attribute of Required call another SSB with a

RE: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread marc fleury
the only reason is that no one has previously written a distributed tx it is not the ONLY reason, but yes it is the REAL one. marcf manager. I wrote the basic stuff we need in jboss 4, it should even work with the trunk invoker. david jencks If you have persistent JMS queues,

RE: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Bill Burke
Each thread holds an implicit reference to its copy of a thread-local variable as long as the thread is alive and the ThreadLocal instance is accessible; after a thread goes away, all of its copies of thread-local instances are subject to garbage collection (unless other references to these copies

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-629145 ] ejb-link bug

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #629145, was opened at 2002-10-26 17:14 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=629145group_id=22866 Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: Accepted Priority: 5 Submitted By: Stefan Wachter (stefanwachter) Assigned to:

Re: [JBoss-dev] 3.2RC1 src - doesn't build

2003-01-16 Thread Matt Cleveland
Thank you very much :) Matt Cleveland - Original Message - From: Scott M Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 3.2RC1 src - doesn't build The src bundle is all screwed up. I'll create a new one.

Re: [JBoss-dev] Branch_3_0 doesn't build on OSX

2003-01-16 Thread Dain Sundstrom
That works perfectly. I didn't see the Home directory in the tree. Thanks, -dain On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 11:54 AM, Hunter Hillegas wrote: JAVA_HOME should be set to: /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.1/Home or

[JBoss-dev] type-mapping for Pointbase (standardjbosscmp-jdbc.xml)

2003-01-16 Thread Jeffrey Wescott
In our testing it seems that the mapping below on Pointbase does not work: mapping java-typejava.lang.Boolean/java-type jdbc-typeBINARY/jdbc-type sql-typeBOOLEAN/sql-type /mapping However, this one does: mapping

Re: [JBoss-dev] JSR-77 refactoring has begun

2003-01-16 Thread Scott M Stark
I browsed back through the latest spec and I am still not sure what some of these objects represent, but that is not important for my initial focus. What I want is to remove the dependency on JSR-77 components from the core layer. Right now even the minimal configuration has to include the

RE: [JBoss-dev] JSR-77 refactoring has begun

2003-01-16 Thread Sacha Labourey
agree. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]De la part de Scott M Stark Envoyé : jeudi, 16 janvier 2003 21:38 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [JBoss-dev] JSR-77 refactoring has begun I browsed back through the latest spec and I am still not sure

RE: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Bill Burke
I think thread pools are different. SUN jdks do not have a thread pool. Supposedly thread creation is expensive on linux. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of marc fleury Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread danch
The Object pooling question was definately settled on the side of it's not worth it, but things like threads and sockets _are_ different in that the underlying OS has its own limits and imposes them on us. Starting a new thread for each operation and waiting for garbage collection will result

RE: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Sacha Labourey
The Object pooling question was definately settled on the side of it's not worth it, but things like threads and sockets _are_ different in that the underlying OS has its own limits and imposes them on us. maybe for sockets, but not for threads: a JVM could have (and JRockit does) an

Re: [JBoss-dev] JSR-77 refactoring has begun

2003-01-16 Thread Scott M Stark
Also, any discussion off of this list should be in Management on JBoss forum. I posted the last message I sent here there in the Let's Begin topic. Scott StarkChief Technology OfficerJBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From:

Re: [JBoss-dev] Transaction propagation change

2003-01-16 Thread Anatoly Akkerman
That is easy. SPEED. Distributed transaction are pricey and difficult. By choice we did fastTM as an InVM implementation. Typical case of 90/10. Most applications actually use only invm stuff and so having an implemetnation that serializes stuff back and forth isn't worth it. Right now FastTM

Re: [JBoss-dev] JSR-77 refactoring has begun

2003-01-16 Thread Scott M Stark
A general problem I'm seeing in this code is going through the MBeanServer to create these management object MBeans instead of just creating the instance and then registering it. It takes about 2-3 times as many lines of code to do this and is just unreadable. Is there a reason for this? For

RE: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Rhett Aultman
Title: RE: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken According to what I've read from various sources (http://www.kerneltrap.org, assorted Ingo Molnar interviews, etc), the cost of thread creation on Linux is comparable to that of process creation. I am not a big Linux C developer at the

Re: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread danch
I think his point was that all of the threads in the pool being used will become polluted with whatever crap this framework put into its thread local. At least that's what annoys me when frameworks use threadlocal stuff (IIRC, ObjectStore did this to me at one point) -danch Scott M Stark

[JBoss-dev] Automated JBoss(Branch_3_0) Testsuite Results: 16-January-2003

2003-01-16 Thread scott . stark
JBoss daily test results SUMMARY Number of tests run: 1010 Successful tests: 1007 Errors:2 Failures: 1 [time of test: 2003-01-16.12-37 GMT] [java.version:

RE: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Sacha Labourey
The Object pooling question was definately settled on the side of it's not worth it, but things like threads and sockets _are_ different in that the underlying OS has its own limits and imposes them on us. maybe for sockets, but not for threads: a JVM could have (and JRockit does) an

Re: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread danch
It's not especially computation intensive, but it is resource intensive: it consumes a process table entry. Each user is allowed only a certain number of process table entries, and the overall system has an upper limit. Also, more threads will load the OS scheduler more. If they're idle it

Re: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread danch
danch wrote: Sacha Labourey wrote: The Object pooling question was definately settled on the side of it's not worth it, but things like threads and sockets _are_ different in that the underlying OS has its own limits and imposes them on us. maybe for sockets, but not for threads: a JVM

[JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-669140 ] jbossmq-service.xml takes long time to deploy

2003-01-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #669140, was opened at 2003-01-16 16:18 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=669140group_id=22866 Category: JBossMQ Group: CVS HEAD Status: Closed Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Michael Newcomb (mnewcomb) Assigned to:

Re: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread danch
Sacha Labourey wrote: The Object pooling question was definately settled on the side of it's not worth it, but things like threads and sockets _are_ different in that the underlying OS has its own limits and imposes them on us. maybe for sockets, but not for threads: a JVM could have (and

Re: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread danch
Sorry I'm getting argumentative here - I've been hammering code and my social graces shut down. danch wrote: Sacha Labourey wrote: The Object pooling question was definately settled on the side of it's not worth it, but things like threads and sockets _are_ different in that the underlying OS

RE: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Sacha Labourey
;) Which is why I was staying quite, waiting for the storm to calm down ;) -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]De la part de danch Envoye : jeudi, 16 janvier 2003 23:29 A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

Re: [JBoss-dev] ThreadPooling in JMX? Its broken

2003-01-16 Thread Scott M Stark
The clear point for me is that thread locals must be set and cleared in the context they are used. If you had a mechanism that allowed you to clear all of the thread locals in a given thread, how does this change the fact that the next thread still has to establish the call context? You can't

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