Re: [kicad-users] Module Library madness

2010-05-12 Thread Robert
metric (remind me to once again curse the creeps that stopped metrication back in the '60s). Can I join you? The current lib lists these as SM0603 in imperial.. I'm thinking of creating a metric named lib with 0603M? Curiously I was thinking about this the other day, and came to the

Re: [kicad-users] Module Library madness

2010-05-12 Thread Andy Eskelson
Module management is fairly easy, but it does not seem to be very well used. This is probably due to the way that the modules are installed, where everything is pretty much set up ready to go. If you have a hunt around in kicad/share/modules you will find some .brd files. these are the

[kicad-users] Re: Module Library madness

2010-05-12 Thread Lorenzo
With the imperial / metric versions. the only thing I can think of is that it may be that because kicad (at least the 2009 versions) use imperial as it's base measurement system that someone created the imperial versions to avoid grid mismatches. That's not the reason, with its 1/10mil

[kicad-users] Re: 3 PCBs, 1 design

2010-05-12 Thread Lorenzo
Is there any way to force KiCAD to make a PCB of a single schematic sheet, even when buried within a larger hierarchical design? I had a similar issue with a sandwitch-board (i.e. two pcb mounted with risers). The trick is to use a single pcb file with all your boards drawn into it and

[kicad-users] Re: Placing lines by coordinates

2010-05-12 Thread Lorenzo
In pcbnew, you can edit a line segment (for example, part of the board outline) and type in or change the endpoints. Is there any way to do this in the module editor? That would make it easier to draw silkscreen outlines or keepout areas. Sorry, IIRC this isn't possible ATM. You should

[kicad-users] Re: Auto pin pitch

2010-05-12 Thread Lorenzo
I'm editing a module and I want to change the space between each pin automatically. How is it done? There is no way to do that... Many people use scripts to generate automatically .emp files with the desired pitch and size, but manually you have to move them one at a time (a custom grid

[kicad-users] Re: Trouble when creating module library using auxiliary board approach

2010-05-12 Thread Lorenzo
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, andy_7945 hvbry...@... wrote: This is all okay, as I can use a revised approach by creating the library first, then inserting each module into the auxiliary board one by one after the fact. But this is not how the documentation says to do it. This

[kicad-users] Re: Gerber files

2010-05-12 Thread Lorenzo
I'm having trouble converting the gerber code ( copper and component layers ) where the gcam software just dies in the KiCad code. Similar sized card with Eagle goes ok but there is a difference with the gerber code from KiCad. I suppose you're doing milling isolation and not photo

Re: [kicad-users] Re: Module Library madness

2010-05-12 Thread Karl Schmidt
Lorenzo wrote: The IPC standard naming is IMHO unwieldy, too complex to use in the usual cases! (and, anyway, remember that there are around a dozen or so of SOT-23 variants, too!) You can tell IPC standards was written by engineers that haven't done real life design work -- some of the

Re: [kicad-users] Re: Module Library madness

2010-05-12 Thread Karl Schmidt
Lorenzo wrote: You can tell IPC standards was written by engineers that haven't done real life design work -- some of the text sounds like it was written by lawyers yuck. You actually have found the specs or have you paid for them? I'd love to see the rationale for some of their formulas

[kicad-users] Re: Module Library madness

2010-05-12 Thread Lorenzo
pcb-fpw is open source, so it would be possible to modify add it to the kicad suite .. seems to be written in java-bloat.. No, it's buggy plain C with GTK :P It actually contains a lot of hardwired size, too:P The separate names for a cap and resistor 0805 package is silly Actually it

R: [kicad-users] Re: Module Library madness

2010-05-12 Thread Carlo Garberi
For Cases, pads, etc., you can also refere to: New Surface Mount Design and Land Pattern Standard The official text for device farms. ciao Carlo, I2GOQ --- Mer 12/5/10, Lorenzo

Re: [kicad-users] Re: Module Library madness

2010-05-12 Thread Karl Schmidt
Lorenzo wrote: The separate names for a cap and resistor 0805 package is silly Actually it isn't... a ceramic cap has round plating, a chip resistor is an attached foil... I presume the mechanical properties are different (indeed the pads are different, too) ?? not the parts I looked